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James88
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Tropical Depression One
      Sat Jul 31 2004 04:38 PM

Here's the first discussion:-

** WTNT41 KNHC 312031 ***
TCDAT1
TROPICAL DEPRESSION ONE DISCUSSION NUMBER 1
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
5 PM EDT SAT JUL 31 2004

THE LOW PRESSURE AREA OFF THE NORTHEAST FLORIDA COAST HAS SHOWN
INCREASING CONVECTIVE ORGANIZATION THIS AFTERNOON...WITH SATELLITE
INTENSITY ESTIMATES OF 30 KT FROM TAFB AND 25 KT FROM SAB. THUS...
ADVISORIES ARE BEING INITIATED ON THE SYSTEM AS TROPICAL DEPRESSION
ONE WITH 25 KT WINDS. WHILE THE DEPRESSION HAS A LARGE CYCLONIC
ENVELOPE...THE CENTER WAS VERY POORLY DEFINED ON THE RECONNAISSANCE
FLIGHT THIS MORNING...AND IT WOULD NOT BE A SURPRISE IF THE FLIGHT
SCHEDULED FOR 0000Z FINDS THE SAME.

THE INITIAL MOTION IS A SOMEWHAT UNCERTAIN 315/8. THE DEPRESSION IS
CURRENTLY BEING STEERED BY THE WESTERN END OF THE SUBTROPICAL
RIDGE...WHILE WATER VAPOR IMAGERY AND LARGE-SCALE MODELS SHOW
DEEP-LAYER TROUGHING OVER THE CENTRAL UNITED STATES MOVING EASTWARD.
ALL GUIDANCE SHOWS THE CYCLONE RECURVING NORTHEASTWARD AHEAD OF THE
TROUGH...WITH THE BIGGEST DIFFERENCES IN THE GUIDANCE BEING HOW
FAST IT MOVES AFTER RECURVATURE. THE OFFICIAL FORECAST TRACK WILL
CALL FOR THE SYSTEM TO TURN NORTHWARD AT ABOUT 24 HR AND
NORTHEASTWARD AFTER 36 HR...BRUSHING THE SOUTHEASTERN U.S. COAST.
WHILE THE OFFICIAL TRACK CALLS FOR LANDFALL IN NORTH CAROLINA...
SEVERAL MODELS RECURVE THE CYCLONE SHARPLY ENOUGH TO KEEP THE
CENTER OFFSHORE.

THIS LARGE AND POORLY DEFINED SYSTEM WILL LIKELY TAKE TIME TO
CONSOLIDATE EVEN THOUGH CONDITIONS GENERALLY APPEAR FAVORABLE FOR
INTENSIFICATION. THE INTENSITY FORECAST THUS CALLS FOR SLOW
STRENGTHENING UNTIL THE SYSTEM REACHES THE COAST. WHAT
INTENSIFICATION MAY OCCUR AFTER THE CYCLONE CLEARS THE U.S. EAST
COAST IS QUESTIONABLE...AS THE LARGE SCALE MODELS DISAGREE ON
WHETHER IT WILL DISSIPATE OR STRENGTHEN DURING INTERACTION WITH THE
WESTERLIES. FOR NOW...THE INTENSITY FORECAST WILL COMPROMISE
BETWEEN THE TWO EXTREMES AND KEEP A STEADY 40 KT UNTIL
EXTRATROPICAL TRANSITION.

THE PROXIMITY TO THE COAST REQUIRES A TROPICAL STORM WATCH TO BE
ISSUED FOR PORTIONS OF THE COASTS OF NORTH AND SOUTH CAROLINA AT
THIS TIME. A TROPICAL STORM WARNING MAY BE REQUIRED IN A LATER
ADVISORY.

FORECASTER BEVEN


FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS

INITIAL 31/2100Z 30.6N 78.6W 25 KT
12HR VT 01/0600Z 31.5N 79.3W 30 KT
24HR VT 01/1800Z 32.9N 79.2W 35 KT
36HR VT 02/0600Z 34.0N 78.0W 40 KT...INLAND
48HR VT 02/1800Z 35.2N 76.6W 40 KT...INLAND
72HR VT 03/1800Z 37.5N 73.5W 40 KT...OVER WATER
96HR VT 04/1800Z 40.0N 69.0W 40 KT
120HR VT 05/1800Z 46.0N 57.5W 40 KT...EXTRATROPICAL


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Sounds like Alex is on his way.

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* Tropical Tremors Ed DunhamAdministrator Sat Jul 31 2004 04:38 PM
. * * Re: Tropical Tremors javlin   Sat Jul 31 2004 05:19 PM
. * * 7/31 LI Phil   Sat Jul 31 2004 01:05 PM
. * * Re: 7/31 Mike   Sat Jul 31 2004 06:19 PM
. * * Re: 7/31 LI Phil   Sat Jul 31 2004 06:20 PM
. * * Re: 7/31 James88   Sat Jul 31 2004 06:27 PM
. * * Re: 7/31 Steve Hirschb.   Sat Jul 31 2004 01:23 PM
. * * 7/31, ed's called shot HanKFranK   Sat Jul 31 2004 01:44 PM
. * * Re: 7/31, ed's called shot James88   Sat Jul 31 2004 02:22 PM
. * * Re: 7/31, ed's called shot GaryC   Sat Jul 31 2004 02:50 PM
. * * RRecon Anonymous   Sat Jul 31 2004 03:04 PM
. * * Re: RRecon Old Sailor   Sat Jul 31 2004 03:29 PM
. * * Re: 7/31, ed's called shot GaryC   Sat Jul 31 2004 02:57 PM
. * * Re: 7/31, ed's called shot DustDuchess   Sat Jul 31 2004 03:05 PM
. * * 17:45 Dvorak #s LI Phil   Sat Jul 31 2004 03:29 PM
. * * Melbourne Radar LI Phil   Sat Jul 31 2004 03:35 PM
. * * TD1 OFFICIAL Rob_M   Sat Jul 31 2004 03:46 PM
. * * Re: TD1 OFFICIAL LI Phil   Sat Jul 31 2004 03:48 PM
. * * Re: TD1 OFFICIAL Rob_M   Sat Jul 31 2004 03:51 PM
. * * Champagne TOAST! LI Phil   Sat Jul 31 2004 03:55 PM
. * * Just 7 hours away... Cocoa Beach   Sat Jul 31 2004 06:44 PM
. * * Re: Champagne TOAST! James88   Sat Jul 31 2004 03:57 PM
. * * Re: Champagne TOAST! GaryC   Sat Jul 31 2004 04:01 PM
. * * Re: Champagne TOAST! Rabbit   Sat Jul 31 2004 04:21 PM
. * * Re: Champagne TOAST! Anonymous   Sat Jul 31 2004 04:35 PM
. * * Tropical Depression One James88   Sat Jul 31 2004 04:38 PM
. * * Re: Tropical Depression One Anonymous   Sat Jul 31 2004 04:40 PM
. * * Re: Tropical Depression One Anonymous   Sat Jul 31 2004 04:41 PM
. * * Re: Tropical Depression One GaryC   Sat Jul 31 2004 04:46 PM
. * * Re: Tropical Depression One GaryC   Sat Jul 31 2004 04:49 PM
. * * Re: Tropical Depression One hurricane_run   Sat Jul 31 2004 04:54 PM
. * * Alex LI Phil   Sat Jul 31 2004 04:56 PM
. * * Re: Alex Cycloneye   Sat Jul 31 2004 05:14 PM
. * * Re: Alex James88   Sat Jul 31 2004 05:16 PM
. * * Champagne LI Phil   Sat Jul 31 2004 05:21 PM
. * * Re: Champagne Rainband   Sat Jul 31 2004 05:34 PM
. * * Re: Champagne James88   Sat Jul 31 2004 05:32 PM
. * * Re: Champagne SirCane   Sat Jul 31 2004 06:26 PM
. * * Re: Champagne LI Phil   Sat Jul 31 2004 06:35 PM
. * * Re: Alex James88   Sat Jul 31 2004 05:00 PM
. * * Re: Alex Anonymous   Sat Jul 31 2004 05:34 PM
. * * Re: Tropical Depression One ticka1   Sat Jul 31 2004 04:56 PM
. * * Re: Tropical Depression One Anonymous   Sat Jul 31 2004 04:46 PM
. * * Zulu Time LI Phil   Sat Jul 31 2004 03:02 PM
. * * Re: Zulu Time WXMAN RICHIE   Sat Jul 31 2004 07:00 PM
. * * Re: Zulu Time hurricane_run   Sat Jul 31 2004 07:18 PM
. * * Re: Zulu Time-MY TOTALLY BAD LI Phil   Sat Jul 31 2004 07:22 PM
. * * Re: Zulu Time-MY TOTALLY BAD DustDuchess   Sat Jul 31 2004 07:27 PM
. * * TD1 not looking very good BillD   Sat Jul 31 2004 07:56 PM
. * * Re: Looks stationary javlin   Sat Jul 31 2004 07:54 PM
. * * NEW THREAD LI Phil   Sat Jul 31 2004 07:55 PM
. * * 8pm advisory hurricane_run   Sat Jul 31 2004 07:52 PM
. * * Re: 8pm advisory hurricane_run   Sat Jul 31 2004 07:54 PM
. * * Re: Zulu Time LI Phil   Sat Jul 31 2004 07:06 PM
. * * Re: Tropical Tremors caneman   Sat Jul 31 2004 11:07 AM
. * * Re: Tropical Tremors LI Phil   Sat Jul 31 2004 12:21 PM
. * * Re: Tropical Tremors Cycloneye   Sat Jul 31 2004 12:26 PM
. * * Quikscat on 99L LI Phil   Sat Jul 31 2004 12:30 PM
. * * First Storm PFSThunder   Sat Jul 31 2004 12:32 PM
. * * Re: First Storm joepub1   Sat Jul 31 2004 12:41 PM
. * * Re: First Storm Anonymous   Sat Jul 31 2004 12:50 PM

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