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SeaMule
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zoom in on the RGB [Re: Hugh]
      #87859 - Sun Jun 27 2010 07:39 PM

and tell me this thing is moving nw...maybe even a tad more north than that. It's sure what I see. someone work with me here...do ya see it?

oilageddon....i sure hope not


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Re: zoom in on the RGB [Re: SeaMule]
      #87860 - Sun Jun 27 2010 07:51 PM

if you take a look at Hi-Res close-up sats in last two hrs... the storms that fired on the northern side of coc... got strong enough to send a downburst to the north... u gotta look close, cus sun is fading, but clearly there is a downburst from the storms that just fired off the center... which to me means that Alex is cooking again... recon within 25 miles of center. NE side

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Re: Tropical Storm Alex Landfalls in Belize [Re: MikeC]
      #87861 - Sun Jun 27 2010 07:51 PM

Recon has recorded 3 consecutive pressure reading in the 991mb range. Thats quite a bit deeper and there are vast areas of TS force winds

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Re: Tropical Storm Alex Landfalls in Belize [Re: WeatherNut]
      #87862 - Sun Jun 27 2010 07:54 PM

see that... and i as wrote.. new data supports that Alex appears to be a TS again... SMFR data shows 40mph surface winds east and north of center

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Re: Alex Continues Toward The WNW [Re: Ed Dunham]
      #87863 - Sun Jun 27 2010 08:01 PM

Try this one (before it gets too dark):

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/TROP/float1.html

Click on visible - short loop. Bring up to maximum speed. Click on Zoom. Click on the area that you want to magnify (at least six times). Center is pretty easy to locate.
ED


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Re: Tropical Storm Alex Landfalls in Belize [Re: Storm Hunter]
      #87864 - Sun Jun 27 2010 08:01 PM

recon did a loop on coc at 2kft... its within 10 miles off the coast.. they hit flight level center at 19.2167N 91.0833W... appears to the flight level center is very small.. maybe 15 miles wide at 2k ft. with a flight level temp in middel at 71F, dew pt. 57F

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Edited by Storm Hunter (Sun Jun 27 2010 08:03 PM)


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Re: Tropical Storm Alex Landfalls in Belize [Re: Storm Hunter]
      #87865 - Sun Jun 27 2010 08:02 PM

Curious flight pattern.... it looks like they circled the LLC, but didn't go into it. They're headed outbound now. Will they make another pass?

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Re: Tropical Storm Alex Landfalls in Belize [Re: Hugh]
      #87866 - Sun Jun 27 2010 08:14 PM

so far the data i have seen supports a TS with winds of 40mph... haven't seen anything that would show higher... the max winds appears to be on the north side... maybe NW, but only 25 miles or less from center... Recon is approaching the heavy feeder band to the NW of COC.

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convection firing 360 [Re: Storm Hunter]
      #87867 - Sun Jun 27 2010 08:20 PM

degrees around the COC. Doesn't take much imagination to see Alex gettin it going pretty quick.

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Re: Alex Continues Toward The WNW [Re: Unregistered User]
      #87868 - Sun Jun 27 2010 08:33 PM



Interesting Ed, this may atone for the odd model behavior I noted earlier, of the 12Z guidance. They were showing a broadened llv pressure pattern and weakening wind field, and then out of now where a closure took place along the NW Yucatan Penn - it was as though the vorticity sheared out and severed into a newly developing system! Fascinating, but perhaps it was the displaced(ing) mlv center then drilling down when/if new convection develops as the overall lower pressure core goes back over the hot waters of the Bay.


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Re: Alex Continues Toward The WNW [Re: typhoon_tip]
      #87869 - Sun Jun 27 2010 08:38 PM


It appears there was some recent rejuvenation of convective banding. Also, Alex has slowed some this evening in his forward motion. This could be a concern that a track change is about to take place.


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Re: Alex Continues Toward The WNW [Re: typhoon_tip]
      #87870 - Sun Jun 27 2010 08:41 PM

Center fix from dropsonde shows 991mb

A. Time of Center Fix: 27th day of the month at 23:45:00Z
B. Center Fix Coordinates: 19°13'N 91°06'W (19.2167N 91.1W)
B. Center Fix Location: 58 miles (93 km) to the SW (221°) from Campeche, Campeche, México.

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Re: Alex Continues Toward The WNW [Re: Storm Hunter]
      #87871 - Sun Jun 27 2010 08:56 PM

Appears 00Z Data went with TS Alex...

Date: Jun. 28, 2010 0:00 Z (Monday)
Coordinates: 19.2N 91.1W
Pressure (MSLP): 991 mb (29.27 inHg | 991 hPa)
Wind speed (1 min. avg.): 35 knots (40 mph | 18 m/s | 65 km/h)
Location: 59 statue miles (94 km) to the SW (220°) from Campeche, Campeche, México.
Isobar details: The last closed isobar has a pressure of 1004 mb. (29.65 inHg | 1004 hPa) The radius of the last closed isobar is 200 nautical miles (230 miles | 370 kilometers).
Radius of Max Winds: 20 nautical miles (23 miles | 37 kilometers)
System Depth: Deep

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Re: Alex Continues Toward The WNW [Re: Storm Hunter]
      #87872 - Sun Jun 27 2010 08:56 PM

They confirmed 991mb pressure and 47mph winds...so looks like it is a TS again

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Re: Alex Continues Toward The WNW [Re: Storm Hunter]
      #87873 - Sun Jun 27 2010 09:06 PM

This thing is a lot more impressive leaving the land than when it entered it.

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Re: Alex Continues Toward The WNW [Re: WeatherNut]
      #87874 - Sun Jun 27 2010 09:07 PM

47 mph? Is that SFC or fl?

Either way, it's enough to upgrade... but that would be a big jump at the surface.

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Re: Alex Continues Toward The WNW [Re: Hugh]
      #87875 - Sun Jun 27 2010 09:16 PM

00z data did go with TS Alex. Recon is making second pass and prolly last pass on center as i write this.

Alex 00Z data:

...INITIAL CONDITIONS...
LATCUR = 19.2N LONCUR = 91.1W DIRCUR = 300DEG SPDCUR = 7KT
LATM12 = 18.6N LONM12 = 90.1W DIRM12 = 299DEG SPDM12 = 9KT
LATM24 = 17.5N LONM24 = 88.1W
WNDCUR = 35KT RMAXWD = 20NM WNDM12 = 30KT
CENPRS = 991MB OUTPRS = 1004MB OUTRAD = 200NM SDEPTH = D
RD34NE = 150NM RD34SE = 20NM RD34SW = 20NM RD34NW = 60NM

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Re: Alex Continues Toward The WNW [Re: Storm Hunter]
      #87876 - Sun Jun 27 2010 09:35 PM

recon recent pass shows flight level center... sw of last fix... 10 miles or so... but winds seemed to have increased... i saw a peak SMRF of 56mph... alot of SMFR winds in 45-50 mph range to the ene of COC...

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Re: Alex Continues Toward The WNW [Re: Storm Hunter]
      #87877 - Sun Jun 27 2010 09:39 PM

Is this a new recon report? winds are higher than last?
This is only first part of the message


Storm ALEX: Observed By Air Force #304
Storm #01 in Atlantic Ocean
Maximum Flight Level Winds Were 42KT (48.3mph 77.8km/h) In N Quadrant At 23:19:50Z
Estimated Max Surface Winds 37.8KT (43.5mph 70.0km/h) *
Misc Remarks: SLP EXTRAP FROM 925 MB ;
Date/Time of Recon Report: Sunday, June 27, 2010 9:12:00 PM (Mon, 28 Jun 2010 01:12:00 UTC)


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Re: Alex Continues Toward The WNW [Re: mwillis]
      #87879 - Sun Jun 27 2010 10:32 PM

Forward motion of Alex has really slowed down a lot, to be almost stationary.

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