collegemom
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Please dont forget that this whopper is traveling up the Mississippi and Ohio river valleys dumping huge amounts of rain. THAT RAIN will travel back down to NO in a day or two. Pray the river does not overflow it's banks.
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LisaMaria65
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You keep on doing everything you are doing, DM.
Nate, stop watching CNN. They have gotten about 80% of what they are reporting wrong!!! Earlier, they reported NO escaped damage and flooding....The NO I know has lots of flooding and lots of damage.
MSNBC showed video from WWLTV from streets of NO, and I must say its not as bad as expected and thats great.
Alot of trees down and some parts of roofs off, but structures are still there and seemed like canal street and burbon and downton area isnt that bad water wise.
Seemed like Tornadoes are the big concern right now. Everyone can start breathing in NO.
Everyone can't start breathing in NO. In areas of NO, there is 8-10 feet of water, people stranded on their roofs because their house is flooded and they had to get on their roof or they would drown.
These News stations have their reporters in certain areas of the city reporting ONLY on what they can see. If their area happens to be somewhat free from flooding or collapsed buildings, that is what they report. That is no indication of how the entire city is faring.
Shepard Smith reported from Bourban Street If you had plans to come to NO next week and party, come on over, the party will be on....or something to that effect. IMO, not only is that not a professional thing to say during something like this but it's not accurate.
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Terra
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Let's talk about this levy 'break' on the industrial canal.... Apparently it was also 'broken' during Betsy to spare New Orleans at the expense of the lower 9th ward and Arabi. This 'break' for Betsy was made on purpose. Anyone know if it was purposely broken again this time?
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The Force 2005
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Has any news agencies been reporting causaulties yet? I hope there are none, but know we really haven't touched the surface, as what happened in the wake of Andrew.
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Oceanographist on MSNBC
asked if the Levees will hold..
He answered that yes they can hold, but he herad a report that one did break and has caused some MINOR local flooding,
He also said that The city could hold up to a couple feet of flood water.
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Has any news agencies been reporting causaulties yet? I hope there are none, but know we really haven't touched the surface, as what happened in the wake of Andrew.
We are still early on in the game, and this is really far from over, but I can see eventually overtaking Andrew as the most expensive hurricane on record. In lieu of astonishing devastation in an extremely isolated area (ie Andrew, ), boasts of a more moderated destruction (at least from what we have seen thus far… which is liable to change), but over an extraordinarily large area. Granted… when you are talking about storm surge levels of the kind being thrown around here, you see a different kind of damage than seen in an otherwise exclusively extreme wind event. Due to the incredibly large area of destruction with this storm, look to see fatalities (especially indirect fatalities) skyrocket in the coming days. You know you have a serious problem when a “minimal” hurricane causes several billion dollars in damage over South Florida like did last week. These things are becoming way too expensive.
Of course, this is only conjecture.
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MikeC
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You can hear Jim Cantore talk about the incredible storm surge in Gulfport here..
http://www.weather.com/multimedia/index....=wxcenter_video
This one looks like it pulled something similar to , but stronger, where massive flooding occured to the east of the storm
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Unfortunately, most of these television stations do not take the time to confirm these reports before they put them on the air, so just because it's on tv doesn't make it necessarily true. It's a race to get the information out there first, and IMHO to see who can be the most sensational at times. I've seen conflicting reports about this storm on all the major networks just today. One station said the superdome leaks were just a drizzle, another said the water was "pouring" in. Brian Williams from NBC stayed in the superdome and he said the turf was saturated and everything was wet, and specifically said it was a substantial amount of water coming in. Also, as someone said earlier, the reporters are very isolated right now and can only see what's going on in their immediate area. When went through, or even , it wasn't until they flew over in choppers that you could actually grasp the enormity of what happened. On another note, I'm not sure how they measured the 22 foot storm surge, but my understanding is that Jim Cantore is on the 2nd floor of a building in Gulfport that was supposed to be safe for a 27 foot storm surge, and they are standing in water past their ankles on the second floor. Sounds a bit higher than 22 feet to me. Just my 2 cents.
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Genesis
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From the Destin Area here....
We have as much water in the yard as we had from ..... not as bad as , but this storm came into LOUSIANA!
AMAZING amounts of water here for this thing which is nothing more than a TS here. I'm headed out in a bit to get some pictures around the area, as we are not under curfew and it has calmed down enough for me to do so.
Folks, it is REAL bad west of us. We're not in great shape here, and we're 200nm+ away from the storm!
No significant property damage here other than a big mess..... but I bet south of 98 here in Destin that is NOT true.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but being on the right side (East) of the storm, is where you will probally have major damage as well as huge storm surges. so saying it pulled an is in-correct, as those areas should have know to expect the worse that can give.
They did, please read, I said it did something similar to with the surge, as a comparison, which is the last good example of where a powerful storm came across the gulf and pushed water upward into the gulf. Yes this is normal for storms of this strength hitting the Northern gulf, this is the point.
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It's going to take hours, if not days to seperate fact from fiction here, quite frankly i'd be amazed if portions of NO haven't been significantly flooded. I've got the same news sources as everyone else and it certainly sounds like portions are underwater with people on their roofs. I think the big story will be the devastation from NO east to Mobile, I would suspect "Andrew" like damage in a couple coastal towns, that we just dont know about.
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Here's a link to some amazing photos. Click on the slideshow
http://news.yahoo.com/
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Does Anyone know anything about Picayune, MS? Most of my family is in the area and I'm in New Jersey worried sick!
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From the Destin Area here....
We have as much water in the yard as we had from ..... not as bad as , but this storm came into LOUSIANA!
AMAZING amounts of water here for this thing which is nothing more than a TS here. I'm headed out in a bit to get some pictures around the area, as we are not under curfew and it has calmed down enough for me to do so.
Folks, it is REAL bad west of us. We're not in great shape here, and we're 200nm+ away from the storm!
No significant property damage here other than a big mess..... but I bet south of 98 here in Destin that is NOT true.
My mother-in-law lives on the harbor on Holiday Isle in Destin..... She had to evac. yesterday, I wonder how the place is fairing...
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I dont know any better confirmation than "eye-witness" reports. That building is 27 ft above sea level. I remember them reporting about it yesterday on when Jim was thanking them for letting them broadcast from there. 27 + 10 = 37 where I come from. Jim also did not sound like he was sensationalizing...he actually sounded exhausted. Let us not forget what these guys risk to bring us this information
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Jim and his producer where standing in water up to the top of there boots in that building. They where standing on the second floor.
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The Force 2005
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Mike,
Can we get a new thread for .
Katrina's Aftermath.
While is a hurricane It's not over yet. - Mike C.
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 Warning: this is not meant to alarm or be graphic but....I don't know why I just now thought of this but, we all know that in NO their deceased are not buried underground but above in mausoleums or something like that. Is this true of anywhere else being affected? I would think that the flooding coupled with this could create a whole different type of "catastrophe", possibly contamination issues. Has anyone heard of or have any news stations mentioned this? I would think that it may be of concern to the citizens/volunteers/workers who will ultimately be in the remnants of the storm waters helping to rescue/restore/rebuild. ?
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Amidst the concern for those in the path of -Has it been noted TD #13 looks like its going away?
VISIBLE SATELLITE IMAGES AND A FEW SURFACE OBSERVATIONS INDICATE
THAT THE DEPRESSION HAS DEGENERATED INTO A BROAD AREA OF LOW
PRESSURE. GLOBAL MODELS AND THE WERE CORRECT IN SUGGESTING
THAT THIS CYCLONE WAS NOT GOING TO DEVELOP FURTHER.
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rwstoney
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The best location info I have is 30.2N 89.6W. This is from NWS advisory 27 that is now almost 3.5 hours old. Does anyone know where to find more up to date location data?
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