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Margie
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Re: Katrina's Forecast Track Shifts West, Northern Gulf Needs to Watch [Re: wxman007]
      #50420 - Fri Aug 26 2005 10:23 PM

Well that's really good news (the HPC points)...south of Lake Charles LA is just about the only place on the N Gulf Coast where the coastline is sparsely populated.

However the NHC lat/lon is identical to the path of (sorry, Frank P) Camille - Waveland, MS.

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Edited by Margie (Fri Aug 26 2005 10:29 PM)


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Re: Katrina's Forecast Track Shifts West, Northern Gulf Needs to Watch [Re: Steve]
      #50421 - Fri Aug 26 2005 10:23 PM

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>>72 hr on coast 30.5 89.5 (Biloxi ish) 115g140

Jason, that's a hair North east of me. My house is about 29.9/89.9. It would either imply a NW heading at landfall or a hit somewhere in the Slidell, Pearl River, Waveland, Henderson Point, Bay St. Louis areas, wouldn't it? (just going off of memory since I didn't check any of their actual cordinates).

Steve




At first blush, it looks like Diamondhead to me...I'll need to wait on actually plottable on my stuff when the adv comes out...

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Re: Katrina's Forecast Track Shifts West, Northern Gulf Needs to Watch [Re: Frank P]
      #50422 - Fri Aug 26 2005 10:24 PM

I found this site a few months ago. Thanks to all for the great information.

I am in Fort Collins, Co. so my only direct connection to hurricanes is that Dr. Grey works at nearby Colorado State Univeristy. I know his group makes a forcast for the number of storms each season.


Anyway, here is my question.
How likely will Katrina disrupt oil production in the GOM? I know the forcast is changing and no knows were the storm will go.

It seems this is one storm that could affect everyone in the United States not just the unlucky ones along the coast.

Doug Baker


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Re: Katrina's Forecast Track Shifts West, Northern Gulf Needs to Watch [Re: Margie]
      #50423 - Fri Aug 26 2005 10:24 PM

I am sure the people south of Lake Charles LA do not think so..

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Re: Katrina's Forecast Track Shifts West, Northern Gulf Needs to Watch [Re: Big Red Machine]
      #50424 - Fri Aug 26 2005 10:24 PM

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Ralph, the predictions were not for it to be a strong 4/5 already. Katrina has already overshot the intensity estimates from last night. Give it time... the intensity is more likely than not going to go way up.




Im taking about the predictions of the people on here not the ones who know what they are talking about.Yesterday people were talking strong 4 easy and a cat 3 when it got to the gulf.

So i was referring to the people on here who also said it was going to go upthe west coast but all those guys are not around now.


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Frank P
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Re: Katrina's Forecast Track Shifts West, Northern Gulf Needs to Watch [Re: Steve]
      #50425 - Fri Aug 26 2005 10:26 PM

Im at 89... 89.5 is the MS/LA line.... I could live with that even with a Cat 4..

Edited by Frank P (Fri Aug 26 2005 10:27 PM)


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Re: Katrina's Forecast Track Shifts West, Northern Gulf Needs to Watch [Re: Lysis]
      #50426 - Fri Aug 26 2005 10:27 PM

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Im glad we have not seen any sign of this coming into a strong cat 4 storm or a 5 like many thought it would be already.

Many were thinking as soon as it hit the GOM it would be a 3 but thank you for the dry air.



What are you talking about? This is probably going to be a very dangerous situation in the following days. The official forecast has a solid category four making landfall along the gulf coast. The cyclone remained consolidated throughout it’s duration over the peninsula, and there is really no reason for it not to deepen. Which it is. As was pointed out earlier... it is infact overshooting most of the sound early intensity estimates.





are you reading what the NHC is putting out as at landfall? 115 that is not a strong 4 nor a solid 4 or even a 4 that is what is coming out at 11pm


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Re: Katrina's Forecast Track Shifts West, Northern Gulf Needs to Watch [Re: DougBaker]
      #50427 - Fri Aug 26 2005 10:28 PM

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I found this site a few months ago. Thanks to all for the great information.

I am in Fort Collins, Co. so my only direct connection to hurricanes is that Dr. Grey works at nearby Colorado State Univeristy. I know his group makes a forcast for the number of storms each season.


Anyway, here is my question.
How likely will Katrina disrupt oil production in the GOM? I know the forcast is changing and no knows were the storm will go.

It seems this is one storm that could affect everyone in the United States not just the unlucky ones along the coast.

Doug Baker




Per CNN & Fox News the rigs began evacuating this afternoon. But that was before the shift west. They could clear out all of the LA coastal rigs tommorrow if the forecast path remains consistent tommorrow.


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Re: Katrina's Forecast Track Shifts West, Northern Gulf Needs to Watch [Re: ralphfl]
      #50428 - Fri Aug 26 2005 10:29 PM

well ralph if i am not mistaken that is 115 kts which equates to around 130-133 mph which if i am not mistaken IS 4

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Re: Katrina's Forecast Track Shifts West, Northern Gulf Needs to Watch [Re: JG]
      #50429 - Fri Aug 26 2005 10:30 PM

My girlfriend's husband is a helicopter pilot for the rigs. They are definitely moving out.

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Frank P
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Re: Katrina's Forecast Track Shifts West, Northern Gulf Needs to Watch [Re: wxman007]
      #50430 - Fri Aug 26 2005 10:30 PM

Diamondhead is north of BSL..... 89.36

sorry typo

Edited by Frank P (Fri Aug 26 2005 10:32 PM)


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Re: Katrina's Forecast Track Shifts West, Northern Gulf Needs to Watch [Re: ralphfl]
      #50431 - Fri Aug 26 2005 10:30 PM

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are you reading what the NHC is putting out as at landfall? 115 that is not a strong 4 nor a solid 4 or even a 4 that is what is coming out at 11pm




115 KNOTS is Cat 4...that is the NHC forecast....

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Re: Katrina's Forecast Track Shifts West, Northern Gulf Needs to Watch [Re: Frank P]
      #50432 - Fri Aug 26 2005 10:30 PM

Doug,

I don't know if you can trade futures on a Saturday or not (maybe overseas), and I'm not even sure how all that works. But with current thinking, the daily record run up in oil prices ain't stopped yet. But if investors were giddy today, they're going to be going insane tomorrow unless a shift in the models and NHC edges back toward Alabama. The refineries and production could be hampered beyond belief with an LA or TX (first time I've said that word) offshore threat. I don't know where it's going, but I can promise you that investors will be even more skiddish tomorrow.

PS Send me a 5% cut.

Steve

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Re: Katrina's Forecast Track Shifts West, Northern Gulf Needs to Watch [Re: ralphfl]
      #50433 - Fri Aug 26 2005 10:31 PM

are you reading what the NHC is putting out as at landfall? 115 that is not a strong 4 nor a solid 4 or even a 4 that is what is coming out at 11pm





That was 115 knots, Not MPH. 114-135 knots is Cat 4.

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Re: Katrina's Forecast Track Shifts West, Northern Gulf Needs to Watch [Re: Steve]
      #50434 - Fri Aug 26 2005 10:32 PM

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Doug,

I don't know if you can trade futures on a Saturday or not (maybe overseas), and I'm not even sure how all that works. But with current thinking, the daily record run up in oil prices ain't stopped yet. But if investors were giddy today, they're going to be going insane tomorrow unless a shift in the models and NHC edges back toward Alabama. The refineries and production could be hampered beyond belief with an LA or TX (first time I've said that word) offshore threat. I don't know where it's going, but I can promise you that investors will be even more skiddish tomorrow.

PS Send me a 5% cut.

Steve




If this forecast verifies, get ready for 3 dollar plus gas next week...

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Edited by wxman007 (Fri Aug 26 2005 10:33 PM)


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Re: Katrina's Forecast Track Shifts West, Northern Gulf Needs to Watch [Re: ralphfl]
      #50435 - Fri Aug 26 2005 10:32 PM

I am still not trusting the models. Don't think it will get that far west. Hugh's ideas are close to my thinking.

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Re: Katrina's Forecast Track Shifts West, Northern Gulf Needs to Watch [Re: wxman007]
      #50436 - Fri Aug 26 2005 10:33 PM

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are you reading what the NHC is putting out as at landfall? 115 that is not a strong 4 nor a solid 4 or even a 4 that is what is coming out at 11pm




115 KNOTS is Cat 4...that is the NHC forecast....





thats fine but on there forcast map they have a red dot right at landfall and red dot is a 3...http://www.wunderground.com/tropical/tracking/at200512.html

Im going by what they posted.But this time last night people were calling for it to be a 4 already which at least right now its not near that.


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Re: Katrina's Forecast Track Shifts West, Northern Gulf Needs to Watch [Re: wxman007]
      #50437 - Fri Aug 26 2005 10:34 PM

I'm all gassed up, sure wish I had a hybrid... this thing hits coastal LA as a 4 and 3.00 gas might be a bargain.... you'll think 2.50 would be like giving it away.... I sure hope this scenario does not come to fruition....

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Re: Katrina's Forecast Track Shifts West, Northern Gulf Needs to Watch [Re: NewWatcher]
      #50438 - Fri Aug 26 2005 10:35 PM

Just heard on TWC possible cat.3 overnight. Guess we will have to wait and see

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Re: Katrina's Forecast Track Shifts West, Northern Gulf Needs to Watch [Re: wxman007]
      #50439 - Fri Aug 26 2005 10:35 PM

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If this forecast verifies, get ready for 3 dollar plus gas next week...




No kidding. Been telling everyone I know to fill up on the cheap gas this weekend. You can imagine the funny looks I am getting when i call it cheap.

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