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Area off the Southeast US Coast has a 10% to develop, either way will be wet in parts of the Southeast/NC this weekend. Beryl gone but not forgotten in Houston area where power outages still are widespread.
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Re: Rita [Re: danielw]
      #57246 - Sat Sep 24 2005 06:24 AM

"I apologize for the lengthy posts. These are the updated Hurricane Local Statements from the affected areas. Apparently, due to communication problems and other problems, no reports of damage or surge have been received by the NWS offices.~danielw"
Given the yeoman-like service you have contributed to this site for hours on end and on many days, the last thing in the world that you should have on your mind is the thought that you have need to apologize to us. We here are all greatly in your debt for your service to us.

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Re: Rita [Re: Multi-Decadal Signal]
      #57248 - Sat Sep 24 2005 07:55 AM

Central Arkansas here. Skies heavy clouds but no rainfall yet. Temp has dropped to 70 with a slight intermittent breeze--a very welcome relief. Calls for 1-4" of rain this afternoon but I can't find anything on how fast. Late summer here always means the ground is like virtual concrete. Storms that dump fast and heavy mean serious issues throughout the state. Can anyone steer me to helpful info?

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Re: Rita [Re: collegemom]
      #57250 - Sat Sep 24 2005 08:50 AM

very surprised this sit is soo slow on this storm..

been up watching this all night, early morning assesment that alot of the major cities like NO, Houston, Galveston esacped the damage.


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collegemom
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Re: Rita [Re: nate77]
      #57251 - Sat Sep 24 2005 09:35 AM

I hear that. Solid cloud cover and steady breeze here. I sure hope the 100's are gone for the year......

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Re: Rita [Re: collegemom]
      #57252 - Sat Sep 24 2005 09:38 AM

I see the GFDL and another model are bringing Rita back into the Gulf south of Alabama...could this be like Ivan last year, regenerating again?

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Re: Rita Nearing Landfall at the Texas / Louisiana Border [Re: MikeC]
      #57253 - Sat Sep 24 2005 10:29 AM

And what intersting that if it does regenerate into a storm again florida would possibley deal with this storm by next week.

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Re: Rita Nearing Landfall at the Texas / Louisiana Border [Re: hurricane expert]
      #57254 - Sat Sep 24 2005 10:49 AM

Speaking of which, NWS says there's still a chance for Phillippe to reform. If so, where is it going and isn't it odd for a storm to sit for so long, dissipate, then go north and reform over what i assume is colder water???

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Re: Rita Nearing Landfall at the Texas / Louisiana Border [Re: wiley]
      #57256 - Sat Sep 24 2005 11:21 AM

Hi, just wondering were everybody is? during Katrina's landfall the place was packed with reports and info, but with Rita hardly any news?
anyway i hope all are well and Rita has not done to much loss of life.
A quick question:
If Rita or Phillippe redevelop will they be renamed like the TD that was before Katrina?
thanks

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Re: Rita Nearing Landfall at the Texas / Louisiana Border [Re: hurricane expert]
      #57257 - Sat Sep 24 2005 11:23 AM

I hope those models are just bored because Rita has lost her figure!

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collegemom
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Re: Rita Nearing Landfall at the Texas / Louisiana Border [Re: GuppieGrouper]
      #57258 - Sat Sep 24 2005 11:26 AM

Anybody on near Nachadoches? I understand she just went over taking roofs in town. Was talking to my Dad's USNA roommate from '51 when the phones went dead.

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Re: Rita Nearing Landfall at the Texas / Louisiana Border [Re: TheSkyGuy-in-OZ]
      #57259 - Sat Sep 24 2005 11:28 AM

I can tell you that when the situation becomes serious or catastrophic those of us who have nothing intelligent to add, back off to give the space to people who can provide guidance, or need to get guidance. When the storm is approaching from a safe location, we who have nothing important to add will conversate about the storm in order to glean facts in general about the weather. For those who are being directly affected by the storm, they either have no internet service or are protecting their families. It is not lack of interest. I have read every single post since this storm became threatening to anyone, but have posted very little. And, you can see above, I have very little to contribute.

Edited by GuppieGrouper (Sat Sep 24 2005 11:30 AM)


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Re: Rita Nearing Landfall at the Texas / Louisiana Border [Re: TheSkyGuy-in-OZ]
      #57260 - Sat Sep 24 2005 11:40 AM

There's just not that much information to be had with Rita yet. Many of the hardest hit areas from the storm are likely without any means of communication, while the slow motion of the storm is keeping it unsafe for people to head out into those areas and see what has occurred. Coupled with an overnight landfall, keeping many awake into the early morning hours following the storm, there's just not going to be a lot of news coming out right now. It'll trickle out through the day today but really start to come out on Sunday, once the storm is a bit further away and more people get into the hardest hit areas.

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Re: Rita Nearing Landfall at the Texas / Louisiana Border [Re: GuppieGrouper]
      #57263 - Sat Sep 24 2005 11:57 AM

thanks, GuppieGrouper
I thort as much, but it was much different thro' Katrina
as this is my only source of information on this storm, I was hoping for some reports.
but it is much more important that people help each other over there (I can wait)
Hopefully this is your last big one this year
we have our season coming up (its reported to be a big one too)

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onward then? [Re: TheSkyGuy-in-OZ]
      #57264 - Sat Sep 24 2005 12:29 PM

center is inland near jasper, tx right now. should be up near marshall as a a tropical storm late this afternoon, and weakening to a depression near texarkana overnight. system keeps moving and the models stalling/looping have shifted more eastward, so now it's a slow east jog to ms. the potential for it to move back out into the gulf is advertised by some models, but their newer reluctance to turn it back has me thinking it's inland to stay. one note is how the media has already reported that new orleans got off better than expected... that they hardly got the rain they'd expected. of course, anybody up on current events will notice that Rita is still dumping a lot of rain and should get new orleans wet intermittently through the next few days. the tandem surge/heavy rainfall threat appears low, so they're right in at least that respect... but the threat of more trouble for new orleans hasn't gone away. they called the storm a bust just a little early on august 29th; hopefully they aren't going to repeat the mistake less than a month later.
kinda wondering if philippe will be back. the swirl from it has been looped around inside the broader low that 'absorbed' it, but it's about as absorbed as a rock would be in your stomach. if it serves as the main cell around which a tropical system generates out there, i'd consider it a regeneration of philippe.. though not sure what the NHC would call it. whole mess is moving northeast now.
wave out near 33w appears to be the only other game in town. it won't develop anything for a couple more days if at all, so we're probably down to tracking a decaying Rita for the weekend. enjoy the peace and quiet.. MJO is switched 'on' right now and as soon as the basin shear ticks down a notch in places we'll see some more action.
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ssd has a too weak rating on the 33w wave/low. still probably won't do anyting before monday. -HF

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Re: Rita Nearing Landfall at the Texas / Louisiana Border [Re: TheSkyGuy-in-OZ]
      #57265 - Sat Sep 24 2005 12:36 PM

Quote:

as this is my only source of information on this storm, I was hoping for some reports.




http://www.click2houston.com has a live video stream up, but since Houston was spared from a direct impact there coverage right now is more focused on traffic jams resulting from people trying to get back into the city (no gas). Wind is still gusting to around 40 mph in Port Authur TX where the eye came ashore, combined that with the number of trees down and they simply can't get into the most damaged areas yet. Lake Charles, LA took a hard hit, check the main news sites like CNN, MSNBC, FoxNews, ect. Seems the coastal flooding (storm surge) is not as bad as first feared, it's mostly wind damage so far.

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Re: Rita Nearing Landfall at the Texas / Louisiana Border [Re: TheSkyGuy-in-OZ]
      #57267 - Sat Sep 24 2005 01:27 PM

I think the other thing is that the coastline of LA most affected is sparsely populated to start and probably close to fully evacuated which is a big difference from the areas East of Katrina's landfall. For Rita most of the media was on the west of the landfall location but for Katrina there was coverage on both sides too.

I think it's safe to say that there is lots of wind damage in a big area. Surge, especially well inland at low elevation (where the people are) is the big question right now I guess. It was forecast to be high, but I haven't seen info to support or discount that yet.


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Re: Rita Nearing Landfall at the Texas / Louisiana Border [Re: bobbutts]
      #57268 - Sat Sep 24 2005 01:42 PM

Just saw the Mayor of Sulphur LA on TWC say that he was not aware of any major surge flooding so that's good news.. Flying around the area east of Lake Charles and south of I-10 in google earth it pretty much appears to be swamps and farms all the way to the coast. Makes me a little more optimistic about the surge impacts.

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Texas Oil and Gas Assoc. [Re: bobbutts]
      #57269 - Sat Sep 24 2005 01:54 PM

Texas Oil and Gas Association just came on CBS and asked that people NOT try to return to Houston yet. They said there is a shortage of gas along the evacuation corridors. Since they are running supplies out of Corpus right now, the priority is for emergency vehicles.

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Re: Rita Nearing Landfall at the Texas / Louisiana Border [Re: JMII]
      #57270 - Sat Sep 24 2005 01:59 PM


KLVI radio in Beaumont has a live internet feed... they occasionally switch to KTRH in Houston, but they are still on directly from Beaumont too...

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Re: Rita Nearing Landfall at the Texas / Louisiana Border [Re: bobbutts]
      #57271 - Sat Sep 24 2005 03:15 PM

It is not "swamps and farms."

Go to mapquest and zoom in. There are lots of tiny communities throughout the area, which is lowlands with lakes and bayous.

Cameron Parish alone is home to about 10,000 people and approximately 1/3 of its land is water. About 13,000 people come to visit for the annual Cajun festival, and about 20,000 come per month to the wildlife refuges there, in much the same way that many go to the Boundary Waters Canoe Area in MN.

Vermillion Parish just to the east has over 50,000 people.

News reports say that Terrebone Parish took 7 to 8 feet of water.

Water is continuing to rise in Lake Charles.

From Steve Gregory's blog: " we are again seeing 'initial media' reports of not so bad -- only to find out hours later that there was and is extremely bad damage -- but the media just wasn't there. Overall -- it appears this storm produced the same type and scope of damage that Ivan did last year "

He also said that as of 11:30am a strong feeder band was still producing gusts of hurricane strength to the east of Lafayette all the way down to Grand Isle (which is the tip of Jefferson Parish). Since then it appears this band has moved north and is over Jackson MS.

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