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Unseasonably stout wave in Caribbean bringing enhanced showers and tstorms for several days, but lacks model support for development 5/26
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Re: Ian Lounge
      Mon Sep 26 2022 08:18 PM

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I can't imagine many scenarios worse than a brief/slow jog to the ENE as the GFS suggested. It would put the Bay and Pinellas on the right front quadrant of a strong, slow moving cat 3 for 6-8 hours (maybe even 10-12) starting late night Wednesday into much of Thursday.




The only good news with the slower motion is that increases the chances Ian has of sucking in dry air and encountering shear as the global models show unfavorable environmental conditions later on this week. However that scenario only plays out if Ian stays offshore moving N then coming in near the Big Bend region. If it turns ENE sooner into Tampa it will be going full tilt but then surge wouldn't have a chance to pile up as much.






Sucking dry air? From where? The eye appears to be going overland in the next day however the W/W NW side of the storm will stay over HOT water for the entire time it's over Cuba, no matter if it is inland a bit or if it comes in around the tip that points to Cancun.. Storms usually go to Cuba to die, but that's when they're going West and prolonged over the mountains of Cuba.

They don't go there to die when they're basically going north over some of the lowest sea level parts on what appears to be the thinnest strip of land in all of Cuba. Even though Ian is going slow, it won't even be over Cuba longer than a very small period of time versus a lot of "normal" tracks.

If it weakens from Cuba, it will be tiny compared to normal...that is to say that there are a lot of people looking at this like "yeeeap, heading over, Cuba, going to drop all it's energy and turn it into a TD, just like most times!). This isn't that, and some like me see it getting WORSE even though it's over land because it'll still be taking in warm water out of the Yucatan Channel the entire time it's over lCuba until it gets into the Gulf. At that point, it possibly EXPLODES into an H4...maybe FIVE within a day and a half..

The high that is forecast to affect the storm when it's nearly on Florida will most definitely weaken it, but that's after a lot of Gulf.

Lastly, I've said it before, and I'll say it again. The modelling doesn't seem to EVER give enough consideration to SST's. The WORST air pressure this is "forecast" as having is 950ish? I find that VERY hard to believe. Seeing as how every inch of where this storm could go is 30C-34C, they're YET AGAIN ignoring the fact that WHEN Ian gets a defined eyewall(could be now/south of Cuba for all the data we can see), the storm is likely going to have SCARY hot water to spawn more outlying storms from. If it gets that hot water for very long before the high moving in from the North hit's it, the storm is going to explode, and I don't see any modelling that currently captures that at this point. Heck, we could see the high bumping Ian further out into the Gulf for a longer period of time while the low and high duke it out to see who is stronger. *sheug*.

The day I meet a Met who takes SST's as serious as he/she should, I'm going to buy them a drink.

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* Ian Lounge cieldumort Mon Sep 26 2022 08:18 PM
. * * Re: Ian Lounge cieldumort   Thu Sep 29 2022 05:31 PM
. * * Re: Ian Lounge cieldumort   Wed Sep 28 2022 08:36 AM
. * * Re: Ian Lounge IsoFlame   Wed Sep 28 2022 10:24 AM
. * * Re: Ian Lounge cieldumort   Wed Sep 28 2022 10:51 AM
. * * Re: Ian Lounge JMII   Wed Sep 28 2022 01:00 PM
. * * Re: Ian Lounge JMII   Wed Sep 28 2022 02:15 PM
. * * Re: Ian Lounge JMII   Wed Sep 28 2022 02:55 PM
. * * Re: Ian Lounge Owlguin   Wed Sep 28 2022 04:38 PM
. * * Re: Ian Lounge Psyber   Wed Sep 28 2022 11:22 PM
. * * Re: Ian Lounge Rhino7170   Thu Sep 29 2022 07:16 AM
. * * Re: Ian Lounge GeorgeN   Thu Sep 29 2022 12:58 AM
. * * Re: Ian Lounge Rhino7170   Thu Sep 29 2022 07:19 AM
. * * Re: Ian Lounge JMII   Thu Sep 29 2022 02:56 AM
. * * Re: Ian Lounge Psyber   Thu Sep 29 2022 03:40 AM
. * * Re: Ian Lounge JMII   Thu Sep 29 2022 03:20 PM
. * * Re: Ian Lounge kapSt.Cloud   Thu Sep 29 2022 04:45 AM
. * * Re: Ian Lounge Psyber   Thu Sep 29 2022 05:20 AM
. * * Re: Ian Lounge kapSt.Cloud   Thu Sep 29 2022 03:38 PM
. * * Re: Ian Lounge TanukiMario   Thu Sep 29 2022 05:12 PM
. * * Re: Ian Lounge GeorgeN   Thu Sep 29 2022 11:42 PM
. * * Re: Ian Lounge JMII   Fri Sep 30 2022 04:14 PM
. * * Re: Ian Lounge TanukiMario   Fri Sep 30 2022 06:46 PM
. * * Re: Ian Lounge JMII   Fri Sep 30 2022 08:18 PM
. * * Re: Ian Lounge Psyber   Sat Oct 01 2022 08:48 PM
. * * Re: Ian Lounge kapSt.Cloud   Sun Oct 02 2022 03:19 AM
. * * Re: Ian Lounge Psyber   Thu Sep 29 2022 08:15 PM
. * * Re: Ian Lounge Rhino7170   Thu Sep 29 2022 07:22 AM
. * * Re: Ian Lounge KornR   Thu Sep 29 2022 12:45 AM
. * * Re: Ian Lounge kapSt.Cloud   Thu Sep 29 2022 12:11 AM
. * * Re: Ian Lounge Kraig   Thu Sep 29 2022 12:30 AM
. * * Re: Ian Lounge JMII   Wed Sep 28 2022 05:22 PM
. * * Re: Ian Lounge JMII   Wed Sep 28 2022 07:18 PM
. * * Re: Ian Lounge IsoFlame   Wed Sep 28 2022 08:51 PM
. * * Re: Ian Lounge vineyardsaker   Wed Sep 28 2022 08:39 PM
. * * Re: Ian Lounge JMII   Wed Sep 28 2022 08:55 PM
. * * Re: Ian Lounge JMII   Wed Sep 28 2022 09:06 PM
. * * Re: Ian Lounge IsoFlame   Wed Sep 28 2022 10:05 PM
. * * Re: Ian Lounge IsoFlame   Wed Sep 28 2022 09:06 PM
. * * Re: Ian Lounge Kigeliakitten   Wed Sep 28 2022 11:00 PM
. * * Re: Ian Lounge GeorgeN   Wed Sep 28 2022 05:03 PM
. * * Re: Ian Lounge Owlguin   Wed Sep 28 2022 05:18 PM
. * * Re: Ian Lounge cieldumort   Wed Sep 28 2022 10:36 AM
. * * Re: Ian Lounge cieldumort   Tue Sep 27 2022 09:09 AM
. * * Re: Ian Lounge MichaelA   Tue Sep 27 2022 10:33 AM
. * * Re: Ian Lounge JMII   Tue Sep 27 2022 01:00 PM
. * * Re: Ian Lounge IsoFlame   Tue Sep 27 2022 01:41 PM
. * * Re: Ian Lounge JMII   Tue Sep 27 2022 02:27 PM
. * * Re: Ian Lounge Psyber   Tue Sep 27 2022 06:58 PM
. * * Re: Ian Lounge GeorgeN   Tue Sep 27 2022 03:35 PM
. * * Re: Ian Lounge Psyber   Thu Sep 29 2022 08:12 PM
. * * Re: Ian Lounge IsoFlame   Tue Sep 27 2022 04:07 PM
. * * Re: Ian Lounge IsoFlame   Tue Sep 27 2022 04:17 PM
. * * Re: Ian Lounge JMII   Tue Sep 27 2022 05:12 PM
. * * Re: Ian Lounge Psyber   Tue Sep 27 2022 07:05 PM
. * * Re: Ian Lounge MichaelA   Tue Sep 27 2022 08:40 PM
. * * Re: Ian Lounge RevUp   Tue Sep 27 2022 03:18 PM
. * * Re: Ian Lounge GeorgeN   Tue Sep 27 2022 08:52 PM
. * * Re: Ian Lounge MichaelA   Tue Sep 27 2022 09:19 PM
. * * Re: Ian Lounge Psyber   Tue Sep 27 2022 09:50 PM
. * * Re: Ian Lounge JMII   Wed Sep 28 2022 12:36 AM
. * * Re: Ian Lounge MichaelA   Wed Sep 28 2022 02:05 AM
. * * Re: Ian Lounge Psyber   Wed Sep 28 2022 01:33 AM
. * * Re: Ian Lounge JMII   Wed Sep 28 2022 02:35 AM
. * * Re: Ian Lounge JMII   Tue Sep 27 2022 09:17 PM
. * * Re: Ian Lounge cieldumort   Sat Sep 24 2022 08:41 PM
. * * Re: Ian Lounge cieldumort   Sat Sep 24 2022 07:38 PM
. * * Re: Ian Lounge cieldumort   Sat Sep 24 2022 09:58 PM
. * * Re: Ian Lounge IsoFlame   Sun Sep 25 2022 12:15 AM
. * * Re: Ian Lounge MikeCAdministrator   Sun Sep 25 2022 10:53 AM
. * * Re: Ian Lounge MikeCAdministrator   Sun Sep 25 2022 12:52 PM
. * * Re: Ian Lounge MichaelA   Sun Sep 25 2022 11:05 AM
. * * Re: Ian Lounge MikeCAdministrator   Sun Sep 25 2022 12:02 PM
. * * Re: Ian Lounge JMII   Sun Sep 25 2022 01:06 PM
. * * Re: Ian Lounge IsoFlame   Sun Sep 25 2022 05:01 PM
. * * Re: Ian Lounge MikeCAdministrator   Sun Sep 25 2022 08:36 PM
. * * Re: Ian Lounge MichaelA   Sun Sep 25 2022 11:41 PM
. * * Re: Ian Lounge MichaelA   Mon Sep 26 2022 03:17 AM
. * * Re: Ian Lounge Keith B   Mon Sep 26 2022 08:18 PM
. * * Re: Ian Lounge GeorgeN   Mon Sep 26 2022 01:54 PM
. * * Re: Ian Lounge JMII   Mon Sep 26 2022 02:34 PM
. * * Re: Ian Lounge GeorgeN   Mon Sep 26 2022 03:29 PM
. * * Re: Ian Lounge GeorgeN   Mon Sep 26 2022 11:44 PM
. * * Re: Ian Lounge Psyber   Tue Sep 27 2022 12:05 AM
. * * Can we get some radar recording Robert   Tue Sep 27 2022 12:10 AM
. * * Re: Can we get some radar recording MikeCAdministrator   Tue Sep 27 2022 12:32 AM
. * * Re: Can we get some radar recording Psyber   Tue Sep 27 2022 12:31 AM
. * * Re: Ian Lounge MikeCAdministrator   Mon Sep 26 2022 05:14 PM
. * * Re: Ian Lounge Psyber   Mon Sep 26 2022 09:59 PM
. * * Re: Ian Lounge IsoFlame   Mon Sep 26 2022 05:50 PM
. * * Re: Ian Lounge JMII   Mon Sep 26 2022 07:22 PM
. * * Re: Ian Lounge Psyber   Mon Sep 26 2022 08:18 PM
. * * Re: Ian Lounge Kraig   Mon Sep 26 2022 09:49 PM
. * * Re: Ian Lounge Psyber   Mon Sep 26 2022 10:02 PM
. * * Re: Ian Lounge JMII   Mon Sep 26 2022 10:30 PM
. * * Re: Ian Lounge Kraig   Mon Sep 26 2022 11:08 PM
. * * Storm moving with the shear Robert   Mon Sep 26 2022 11:14 PM
. * * Re: Storm moving with the shear Robert   Mon Sep 26 2022 11:38 PM
. * * Re: Ian Lounge Psyber   Mon Sep 26 2022 11:03 PM
. * * Re: Ian Lounge Kraig   Mon Sep 26 2022 11:15 PM
. * * Re: Ian Lounge Psyber   Mon Sep 26 2022 11:56 PM
. * * Re: Ian Lounge Lautermilch   Tue Sep 27 2022 12:44 AM
. * * Re: Ian Lounge Psyber   Tue Sep 27 2022 01:49 AM
. * * Re: Ian Lounge Robert   Mon Sep 26 2022 09:56 PM
. * * Re: Ian Lounge IsoFlame   Mon Sep 26 2022 07:59 PM
. * * Re: Ian Lounge IsoFlame   Mon Sep 26 2022 09:47 PM
. * * Re: Ian Lounge OrlandoDan   Mon Sep 26 2022 03:01 PM
. * * Re: Ian Lounge MichaelA   Mon Sep 26 2022 03:26 PM
. * * Re: Ian Lounge Keith B   Mon Sep 26 2022 02:31 AM
. * * Re: Ian Lounge pongolo   Mon Sep 26 2022 03:16 PM
. * * Re: Ian Lounge GeorgeN   Sat Sep 24 2022 07:56 PM
. * * Re: Ian Lounge cieldumort   Sat Sep 24 2022 05:47 AM
. * * Re: Ian Lounge Keith B   Tue Oct 04 2022 10:26 PM
. * * Re: Ian Lounge IsoFlame   Sat Sep 24 2022 10:27 AM
. * * Re: Ian Lounge IsoFlame   Sat Sep 24 2022 10:57 AM
. * * Re: Ian Lounge MikeCAdministrator   Sat Sep 24 2022 01:02 PM
. * * Re: Ian Lounge JMII   Sat Sep 24 2022 01:59 PM
. * * Re: Ian Lounge MichaelA   Sat Sep 24 2022 03:45 PM
. * * Re: Ian Lounge Southern4sure   Sat Sep 24 2022 04:13 PM
. * * Re: Ian Lounge GeorgeN   Sat Sep 24 2022 06:25 PM
. * * Re: Ian Lounge MikeCAdministrator   Sat Sep 24 2022 07:36 PM
. * * Re: Ian Lounge MikeCAdministrator   Sat Sep 24 2022 09:43 PM
. * * Re: Ian Lounge Marknole   Sat Sep 24 2022 01:52 PM
. * * Re: TD 9 Lounge cieldumort   Fri Sep 23 2022 06:38 PM
. * * Re: TD 9 Lounge IsoFlame   Fri Sep 23 2022 09:06 PM
. * * Re: TD 9 Lounge dolfinatic   Fri Sep 23 2022 08:03 PM
. * * Re: TD 9 Lounge MichaelA   Fri Sep 23 2022 09:13 PM
. * * Re: TD 9 Lounge MichaelA   Sat Sep 24 2022 12:45 AM
. * * Re: TD 9 Lounge JMII   Sat Sep 24 2022 01:15 AM
. * * Re: TD 9 Lounge MikeCAdministrator   Sat Sep 24 2022 01:41 AM
. * * Re: TD 9 Lounge OrlandoDan   Fri Sep 23 2022 09:58 PM
. * * Re: 98L Lounge cieldumort   Thu Sep 22 2022 04:24 PM
. * * Re: 98L Lounge MikeCAdministrator   Fri Sep 23 2022 05:10 AM
. * * Re: 98L Lounge craigm   Fri Sep 23 2022 08:28 AM
. * * Re: 98L Lounge IsoFlame   Fri Sep 23 2022 11:07 AM
. * * Re: 98L Lounge MichaelA   Fri Sep 23 2022 11:47 AM
. * * Re: 98L Lounge JMII   Fri Sep 23 2022 01:03 PM
. * * Re: 98L Lounge Lamar-Plant City   Fri Sep 23 2022 02:56 PM
. * * Re: 98L Lounge Wingwiper   Fri Sep 23 2022 12:46 PM
. * * Re: 98L Lounge MikeCAdministrator   Fri Sep 23 2022 11:44 AM
. * * Re: 98L Lounge cieldumort   Thu Sep 22 2022 07:11 AM
. * * Re: 98L Lounge MikeCAdministrator   Thu Sep 22 2022 11:12 AM
. * * Re: 98L Lounge IsoFlame   Thu Sep 22 2022 12:36 PM
. * * Re: 98L Lounge Kraig   Thu Sep 22 2022 12:59 PM
. * * Re: 98L Lounge GeorgeN   Thu Sep 22 2022 12:25 PM
. * * Re: Wave E of Carib (Likely 98L) IsoFlame   Tue Sep 20 2022 01:39 PM
. * * Re: Wave E of Carib (Likely 98L) GeorgeN   Tue Sep 20 2022 06:13 PM
. * * Re: Wave E of Carib (Likely 98L) IsoFlame   Tue Sep 20 2022 06:58 PM
. * * Re: Wave E of Carib (Likely 98L) Kraig   Tue Sep 20 2022 07:41 PM
. * * Re: Wave E of Carib (Likely 98L) GeorgeN   Tue Sep 20 2022 08:21 PM
. * * Re: Wave E of Carib (Likely 98L) MikeCAdministrator   Wed Sep 21 2022 10:47 AM
. * * Re: Wave E of Carib (Likely 98L) MichaelA   Tue Sep 20 2022 12:08 PM

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