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Unseasonably stout wave in Caribbean bringing enhanced showers and tstorms for several days, but lacks model support for development 5/26
Days since last H. Landfall - US: Any 276 (Idalia) , Major: 276 (Idalia) Florida - Any: 276 (Idalia) Major: 276 (Idalia)
 


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      Fri Aug 06 2004 11:03 PM

got a date in a few so gotta make this short. easier said than done.
i'll preface my comments by saying that i went and made my observations, read through the main board posts, and realized that steve-o has already noticed most everything i did. a number of folks on the board today have been decrying shear and declaring that nothing can or will form. makes me wonder if anybody reads into the TWO.
first off 91L/td2. if you look at the forecast evolution for the upper air pattern nearby, you notice that it is forecast to be positioned in an outflow enhancing region after it negotiates the currently segmenting TUTT. steve has already explained the reasoning behind it's development potential.. and the nhc continues to keep recon on standby for a potential invest... obviously they see the potential as well. visibles today reveal that the lower level structure of the wave is still fairly sharp.. put this thing into a good environment and it has every chance of redeveloping.
similar comments for 92L. steve has already explained how the deep layer ridge should flatten and out and block its northward component.. if the low associated with the disturbance doesn't cross the axis prior to its reorientation. there is a small surface low embedded in the wave near 20/50, which is moving slowly nw in a sheared environment. much like 91L this system's nearby upper environment is currently unfavorable but forecast to become better over the weekend. and to be honest, it doesn't look much worse today. spotty convection and weak surface low.. essentially unchanged.
that low that was forecast by globals to form at low latitude along the wave trailing 92L does indeed appear to be forming. low latitude however, an elongated e-w. globals have backed off so until it gains some amplitude or independence from the itcz it poses little development threat.
ed d in va dropped the wakefield discussion and brought up a potential system down the road.. nontropical gulf origin. the low may be a result of some interaction with the former td2/91L wave.. it may be reading an entrainment of some of tropical energy. not too believable evolution at this point.. will have to see how globals continue handling it.
waves are taking their sweet time, but they haven't gone away either. i'm still agitating for their potential because it is real.
HF 2300z06august

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* Alex Strengthens while TD#2 Finally Falls Apart MikeCAdministrator Fri Aug 06 2004 11:03 PM
. * * Good weekend to do yardwork?? cyclone_head   Sat Aug 07 2004 12:10 PM
. * * Administrative Post - Clarifications Ed DunhamAdministrator   Fri Aug 06 2004 02:26 AM
. * * Re: Administrative Post - Clarifications rickonboat   Fri Aug 06 2004 12:42 PM
. * * Clarifications-well put Rick bobbi   Fri Aug 06 2004 01:23 PM
. * * Re: Clarifications-well put Rick cyclone_head   Fri Aug 06 2004 02:50 PM
. * * Re: Clarifications-well put Rick Anonymous   Fri Aug 06 2004 03:00 PM
. * * model runs bobbi   Fri Aug 06 2004 03:21 PM
. * * Re: model runs Hardcore   Fri Aug 06 2004 03:27 PM
. * * Re: Clarifications-well put Rick andy1tom   Fri Aug 06 2004 01:34 PM
. * * still looking for Storm 2 K Anonymous   Fri Aug 06 2004 01:51 PM
. * * Re: still looking for Storm 2 K Steve   Fri Aug 06 2004 02:03 PM
. * * My $.02 LI Phil   Fri Aug 06 2004 02:32 PM
. * * Re: My $.02 James88   Fri Aug 06 2004 02:41 PM
. * * "Now Lets Talk About the Weather" Bobbi   Fri Aug 06 2004 02:37 PM
. * * oh my gosh.. look bobbi   Fri Aug 06 2004 02:40 PM
. * * Re: oh my gosh.. look summercyclone   Fri Aug 06 2004 03:32 PM
. * * locating lows bobbi   Fri Aug 06 2004 03:51 PM
. * * Re: locating lows Anonymous   Fri Aug 06 2004 04:25 PM
. * * Re: locating lows Steve   Fri Aug 06 2004 04:35 PM
. * * Re: locating lows summercyclone   Fri Aug 06 2004 08:51 PM
. * * Re: locating lows Ed in Va   Fri Aug 06 2004 08:54 PM
. * * Re: Subtropical Low? summercyclone   Fri Aug 06 2004 08:59 PM
. * * Re: Subtropical Low? Anonymous   Sat Aug 07 2004 12:25 AM
. * * Re: Subtropical Low? LI Phil   Fri Aug 06 2004 09:01 PM
. * * Re: Subtropical Low? summercyclone   Fri Aug 06 2004 09:04 PM
. * * Re: Subtropical Low? Anonymous   Fri Aug 06 2004 09:09 PM
. * * IWIC 5:00 Forecast LI Phil   Fri Aug 06 2004 09:32 PM
. * * Re: IWIC 5:00 Forecast LoisCane   Fri Aug 06 2004 10:21 PM
. * * shorter/pointed HanKFranK   Fri Aug 06 2004 11:03 PM
. * * Clarifying the Clarification Ed DunhamAdministrator   Sat Aug 07 2004 12:41 AM
. * * Re: Clarifying the Clarification Steve Hirscshb.   Sat Aug 07 2004 01:12 AM
. * * Thanks ED LI Phil   Sat Aug 07 2004 01:22 AM
. * * Re: Thanks ED GuppieGrouper   Sat Aug 07 2004 02:12 AM
. * * Re: Thanks ED BillD   Sat Aug 07 2004 02:41 AM
. * * Re: Off east coast Anonymous   Fri Aug 06 2004 09:48 PM
. * * Re: XTD2 future doug   Fri Aug 06 2004 05:08 PM
. * * Re: XTD2 future Steve   Fri Aug 06 2004 05:28 PM
. * * Re: XTD2 future summercyclone   Fri Aug 06 2004 06:23 PM
. * * Re: XTD2 future javlin   Fri Aug 06 2004 06:49 PM
. * * Re: XTD2 future Anonymous   Fri Aug 06 2004 06:53 PM
. * * Re: XTD2 future Anonymous   Fri Aug 06 2004 07:08 PM
. * * Re: XTD2 future Anonymous   Fri Aug 06 2004 07:24 PM
. * * Dead Friday... LI Phil   Fri Aug 06 2004 08:04 PM
. * * Re: Dead Friday... Old Sailor   Sat Aug 07 2004 03:21 AM
. * * resurrection saturday? HanKFranK   Sat Aug 07 2004 05:58 AM
. * * Re: resurrection saturday? Old Sailor   Sat Aug 07 2004 09:44 AM
. * * Re: resurrection saturday? javlin   Sat Aug 07 2004 12:12 PM
. * * Re: EX TD2 & 92L Tropics Guy   Sat Aug 07 2004 12:34 PM
. * * Re: EX TD2 & 92L Storm Cooper   Sat Aug 07 2004 01:10 PM
. * * Re: EX TD2 & 92L doug   Sat Aug 07 2004 01:40 PM
. * * Re: EX TD2 & 92L Storm Cooper   Sat Aug 07 2004 02:09 PM
. * * Sattiday mornin' JB LI Phil   Sat Aug 07 2004 03:33 PM
. * * Re: Dead Friday... summercyclone   Fri Aug 06 2004 08:54 PM
. * * Re: Dead Friday... LI Phil   Fri Aug 06 2004 09:00 PM
. * * Re: Dead Friday... bobbi   Fri Aug 06 2004 08:32 PM
. * * Re: South of Jamaica teal61   Fri Aug 06 2004 08:00 PM
. * * Re: South of Jamaica Steve Hirschb.   Fri Aug 06 2004 08:11 PM
. * * Re: South of Jamaica summercyclone   Fri Aug 06 2004 08:56 PM
. * * Re: South of Jamaica teal61   Fri Aug 06 2004 08:43 PM
. * * Re: XTD2 future Anonymous   Fri Aug 06 2004 07:57 PM
. * * Re: XTD2 future javlin   Fri Aug 06 2004 07:07 PM
. * * Re: 92L & shear Tropics Guy   Fri Aug 06 2004 05:51 PM
. * * Re: 92L & shear bobbi   Fri Aug 06 2004 06:00 PM
. * * Re: locating lows/steve's post bobbi   Fri Aug 06 2004 04:45 PM
. * * Re: Dr Gs forecast summercyclone   Fri Aug 06 2004 04:31 PM
. * * Re: El Nino Tropics Guy   Fri Aug 06 2004 02:23 PM
. * * Re: Administrative Post - Clarifications Steve hirschb.   Fri Aug 06 2004 01:19 PM
. * * Storm 2K Anonymous   Fri Aug 06 2004 12:53 PM
. * * Possible Rotation Cocoa Beach   Thu Aug 05 2004 04:34 PM
. * * Re: Possible Rotation Steve hirsch.   Thu Aug 05 2004 04:53 PM
. * * Surprises in the basin bobbi   Thu Aug 05 2004 05:16 PM
. * * Re: Surprises in the basin summercyclone   Thu Aug 05 2004 07:09 PM
. * * okay..calm down.. bobbi   Thu Aug 05 2004 07:19 PM
. * * Re: okay..calm down.. clarification bobbi   Thu Aug 05 2004 07:22 PM
. * * Re: okay..calm down.. clarification Rabbit   Thu Aug 05 2004 07:28 PM
. * * Re: okay..calm down.. clarification Hardcore   Thu Aug 05 2004 07:33 PM
. * * the unclassified Rabbit   Thu Aug 05 2004 07:51 PM
. * * Re: the unclassified ClarkE   Thu Aug 05 2004 10:39 PM
. * * to all the El Niño speculators... Rabbit   Thu Aug 05 2004 08:11 PM
. * * Re: to all the El Niño speculators... Anonymous   Thu Aug 05 2004 08:26 PM
. * * Re: to all the El Niño speculators... Steve   Thu Aug 05 2004 08:47 PM
. * * Re: to all the El Niño speculators... doug   Thu Aug 05 2004 08:55 PM
. * * Re: to all the El Niño speculators... PFSThunder   Thu Aug 05 2004 09:07 PM
. * * 91L Rabbit   Thu Aug 05 2004 09:11 PM
. * * Re: 91L summercyclone   Fri Aug 06 2004 03:11 PM
. * * Re: 91L Anonymous   Thu Aug 05 2004 10:16 PM
. * * Re: 91L jlauderdal   Thu Aug 05 2004 10:57 PM
. * * 92L BugsBunny   Thu Aug 05 2004 10:26 PM
. * * Re: 91L Steve hirschb.   Thu Aug 05 2004 09:20 PM
. * * Re: 91L BugsBunny   Thu Aug 05 2004 09:27 PM
. * * Re: 91L danielwAdministrator   Thu Aug 05 2004 11:22 PM
. * * responses HanKFranK   Fri Aug 06 2004 12:27 AM
. * * Re: 91L danielwAdministrator   Fri Aug 06 2004 12:11 AM
. * * Re: 91L Anonymous   Fri Aug 06 2004 12:20 AM
. * * Re: 91L danielwAdministrator   Fri Aug 06 2004 01:08 AM
. * * Re: 91L javlin   Fri Aug 06 2004 02:46 AM
. * * thoughts for the day LoisCane   Fri Aug 06 2004 03:16 AM
. * * Re: 91L BillD   Fri Aug 06 2004 12:32 AM
. * * Re: 91L Anonymous   Fri Aug 06 2004 12:53 AM
. * * Re: 91L LI Phil   Fri Aug 06 2004 12:40 AM
. * * Re: 91L LoisCane   Fri Aug 06 2004 03:37 AM
. * * Re: Carib. Update danielwAdministrator   Fri Aug 06 2004 05:52 AM
. * * Re: 06Z Tropics Shot danielwAdministrator   Fri Aug 06 2004 06:55 AM
. * * Alex heading for the UK? Rich B   Fri Aug 06 2004 10:21 AM
. * * There is a brief low in atlantic activity Cycloneye   Fri Aug 06 2004 10:24 AM
. * * Re: There is a brief low in atlantic activity Steve hirschb.   Fri Aug 06 2004 11:41 AM
. * * Re: There is a brief low in atlantic activity ticka1   Fri Aug 06 2004 01:07 PM
. * * Another area to watch? WXMAN RICHIE   Thu Aug 05 2004 11:36 PM
. * * Re: Another area to watch? summercyclone   Fri Aug 06 2004 03:14 PM
. * * Re: Another area to watch? andy1tom   Fri Aug 06 2004 04:55 PM
. * * Re: Another area to watch? Storm Cooper   Fri Aug 06 2004 06:09 PM
. * * Re: Alex's sister? summercyclone   Fri Aug 06 2004 06:16 PM
. * * Re: Alex's sister? summercyclone   Fri Aug 06 2004 08:49 PM
. * * Re: Alex's sister? LoisCane   Sun Aug 08 2004 04:49 AM
. * * Re: Alex's sister? caneman   Fri Aug 06 2004 07:06 PM
. * * Re: Another area to watch? Hardcore   Fri Aug 06 2004 05:24 PM
. * * Done LI Phil   Thu Aug 05 2004 09:53 PM
. * * Re: 91L Anonymous   Thu Aug 05 2004 09:18 PM
. * * Re: 91L ErinAndOpal95   Thu Aug 05 2004 09:17 PM
. * * Re: 92L summercyclone   Thu Aug 05 2004 09:03 PM
. * * el nino shmino rickonboat   Thu Aug 05 2004 08:24 PM
. * * Re: okay..calm down.. clarification Robert   Thu Aug 05 2004 07:50 PM
. * * Re: Surprises in the basin Rabbit   Thu Aug 05 2004 05:31 PM
. * * giggling, rofl.. sorry rabbiT bobbi   Thu Aug 05 2004 06:54 PM
. * * ps..question regarding outflow boundaries and inflow bobbi   Thu Aug 05 2004 06:57 PM
. * * Re: ps..question regarding outflow boundaries and inflow Rabbit   Thu Aug 05 2004 06:59 PM
. * * Re: ps..question regarding outflow boundaries and inflow bobbi   Thu Aug 05 2004 07:09 PM
. * * T-numbers up James88   Thu Aug 05 2004 06:24 PM
. * * Re: T-numbers up javlin   Thu Aug 05 2004 06:28 PM
. * * Re: Surprises in the basin javlin   Thu Aug 05 2004 06:23 PM
. * * its over in the caribbean Rabbit   Thu Aug 05 2004 06:42 PM
. * * Re: Surprises in the basin andy1tom   Thu Aug 05 2004 06:37 PM
. * * Re: Surprises in the basin javlin   Thu Aug 05 2004 06:46 PM
. * * Re: Surprises in the basin andy1tom   Thu Aug 05 2004 06:53 PM
. * * Re: Surprises in the basin javlin   Thu Aug 05 2004 07:05 PM
. * * Re: Surprises in the basin summercyclone   Thu Aug 05 2004 07:12 PM
. * * Re: Alex Strengthens while TD#2 Finally Falls Apart EriktheFled   Thu Aug 05 2004 02:04 AM
. * * Re: TD#2 and look to the GOM Old Sailor   Thu Aug 05 2004 02:16 AM
. * * Re: TD#2 and look to the GOM BillD   Thu Aug 05 2004 03:09 AM
. * * Re: TD#2 and look to the GOM javlin   Thu Aug 05 2004 03:22 AM
. * * Re: TD#2 and look to the GOM HanKFranK   Thu Aug 05 2004 03:53 AM
. * * Re: TD#2 and look to the GOM javlin   Thu Aug 05 2004 05:42 AM
. * * Re: XTD2-old model fcst danielwAdministrator   Thu Aug 05 2004 07:33 AM
. * * Re: XTD2-demise danielwAdministrator   Thu Aug 05 2004 09:35 AM
. * * Re: XTD2-demise h2ocean   Thu Aug 05 2004 11:22 AM
. * * Re: XTD2-demise Steve hirsch.   Thu Aug 05 2004 11:44 AM
. * * Re: XTD2-demise Anonymous   Thu Aug 05 2004 01:34 PM
. * * Re: XTD2-demise andy1tom   Thu Aug 05 2004 01:36 PM
. * * Re: XTD2-demise Rabbit   Thu Aug 05 2004 01:45 PM
. * * Re: XTD2-demise andy1tom   Thu Aug 05 2004 01:59 PM
. * * Not Gone, but coming back? ErinAndOpal95   Thu Aug 05 2004 02:44 PM
. * * Re: Not Gone, but coming back? Steve   Thu Aug 05 2004 03:00 PM
. * * Re: Not Gone, but coming back? James88   Thu Aug 05 2004 03:14 PM
. * * Re: Not Gone, but coming back? Rabbit   Thu Aug 05 2004 03:22 PM
. * * Re: Not Gone, but coming back? ErinAndOpal95   Thu Aug 05 2004 03:26 PM
. * * Re: Not Gone, but coming back? Rabbit   Thu Aug 05 2004 03:31 PM
. * * 91L &92L LI Phil   Thu Aug 05 2004 03:43 PM
. * * Re: 91L &92L summercyclone   Thu Aug 05 2004 04:00 PM
. * * Re: Not Gone, but coming back? ErinAndOpal95   Thu Aug 05 2004 03:42 PM
. * * Re: Not Gone, but coming back? Rabbit   Thu Aug 05 2004 03:25 PM
. * * Re: Not Gone, but coming back? Rabbit   Thu Aug 05 2004 02:49 PM
. * * Re: XTD2-demise rickonboat   Thu Aug 05 2004 01:55 PM
. * * Still a CAT 3 James88   Thu Aug 05 2004 09:01 AM
. * * Re: TD#2 and look to the GOM danielwAdministrator   Thu Aug 05 2004 04:32 AM
. * * Re: What's up with the forecast? danielwAdministrator   Thu Aug 05 2004 05:40 AM
. * * Re: TD#2 and look to the GOM javlin   Thu Aug 05 2004 04:24 AM
. * * Re: TD#2 and look to the GOM danielwAdministrator   Thu Aug 05 2004 03:41 AM
. * * Re: TD#2 and look to the GOM danielwAdministrator   Thu Aug 05 2004 02:49 AM
. * * Re: TD#2 and look to the GOM Tropics Guy   Thu Aug 05 2004 02:58 AM
. * * Alex a CAT 3!!! recmod   Thu Aug 05 2004 01:54 AM
. * * Re: Alex a CAT 3!!! LI Phil   Thu Aug 05 2004 01:58 AM
. * * Re: Alex a CAT 3!!! cyclone_head   Thu Aug 05 2004 02:09 AM
. * * Re: Alex a CAT 3!!! LI Phil   Thu Aug 05 2004 02:59 AM
. * * Re: Alex Strengthens while TD#2 Finally Falls Apart cyclone_head   Thu Aug 05 2004 01:26 AM
. * * Re: Alex Strengthens while TD#2 Finally Falls Apart BillD   Thu Aug 05 2004 02:06 AM
. * * Re: San Juan NEXRAD danielwAdministrator   Thu Aug 05 2004 02:14 AM
. * * Re: XTD2 danielwAdministrator   Thu Aug 05 2004 01:53 AM
. * * Re: XTD2 jth   Thu Aug 05 2004 02:02 AM
. * * Re: Alex Strengthens while TD#2 Finally Falls Apart Cycloneye   Thu Aug 05 2004 12:13 AM
. * * Re: Alex Strengthens while TD#2 Finally Falls Apart LI Phil   Thu Aug 05 2004 12:47 AM

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