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Re: Category 4 Katrina Heads for the Coast [Re: WeatherNut]
      #51235 - Sun Aug 28 2005 04:53 AM

REPEAT...CENTER LOCATED NEAR 25.4N 87.4W AT 28/0900Z
AT 28/0600Z CENTER WAS LOCATED NEAR 25.2N 86.8W

FORECAST VALID 28/1800Z 26.3N 88.4W
MAX WIND 130 KT...GUSTS 160 KT.
64 KT... 75NE 75SE 50SW 75NW.
50 KT...100NE 100SE 75SW 100NW.
34 KT...160NE 160SE 125SW 140NW.

FORECAST VALID 29/0600Z 28.0N 89.4W
MAX WIND 135 KT...GUSTS 165 KT.
64 KT... 75NE 75SE 50SW 75NW.
50 KT...100NE 100SE 75SW 100NW.
34 KT...160NE 160SE 125SW 140NW.

FORECAST VALID 29/1800Z 30.0N 89.8W
MAX WIND 125 KT...GUSTS 155 KT.
64 KT... 75NE 75SE 50SW 50NW.
50 KT...100NE 100SE 75SW 75NW.
34 KT...160NE 160SE 125SW 125NW.

FORECAST VALID 30/0600Z 32.3N 89.3W...INLAND
MAX WIND 65 KT...GUSTS 80 KT.
50 KT... 60NE 60SE 30SW 30NW.
34 KT... 90NE 90SE 60SW 60NW.


http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/text/refresh/MIATCMAT2+shtml/280840.shtml

Edited by danielw (Sun Aug 28 2005 04:55 AM)


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Re: Category 4 Katrina Heads for the Coast [Re: danielw]
      #51236 - Sun Aug 28 2005 04:54 AM

I think they kept it at a Cat 4 because they have no new recon yet.

I think when recon goes in, if they find Cat 5, there will be a special update.

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Re: Category 4 Katrina Heads for the Coast [Re: Margie]
      #51237 - Sun Aug 28 2005 04:57 AM

Anyone have a link to sea tempretures in front of Katrina?
Thanks.

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Edited by danielw (Sun Aug 28 2005 05:04 AM)


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Re: Category 4 Katrina Heads for the Coast [Re: Margie]
      #51238 - Sun Aug 28 2005 04:59 AM

I don't look for any CAT changes for a while. Until at least the 11 AM Advisory.

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Re: Category 4 Katrina Heads for the Coast [Re: WeatherNut]
      #51239 - Sun Aug 28 2005 05:07 AM

Good evening . . . morning.

I Couldn't sleep so I put together a track of Katrina through the 4 AM update. The last coordinates are almost identical to the first future forcast point based on the latest projected path. I added buoy information so that you may monitor individual stations as the system passes closer to the coastal waters. This is not looking good for the 'Big Easy'. I will update as information comes available.
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b358/targator/Katrina2.jpg

Buoy Maps

I hate to undo your first post. But that image was upsetting the table something awful. If you would resize it to 500 by 500 pixels it might work.~danielw

Edited by danielw (Sun Aug 28 2005 05:23 AM)


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Re: Category 4 Katrina Heads for the Coast [Re: Todd Caldwell]
      #51240 - Sun Aug 28 2005 05:19 AM

Sorry about that. If this is still too large I can reduce by a half.
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b358/targator/Katrina2.jpg

Edited by danielw (Sun Aug 28 2005 05:20 AM)


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Re: Category 4 Katrina Heads for the Coast [Re: Todd Caldwell]
      #51241 - Sun Aug 28 2005 05:21 AM

You can just start to see the littlest bit of clouds on NO long range radar.

http://radar.weather.gov/radar/loop/DS.p20-r/si.klix.shtml

I think you have been looking at the monitor too long. I've never seen clouds on radar....sorry. ~danielw

You're right I did say clouds. Precip.

There was a 0300Z fllght...when will that data be coming in?

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Edited by Margie (Sun Aug 28 2005 05:27 AM)


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Re: Category 4 Katrina Heads for the Coast [Re: Paulf]
      #51242 - Sun Aug 28 2005 05:37 AM

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Anyone have a link to sea tempretures in front of Katrina?
Thanks.

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They are very warm. About 90 degrees or so, a very bad sign.

I don't have a link, but I think it was in the Discussion on the NHC site or in Clark's blog.


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Re: Category 4 Katrina Heads for the Coast [Re: Todd Caldwell]
      #51244 - Sun Aug 28 2005 05:43 AM

Here is a good animated satellite view of North America that has a topographical look to it...
Real-Time U.S. Composite Satellite Animation
Godspeed to all in this monster's path.

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Re: Category 4 Katrina Heads for the Coast [Re: Daytonaman]
      #51245 - Sun Aug 28 2005 05:53 AM

I didn't have that one bookmarked; thanks.

Now you can really see the expansion of the windfield as Katrina grows in the last 4 frames (0745Z to 0915Z), much better than in the floater.

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Re: Category 4 Katrina Heads for the Coast [Re: Margie]
      #51246 - Sun Aug 28 2005 05:56 AM

just heard 150 mph

this does not look good at all

Edited by DebbiePSL (Sun Aug 28 2005 06:00 AM)


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Re: Category 4 Katrina Heads for the Coast [Re: DebbiePSL]
      #51247 - Sun Aug 28 2005 06:02 AM

"just heard 150 mph"

The recon is in. 915mb! temp diff up to 12 deg.

Daniel I know you said not until 11am, but you have to admit I almost called it; this is so very close. I thought the sat image definitely read explosive deepening and had the Cat 5 signature. Well it is a strong Cat 4, with pressure in Cat 5 range, and this along with the expanding windfield at the same time. Very impressive and if this deepening phase is not over then winds will catch up.

This pass was NW to SE. If there is another pass through the NE quad then we could see higher windspeeds.

OK NHC did just put out a special update to say Cat 4 gained strength and winds almost to 150mph. So it looks like that was the max flt wind for that recon or they would have waited.

Edit -- sat images show she is still growing. I don't know what to make of this except that there is just so much energy out there in the warm water that in addition to the intensification there is enough for the windfield to expand as well without impacting the intensification too much. Any thoughts on this?

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Edited by Margie (Sun Aug 28 2005 06:24 AM)


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Re: Category 4 Katrina Heads for the Coast [Re: Clark]
      #51248 - Sun Aug 28 2005 06:10 AM

Clark's post and what the water vapor shows is quite alarming to all of so la. That trough just doesn't look like enough to move her at this point until landfall weakens her. Waking up to a monster this morning. Models are very tight to landfall.

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Re: Category 4 Katrina Heads for the Coast [Re: jr928]
      #51249 - Sun Aug 28 2005 06:19 AM

I'll repost some of what I put up earlier.

If you are in a Hurricane Warning area, and a voluntary or mandatory Evacuation is put in place.
PLEASE LEAVE!!
This storm will probably have it's name retired.
Don't be One of the Fatalities or injuries that Katrina caused.

At this time I-20 frrom Jackson,MS to the West has very little traffic on it.
I-55 North from the Northshore Area was moving good around 3 hours ago.

Turn your refrigerator down...unplug everything and Leave as soon as you can.
You may not have another chance to Leave. Thanks.


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Re: Category 4 Katrina Heads for the Coast [Re: jaxmike]
      #51250 - Sun Aug 28 2005 06:23 AM

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Anyone have a link to sea tempretures in front of Katrina?
Thanks.




The Wave-Current -Surge Information System for Coastal Louisiana will be interesting to watch...

Y'all take care!


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Re: Category 4 Katrina Heads for the Coast [Re: Margie]
      #51251 - Sun Aug 28 2005 06:23 AM

Quote:

"just heard 150 mph"

The recon is in. 915mb! temp diff up to 12 deg.




I just saw the same... what a thing to wake up to...

No place is 'good' for a monster like this, but NO has to be one of the worst... if not THE worst place...

My heartfelt prayers to all in her path.... Remember, things can be replaced... lives cannot...


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Re: Category 4 Katrina Heads for the Coast [Re: DebbiePSL]
      #51252 - Sun Aug 28 2005 06:28 AM

Believe me, it doesn't look good. We're about 40 mi. north of New Orleans, on that "projected path" line and have been reading this forum and staying close to all the news' reports that we can. My next door neighbor works for NWS and took his sleeping bag to work yesterday.

They're talking about a 20-25 foot storm surge on Lake Pontchatrain, with another 20-25 feet waves on top of that. Then you add the horrendous winds. I well remember Camille in '69, and for some reason, have the same inclinations with this storm. We'll be reading and listening today. Keep up the good work.


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Re: Category 4 Katrina Heads for the Coast [Re: StormKrone]
      #51253 - Sun Aug 28 2005 06:31 AM

" "just heard 150 mph"

The recon is in. 915mb! temp diff up to 12 deg.

I just saw the same... what a thing to wake up to...

No place is 'good' for a monster like this, but NO has to be one of the worst... if not THE worst place...

My heartfelt prayers to all in her path.... Remember, things can be replaced... lives cannot..." "

I just woke up. HOLY ****! Looking at the satellite, 150 mph!?!? Worst case scenario becoming a reality.

Edited by danielw (Sun Aug 28 2005 06:37 AM)


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Re: Category 4 Katrina Heads for the Coast [Re: Daytonaman]
      #51254 - Sun Aug 28 2005 06:32 AM

Quote:

Here is a good animated satellite view of North America that has a topographical look to it...
Real-Time U.S. Composite Satellite Animation




yeah those radar loops from the Space Science Engineering Center at wisc.edu are kickass... here is a Katrina closeup view of the same type of map:
http://cimss.ssec.wisc.edu/tropic/real-time/visir/atlantic/visirjava2.html

What I like about it is that it automatically switches from visible satellite to water vapor after sunset, then back to visible when the sun comes up. Nice stuff... by far the highest quality satellite loops I have seen. Had those sites bookmarked since Hurricane Isabel in 2003.

BTW, as of this moment (6:35am EST), there IS NO mandatory evacuation order for New Orleans . This is coming directly from the mayor of N.O. on live TV (WWLTV) just 5 minutes ago. He said he may issue a mandatory evacuation order later today, but as of this moment there is none.


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Re: Category 4 Katrina Heads for the Coast [Re: StormKrone]
      #51255 - Sun Aug 28 2005 06:33 AM

Wow...what a horrible thing to wake up to...though clear over here in Pcola, I am not chancing this one..I'll be boarding up this morning ...tides are water levels are already above normal, and I suspect the impact from this will be well to the east ..unfortunately, that DAY may have finally come for the NO area, and I am sure alot of people in MS are having very bad memories from Camille revisit

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