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Are you Looking for information about a specfic area or have information tos hare, or have stories to tell about , please use the disaster forum.
is heading north toward the Northeast US over land, and is no longer being tracked by the hurricane center.
New Orleans is around 80% flooded, and since 91L isn't quite ready to form (although it may over the next few days) this thread will be a continuation post about general information about and it's imapacts as a storm.
Knowing what hurricanes can do to an area gives you a better idea how to pepare.
Please use the disaster forum for information about specific areas You do not have to register to post in the disaster forum.
Discussion about former TD#13 and 91L is allowed both here and in the storm forum.
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WTOK 11 / Missippii Alabama ABC Affiliate -- Jason Kelly is assisting Operations Here <a href="mms://a1558.l1207832090.c12078.g.lm.akamaistream.net/D/1558/12078/v0001/reflector:32090" target="_blank">Video stream from here</a>
Hurricane Now - Video reports from former CNN hurrican reporter Jeff Flock
Weathervine.com
Joseph Johnston's Mobile Bay Webcam
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WPMI Channel 15 from Mobile
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NOLA - Everything New Orleans
South Mississippi Sun Herald
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Rich B
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First of all let me begin by offering my sincere thoughts and prayers to everyone affected by , certainly was a monster storm - and indeed catastrophic to many areas.
Looks like we could see exTD13 reclassified tonight or wednesday. This has been showing signs of reorganisation the past few hours, with a well defined comma cloud pattern over the eastern semicircle. It is, fortunately, no threat to land, and stands a good chance of becoming Lee tomoro or Thursday.
91L also looks likely to become a classified system, probably Wednesday after visible imagery becomes avaialble. Still to early to call where this one will go, but indications are it will probably follow a somewhat similiar path to TD13 and its remnants.
Once again, keep safe!
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HanKFranK
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katrina is undoubtedly the new landmark in american natural disasters. lets hope it stands alone for many years to come. we still have no sound estimates on the dead and how high the monetary cost will be. the economic repercussions will reach us shortly in significantly higher gas prices.. and subsequent added costs to consumer goods.
i can pretty much rehash last night's review, because not much has changed. former 13 is moving nnw into the open atlantic ahead of a large weakness in the western atlantic. invest 91L is being sheared by a sharp low latitude upper trough, that should induce a more poleward movement and put it on a similar track. it has a significant amount of shear to survive for the next day or so before it reaches a more favorable environment. neither of these have tremendous development chances, but either has modest potential. numerous globals showing the next wave developing. will have to be watched based on time of year and overland signature.
big stew in the western and central atlantic. former 97L is indistinct near 25/60 along a convective cluster. an LLC from one of the complexes near bermuda is spinning vigorously south of the island, but being sheared.
late in the week and into the weekend a large pattern-pulse type feature should be induced off the east coast and perhaps in the northern gulf. globals handle on this feature suggests it may not be a tropical feature. nevertheless it may potentially develop something close-in. models show a lot of shear, but may not be handling the circulation features well. there is a typhoon going west to taiwan, so that favors a resurgent ridge near the eastern u.s. via teleconnection... the other system appears okinawa or eventually japan bound. a similar response in the atlantic would support more landfall threats, but there don't appear to be any features in place to make the pattern connection.
rest of the week should be fairly quiet. the damage is done, however.
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JMII
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Knowing what hurricanes can do to an area gives you a better idea how to pepare.
Agreed. My wife thinks I'm a sick-o for watching all this hurricane coverage but living in South FL I know the next time it could be our family on top of our own roof waiting for the helicopters to come. After last years record number of landfalls we added new items to our "hurricane safe box" - mostly surgical type medical items (gloves, anti-bacterial creams, ect).
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tashina
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Local TV is reporting that the 17th st levee fix has failed and to get this out to everyone ASAP in case anyone can reach relatives.The pump is being disabled. The East Bank of Jefferson Parish and Orleans Parish is expected to now flood to 3' above sea level - estimated 12'-15' of water.
Edit: They just corrected themselves- the 3' above sea level is correct. It should be 9' of flooding in the next 12-15 hours.
The feed I'm watching is:
http://www.khou.com/perl/common/video/wmPlayer.pl?title=beloint_khou&props=livenoad
Edited by tashina (Tue Aug 30 2005 11:57 PM)
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Humanriff
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Amazing video here, now
http://www.wwltv.com/perl/common/video/wmPlayer.pl?title=beloint_khou&props=livenoad
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This just keeps getting worse and worse. Reports of 60,000 in the Superdome they need to get out, people on their roof all over town, people trapped in waist-deep toxic waters, and with the water continuing to rise, it's going to be very, very difficult to get all of these people out. The entire region is under martial law and if things keep getting worse, the predictions of allowing people back in next week to get some things aren't even going to be able to hold.
My prayers to all of those affected by this -- and hopefully this is one that will not be topped for a very, very long time.
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BTfromAZ
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Some of the national media who didn't "get it" seem to be waking up. The Wall Street Journal, which carried their stories in the second section of this morning's print edition and included statements such as "An aging New Orleans levee broke, but the city was spared utter devastation as the storm failed to reach predicted levels", now carries a lead headline on their web site that says: " Crisis Worsens; Superdome to Be Evacuated"
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Jeffmidtown
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I continue to watch the coverage of the unfolding tragedy and it keeps getting worse and worse and worse. Now I hear the 17th St Levee repair has failed and there could be 9' of water in parts of Jefferson and Orleans parish.
Every time I watch or see a report on-line I have to fight back tears and with the latest report I have to think...My God how much more suffering are these people are going to endure?
Please everyone, look up the charity folks and get in touch with them to donate to them as well if youre religious or not, say a prayer for the folks on the gulf coast.
I'm sorry if this is off topic and if you need to delete it, I understand, but here in Atlanta I'm sitting here crying as I write this....
Stay Safe everyone
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BTfromAZ
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CNN is broadcasting comments from a WDSU (NO NBC affiliate) reporter who says their station's transmitter was "fried" but, worse yet, they found it impossible to report the story from New Orleans because people were demanding their reporters hand over their cameras or anything else that could be used for barter. The station has packed up and moved to Jackson, MS!!! He also mentioned reports of car-jacking and a policeman being shot. What we have here, folks, is anarchy and it will only get worse until large numbers of military troops arrive. Where are they?
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VolusiaMike
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Reports coming in are not good. The initial Overhead Team (group that sets up the systems necessary for emergency responses), many of whom have worked all disasters since Hurricane Andrew, indicate that the situation is the worst they have ever faced. That is especially significant considering some of the events these people have worked.
Looting in NO is starting to get out of control. Police are too busy to deal with the looters - remember they are still in search and rescue operations, plus dealing with their own situations (lost homes, family members, etc.).
Tomorrow the DMORT's (Disaster Mortuary Operatonal Response Teams) will move into the area. Locations of known bodies are being marked, but they have nowhere currently to take the bodies. The DMORT units will set that up tomorrow. I am afraid that the total toll of this terrible storm will not be known for many days.
USAR (Urban Search and Rescue) Teams are being brought in from all over the country.
The support necessary to sustain these operations will be incredible. Teams going in now are taking what they need to survive for a minimum of five days. After Andrew, the Army set up feeding stations for emergency workers, which will probably occur in this situation. Many teams have mobile canteens to support their teams and can get resupplied to keep operations going.
One big issue always is, and will certainly be in this situation, the availability of fuel for the equipment.
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words can no longer describe the magnitude of this disaster...i'm currently watching some of the most amazing (and sickening) footage on msnbc shot by their chopper pilot showing 17 (that's seventeen!) miles of utter devastation along the mississippi coast...
they mentioned that among other areas, hattiesburg was also devastated...speaking of which
i still have heard nothing from danny or frank or rick...
i'm sure their priorities are not to post here and i doubt any of them have power or phone...possibly even residences...i can only hope they still have their lives
if there's any good news, i (being the weather nut we all are) was able to push my boss to get NY national guard units and others to get their a$$es down to the affected areas...we all remember how much all ya'll helped us after 9/11...well...now it's our turn...
i'm crying as i type this...godspeed to all...of course if i hear anything from anyone, especially danny rick & frank...i'll let the boards know asap
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twizted sizter
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I am seeing shots out of MS...can not believe 90...I'm afraid as they get to some of these areas & start showing more aerial footage that what we've seen already will pale in comparison.
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hey guys! i just got on. ive been watching the news all day today and seeing the heartbreaking videos. i keep thinking about what if that was us here in fl and what if it happens this yr. found out that my wive 's uncle lost his house in gulfport but is staying in jax. he is ok thank god! ive been so depressed all day watching this footage and im watching msnbc right now. did i hear them correctly comparing it too hiroshima and other things? i really feel for those people and my prayers go out too them. i think its time for hollywood too step up and do something and other countries. thank god for americans! thank you ryan and god bless you and ny. im moving too buffalo area next yr so illl be a nyorker. but i just hope we dont go through this in fl. 
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Ryan
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Hey, Ryan here
im devestated when i see all this destruction..it makes me sick to see people looting, so stupid, eveyone needs help down there so don't go causing more damage and fighting over things that arent even yours.
You may think oh why is he soo devestated he lives on LI, my best friend moved to Pascagoula, MS, their home was pick up and dragged through their neighboors home, destroying them both. And i know other people down their, like my aunt and uncle. They have 4 kids and their grandparents live with them(my great grandparents). My great grandma passed away as flood waters came up drowning her and my great grandpa died from a heart attack. My g.gma's body is yet to be found. This is a horrific event, i feel guilty almost. I wish there was anything i could do.
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LI Phil
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I wish there was anything i could do.
you can ryan...help the red cross help the victims...and it doesn't have to be money...donate blood, man a call center, gather up clothes, bottled water, blankets, anything they say will be needed...click the post at the top of every page on this site or call 1-800-HELP-NOW. you can also pay pal mike on this site and he'll get the money there...
anyone and everyone who can help in any way...please do so...this isn't a local disaster, it's an AMERICAN disaster...
>>> im moving too buffalo area next yr so illl be a nyorker
well, not really, but thanks for your kind words...
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Clark
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Ryan, my condolences to you and your family on your losses. It's never easy losing a loved one, especially in a circumstance such as this. I can only hope that the cleanup can go well in that area and you all will be able to have some closure on this event.
It goes to show you how far reaching the impacts of this storm are (and will continue to be) -- everyone is going to be emotionally drained, if not already, and on edge for quite some time. Hang in there and hopefully, things will get better. When there's nothing else, there is hope.
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MissouriHurricane2008
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WOW! The damage in Biloxi, Gulfport, and New Orleans is azmazing. We havent even been able to get to all the areas hit by the hurricane. These people are going need months to rebuild. All i can say is WOW at the damage. I will be praying for these people.
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Big Red Machine
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Oh my. I was pretty pessimistic coming into this. It's obvious that I was not pessimistic enough.
Horrible news below. For those of you who have been on all day today. I posted earlier about this particular prison I believe. Apparently things took a turn.
And Ryan, my sincerest apologies for you and your family at this time.
http://abcnews.go.com/US/HurricaneKatrina/story?id=1081633&page=1
Aug. 30, 2005 — Inmates at a prison in hurricane-ravaged New Orleans have rioted, attempted to escape and are now holding hostages, a prison commissioner told ABC News affiliate WBRZ in Baton Rouge, La.
Orleans Parish Prison Commissioner Oliver Thomas reported the incident to WBRZ.
A deputy at Orleans Parish Prison, his wife and their four children have been taken hostage by rioting prisoners after riding out Hurricane inside the jail building, according to WBRZ.
Officials are expected to hold a press conference regarding the riots at 9 p.m. ET.
A woman interviewed by WBRZ said her son, a deputy at the prison whose family is among the hostages, told her that many of the prisoners have fashioned homemade weapons. Her son had brought his family there hoping they would be safe during the storm.
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Well, I'm back from New York. We have many who evacuated here in Beaumont. Many here have family in Louisiana
who are now staying with them. I expected that would head more towards Louisiana because our weatherman had told
us we had a high over us that should protect us. Anyway, we here in Beaumont are praying for all of our neighbors in Louisiana
and Mississippi.
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