hurricane expert
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People i dont even think the big band of florida is out of the woods yet. This system been tricking us ever since it made landfall in south flordia.
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SirCane
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Why did they do a Hurricane watch for such a small area? You'd think it would extend all the way to like Destin, FL or something.
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Hurricane Opal (1995) 115 mph
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richisurfs
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I have to say that I sure hope Pensacola is out of the woods because they don't need yet another hit just like we don't down here. In all honesty though, as long as that thing is out in the gulf I would not let your guard down. Even though the models are in fairly close agreement nothing is written in stone and anything is still possible. I don't trust those things and I would still be keeping an eye on it if I were you. It is better to err on the side of being cautious.
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Random Chaos
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Why did they do a Hurricane watch for such a small area? You'd think it would extend all the way to like Destin, FL or something.
I suspect they did that because of evacuation difficulties with the NO area.
From the 11am discussion:
"THE NEW FORECAST TRACK AND WIND RADII REQUIRE A HURRICANE WATCH FOR PORTIONS OF SOUTHEASTERN LOUISIANA AT THIS TIME...INCLUDING METROPOLITAN NEW ORLEANS. THIS WATCH WILL LIKELY NEED TO BE EXTENDED ALONG THE COAST LATER TODAY OR TONIGHT."
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HanKFranK
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the se part of louisiana sticks out into the gulf some. the watches were issued based on hurricane force winds possibly reaching the area in 36 hrs or so... early monday as the storm gets closer. models are fairly well clustered, with the consensus track being near to just east of new orleans.... they say in the disco that watches will probably stretch further up the coast as the hurricane gets closer.
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KornR
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We live in North Florida, near to Lake City. We are still watching this storm closely. It's true that is not doing what's been predicted, and I don't know if I completely trust the models, even though all of them have it headed straight for NO. NO doesn't need anything like this. It would be decimated. I don't want it here either, but NO and Pensacola areas especially can't take a Cat4.
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Ed Dunham
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Given some of the recent trends this morning, the following is a repeated post from the previous thread:
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pcola
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Hurricane watches will be shifted east on the next full advisory..the reason for the watches in LA is due to evacuation time and that the center could reach this area in 36 hours (or at least effects)..remember most of this area juts way into the gulf, and thus would be impacted first no matter where a north GOM landfall takes place..as for Pensacola..no it is not out of the woods!!! don't think that..this track forecast is nearly identical to ..and models are starting to shift east..remember a Mobile Bay landfall is just about the worst case for Pensacola..especially surge..don't look at the line, look at the cone..play it safe
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SC Bill
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I am confused, which is not unusual. The 11:00 discussion says in part "THIS PATTERN CHANGE SHOULD
CAUSE TO TURN NORTHWARD DURING THE NEXT 72 HR ", and goes on to say later in the discussion: "THE OFFICIAL FORECAST REMAINS CLOSE TO THE MODEL CONSENSUS...CALLING FOR
LANDFALL IN SOUTHEASTERN LOUISIANA IN 48-60 HR."
Does this not seem contradictory, or at least signal a lack of confidence in the forecast track?? I mean, if the turn is going to take place sometime in the next 72 hours, how can landfall be in 48-60 hours at a point that required the turn?
NHC has been amazingly "on" this year, and this is probably just some "averaging" issue I don't understand, but I would appreciate a clue as to how these two statements can both be true.
Thanks!
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SirCane
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I think the has been as confused as we are. I would not be surprised if their track is shifted a little to the East this afternoon.
Noone should be focusing on the line. Right now, 's TS force winds extend 150 miles from the Center and Hurricane force winds extend 40 miles. If the thing hits the AL/MS line Pensacola gets a LOT of rain and some very gusty winds. If it hits Mobile Bay we are screwed. Can't focus on the line because these Hurricanes are hard to predict. Remember and both hit East of the 's line.
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Hurricane Erin (1995) 100 mph
Hurricane Opal (1995) 115 mph
Hurricane Ivan (2004) 130 mph
Hurricane Dennis (2005) 120 mph
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GuppieGrouper
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No. Until this hurricane has either gone inland to Texas or has shriveled up to a thunderstorm, you should be aware of the location of this storm and be prepared for rain, and breezes. But, do not start evacuations until the local emergency management tells you to.(I am not being funny or sarcastic) The gulf has sprung surprises on a lot of people before. Ask the people in Port Charlotte Florida.
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Hugh
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No. Until this hurricane has either gone inland to Texas or has shriveled up to a thunderstorm, you should be aware of the location of this storm and be prepared for rain, and breezes. But, do not start evacuations until the local emergency management tells you to.(I am not being funny or sarcastic) The gulf has sprung surprises on a lot of people before. Ask the people in Port Charlotte Florida.
If you feel like you're not safe, I would recommend making evacuation plans now - local EM people MAY not have time to issue evac orders. That happened with and with a storm (forget the name) that hit Biloxi fairly recently, too. I still expect the forecast track to change at least three times in the next three days.
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Jamiewx
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Here is a link to NOAA Weather Radio KHB43 out of New Orleans.
http://www.nola.com/weather/radio/?/weather/radio/content.ssf/weather
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Terra
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WV really looks like it's trying to turn. It might be an artifact of the , however.
http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/TROP/DATA/RT/float-wv-loop.html
If you look at the GOM version of this... it kind of gives a feel for the overall potential motion, which now seems more east of the forecast... Am I wishcasting, or actually seeing something?
http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/TROP/DATA/RT/gmex-wv-loop.html
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susieq
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Is some kind of shear thing happening here? In the last couple of frames it looks like there are north/south lines in the northern part of the storm. Any ideas?
http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/TROP/DATA/RT/gmex-wv-loop.html
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Hugh
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If you look at the GOM version of this... it kind of gives a feel for the overall potential motion, which now seems more east of the forecast... Am I wishcasting, or actually seeing something?
http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/TROP/DATA/RT/gmex-wv-loop.html
I've been staring at that loop til I was blue in the gills. First, it has not updated for me - I keep refreshing but the latest imaging is 14:45, which is rather old now. Second, I think you're seeing the same thing I am - a very gradual, but very distinct... turn. Potentially promising for points west of N.O. Potentially devastating for points east. Too early to tell if it is going to continue.
Updated to reply to susieq: It's dry air I think (the 15:15 image loaded for me finally).
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Eloise (1975) - Elena and several other near misses (1985) - Erin & Opal (1995) - Ivan (2004)
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Trekman
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It looked to me (a stark amateur) that the highest cloud tops had left the eye and had extended west, with some seeming to go towards the north. I dont feel so foolish having only taken down one set of window boards after .
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susieq
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MissouriHurricane2008
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Katrinas track takes it right in to the New Orleans area, that is not a good sign, with a huge lake on one side and Mississippi River on the other. Throw storm surge and 20 inches of rain on top of that we could have a disaster. Prepare Now
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Darron&Amber
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My husband has been living in SE Louisiana for 35 years, and this Hurricane got him worried.
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