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Tropical Storm Alberto has formed from Potential Tropical Cyclone 01L. Onshore flow creating some surge, wind and heavy rains into TX/MX
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HanKFranK
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are we having fun yet?
      Mon Aug 09 2004 11:20 PM

i've gone from gung ho, to doubtful, to cautious.. ready to return to gung ho... all in a week. go check out the t.d. challenge forum later, as i'm going to post the results this evening.. and from the posts i've spent the last half hour reading through.. steve has added a new leg to it.
if i was in the florida panhandle over to the miss delta i'd be paying attention. it's only natural that the summer after i finish undergrad stuff and move away from tallahassee that something like this happens. clark, enjoy this one for me.
bonnie has a twofold nature. it is a house of cards, and it is already well structured.. at the same time. having such a well-defined core, while being so compact.. suggests that it could either rapidly intensify or go through coughing fits if the convection cuts off. there is a good deal of dry air in the region, but the system has a history of spawning decent convection.. so i'm going to err on the side of growth. folks mentioning opal should keep two things in mind. opal was large and resilient, and opal was a late season storm. this one will have a fairly sharp shortwave coming to get it later this week and may go through that sort of deepening.. if it can hold steady or intensify over the next few days. such rapid organization with mediocre presentation can signify either clay feet or a capacity to supercharge. if this thing reaches hurricane strength by tomorrow evening it is going to end up hurting somebody badly.
td 3.. likely charley. it's independent of the itcz and broad.. and rapidly moving. it won't take much shear to knock it for a loop, but not much shear is around to cause trouble. there's a very good outflow signature and healthy convection aplenty.. it should steadily strengthen as per forecast. won't get close enough to bonnie to interact.. before it goes into the northern gulf coast.. probably. the official looks good on this one.. i have nothing to add right now.
the evolving longwave pattern and how future charley interacts with the environment bonnie leaves will determine whether it recurves around peninsular florida or goes barreling across the gulf.. or even hangs in it as the ridge is forecast to solidify to the north after the late week shortwave pulls out. it may even stay further south if it strengthens slowly.. at this point the official really looks best.
may be a 94L invest east of florida on the base of the trough next day or two. globals providing some evidence of cyclogenesis on the old front.. the one near the miss delta is close to land and weak and not likely to do much with bonnie close by.. but a fish spinner of nontropical origin is a possibility.
the wave the just came off africa looks weak, but with a good area of itcz convergence near 40w loitering. there may be another disturbance developing out there as the two interact.. modeling suggests more activity in the mdr with subsequent waves as well. with a good bit of ridging near the east coast next week anything potentially coming out of this region would be a concern.
nuff for now. things are interesting and they're going to get even more interesting this week.
HF 2320z09august

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* Tropical Storm Bonnie Forms in the southeast Gulf of Mexico MikeCAdministrator Mon Aug 09 2004 11:20 PM
. * * Bonnie and Charley LadyStorm   Tue Aug 10 2004 09:38 AM
. * * Re: Tropical Storm Bonnie Forms in the southeast Gulf of Mexico Ed DunhamAdministrator   Tue Aug 10 2004 12:27 AM
. * * Re: Tropical Storm Bonnie Forms in the southeast Gulf of Mexico BugsBunny   Mon Aug 09 2004 10:13 PM
. * * Agree with Rabbit LoisCane   Mon Aug 09 2004 10:44 PM
. * * It's CHARLEY... LI Phil   Mon Aug 09 2004 10:48 PM
. * * are we having fun yet? HanKFranK   Mon Aug 09 2004 11:20 PM
. * * Sticking my neck out.... wxman007   Mon Aug 09 2004 10:55 PM
. * * Re: Sticking my neck out.... LI Phil   Mon Aug 09 2004 11:12 PM
. * * Re: Sticking my neck out.... Kal   Mon Aug 09 2004 11:23 PM
. * * Re:Numerical forecast link danielwAdministrator   Mon Aug 09 2004 11:52 PM
. * * Re: Sticking my neck out.... carl   Tue Aug 10 2004 12:15 AM
. * * Re: Sticking my neck out.... DroopGB31   Tue Aug 10 2004 12:27 AM
. * * Re: Sticking my neck out.... BabyCat   Tue Aug 10 2004 12:27 AM
. * * Re: Sticking my neck out.... LoisCane   Tue Aug 10 2004 01:08 AM
. * * LoisCane Colleen A.   Tue Aug 10 2004 01:42 AM
. * * Re: LoisCane SirCane   Tue Aug 10 2004 01:56 AM
. * * unpredictble Alex K   Tue Aug 10 2004 02:21 AM
. * * Re: unpredictble DroopGB31   Tue Aug 10 2004 02:30 AM
. * * Re: unpredictble andy1tom   Tue Aug 10 2004 02:35 AM
. * * Re: unpredictble SirCane   Tue Aug 10 2004 02:42 AM
. * * Re: unpredictble Storm Cooper   Tue Aug 10 2004 02:38 AM
. * * Re: unpredictble SirCane   Tue Aug 10 2004 02:28 AM
. * * Re: unpredictble Storm Cooper   Tue Aug 10 2004 02:34 AM
. * * Re:blowin up! Rasvar   Tue Aug 10 2004 02:07 AM
. * * Re:blowin up! 52255225   Tue Aug 10 2004 02:12 AM
. * * Re:blowin up! jth   Tue Aug 10 2004 02:25 AM
. * * Re: Sticking my neck out.... SirCane   Tue Aug 10 2004 12:50 AM
. * * Re: Sticking my neck out.... BabyCat   Tue Aug 10 2004 02:11 AM
. * * If only... LI Phil   Mon Aug 09 2004 11:46 PM
. * * Re: If only... Kal   Mon Aug 09 2004 11:56 PM
. * * Re: If only... LI Phil   Mon Aug 09 2004 11:58 PM
. * * Re: Bourbon Street Low danielwAdministrator   Tue Aug 10 2004 12:12 AM
. * * Re: If only... Joe   Mon Aug 09 2004 11:54 PM
. * * Re: Sticking my neck out.... Joe   Mon Aug 09 2004 11:45 PM
. * * remember OPAL? rickonboat   Mon Aug 09 2004 11:19 PM
. * * Re: Sticking my neck out.... BugsBunny   Mon Aug 09 2004 11:05 PM
. * * lyons LoisCane   Tue Aug 10 2004 12:10 AM
. * * Re: lyons andy1tom   Tue Aug 10 2004 12:31 AM
. * * It's CHARLEY... LI Phil   Tue Aug 10 2004 12:32 AM
. * * Re: It's CHARLEY... andy1tom   Tue Aug 10 2004 12:38 AM
. * * Re: It's CHARLEY... LI Phil   Tue Aug 10 2004 12:42 AM
. * * Re: It's CHARLEY... Hardcore   Tue Aug 10 2004 01:35 AM
. * * Re: It's CHARLEY... BillD   Tue Aug 10 2004 02:00 AM
. * * Re: It's CHARLEY... SirCane   Tue Aug 10 2004 01:55 AM
. * * decode recon data? Anonymous   Tue Aug 10 2004 12:38 AM
. * * Re: decode recon data? danielwAdministrator   Tue Aug 10 2004 12:45 AM
. * * Re: decode recon data? Old Sailor   Tue Aug 10 2004 12:54 AM
. * * Re: decode recon data? DroopGB31   Tue Aug 10 2004 01:00 AM
. * * Re: decode recon data? Anonymous   Tue Aug 10 2004 01:11 AM
. * * Models Kevin   Tue Aug 10 2004 12:58 AM
. * * Re: Models Clark   Tue Aug 10 2004 01:58 AM
. * * Re: Models Rasvar   Tue Aug 10 2004 02:33 AM
. * * Re: Models Clark   Tue Aug 10 2004 03:15 AM
. * * Re: Models Clark   Tue Aug 10 2004 03:27 AM
. * * Re: ETA Model Tropics Guy   Tue Aug 10 2004 03:39 AM
. * * Re: Models Rasvar   Tue Aug 10 2004 03:19 AM
. * * Bonnie & Her Fluctuations Colleen A.   Tue Aug 10 2004 04:11 AM
. * * Re: Bonnie & Her Fluctuations bobbi   Tue Aug 10 2004 04:27 AM
. * * Re: Bonnie & Her Fluctuations SirCane   Tue Aug 10 2004 04:33 AM
. * * Re: Bonnie & Her Fluctuations Clark   Tue Aug 10 2004 04:44 AM
. * * Re: Bonnie & Her Fluctuations Hardcore   Tue Aug 10 2004 05:05 AM
. * * One More thing to Watch for: Colleen A.   Tue Aug 10 2004 04:23 AM
. * * There already? Anonymous   Tue Aug 10 2004 04:36 AM
. * * looking ahead of storm? Anonymous   Tue Aug 10 2004 05:10 AM
. * * almost there.... Anonymous   Tue Aug 10 2004 05:15 AM
. * * how she doin mikeG   Tue Aug 10 2004 05:27 AM
. * * think td3 is near TS Anonymous   Tue Aug 10 2004 05:53 AM
. * * recon Anonymous   Tue Aug 10 2004 06:06 AM
. * * Re: think td3 is near TS James88   Tue Aug 10 2004 05:55 AM
. * * Re: think td3 is near TS danielwAdministrator   Tue Aug 10 2004 06:08 AM
. * * Re: think td3 is near TS BugsBunny   Tue Aug 10 2004 06:10 AM
. * * Re: Bonnie Fix 06Z danielwAdministrator   Tue Aug 10 2004 06:08 AM
. * * Re:TD3 CDO? Temps danielwAdministrator   Tue Aug 10 2004 06:19 AM
. * * Re:TD3 CDO? Temps joepub1   Tue Aug 10 2004 06:25 AM
. * * Re:TD3 CDO? Temps Anonymous   Tue Aug 10 2004 06:40 AM
. * * a wave by sunrise? BugsBunny   Tue Aug 10 2004 07:01 AM
. * * Re: a wave by sunrise? BugsBunny   Tue Aug 10 2004 07:02 AM
. * * Re: a wave by sunrise? WeatherNLU   Tue Aug 10 2004 07:10 AM
. * * Re: a wave by sunrise? Anonymous   Tue Aug 10 2004 07:09 AM
. * * Re: Interesting Note danielwAdministrator   Tue Aug 10 2004 07:46 AM
. * * bonnie on comeback Anonymous   Tue Aug 10 2004 07:28 AM
. * * Re: bonnie on comeback Anonymous   Tue Aug 10 2004 07:36 AM
. * * Re: bonnie on comeback danielwAdministrator   Tue Aug 10 2004 08:24 AM
. * * Re: bonnie on comeback BugsBunny   Tue Aug 10 2004 08:30 AM
. * * Re: bonnie on comeback James88   Tue Aug 10 2004 08:47 AM
. * * Re: bonnie on comeback danielwAdministrator   Tue Aug 10 2004 08:53 AM
. * * Charley's track James88   Tue Aug 10 2004 09:00 AM
. * * Re: Charley's track danielwAdministrator   Tue Aug 10 2004 09:05 AM
. * * Re: bonnie on comeback BugsBunny   Tue Aug 10 2004 09:00 AM
. * * Re: bonnie on comeback/ Can you say Opal danielwAdministrator   Tue Aug 10 2004 09:13 AM
. * * Re: Charley danielwAdministrator   Tue Aug 10 2004 09:31 AM
. * * Re: Charley danielwAdministrator   Tue Aug 10 2004 09:42 AM
. * * data message Alex K   Tue Aug 10 2004 12:19 PM
. * * Re: Bonnie danielwAdministrator   Tue Aug 10 2004 09:52 AM
. * * Early Mornin' All... LI Phil   Tue Aug 10 2004 10:33 AM
. * * Here is my forecast number one! Anonymous   Tue Aug 10 2004 10:34 AM
. * * Re: Here is my forecast number one! Hurric   Tue Aug 10 2004 11:00 AM
. * * Bonnie flaring up James88   Tue Aug 10 2004 10:41 AM
. * * Re: Bonnie flaring up SirCane   Tue Aug 10 2004 01:00 PM
. * * Re: Bonnie flaring up andy1tom   Tue Aug 10 2004 01:13 PM
. * * strange question on Bonnie LoisCane   Tue Aug 10 2004 01:19 PM
. * * Re: strange question on Bonnie doug   Tue Aug 10 2004 01:28 PM
. * * Bastardi Anonymous   Tue Aug 10 2004 01:10 PM
. * * Re: Bonnie flaring up danielwAdministrator   Tue Aug 10 2004 10:49 AM
. * * Re: bonnie on comeback James88   Tue Aug 10 2004 08:52 AM
. * * Re: bonnie on comeback BugsBunny   Tue Aug 10 2004 08:53 AM
. * * Re: bonnie on comeback danielwAdministrator   Tue Aug 10 2004 08:29 AM
. * * TD3 --- LARGE Anonymous   Tue Aug 10 2004 07:55 AM
. * * Re: TD3 --- LARGE danielwAdministrator   Tue Aug 10 2004 08:06 AM
. * * anyone have any links Anonymous   Tue Aug 10 2004 08:10 AM
. * * Re: anyone have any links BugsBunny   Tue Aug 10 2004 08:14 AM
. * * Re: a wave by sunrise? BugsBunny   Tue Aug 10 2004 07:11 AM
. * * Re: a wave by sunrise? WeatherNLU   Tue Aug 10 2004 07:22 AM
. * * Re: a wave by sunrise? BugsBunny   Tue Aug 10 2004 07:36 AM
. * * For Rabbit bobbi   Tue Aug 10 2004 11:15 AM
. * * Fast Moving Hurricanes recmod   Tue Aug 10 2004 11:46 AM
. * * Fast Historical Hurricanes James88   Tue Aug 10 2004 11:45 AM
. * * Re: For Rabbit Steve hirschb.   Tue Aug 10 2004 11:22 AM
. * * i hear you Steve... B O B B I   Tue Aug 10 2004 11:33 AM
. * * Re: i hear you Steve... JustMe   Tue Aug 10 2004 11:51 AM
. * * Bonnie's IR looking better this am Frank P   Tue Aug 10 2004 12:03 PM
. * * Re: Bonnie's IR looking better this am Anonymous   Tue Aug 10 2004 12:20 PM
. * * Re: Bonnie's IR looking better this am Frank P   Tue Aug 10 2004 12:26 PM
. * * Re: Bonnie's IR looking better this am doug   Tue Aug 10 2004 01:18 PM
. * * Re: Bonnie's IR looking better this am GuppieGrouper   Tue Aug 10 2004 01:34 PM
. * * Re: Bonnie's IR looking better this am LoisCane   Tue Aug 10 2004 01:39 PM
. * * Re: Bonnie's IR looking better this am GuppieGrouper   Tue Aug 10 2004 01:52 PM
. * * Re: Bonnie's IR looking better this am doug   Tue Aug 10 2004 02:02 PM
. * * Re: Bonnie's IR looking better this am Anonymous   Tue Aug 10 2004 02:28 PM
. * * Re: Bonnie's IR looking better this am andy1tom   Tue Aug 10 2004 02:31 PM
. * * Re: Bonnie's IR looking better this am Hardcore   Tue Aug 10 2004 02:48 PM
. * * two things.. LoisCane   Tue Aug 10 2004 12:37 PM
. * * Recon jth   Tue Aug 10 2004 12:55 PM
. * * Re: Bonnie's IR looking better this am jth   Tue Aug 10 2004 12:24 PM
. * * Allen..maybe I was thinking Allen and not Gilbert, thanks LoisCane   Tue Aug 10 2004 11:58 AM
. * * wind report Anonymous   Tue Aug 10 2004 07:45 AM
. * * an interesting link from Alex Anonymous   Tue Aug 10 2004 07:16 AM
. * * Re: recon Anonymous   Tue Aug 10 2004 07:00 AM
. * * Re: recon Anonymous   Tue Aug 10 2004 06:21 AM
. * * Re: recon Anonymous   Tue Aug 10 2004 06:23 AM
. * * Re: recon danielwAdministrator   Tue Aug 10 2004 06:27 AM
. * * Re: Bonnie Fix 06Z joepub1   Tue Aug 10 2004 06:11 AM
. * * Re: Bonnie Fix 06Z *DELETED* BugsBunny   Tue Aug 10 2004 06:21 AM
. * * Re: Bonnie Fix 06Z BugsBunny   Tue Aug 10 2004 06:23 AM
. * * Re: Bonnie Fix 06Z joepub1   Tue Aug 10 2004 06:16 AM
. * * recon Anonymous   Tue Aug 10 2004 06:14 AM
. * * Re: recon Anonymous   Tue Aug 10 2004 06:15 AM
. * * Re: recon Anonymous   Tue Aug 10 2004 06:18 AM
. * * Re: think td3 is near TS joepub1   Tue Aug 10 2004 05:57 AM
. * * Re: think td3 is near TS joepub1   Tue Aug 10 2004 06:00 AM
. * * Re: almost there.... danielwAdministrator   Tue Aug 10 2004 05:22 AM
. * * Re: There already? Clark   Tue Aug 10 2004 04:38 AM
. * * what will recon find? Anonymous   Tue Aug 10 2004 04:41 AM
. * * Re: what will recon find? joepub1   Tue Aug 10 2004 05:20 AM
. * * water temps Anonymous   Tue Aug 10 2004 04:46 AM
. * * Re: Bonnie & Her Fluctuations danielwAdministrator   Tue Aug 10 2004 04:18 AM
. * * Re: Bonnie & Her Fluctuations SirCane   Tue Aug 10 2004 04:17 AM
. * * Re: Models BabyCat   Tue Aug 10 2004 02:43 AM
. * * Re: Models andy1tom   Tue Aug 10 2004 02:49 AM
. * * Re: Bonnie danielwAdministrator   Tue Aug 10 2004 02:59 AM
. * * 11pm adv/commentary HanKFranK   Tue Aug 10 2004 03:25 AM
. * * going out on a limb here... BugsBunny   Tue Aug 10 2004 03:02 AM
. * * Re: going out on a limb here... Anonymous   Tue Aug 10 2004 03:16 AM
. * * Re: going out on a limb here... danielwAdministrator   Tue Aug 10 2004 04:02 AM
. * * Re: going out on a limb here... Clark   Tue Aug 10 2004 03:30 AM
. * * Re: going out on a limb here... Storm Cooper   Tue Aug 10 2004 03:28 AM
. * * Re: Bonnie BabyCat   Tue Aug 10 2004 03:01 AM
. * * Re: Models BabyCat   Tue Aug 10 2004 02:56 AM
. * * Re: Models Anonymous   Tue Aug 10 2004 02:56 AM
. * * Re: Models SirCane   Tue Aug 10 2004 02:02 AM
. * * Re: Models Old Sailor   Tue Aug 10 2004 01:11 AM
. * * Re: decode recon data? BillD   Tue Aug 10 2004 12:43 AM
. * * YeP! decode recon data? Anonymous   Tue Aug 10 2004 12:45 AM
. * * Re: Tropical Storm Bonnie Forms in the southeast Gulf of Mexico SirCane   Mon Aug 09 2004 10:18 PM
. * * Strengthening WXMAN RICHIE   Mon Aug 09 2004 10:31 PM
. * * Re: Strengthening Clark   Mon Aug 09 2004 10:34 PM
. * * Re: Strengthening??? danielwAdministrator   Tue Aug 10 2004 12:39 AM
. * * Re: Strengthening??? Frank P   Tue Aug 10 2004 12:52 AM
. * * Re: Strengthening??? Old Sailor   Tue Aug 10 2004 12:57 AM
. * * Re: Models ticka1   Tue Aug 10 2004 12:59 AM
. * * Re: Models danielwAdministrator   Tue Aug 10 2004 01:07 AM
. * * Re: Strengthening Anonymous   Mon Aug 09 2004 10:35 PM
. * * Re: Strengthening LI Phil   Mon Aug 09 2004 10:44 PM

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