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Re: Tide level - Lake Pontchartrain [Re: royener]
      #52100 - Mon Aug 29 2005 11:15 AM

Once the water goes over the top of the leeve(breech) the erotion takes place. The more dirt washed from the leeve, the more water flows into lower area. Army Corp. was filling weak spots and voids since wed. There equipment is in place now. By the time the weather breaks it will be to late to control the erotion.

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Re: Tide level - Lake Pontchartrain [Re: Disaster Master]
      #52101 - Mon Aug 29 2005 11:18 AM

Just heard from NFIP official that there are several areas on the east side of town where the leeves have now been breeched. Water is up to the roof lines in some areas. as much as 2ft of water spilling over the top of the leeves.

Please pardon my grammar today. Ive been on a coffee diet since 8pm last night.

Edited by Disaster Master (Mon Aug 29 2005 11:19 AM)


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Re: Tide level - Lake Pontchartrain [Re: Disaster Master]
      #52102 - Mon Aug 29 2005 11:20 AM

Can't believe people in N.O on TV are mad that they over hyped the storm when in fact they got lucky that it took at jog NE then back north again.

Why don't people be thankful then saying the NHC over hyped the storm.This is from Fox news.

Edited by ralphfl (Mon Aug 29 2005 11:23 AM)


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Re: Tide level - Lake Pontchartrain [Re: Disaster Master]
      #52103 - Mon Aug 29 2005 11:25 AM

Who ever thought you'd be relieved to hear that the pressure was up to 927 and that the winds were down to 125!

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Re: Tide level - Lake Pontchartrain [Re: Margie]
      #52104 - Mon Aug 29 2005 11:32 AM

CNN reports that the levess are fine, they had a guy on from the city of New Orleans and said they are holding up.

Also, seems like the big conecrn is the water, not so much wind.


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Re: Tide level - Lake Pontchartrain [Re: Margie]
      #52105 - Mon Aug 29 2005 11:33 AM

IMO hats off to the GDFL and lesser but right on the traget for landfall the NOGAPS again.The GFS did not do good on this storm and the BAMM was not far behind the GFS.

So far the GDFL and NOGAPS have been the best this season so far.If they are true to from this will spare GA coast as the models show more oif a north biase then NE later in the forcast.

Just praying now it weakens fast per NHC after landfall in about 12 Hrs.

Steady weakening will
occur as the center moves over land. However Katrina has such a
large and powerful circulation that it will probably retain
hurricane intensity for about 12 hours...

Edited by ralphfl (Mon Aug 29 2005 11:34 AM)


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Re: Tide level - Lake Pontchartrain [Re: Disaster Master]
      #52106 - Mon Aug 29 2005 11:33 AM

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Please pardon my grammar today. Ive been on a coffee diet since 8pm last night.




DM, I for one am appreciative of the information you are passing on... DO NOT worry about grammar or typos on my behalf... As long as I can decipher the important stuff, the rest is just... well... small stuff... and I don't sweat the small stuff..<g>

Thank you for your efforts...


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Re: Tide level - Lake Pontchartrain [Re: nate77]
      #52107 - Mon Aug 29 2005 11:34 AM

WOW. ive never in 16 years since my first storm HUGO ,ever heard so many conflicting reports

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Re: Tide level - Lake Pontchartrain [Re: ralphfl]
      #52108 - Mon Aug 29 2005 11:34 AM

I don't think we will even begin to know the real damage this thing has caused either locally or nationally (I heard on the radio coming to work this morning that a big part of the oil imported into the US comes into LA) for several days. When we are paying $4 a gallon for gas and the reality of the economic and human disaster in NO and MI becomes apparent.



Edited by RedingtonBeachGuy (Mon Aug 29 2005 11:45 AM)


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Re: Tide level - Lake Pontchartrain [Re: Disaster Master]
      #52109 - Mon Aug 29 2005 11:35 AM

DM when you say the equipment is in pace is it near the levees if so when the water level inside rises the equipment will not be accesible it would seem that the only way to repair them will be by barge from the outboard side, what is your take on this

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Re: Tide level - Lake Pontchartrain [Re: Margie]
      #52110 - Mon Aug 29 2005 11:36 AM

From Nola.com

Breaking news

Here's a run-down of what they reported:
- In New Orleans, water topped a levee along the Industrial Canal. The city's 911 emergency system was out of service and Charity Hospital was on emergency power and windows had been blown out on five floors. The Police Department was operating on a backup power system. Three to four feet of water was reported on St. Claude Avenue at Jackson Barracks. And a 20-foot tidal surge knocked out four pumping stations; only one was able to get back into service.

Also in New Orleans, a bridge connecting a parking garage to Memorial Hospital collapsed.

- In Jefferson Parish, there was a report of a building collapse in the 200 block of Wright Avenue in Terrytown. Parish officials could not provide details other than to say they had been notified that people were inside the building.

- In St. Charles Parish, significant flooding was reported on the east bank.

- In Arabi, up to 8 feet of water was reported, and people are climbing into their attics to escape the flooding. "We're telling people to get into the attic and take something with them to cut through the roof if necessary,'' said Col. Richard Baumy of the St. Bernard Parish Sheriff's Office. "It's the same scenario as Betsy.''

Baumy said 100-plus mph winds were preventing rescue efforts.

At Bayou Bienvenue, water levels were reported at 9 1/2 feet, almost twice normal levels.

- In St. John, massive power outages are reported.

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Re: Tide level - Lake Pontchartrain [Re: ralphfl]
      #52111 - Mon Aug 29 2005 11:36 AM

Quote:

Can't believe people in N.O on TV are mad that they over hyped the storm when in fact they got lucky that it took at jog NE then back north again.

Why don't people be thankful then saying the NHC over hyped the storm.This is from Fox news.




Ralph, im sure people after they think will be thankful for this, but I have nver been thru a storm like this and im sure my first reaction would be this..


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Re: Tide level - Lake Pontchartrain [Re: royener]
      #52112 - Mon Aug 29 2005 11:39 AM

Most of the equipment is in the form of scrapers and dozers that where building up some weak spots. Since these leeves where built there has been alot of settling of the dirt. To my knowledge there is a 80ml layer of black plastic sheeting on the water sides of leeve. The equipment is portable and im sure it was pulled from atop the leeves before the storm.

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Re: Tide level - Lake Pontchartrain [Re: Disaster Master]
      #52113 - Mon Aug 29 2005 11:43 AM

Concerning the breach from Channel 4 WWLTV.com

.. A LEVEE BREACH OCCURRED ALONG THE INDUSTRIAL CANAL AT TENNESSE STREET. 3 TO 8 FEET OF WATER IS EXPECTED DUE TO THE BREACH...LOCATIONS IN THE WARNING INCLUDE BUT ARE NOT LIMITED TO ARABI AND 9TH WARD OF NEW ORLEANS.

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Re: Tide level - Lake Pontchartrain [Re: Disaster Master]
      #52114 - Mon Aug 29 2005 11:44 AM

Anyone heard from Danny, that he is o.k.?

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Re: Gulfport Tidal Flooding [Re: nate77]
      #52115 - Mon Aug 29 2005 11:47 AM

Taken from the Weather Channel blog:

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An amazing phone call just aired on The Weather Channel a few minutes ago from Jim Cantore's producer, Simon Temperton. The two of them are at the Armed Forces Retirement Home in Gulfport, Miss. (current conditions), where they have sought refuge from rapidly rising floodwaters on the second floor along with 300-400 residents of the home.

Here's some of what Simon reported in his phone call:

"We're going through some unbelievable conditions. Water is seeping into the building. I'd say we've had at least a 20-feet [of] storm surge. It has washed away all our rental cars, and everything else [in the parking lot]...

"Now water is seeping into the home and they are evacuating everyone to the second floor. I'm standing in 5 or 6 inches of water [on the second floor]. The power is out. There are a few emergency lights. It's a very daunting prospect right now....

"It's a very dangerous situation. I've been doing this for 15 years, and [I've] been Mr. Cantore's producer for many hurricanes, and I've never seen anything like this. This is probably the scariest situation we've ever been in -- just the sudden rise of water and how fast. They said we were good here for 27, 30 feet [of storm surge] -- they've never seen anything like it. They thought we were completely safe.

"We're not even shooting [video] anymore. We're basically in self-preservation [mode] right now. We're helping people put up boards and sandbags to keep the water from coming in. We've become part of the crew.

"In the time we've been talking, the water has risen, I'd say, another 3 inches. It's up to the top of my boots. The water keeps rising."

-- Posted by Laurel, Product Manager, The Weather Channel Interactive

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Re: Tide level - Lake Pontchartrain [Re: NewWatcher]
      #52117 - Mon Aug 29 2005 11:49 AM

the NWS has just issued a tornado watch for Leon Co , FL (Tallahassee) and surrounding counties, including south GA. until 5:30pm..

Katrina has a long reach.


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Re: Gulfport Tidal Flooding [Re: Ron Basso]
      #52119 - Mon Aug 29 2005 11:51 AM

Any live radar sites avil? i cant get N.O'S and now trying Mobile with no luck.On the NWS site.link?

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Re: Gulfport Tidal Flooding [Re: ralphfl]
      #52120 - Mon Aug 29 2005 11:54 AM

I'm using:

http://radar.weather.gov/radar/loop/DS.p19r0/si.kmob.shtml

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try this [Re: ralphfl]
      #52121 - Mon Aug 29 2005 11:57 AM

try this http://radar.weather.gov/radar/loop/DS.p19r0/si.klix.shtml

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