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Re: Ian Lounge
      Sat Sep 24 2022 03:38 PM

Recon, something we did not have much benefit of the past 48 hours as flights were focusing on Fiona, has spent a great deal of time in Ian today, and the data is significant.

The first thing of note, is that Ian is rather troffy, with possibly still multiple swirls, or "centers," old and new, rotating about a midpoint of the troffy-storm. In addition, it still seems be feeling the push possibly a little bit more southward than largely forecast by the narrow ridge to its north. Finally, the pressure does not yet seem to be falling, and winds are not picking up.

All the above taken together casts further doubt on the reliability of the near unanimous model consensus of a direct Florida west coast landfall. The minority reports, the outliers initially weaker and then further left (west) in the long-range, clearly have some validity.


In fact, there has only been one VDM so far today, from 1042z, predawn and many hours ago, that fixed way down at 13.54N 74.58W, and on its own did not make a compelling case for tropical storm intensity.
Quote:

A. Time of Center Fix: 24th day of the month at 10:42:29Z
B. Center Fix Coordinates: 13.54N 74.58W
D. Minimum Sea Level Pressure: 1006mb (29.71 inHg)
L. Estimated (by SFMR or visually) Maximum Surface Wind Outbound: 32kts (36.8mph)
M. Location & Time of the Estimated Maximum Surface Wind Outbound: 134 nautical miles (154 statute miles) to the NNE (30°) of center fix at 11:16:28Z
Q. Maximum Flight Level Temp & Pressure Altitude Inside Eye: 19°C (66°F) at a pressure alt. of 1,541m (5,056ft)
R. Dewpoint Temp (collected at same location as temp inside eye): 18°C (64°F)
S. Fix Determined By: Penetration and Wind
Remarks Section:
Maximum Flight Level Wind: 31kts (~ 35.7mph) which was observed 138 nautical miles (159 statute miles) to the NNE (30°) from the flight level center at 11:17:18Z
Maximum Flight Level Temp: 19°C (66°F) which was observed 12 nautical miles (14 statute miles) to the NNE (30°) from the flight level center




0z models out later tonight may respond in meaningful way. Track and intensity remain in play, particularly track, as Ian is still more likely than not to become a Major. But a Florida peninsula landfall, maybe not so locked in. We can certainly hope not, for the probable strength and size of Ian around that time could be devastating for locations such as the Keys and Tampa.

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* Ian Lounge cieldumort Sat Sep 24 2022 03:38 PM
. * * Re: Ian Lounge cieldumort   Thu Sep 29 2022 01:31 PM
. * * Re: Ian Lounge cieldumort   Wed Sep 28 2022 04:36 AM
. * * Re: Ian Lounge IsoFlame   Wed Sep 28 2022 06:24 AM
. * * Re: Ian Lounge cieldumort   Wed Sep 28 2022 06:51 AM
. * * Re: Ian Lounge JMII   Wed Sep 28 2022 09:00 AM
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. * * Re: Ian Lounge JMII   Wed Sep 28 2022 10:55 AM
. * * Re: Ian Lounge Owlguin   Wed Sep 28 2022 12:38 PM
. * * Re: Ian Lounge Psyber   Wed Sep 28 2022 07:22 PM
. * * Re: Ian Lounge Rhino7170   Thu Sep 29 2022 03:16 AM
. * * Re: Ian Lounge GeorgeN   Wed Sep 28 2022 08:58 PM
. * * Re: Ian Lounge Rhino7170   Thu Sep 29 2022 03:19 AM
. * * Re: Ian Lounge JMII   Wed Sep 28 2022 10:56 PM
. * * Re: Ian Lounge Psyber   Wed Sep 28 2022 11:40 PM
. * * Re: Ian Lounge JMII   Thu Sep 29 2022 11:20 AM
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. * * Re: Ian Lounge Psyber   Thu Sep 29 2022 01:20 AM
. * * Re: Ian Lounge kapSt.Cloud   Thu Sep 29 2022 11:38 AM
. * * Re: Ian Lounge TanukiMario   Thu Sep 29 2022 01:12 PM
. * * Re: Ian Lounge GeorgeN   Thu Sep 29 2022 07:42 PM
. * * Re: Ian Lounge JMII   Fri Sep 30 2022 12:14 PM
. * * Re: Ian Lounge TanukiMario   Fri Sep 30 2022 02:46 PM
. * * Re: Ian Lounge JMII   Fri Sep 30 2022 04:18 PM
. * * Re: Ian Lounge Psyber   Sat Oct 01 2022 04:48 PM
. * * Re: Ian Lounge kapSt.Cloud   Sat Oct 01 2022 11:19 PM
. * * Re: Ian Lounge Psyber   Thu Sep 29 2022 04:15 PM
. * * Re: Ian Lounge Rhino7170   Thu Sep 29 2022 03:22 AM
. * * Re: Ian Lounge KornR   Wed Sep 28 2022 08:45 PM
. * * Re: Ian Lounge kapSt.Cloud   Wed Sep 28 2022 08:11 PM
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. * * Re: Ian Lounge JMII   Wed Sep 28 2022 01:22 PM
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. * * Re: Ian Lounge vineyardsaker   Wed Sep 28 2022 04:39 PM
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. * * Re: Ian Lounge cieldumort   Wed Sep 28 2022 06:36 AM
. * * Re: Ian Lounge cieldumort   Tue Sep 27 2022 05:09 AM
. * * Re: Ian Lounge MichaelA   Tue Sep 27 2022 06:33 AM
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. * * Re: Ian Lounge Psyber   Tue Sep 27 2022 05:50 PM
. * * Re: Ian Lounge JMII   Tue Sep 27 2022 08:36 PM
. * * Re: Ian Lounge MichaelA   Tue Sep 27 2022 10:05 PM
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. * * Re: Ian Lounge cieldumort   Sat Sep 24 2022 04:41 PM
. * * Re: Ian Lounge cieldumort   Sat Sep 24 2022 03:38 PM
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. * * Re: Ian Lounge MikeCAdministrator   Sun Sep 25 2022 06:53 AM
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. * * Re: Ian Lounge MikeCAdministrator   Sun Sep 25 2022 04:36 PM
. * * Re: Ian Lounge MichaelA   Sun Sep 25 2022 07:41 PM
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. * * Re: Ian Lounge Keith B   Mon Sep 26 2022 04:18 PM
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. * * Can we get some radar recording Robert   Mon Sep 26 2022 08:10 PM
. * * Re: Can we get some radar recording MikeCAdministrator   Mon Sep 26 2022 08:32 PM
. * * Re: Can we get some radar recording Psyber   Mon Sep 26 2022 08:31 PM
. * * Re: Ian Lounge MikeCAdministrator   Mon Sep 26 2022 01:14 PM
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. * * Storm moving with the shear Robert   Mon Sep 26 2022 07:14 PM
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. * * Re: Ian Lounge Psyber   Mon Sep 26 2022 07:03 PM
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. * * Re: Ian Lounge Keith B   Sun Sep 25 2022 10:31 PM
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. * * Re: Ian Lounge GeorgeN   Sat Sep 24 2022 03:56 PM
. * * Re: Ian Lounge cieldumort   Sat Sep 24 2022 01:47 AM
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. * * Re: Ian Lounge MikeCAdministrator   Sat Sep 24 2022 09:02 AM
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. * * Re: Ian Lounge MikeCAdministrator   Sat Sep 24 2022 03:36 PM
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. * * Re: Ian Lounge Marknole   Sat Sep 24 2022 09:52 AM
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. * * Re: 98L Lounge MikeCAdministrator   Fri Sep 23 2022 07:44 AM
. * * Re: 98L Lounge cieldumort   Thu Sep 22 2022 03:11 AM
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. * * Re: Wave E of Carib (Likely 98L) MikeCAdministrator   Wed Sep 21 2022 06:47 AM
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