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Newly tagged Invest 91L in the Central American Gyre heading towards MX/TX, a slow and sprawling flood threat. Bahamas hybrid well E of FL 10%/30% odd and expected to track back to the W across FL or SE US this week.
Days since last H. Landfall - US: Any 292 (Idalia) , Major: 292 (Idalia) Florida - Any: 292 (Idalia) Major: 292 (Idalia)
 


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Jason M
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Updated Discussion
      Fri Aug 02 2002 01:26 AM

FORECAST POSTED: 8/01/02/ 9:15 PM EDT

ATLANTIC TROPICAL WEATHER OUTLOOK:

Gulf of Mexico Development???

Here are the latest forecast tracks from the models.

The CMC, MM5 and MRF models are ain close agreement for a more northerly track. These models take the developing low into the Gulf of Mexico and then inland between southeast Louisiana and Pensacola, Florida. They show a stronger ridge to the north than yesterday. They also move the ridge faster than the other models. Therefore, they're forecasting a more northerly track.

Both the UKMET and ECMWF take the low between Corpus Christi and Houston. the models show slow development as the low moves west. The UKMET shows a moderate increase in strength just before landfall.

The NOGAPS model doesn't show much in the way of tropical development. This can be expected since the NOGAPS model is usually the most conservative compared to the other models. NOGAPS takes the low closer to land and it doesn't give the low alot of room to develop. The model is forecasting a big rain event across the state of Lousiana with the center of circulation moving inland over central Louisiana.

The AVN is the only model that takes the low back into the Florida panhandle. The model shows the low moving northeast, along a weakness in the atmosphere, east of the ridge to the north. The model doesn't give the low much time to develop either.

All of the models except for NOGAPS, take the low farther south than yesterday's model runs. This is because they are forecasting the ridge to the north to move farther south. The models are also split as to whether or noth the low will continue moving west towards Texas and a more northerly track between southeast Louisiana and extreme western Florida. This depends on the strength and speed of the high to the north.

I do believe that the chances of tropical development are rising. In fact, I think this one has a pretty good shot at becoming a tropical storm. An anticyclone is expected to build over the Gulf of Mexico, causing the vertical wind shear to begin to diminish. With 90 degree water temperatures, no wind shear and increasing moisture, I don't see why this low would have a hard time developing into at least a minimal tropical storm. Now land will be an inhibiting factor. However, as I said the models are taking the low farther south than yesterday's runs.

A low should emerge off the Florida coast in 24-36 hours. The low should then begin to drift west and should be SSE of New Orleans in roughly 48 hours. Assuming that the low continues a westerly movement, the center should be south of central Louisiana in 72 hours. What happens after that is highly uncertain. I really don't see this being much of a problem for Florida. But anyone living from Brownsville to Mobile should continue to closely monitor this developing low. I am not saying that Florida should forget about the low. But I do feel that FLA will be in the clear this time.

Is development certain? Of course not. But I do think that this one has a good shot at becoming our next named storm.

The rest of the Atlantic basin is quiet...for now. The models are hinting on some possible development near the Bahamas but I am not concerned yet. I will go into more detail on this area tomorrow IF the potential still exists.

The rest of the Atlantic is quiet. The Bermuda is much farther south than average. This is in response to the subtropical low over the central Atlantic. Until the low moves NEWD and out of the picture, the central Atlantic will continue to be covered in sinking air (subsidence).

There are three decent waves over the continent of Africa this evening. This may be the beginning of the African wave train. It will be interesting to see what happpens to these waves once the emerge off the coast. Usually the last one to move off has the greatest potential for development. This is because the waves out ahead of the last one, casuses an increase in the moisture levels across the eastern Atlantic. All three waves have potential but the last one has the better chance. I will be closely monitoring these waves over the next few days as conditions are forecasted to become increasingly favorable for development. Its just a matter of time!

FORECASTER: Jason Moreland


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* July Is Nearing End... CFHCAdministrator Fri Aug 02 2002 01:26 AM
. * * Re: July Is Nearing End... Anonymous   Mon Aug 05 2002 01:10 AM
. * * Diurnal convective minima? Alex k   Sat Aug 03 2002 10:01 PM
. * * Re: Diurnal convective minima? 57497479   Sat Aug 03 2002 11:37 PM
. * * Check Out the Wave comong off of Africa Cocoa Beach   Sat Aug 03 2002 08:25 PM
. * * Re: July Is Nearing End... MikeCAdministrator   Sat Aug 03 2002 01:41 PM
. * * Interesting NWS Melbourne forecast discussion excerpt. Kevin   Sat Aug 03 2002 02:48 PM
. * * Data Bouy Link Cocoa Beach   Fri Aug 02 2002 06:02 PM
. * * 1.0 SAB Estimate for East Coast Low Jason M   Fri Aug 02 2002 01:05 PM
. * * Re: 1.0 SAB Estimate for East Coast Low caneman   Fri Aug 02 2002 01:40 PM
. * * I agree caneman... Steve   Fri Aug 02 2002 02:10 PM
. * * Re: 1.0 SAB Estimate for East Coast Low Joe   Fri Aug 02 2002 02:05 PM
. * * Two Ares of Interest Jason M   Fri Aug 02 2002 11:48 AM
. * * Updated Discussion Jason M   Fri Aug 02 2002 01:26 AM
. * * Re: July Is Nearing End... Anonymous   Thu Aug 01 2002 11:46 PM
. * * Re: July Is Nearing End... Ricreig   Fri Aug 02 2002 03:11 PM
. * * Re: July Is Nearing End... Jeanine   Fri Aug 02 2002 10:37 PM
. * * Re: July Is Nearing End... Anonymous   Sat Aug 03 2002 04:10 PM
. * * the real 98L Anonymous (HF)   Sat Aug 03 2002 04:39 PM
. * * Nice Little Ciculation Greyman   Sat Aug 03 2002 05:42 PM
. * * Re: Nice Little Ciculation Joe   Sat Aug 03 2002 05:49 PM
. * * Re: Nice Little Ciculation andy1tom   Sat Aug 03 2002 08:34 PM
. * * Re: Nice Little Ciculation 57497479   Sat Aug 03 2002 10:56 PM
. * * definitely a spin Alex K   Sat Aug 03 2002 03:21 PM
. * * Hurricane? ShawnS   Sat Aug 03 2002 03:51 PM
. * * Re: definitely a spin Mike   Sat Aug 03 2002 03:42 PM
. * * Developement chances and peace. Alex k   Sat Aug 03 2002 02:21 AM
. * * Updated Tropical Weather Discussion!!! Jason M   Fri Aug 02 2002 11:38 PM
. * * Re: Updated Tropical Weather Discussion!!! 57497479   Sat Aug 03 2002 04:17 AM
. * * Matthew CFHCAdministrator   Sat Aug 03 2002 10:30 AM
. * * 2 swirls of east coast? Alex k   Fri Aug 02 2002 07:21 PM
. * * Re: 2 swirls of east coast? Joe   Fri Aug 02 2002 07:33 PM
. * * Re: 2 swirls of east coast? Ricreig   Fri Aug 02 2002 07:48 PM
. * * the axis Anonymous (HF)   Fri Aug 02 2002 08:29 PM
. * * Re: the axis Ricreig   Fri Aug 02 2002 08:37 PM
. * * Re: the axis Joe   Fri Aug 02 2002 08:56 PM
. * * Re: 2 swirls of east coast? Rasvar   Fri Aug 02 2002 07:59 PM
. * * Anonymous Cocoa Beach   Fri Aug 02 2002 05:53 PM
. * * East Coast low/wave east of Windward Islands. Kevin   Fri Aug 02 2002 03:59 PM
. * * Re: East Coast low/wave east of Windward Islands. Steve   Fri Aug 02 2002 04:38 PM
. * * Re: East Coast low/wave east of Windward Islands. Anonymous   Fri Aug 02 2002 05:02 PM
. * * Model analysis.... wxman007   Fri Aug 02 2002 05:49 PM
. * * Gulf System ShawnS   Fri Aug 02 2002 06:15 PM
. * * Re: Model analysis.... Matthew   Fri Aug 02 2002 06:07 PM
. * * Updated Buoy Information... Steve   Fri Aug 02 2002 06:18 PM
. * * I think the nhc went to hell last year Anonymous   Fri Aug 02 2002 06:43 PM
. * * Re: I think the nhc went to hell last year Ricreig   Fri Aug 02 2002 07:03 PM
. * * Re: East Coast low/wave east of Windward Islands. Anonymous(Bill)   Fri Aug 02 2002 05:46 PM
. * * The gulf and southeast system Matthew   Fri Aug 02 2002 05:45 PM
. * * 98L Anonymous (HF)   Fri Aug 02 2002 03:52 PM
. * * Re: 98L Ricreig   Fri Aug 02 2002 03:57 PM
. * * Recon Going in Tomorrow Jason M   Fri Aug 02 2002 03:49 PM
. * * Great link, Pressure is falling... Cocoa Beach   Thu Aug 01 2002 10:24 PM
. * * Re: Great link, Pressure is falling... Steve   Thu Aug 01 2002 11:23 PM
. * * Steve Anonymous   Fri Aug 02 2002 01:37 AM
. * * Who Said I Was A Real Met??? Jason M   Thu Aug 01 2002 06:52 AM
. * * Re: Who Said I Was A Real Met??? Steve   Thu Aug 01 2002 12:05 PM
. * * Updated Tropical Weather Discussion Jason M   Sun Aug 04 2002 01:25 AM
. * * Re: Updated Tropical Weather Discussion ShawnS   Sun Aug 04 2002 02:33 AM
. * * Re: Updated Tropical Weather Discussion Anonymous-doug   Sun Aug 04 2002 10:57 AM
. * * 2002 theme Anonymous (HF)   Sun Aug 04 2002 04:35 AM
. * * Re: 2002 theme Bruce   Sun Aug 04 2002 09:29 AM
. * * Re: 2002 theme Anonymous   Sun Aug 04 2002 07:59 AM
. * * Re: Who Said I Was A Real Met??? wxman007   Thu Aug 01 2002 07:24 PM
. * * uh Anonymous (HF)   Thu Aug 01 2002 07:44 PM
. * * Re: Who Said I Was A Real Met??? caneman   Thu Aug 01 2002 07:36 PM
. * * Re: Who Said I Was A Real Met??? wxman007   Fri Aug 02 2002 03:52 AM
. * * east? Anonymous (HF)   Fri Aug 02 2002 05:47 AM
. * * Re: east? Anonymous   Fri Aug 02 2002 10:27 AM
. * * That's too bad Anonymous   Fri Aug 02 2002 12:27 PM
. * * Re: That's too bad CFHCAdministrator   Fri Aug 02 2002 12:53 PM
. * * some models are saying something for the gulf system. Matthew   Fri Aug 02 2002 06:45 AM
. * * Re: Who Said I Was A Real Met??? Steve   Thu Aug 01 2002 12:28 PM
. * * Two Areas In the Short Term Anonymous   Fri Aug 02 2002 10:53 AM
. * * Re: Two Areas In the Short Term Ricreig   Fri Aug 02 2002 03:52 PM
. * * Re: Two Areas In the Short Term Bruce   Fri Aug 02 2002 11:03 AM
. * * Re: Who Said I Was A Real Met??? Jason M   Fri Aug 02 2002 01:28 AM
. * * It's NOT a slow season yet!!!! WXMAN RICHIE   Thu Aug 01 2002 01:27 PM
. * * Re: Who Said I Was A Real Met??? Caneman   Thu Aug 01 2002 01:06 PM
. * * Re: July Is Nearing End... jim w   Thu Aug 01 2002 01:41 AM
. * * august now Anonymous (HF)   Thu Aug 01 2002 05:31 AM
. * * Update on the Tropics!!! Jason M   Wed Jul 31 2002 10:34 PM
. * * Re: Update on the Tropics!!! Joe   Thu Aug 01 2002 12:22 AM
. * * Re: Update on the Tropics!!! Steve   Thu Aug 01 2002 01:07 AM
. * * Re: July Is Nearing End... Anonymous   Wed Jul 31 2002 04:20 PM
. * * El-Nono (yes, it's OFFICIAL), possible GOMEX spin-up, African wave, and what a local met said. Kevin   Wed Jul 31 2002 04:49 PM
. * * Coupla Features Anonymous   Wed Jul 31 2002 02:56 PM
. * * Re: July Is Nearing End... Anonymous   Tue Jul 30 2002 04:05 PM
. * * The Quiet Before The Storms WXMAN RICHIE   Tue Jul 30 2002 10:44 PM
. * * Re: The Quiet Before The Storms 57497479   Tue Jul 30 2002 11:26 PM
. * * Re: The Quiet Before The Storms Kevin   Wed Jul 31 2002 02:49 AM
. * * Here's an interesting excerpt from Joe B. this morning (LA & TX)... Steve   Wed Jul 31 2002 12:32 PM
. * * Re: Here's an interesting excerpt from Joe B. this morning (LA & TX)... anonymous   Wed Jul 31 2002 06:48 PM
. * * Hey Shawn Steve   Wed Jul 31 2002 08:19 PM
. * * stuff Anonymous (HF)   Wed Jul 31 2002 08:06 PM
. * * Re: July Is Nearing End... Anonymous   Tue Jul 30 2002 01:30 PM
. * * central atl Anonymous (HF)   Mon Jul 29 2002 07:36 PM
. * * Re: central atl Anonymous   Mon Jul 29 2002 08:31 PM
. * * Re: central atl MoparMitch   Mon Jul 29 2002 08:14 PM
. * * Re: central atl Steve   Mon Jul 29 2002 09:46 PM
. * * Re: central atl Anonymous (HF)   Tue Jul 30 2002 06:23 AM

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