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LoisCane
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not bashing nhc on my part.. disagreeing
      Mon Jul 26 2004 11:20 PM

its a free country and im allowed to have my own opinions

i dont think there were four systems .. maybe one besides this one but even that not sure..

this i think/feel/believe IS a subtropical and I am very into telling it like it is and being honest, even if a short lived one and i dont see how it can be justified as not ...

if you want to say you dont want to bother.. i agree with phil.. call it, issue advisories, insist it is going out to sea and not a threat.. they have done that many times, people are not stupid and i dont think boston would have to be put under a threat of tropical attack during the democratic convection because of this.. they are used to storms forming, merging, going out to sea

and agree with james in that which way its headed does have some input on their decision

just.. i like keeping it real and to the truth..
and i dont like pretending something isnt what it is when it is and i dont like on the other hand pretending something is bigger than it is because it fits someone's needs..

dont like hype .. dont like games in forecasting

i think NHC did an incredible job with floyd which was a horrible worse case scneario and honestly at any time that monster could have changed direction just enough to do untold damage to florida

i dont see how anyone in florida can complain..
i was at the beach alot taking photos and could hear that monster screaming and moaning like a tornado about to descend upon the prairie..different from almost any other hurricane "out there" i have ever heard..

maybe some people in NC could feel too much emphasis was put on Florida and not them but their local people should have known better in my opinion

one reason i love the re-evaulation of old storms that is going on because i think they correct a lot of bad calls and tho some disagree.. its one reason i am happy about Andrew being renamed a five.. think it deserved it

now..off the soap box
done ranting and what is happening in the bahamas?

bobbi
hope its not another monster out of nowhere cat five storm like that 35 storm, which i really doubt was a cat five but i have my own reasons for that and they are based on solid research historically of the period but thats for another day

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* Tropics Quiet for the Moment MikeCAdministrator Mon Jul 26 2004 11:20 PM
. * * Re: Tropics Quiet for the Moment Anonymous   Sat Jul 24 2004 04:41 PM
. * * The Little Triangle joepub1   Sat Jul 24 2004 05:24 PM
. * * Re: Tropics Quiet for the Moment Anonymous   Fri Jul 23 2004 06:22 PM
. * * Re: Tropics Quiet for the Moment Cycloneye   Thu Jul 22 2004 10:11 PM
. * * Re: Call the ball#2 summercyclone   Fri Jul 23 2004 03:28 PM
. * * Re: Call the ball#2---what DOES that MEAN Phil? bobbi   Fri Jul 23 2004 04:30 PM
. * * 98L invest for area NE of Bahamas Cycloneye   Fri Jul 23 2004 12:56 AM
. * * Re: 98L invest for area NE of Bahamas LoisCane   Fri Jul 23 2004 01:03 AM
. * * Re: Tropics Quiet for the Moment LI Phil   Thu Jul 22 2004 09:35 PM
. * * Re: Tropics Quiet for the Moment Steve   Thu Jul 22 2004 09:39 PM
. * * Re: Tropics Quiet for the Moment DustDuchess   Thu Jul 22 2004 09:52 PM
. * * nothing doing HanKFranK   Thu Jul 22 2004 10:11 PM
. * * Re: nothing doing LI Phil   Fri Jul 23 2004 01:03 AM
. * * 12/47 give or take a cord LoisCane   Fri Jul 23 2004 01:21 AM
. * * Couplea off night tidbits... Steve   Fri Jul 23 2004 03:54 AM
. * * Re: Couplea off night tidbits... DroopGB31   Fri Jul 23 2004 05:16 AM
. * * Re: Couplea off night tidbits... James88   Fri Jul 23 2004 08:39 AM
. * * 98L Rich B   Fri Jul 23 2004 12:12 PM
. * * Re: 98L rmbjoe1954   Fri Jul 23 2004 12:46 PM
. * * Re: east Atlantic wave Tropics Guy   Fri Jul 23 2004 01:42 PM
. * * Re: east Atlantic wave ticka1   Fri Jul 23 2004 02:14 PM
. * * Re: east Atlantic wave Rich B   Fri Jul 23 2004 02:40 PM
. * * Re: east Atlantic wave Tropics Guy   Fri Jul 23 2004 06:11 PM
. * * East Atlantic wave rmbjoe1954   Fri Jul 23 2004 06:21 PM
. * * Re: east Atlantic wave Steve   Fri Jul 23 2004 02:14 PM
. * * touching all the bases here bobbi   Fri Jul 23 2004 02:50 PM
. * * Re: touching all the bases here Rich B   Fri Jul 23 2004 04:33 PM
. * * Re: touching all the bases here rmbjoe1954   Fri Jul 23 2004 04:54 PM
. * * Recon LI Phil   Fri Jul 23 2004 05:03 PM
. * * Re: Recon Anonymous   Fri Jul 23 2004 05:30 PM
. * * "97L" LI Phil   Fri Jul 23 2004 06:32 PM
. * * Re: "97L" scottsvb1   Sat Jul 24 2004 04:30 PM
. * * Re: "97L" Anonymous   Fri Jul 23 2004 10:08 PM
. * * Re: "97L" Rabbit   Fri Jul 23 2004 10:11 PM
. * * Sup Troy Robert   Fri Jul 23 2004 11:41 PM
. * * Re: "97L" Old Sailor   Fri Jul 23 2004 06:38 PM
. * * 98L rmbjoe1954   Fri Jul 23 2004 08:23 PM
. * * Re: 98L troy2   Fri Jul 23 2004 09:00 PM
. * * Re: 98L Rabbit   Fri Jul 23 2004 09:12 PM
. * * Re: 98L DroopGB31   Fri Jul 23 2004 08:49 PM
. * * JB LI Phil   Fri Jul 23 2004 09:15 PM
. * * 98L: my forecast Rabbit   Fri Jul 23 2004 09:37 PM
. * * Circulations troy2   Fri Jul 23 2004 09:59 PM
. * * Re: JB Steve   Fri Jul 23 2004 09:29 PM
. * * Re: "97L" LI Phil   Fri Jul 23 2004 06:42 PM
. * * Re: "97L" Old Sailor   Sat Jul 24 2004 12:31 AM
. * * Re: "97L" Steve   Sat Jul 24 2004 01:01 AM
. * * Re: "97L" Old Sailor   Sat Jul 24 2004 01:42 AM
. * * Re: "97L" Steve   Sat Jul 24 2004 02:24 AM
. * * Re: "97L" Old Sailor   Sun Jul 25 2004 02:10 AM
. * * Old Sailor LI Phil   Sun Jul 25 2004 02:15 AM
. * * Re: Old Sailor Old Sailor   Sun Jul 25 2004 02:21 AM
. * * Mon Français n'est pas bon LI Phil   Sun Jul 25 2004 02:27 AM
. * * Re: Mon Français n'est pas bon Storm Cooper   Sun Jul 25 2004 02:39 AM
. * * Re: Mon Français n'est pas bon Old Sailor   Sun Jul 25 2004 02:34 AM
. * * Re: "98L Anonymous   Sat Jul 24 2004 02:43 AM
. * * Re: "98L Steve   Sat Jul 24 2004 02:50 AM
. * * Re: "98L HanKFranK   Sat Jul 24 2004 05:23 AM
. * * Re: "98L James88   Sat Jul 24 2004 09:04 AM
. * * Re: "98L Storm Cooper   Sat Jul 24 2004 01:24 PM
. * * Re: "98L Ed DunhamAdministrator   Sat Jul 24 2004 01:52 PM
. * * Re: "98L Cycloneye   Sat Jul 24 2004 01:55 PM
. * * Re: "98L Ed DunhamAdministrator   Sat Jul 24 2004 02:24 PM
. * * Re: "98L Steve   Sat Jul 24 2004 02:17 PM
. * * Re: "98L HanKFranK   Sat Jul 24 2004 02:29 PM
. * * Re: "98L DustDuchess   Sat Jul 24 2004 02:56 PM
. * * Re: "98L Storm Cooper   Sat Jul 24 2004 03:02 PM
. * * IWIC Forecast LI Phil   Sat Jul 24 2004 03:19 PM
. * * Re: IWIC Forecast James88   Sat Jul 24 2004 03:49 PM
. * * 98L is DOA LI Phil   Sat Jul 24 2004 04:00 PM
. * * Re: 98L is DOA James88   Sat Jul 24 2004 04:31 PM
. * * Re: "97L" Anonymous   Sat Jul 24 2004 01:21 AM
. * * Re: "97L" DustDuchess   Sat Jul 24 2004 01:44 AM
. * * grand cayman circ? Alex K   Sat Jul 24 2004 04:55 PM
. * * my thoughts Rabbit   Sat Jul 24 2004 05:33 PM
. * * Re: my thoughts ticka1   Sat Jul 24 2004 05:48 PM
. * * Re: my thoughts DustDuchess   Sat Jul 24 2004 06:24 PM
. * * Re: my thoughts Anonymous   Sat Jul 24 2004 06:49 PM
. * * Re: my thoughts DroopGB31   Sat Jul 24 2004 06:59 PM
. * * Re: my thoughts DroopGB31   Sat Jul 24 2004 07:55 PM
. * * Whoa GFS Kevin   Sat Jul 24 2004 06:24 PM
. * * Re: Whoa GFS Cycloneye   Sat Jul 24 2004 08:00 PM
. * * the models Rabbit   Sat Jul 24 2004 08:09 PM
. * * avn LoisCane   Sun Jul 25 2004 03:48 AM
. * * SAL....ALex LoisCane   Sun Jul 25 2004 04:26 AM
. * * 7/25/04 James88   Sun Jul 25 2004 11:13 AM
. * * Re: 7/25/04 Rich B   Sun Jul 25 2004 01:28 PM
. * * Re: 7/25/04 James88   Sun Jul 25 2004 04:42 PM
. * * Re: 7/25/04 Steve   Sun Jul 25 2004 05:44 PM
. * * Re: 7/25/04 Ed DunhamAdministrator   Sun Jul 25 2004 10:17 PM
. * * Re: 7/25/04 Old Sailor   Mon Jul 26 2004 03:51 AM
. * * The Gulf James88   Mon Jul 26 2004 07:57 AM
. * * Re: The Gulf Old Sailor   Mon Jul 26 2004 11:25 AM
. * * for Old Sailor...: The Gulf bobbi   Mon Jul 26 2004 01:05 PM
. * * Re: for Old Sailor...: The Gulf Old Sailor   Mon Jul 26 2004 02:31 PM
. * * Re: for Old Sailor...: The Gulf Steve   Mon Jul 26 2004 02:47 PM
. * * for steve bobbi   Mon Jul 26 2004 02:52 PM
. * * Re: for steve Steve   Mon Jul 26 2004 03:04 PM
. * * Re: for steve............ bobbi   Mon Jul 26 2004 03:13 PM
. * * Will 98L be classified? Jamiewx   Mon Jul 26 2004 02:42 PM
. * * Re: Will 98L be classified? and whats with ULL/wave? bobbi   Mon Jul 26 2004 02:47 PM
. * * Re: Will 98L be classified? Anonymous   Mon Jul 26 2004 02:45 PM
. * * Re: Will 98L be classified? Cocoa Beach   Mon Jul 26 2004 02:52 PM
. * * Re: Will 98L be classified? Anonymous   Mon Jul 26 2004 02:54 PM
. * * Re: Will 98L be classified? James88   Mon Jul 26 2004 03:00 PM
. * * Re: Will 98L be classified? Rabbit   Mon Jul 26 2004 03:01 PM
. * * Re: Will 98L be classified? Rabbit   Mon Jul 26 2004 02:59 PM
. * * Re: Will 98L be classified? James88   Mon Jul 26 2004 03:07 PM
. * * Re: Will 98L be classified? Rabbit   Mon Jul 26 2004 03:09 PM
. * * Re: Will 98L be classified? James88   Mon Jul 26 2004 03:13 PM
. * * Re: Will 98L be classified? Rabbit   Mon Jul 26 2004 03:16 PM
. * * 11:30 TWO says it all LI Phil   Mon Jul 26 2004 03:25 PM
. * * No development now Jamiewx   Mon Jul 26 2004 03:24 PM
. * * okay...... bobbi   Mon Jul 26 2004 03:48 PM
. * * Bashing the NHC LI Phil   Mon Jul 26 2004 04:01 PM
. * * Re: Bashing the NHC Old Sailor   Mon Jul 26 2004 04:37 PM
. * * Re: Bashing the NHC doug   Mon Jul 26 2004 04:46 PM
. * * Why we are here rmbjoe1954   Mon Jul 26 2004 04:55 PM
. * * looked at the loop, thanks for posting it bobbi   Mon Jul 26 2004 05:17 PM
. * * NHC DroopGB31   Mon Jul 26 2004 05:53 PM
. * * Re: lets discard the rating system doug   Mon Jul 26 2004 05:02 PM
. * * Re: convection east of Bahamas..... Tropics Guy   Mon Jul 26 2004 05:09 PM
. * * That glob north of the Windwards/PR/VI rmbjoe1954   Mon Jul 26 2004 05:07 PM
. * * Re: Bashing the NHC LI Phil   Mon Jul 26 2004 04:42 PM
. * * Re: Bashing the NHC Cocoa Beach   Mon Jul 26 2004 08:03 PM
. * * Re: Bashing the NHC LI Phil   Mon Jul 26 2004 08:31 PM
. * * Re: Bashing the NHC James88   Mon Jul 26 2004 08:39 PM
. * * Re: Bashing the NHC BillD   Mon Jul 26 2004 11:53 PM
. * * Re: Bashing the NHC Ed DunhamAdministrator   Tue Jul 27 2004 01:56 AM
. * * Re: Bashing the NHC joepub1   Tue Jul 27 2004 05:10 AM
. * * Bahamas? James88   Tue Jul 27 2004 12:41 PM
. * * Re: Bahamas? rmbjoe1954   Tue Jul 27 2004 01:15 PM
. * * Re: Bahamas? Steve   Tue Jul 27 2004 02:16 PM
. * * Steve/and Bahamas LoisCane   Tue Jul 27 2004 03:12 PM
. * * Bahamas/Florida Rains rmbjoe1954   Tue Jul 27 2004 03:38 PM
. * * Awaiting the rain LI Phil   Tue Jul 27 2004 04:49 PM
. * * Re: Awaiting the rain Rich B   Tue Jul 27 2004 05:27 PM
. * * Tropics quiet for the moment Cycloneye   Tue Jul 27 2004 07:50 PM
. * * ok..cyclone..educate me a bit here please bobbi   Tue Jul 27 2004 08:01 PM
. * * Re: ok..cyclone..educate me a bit here please Steve   Tue Jul 27 2004 08:21 PM
. * * Re: ok..cyclone..educate me a bit here please rmbjoe1954   Tue Jul 27 2004 08:24 PM
. * * Re: ok..cyclone..educate me a bit here please Steve   Tue Jul 27 2004 08:44 PM
. * * thanks for the dust info... miami wxr @5 bobbi   Tue Jul 27 2004 09:27 PM
. * * Re: thanks for the dust info... miami wxr @5 Steve   Tue Jul 27 2004 11:27 PM
. * * thank u, im soooooooooooooo bored bobbi   Tue Jul 27 2004 11:35 PM
. * * Saharan Dust Aloft rmbjoe1954   Tue Jul 27 2004 08:09 PM
. * * Worth Watching rmbjoe1954   Tue Jul 27 2004 08:00 PM
. * * Re: Worth Watching Hurric   Tue Jul 27 2004 09:18 PM
. * * Re: Worth Watching Rich B   Tue Jul 27 2004 09:40 PM
. * * disc 27july/some offtopic at ed's mercy HanKFranK   Tue Jul 27 2004 11:47 PM
. * * Re: Worth Watching Anonymous   Tue Jul 27 2004 11:36 PM
. * * Tuesday E'en thoughts... LI Phil   Tue Jul 27 2004 11:55 PM
. * * Re: Tuesday E'en thoughts... bobbi   Wed Jul 28 2004 01:30 AM
. * * Re: Worth Watching Justin in Miami   Tue Jul 27 2004 11:54 PM
. * * hey there.. oh and ps bobbi   Tue Jul 27 2004 09:31 PM
. * * Re: Bahamas? Rich B   Tue Jul 27 2004 02:32 PM
. * * Re: Bahamas? Tropics Guy   Tue Jul 27 2004 02:14 PM
. * * Re: Bashing the NHC LI Phil   Tue Jul 27 2004 02:14 AM
. * * Re: It's looking wet Anonymous   Tue Jul 27 2004 03:09 AM
. * * Re: It's looking wet javlin   Tue Jul 27 2004 03:14 AM
. * * Re: It's looking wet Steve   Tue Jul 27 2004 03:28 AM
. * * Re: Bashing the NHC DroopGB31   Tue Jul 27 2004 03:02 AM
. * * Starting over LoisCane   Tue Jul 27 2004 03:41 AM
. * * Re: Bashing the NHC Old Sailor   Tue Jul 27 2004 02:11 AM
. * * hi Bill LoisCane   Tue Jul 27 2004 12:04 AM
. * * not bashing nhc on my part.. disagreeing LoisCane   Mon Jul 26 2004 11:20 PM
. * * Re: not bashing nhc on my part.. disagreeing LI Phil   Tue Jul 27 2004 01:27 AM
. * * For Bastardi Fans and netwaves.net (Panama City Beach)... Anonymous   Tue Jul 27 2004 01:46 AM
. * * The fault lies not within the stars... LI Phil   Mon Jul 26 2004 03:34 PM
. * * Re: The fault lies not within the stars... Anonymous   Mon Jul 26 2004 06:25 PM
. * * Re: The fault lies not within the stars... Steve   Mon Jul 26 2004 07:44 PM
. * * Re: The fault lies not within the stars... bobbi   Mon Jul 26 2004 07:57 PM
. * * Re: The fault lies not within the stars... Steve   Mon Jul 26 2004 08:00 PM
. * * Re: The fault lies not within the stars... Old Sailor   Mon Jul 26 2004 08:42 PM
. * * Re: FLORIDA RAIN LONNY307   Mon Jul 26 2004 09:19 PM
. * * Re: FLORIDA RAIN Old Sailor   Mon Jul 26 2004 09:42 PM
. * * trouble with the nhc HanKFranK   Mon Jul 26 2004 10:25 PM
. * * Re: The fault lies not within the stars... James88   Mon Jul 26 2004 03:41 PM
. * * unclassified systems Rabbit   Mon Jul 26 2004 03:48 PM
. * * Re: unclassified systems Tropics Guy   Mon Jul 26 2004 04:36 PM
. * * Re: unclassified systems Rich B   Mon Jul 26 2004 04:09 PM
. * * Re: unclassified systems Steve   Mon Jul 26 2004 05:05 PM
. * * Re: The fault lies not within the stars... Rabbit   Mon Jul 26 2004 03:40 PM
. * * Re: Will 98L be classified? Rabbit   Mon Jul 26 2004 03:11 PM
. * * Tropical development for 98L unlikely Cycloneye   Mon Jul 26 2004 03:27 PM
. * * Action in the tropics - south of Long Island! James88   Mon Jul 26 2004 09:13 AM
. * * Is Phil getting his wish? LoisCane   Mon Jul 26 2004 11:23 AM
. * * Re: Is Phil getting his wish? James88   Mon Jul 26 2004 11:27 AM
. * * Re: Is Phil getting his wish? LI Phil   Mon Jul 26 2004 02:23 PM
. * * Re: Is Phil getting his wish? James88   Mon Jul 26 2004 02:29 PM
. * * a Yankee view bobbi   Mon Jul 26 2004 02:26 PM
. * * Will 98L be the first TD of the season? Cycloneye   Mon Jul 26 2004 12:51 PM
. * * Re: Will 98L be the first TD of the season? James88   Mon Jul 26 2004 01:44 PM
. * * Re: Will 98L be the first TD of the season? Rich B   Mon Jul 26 2004 01:50 PM
. * * Re: Action in the tropics - south of Long Island! Old Sailor   Mon Jul 26 2004 11:14 AM
. * * Re: Action in the tropics - south of Long Island! Anonymous   Mon Jul 26 2004 03:31 PM
. * * Re: 7/25/04 HanKFranK   Sun Jul 25 2004 06:35 PM
. * * Re: 7/25/04 James88   Sun Jul 25 2004 08:08 PM
. * * Re: 7/25/04 LoisCane   Sun Jul 25 2004 11:23 PM
. * * Re: 7/25/04 danielwAdministrator   Mon Jul 26 2004 01:50 AM
. * * BOC? LoisCane   Mon Jul 26 2004 11:27 AM
. * * Re: 7/25/04 danielwAdministrator   Sun Jul 25 2004 08:31 PM
. * * Re: 7/25/04 James88   Sun Jul 25 2004 08:54 PM
. * * el nino LoisCane   Sun Jul 25 2004 08:06 PM
. * * okay steve... so you dont like the atlantic wave LoisCane   Sun Jul 25 2004 06:30 PM
. * * Re: okay steve... so you dont like the atlantic wave Justin in Miami   Sun Jul 25 2004 10:20 PM
. * * Re: 7/25/04 James88   Sun Jul 25 2004 01:35 PM
. * * Re: 7/25/04 Steve   Sun Jul 25 2004 02:09 PM
. * * Re: 7/25/04 Rich B   Sun Jul 25 2004 02:12 PM
. * * Hedging our bets are we? LoisCane   Sun Jul 25 2004 03:04 PM
. * * Re: Hedging our bets are we? Rich B   Sun Jul 25 2004 03:27 PM
. * * Re: 7/25/04 James88   Sun Jul 25 2004 02:50 PM
. * * Bets Anyone? Cocoa Beach   Sun Jul 25 2004 01:19 PM
. * * quick note Rabbit   Sat Jul 24 2004 08:55 PM
. * * Afternoon LI Phil   Sat Jul 24 2004 09:37 PM
. * * on hold HanKFranK   Sat Jul 24 2004 11:10 PM
. * * Hungry For Tacos? LI Phil   Sat Jul 24 2004 11:38 PM
. * * Re: atlantic wave Tropics Guy   Sun Jul 25 2004 01:53 AM
. * * Re: atlantic wave LoisCane   Sun Jul 25 2004 03:59 PM
. * * Updated discussion... Kevin   Sun Jul 25 2004 04:12 PM
. * * TG - You want some tacos? LI Phil   Sun Jul 25 2004 02:00 AM
. * * not a lot to look at huh? LoisCane   Sun Jul 25 2004 01:49 AM
. * * Re: "97L" Tropics Guy   Sat Jul 24 2004 02:16 AM
. * * Re: touching all the bases here Ed in Va   Fri Jul 23 2004 02:56 PM
. * * Re: touching all the bases here Ed in Va   Fri Jul 23 2004 02:58 PM
. * * Welcome aboard Ed LI Phil   Fri Jul 23 2004 03:08 PM

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