troy2
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Hurricane off greece?!
http://www.mindspring.com/~jbeven/medthur2.gif
some reading to go along with that...
http://www.mindspring.com/~jbeven/intr0008.htm
Edited by troy2 (Tue Oct 01 2002 07:22 PM)
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troy2
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Hurricane off greece?!
http://www.mindspring.com/~jbeven/medthur2.gif
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troy2
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Bill
try here for that January storm
I think it may be the Alice strm that formed in December and lasted until Jan 5
http://www.noaanews.noaa.gov/stories/s959.htm
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Bill
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Thanks Troy...but when I clicked the link it went to the El Nino page, nothing about Hurricane Alice (that was the name I recalled)...was this in 1959?
Is there another link?
Thanks again!
IHS,
Bill
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HanKFranK
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here's another oddball.. mentioned this before. look at the unisys archives, first storm of 1951, able. a normal near miss track near hatteras as a cat 3. then take note, the storm occurred in may.
www.weather.unisys.com
go to the archives, select 1851-2000, 1951, and able.
try 1908 as well. march of that year.
and finally, 1887. look at how much happened late in the season.
HF 1943z01october
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Bill
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I went back and did the word search. I remember this Alice, it formed NE of the Islands and moved SW, it is not the Miami storm.
If anyone can find it, please let me know. Meteoro-sleuthing in progress.
IHS,
Bill
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troy2
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Bill I did a search using January and tropical storm as well as January and Hurricane. I of course did not use Miami and Hurricane in the same search b/c of all the green and orange that would pop up 
could not find it at http://www.weather.unisys.com/
either
You would thinka landfalling storm would come up before on that did not.
Maybe the Miami herald Archives or something might have that info
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VolusiaMike
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I found a Hurricane Alice in the HurTrack historical database. Started 12-30-54, disapated 01-06-55, winds 81 mph, lowest pressure 1007 mb. Started just west of Lesser Antilles, moved north, then north east over the chain of islands and disappated.
If you need more, e-mail Longfellow@Ormondbeach.org
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troy2
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Bill on that link that i gave, please read down further under the grayed in text area with the caption "Hurricane Facts"
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Frank P
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Best fix I could get off the vis for Lili was 22.66N and 84.84W.... motion still off to the wnw with just a hint of a northerly component... up .36 north and over west .44 from the 2:00 pm position... if my estimated position is correct... margin of error probably at least 10%....
most of the models now in good agreement and take Lili into SW or SC LA... that remains to be seen... I have not written off SE LA just quite yet by no stretch...
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Bill
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Thank you all for your help, apparently I came across this in a text about unusual huirricane tracks and it is so unusual it does not exist!
Back to Lili- if you take a look at latest vis sat and EYW radar, you'll see Lili has wobbled back to the west, hence 'smoothing' it's track show a pretty good 295-300 degree heading overall. This will change however, starting tonight through tomorrow (sometime in that timeframe) with a more northerly course.
Hint: look at the upper low in the west gulf on w/v .
The joker is Kyle of course.....
IHS,
Bill
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turkeyman
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From the calculations I've made. Lil' has moved more North as of 3pm CDT than any of the other advisories. That high building up over FL is the determinant. How strong and how far reaching it makes it is extremely important. The MS river delta magnatizes these storms for some reason. Most Gulf storms traverse the delta region like most flights out of NO go through Atlanta first. (Just a comparison of past experience). Also, doesn't the earths' rotation deal with the steering of storms North of the 25 or 26 longitude?
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caneman
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Bill, I see the ULL but it appears to be retrograding west in tandem with Lilli. I've been saying all along it won't go to Texas but I honestly don't see anything that will take it off this current track.
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game
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lilly looks to be moving more n/w last 3 frames what about uper low west gulf could it turn the storm more n/w
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chevyman
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Hurricane Jerry hit Texas Oct.16 1989! 100 mph winds at coast of Galveston.
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caneman
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Yeah, but I believe that originated out of BOC and went due North.
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hurricanefreak
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I think you all just want it to go to where you're living! Well if that's the game we're playing then it's coming to Texas!
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joepub1
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Winds are up to 45 mph, stalled.
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kyle
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does anyone seem to think that the watches are a little to far west?
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Unloggedsteve
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At 4 PM CDT...the center of Hurricane Lili was located near latitude
22.7 north...longitude 85.0 west or about 55 miles...90 km...north
of Cabo San Antonio Cuba. This is also about 600 miles...965 km...
southeast of New Orleans Louisiana.
Lili is moving toward the northwest near 15 mph...24 km/hr...and
this general motion is expected to continue for the next 24 hours.
This motion should take the center away from western Cuba and into
the open Gulf of Mexico tonight.
Maximum sustained winds are near 105 mph...165 km/hr...with higher
gusts. This makes Lili a category 2 hurricane on the Saffir-Simpson
hurricane scale. Additional strengthening is forecast during the
next 24 hours.
Steve
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