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Roberta
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Re: Preliminary Damage Photos
      Sat Aug 14 2004 10:28 AM

My son lives in Port Charlotte - watching all the damage reports this morning and the entire area around Punta Gorda & Port Charlotte just looks horrific, and the loss of many lives is heartbreaking, especially the reports from the trailer parks.

What I want to know is: WHERE is Jim Cantori of the Weather Channel this morning?? He said last night he would show us damage this morning when the sun comes back up. There is NO SIGN of Jim, and the Weather Channel is pretty conspicuous about leaping from Key West then up to the Carolinas, leaving out a great deal of reporting about the devastated areas between those two points. We watched the progress of Charley very closely on the WC up to the point and after landfall - prior to landfall, all the WC was yacking about and showing pretty graphics on was the Tampa/St. Pete area - like it was a CERTAINTY that this was where the storm was going. This is upsetting because many people took this as "gospel" and, consequently, got caught with little or no time to evacuate when it became apparent a few hours before landfall that the Ft. Myers area was going to be ground zero. Those elderly folks that were killed in those mobile home parks had little chance to get out...many of them have physical problems and needed assistance to evacuate...not just a knock on their door. They needed some time, and I think would have HAD the time if the storm track hadn't been reported with so much absolute assurance from the WC that Tampa/St. Pete was the target of this storm. Prior to Charley making the N/NE turn, Dr. Lyons on WC used very FEW "qualifying" words when indicating the storm track, so sure he was that Tampa/St. Pete was THE spot.
I think the WC knows today how they messed up, and have stopped Jim Cantori from reporting this morning, in an effort to "change the subject" to the Carolinas and Dr. Lyons is choosing his words much more carefully this morning.

Sorry to vent, but am upset about all these elderly folks losing their lives due to preconceived and self-assured forecasting on the part of the WC. Sure do miss Dr. John Hope, bless his soul...he really knew hurricanes and how to prepare people for ANY eventuality and never "carved in stone" his forecasts.
So very thankful to hear that most everyone else in the storm's later path was informed and able to weather the storm and are alive this morning.

Hope that we are spared these next storms on their way...and that some lessons have been learned.

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* Category 4 Hurricane Charley Landfalls north of Ft. Myers Central Florida Bracing MikeCAdministrator Sat Aug 14 2004 10:28 AM
. * * Re: Category 4 Hurricane Charley Landfalls north of Ft. Myers Central Florida Bracing bigjohnflorida   Wed Aug 25 2004 08:24 PM
. * * Re: Category 4 Hurricane Charley Landfalls north of Ft. Myers Central Florida Bracing StormLover   Sat Aug 14 2004 10:37 PM
. * * Re: Category 4 Hurricane Charley Landfalls north of Ft. Myers Central Florida Bracing SkeetoBiteAdministrator   Sun Aug 15 2004 12:33 AM
. * * Re: Category 4 Hurricane Charley Landfalls north of Ft. Myers Central Florida Bracing StormLover   Sat Aug 14 2004 10:30 PM
. * * Re: Category 4 Hurricane Charley Landfalls north of Ft. Myers Central Florida Bracing Anonymous   Fri Aug 13 2004 06:19 PM
. * * Re: Category 4 Hurricane Charley Landfalls north of Ft. Myers Central Florida Bracing Chatty   Fri Aug 13 2004 05:57 PM
. * * Re: Category 4 Hurricane Charley Landfalls north of Ft. Myers Central Florida Bracing alan   Fri Aug 13 2004 06:05 PM
. * * Tornadoes Jamiewx   Fri Aug 13 2004 06:01 PM
. * * South Carolina rjp   Fri Aug 13 2004 06:06 PM
. * * Arcadia FL Update WXMAN RICHIE   Fri Aug 13 2004 06:10 PM
. * * Early Rain Band recmod   Fri Aug 13 2004 06:23 PM
. * * Re: Early Rain Band recmod   Fri Aug 13 2004 06:28 PM
. * * Ominous Picture La Girl   Fri Aug 13 2004 06:50 PM
. * * Re: Ominous Picture Jeffmidtown   Fri Aug 13 2004 06:56 PM
. * * Re: Ominous Picture StormHound   Fri Aug 13 2004 06:59 PM
. * * Re: Ominous Picture Ronn   Fri Aug 13 2004 07:44 PM
. * * Weather Conditions Jamiewx   Fri Aug 13 2004 07:51 PM
. * * Re: Weather Conditions OrlandoWaiting   Fri Aug 13 2004 07:53 PM
. * * Re: Weather Conditions alan   Fri Aug 13 2004 08:01 PM
. * * Re: Weather Conditions Anonymous   Fri Aug 20 2004 11:30 AM
. * * Re: Weather Conditions OrlandoWaiting   Fri Aug 13 2004 08:04 PM
. * * Peak Gusts? RichD   Sat Aug 14 2004 07:20 AM
. * * Preliminary Damage Photos recmod   Sat Aug 14 2004 08:39 AM
. * * Re: Preliminary Damage Photos recmod   Sat Aug 14 2004 08:41 AM
. * * Re: Preliminary Damage Photos Frank P   Sat Aug 14 2004 08:50 AM
. * * Re: Preliminary Damage Photos Roberta   Sat Aug 14 2004 10:28 AM
. * * Re: Preliminary Damage Photos joepub1   Sat Aug 14 2004 11:07 AM
. * * Re: Preliminary Damage Photos Karen   Sun Aug 15 2004 12:37 PM
. * * joepub and wxwatcherdeux LI Phil   Sat Aug 14 2004 11:26 AM
. * * Re: Preliminary Damage Photos Jeffmidtown   Sat Aug 14 2004 10:38 AM
. * * Re: Preliminary Damage Photos Wxwatcher2   Sat Aug 14 2004 11:14 AM
. * * Re: Preliminary Damage Photos LI Phil   Sat Aug 14 2004 10:35 AM
. * * Re: Preliminary Damage Photos Roberta   Sat Aug 14 2004 10:56 AM
. * * Re: Preliminary Damage Photos Wxwatcher2   Sat Aug 14 2004 11:28 AM
. * * Re: Preliminary Damage Photos Kimster   Sat Aug 14 2004 10:31 AM
. * * Re: Preliminary Damage Photos GuppieGrouper   Sat Aug 14 2004 09:35 AM
. * * Re: Preliminary Damage Photos recmod   Sat Aug 14 2004 12:01 PM
. * * Earl next rickonboat   Sat Aug 14 2004 12:22 PM
. * * Re: Earl next StormLover   Sat Aug 14 2004 10:43 PM
. * * Re: Earl next rickonboat   Sat Aug 14 2004 12:38 PM
. * * Re: Earl next GuppieGrouper   Sat Aug 14 2004 12:46 PM
. * * Re: Earl next Rabbit   Sat Aug 14 2004 01:40 PM
. * * Re: Earl next James88   Sat Aug 14 2004 01:47 PM
. * * Re: Earl next BillD   Sat Aug 14 2004 03:16 PM
. * * Final Analysis on Charley FlaRebel   Sat Aug 14 2004 02:06 PM
. * * Re: Final Analysis on Charley Londovir   Sat Aug 14 2004 03:01 PM
. * * Arcadia damage Aunt Debbie S   Sat Aug 14 2004 05:00 PM
. * * Re: Arcadia damage Anonymous   Wed Aug 25 2004 04:24 PM
. * * Re: Arcadia damage Anonymous   Tue Aug 17 2004 01:26 PM
. * * Re: Arcadia damage LI Phil   Tue Aug 17 2004 01:47 PM
. * * Re: Arcadia damage Anonymous   Tue Aug 17 2004 01:23 PM
. * * Viper radar Pics of Charley WOW 1234   Sat Aug 14 2004 06:16 PM
. * * Re: Viper radar Pics of Charley WOW Tom U.   Mon Aug 16 2004 12:51 PM
. * * Re: Final Analysis on Charley bsnyder   Sat Aug 14 2004 03:15 PM
. * * TD5 update Jamiewx   Sat Aug 14 2004 03:18 PM
. * * Re: Final Analysis on Charley DroopGB31   Sat Aug 14 2004 03:12 PM
. * * Evacuations bsnyder   Sat Aug 14 2004 02:51 PM
. * * Re: Evacuations Ricreig   Mon Aug 16 2004 12:04 PM
. * * Re: Preliminary Damage Photos recmod   Sat Aug 14 2004 11:58 AM
. * * Re: Preliminary Damage Photos recmod   Sat Aug 14 2004 11:57 AM
. * * Re: Preliminary Damage Photos recmod   Sat Aug 14 2004 11:56 AM
. * * Re: Preliminary Damage Photos recmod   Sat Aug 14 2004 11:55 AM
. * * Re: Preliminary Damage Photos Rich B   Sat Aug 14 2004 10:06 AM
. * * Re: Preliminary Damage Photos LI Phil   Sat Aug 14 2004 09:18 AM
. * * Re: Preliminary Damage Photos joepub1   Sat Aug 14 2004 10:00 AM
. * * Re: Preliminary Damage Photos PFSThunder   Sat Aug 14 2004 10:09 AM
. * * lee/charlotte/desoto/hardee HanKFranK   Sat Aug 14 2004 10:34 AM
. * * Re: lee/charlotte/desoto/hardee Kimster   Sat Aug 14 2004 11:34 AM
. * * TD 5 Model runs Frank P   Sat Aug 14 2004 10:24 AM
. * * Re: TD 5 Model runs LI Phil   Sat Aug 14 2004 10:28 AM
. * * Re: TD 5 Model runs 52255225   Sat Aug 14 2004 10:26 AM
. * * Re: TD5 model runs Frank P   Sat Aug 14 2004 10:06 AM
. * * Re: TD5 model runs joepub1   Sat Aug 14 2004 10:34 AM
. * * Here we go again!! Jamiewx   Sat Aug 14 2004 09:25 AM
. * * Re: Here we go again!! Frank P   Sat Aug 14 2004 09:41 AM
. * * Re: Here we go again!! Terri   Sat Aug 14 2004 09:57 AM
. * * Re: Here we go again!! LI Phil   Sat Aug 14 2004 09:49 AM
. * * Re: Here we go again!! 52255225   Sat Aug 14 2004 09:47 AM
. * * Re: Here we go again!! Frank P   Sat Aug 14 2004 09:52 AM
. * * Re: Here we go again!! Frank P   Sat Aug 14 2004 09:40 AM
. * * Preliminary Damage Photos recmod   Sat Aug 14 2004 08:38 AM
. * * Preliminary Damage Photos recmod   Sat Aug 14 2004 08:37 AM
. * * Re: Weather Conditions Wxwatcher2   Fri Aug 13 2004 08:26 PM
. * * Re: Weather Conditions Floridacane   Fri Aug 13 2004 08:32 PM
. * * Re: Weather Conditions Jeffmidtown   Fri Aug 13 2004 08:35 PM
. * * Re: Weather Conditions GuppieGrouper   Fri Aug 13 2004 08:42 PM
. * * Re: Weather Conditions Jeffmidtown   Fri Aug 13 2004 08:51 PM
. * * Cape Canaveral report troy2   Fri Aug 13 2004 08:51 PM
. * * Re: Cape Canaveral report troy2   Fri Aug 13 2004 08:54 PM
. * * Impressive Wind Jamiewx   Fri Aug 13 2004 09:02 PM
. * * Re: Impressive Wind danielwAdministrator   Fri Aug 13 2004 09:10 PM
. * * Danny-boy LI Phil   Fri Aug 13 2004 09:17 PM
. * * Re: Impressive Wind WXMAN RICHIE   Fri Aug 13 2004 09:14 PM
. * * Re: Impressive Wind danielwAdministrator   Fri Aug 13 2004 09:18 PM
. * * Re: Impressive Wind Frank P   Fri Aug 13 2004 09:30 PM
. * * Re: Impressive Wind danielwAdministrator   Fri Aug 13 2004 09:53 PM
. * * Re: Impressive Wind recmod   Fri Aug 13 2004 10:23 PM
. * * NOAA Weather Radio Jamiewx   Fri Aug 13 2004 10:29 PM
. * * Re: NOAA Weather Radio danielwAdministrator   Fri Aug 13 2004 10:38 PM
. * * Re: NOAA Weather Radio Jamiewx   Fri Aug 13 2004 10:40 PM
. * * Re: NOAA Weather Radio Aunt Debbie S   Fri Aug 13 2004 10:44 PM
. * * Re:Local Storm Reports danielwAdministrator   Fri Aug 13 2004 10:55 PM
. * * Re:Local Storm Reports Aunt Debbie S   Fri Aug 13 2004 11:17 PM
. * * Re:Charley danielwAdministrator   Fri Aug 13 2004 11:25 PM
. * * Re:Charley Wxwatcher2   Sat Aug 14 2004 12:03 AM
. * * Re:Charley palmetto   Fri Aug 13 2004 11:32 PM
. * * Re:Charley Steve   Fri Aug 13 2004 11:46 PM
. * * Re:Charley wxman007   Fri Aug 13 2004 11:50 PM
. * * Re:Charley danielwAdministrator   Fri Aug 13 2004 11:42 PM
. * * Re:Daytona Weather danielwAdministrator   Fri Aug 13 2004 11:44 PM
. * * Re:Peak Winds at airports danielwAdministrator   Fri Aug 13 2004 11:57 PM
. * * Re: NOAA Weather Radio BabyCat   Fri Aug 13 2004 10:33 PM
. * * Some reports.... wxman007   Fri Aug 13 2004 10:39 PM
. * * Re: Some reports.... Ormond Suzie   Fri Aug 13 2004 11:16 PM
. * * Re: Some reports.... BabyCat   Fri Aug 13 2004 10:48 PM
. * * Re: Some reports.... SirCane   Fri Aug 13 2004 10:54 PM
. * * Re: Weather Conditions BillD   Fri Aug 13 2004 08:22 PM
. * * Re: Weather Conditions MikeCAdministrator   Fri Aug 13 2004 08:14 PM
. * * Re: Weather Conditions MikeCAdministrator   Fri Aug 13 2004 09:52 PM
. * * Orlando report Clark   Fri Aug 13 2004 10:55 PM
. * * Charley's future Clark   Sat Aug 14 2004 12:00 AM
. * * Re: Charley's future danielwAdministrator   Sat Aug 14 2004 12:32 AM
. * * Re: Charley's future Clark   Sat Aug 14 2004 12:43 AM
. * * Re: Charley's future SirCane   Sat Aug 14 2004 01:25 AM
. * * Re: Charley's past danielwAdministrator   Sat Aug 14 2004 12:48 AM
. * * Re: Charley's past DroopGB31   Sat Aug 14 2004 01:39 AM
. * * Re: Charley's past danielwAdministrator   Sat Aug 14 2004 01:57 AM
. * * Re: Charley Recon Fix danielwAdministrator   Sat Aug 14 2004 01:58 AM
. * * Danielle & Earl LI Phil   Sat Aug 14 2004 05:06 AM
. * * Re: Danielle & Earl AngB   Sat Aug 14 2004 05:12 AM
. * * Re: Danielle & Earl James88   Sat Aug 14 2004 05:57 AM
. * * Re: Charley's future Steve   Sat Aug 14 2004 12:35 AM
. * * More reports Clark   Sat Aug 14 2004 12:21 AM
. * * Hunter's Creek Area StormHound   Fri Aug 13 2004 08:17 PM
. * * charlie Anonymous   Fri Aug 13 2004 08:19 PM
. * * Re: charlie DMFischer   Fri Aug 13 2004 08:26 PM
. * * Re: charlie alan   Fri Aug 13 2004 08:33 PM
. * * Re: charlie Clark   Fri Aug 13 2004 08:40 PM
. * * charlie/ORlando Aunt Debbie S   Fri Aug 13 2004 08:49 PM
. * * Re: charlie Aunt Debbie   Fri Aug 13 2004 08:25 PM
. * * Re: charlie OrlandoWaiting   Fri Aug 13 2004 08:21 PM
. * * Hey, Orlando waiting... LI Phil   Fri Aug 13 2004 08:23 PM
. * * Re: Hey, Orlando waiting... MikeCAdministrator   Fri Aug 13 2004 08:29 PM
. * * Re: Weather Conditions OrlandoWaiting   Fri Aug 13 2004 08:00 PM
. * * Re: Weather Conditions AgentB   Fri Aug 13 2004 07:53 PM
. * * Re: Weather Conditions h2ocean   Fri Aug 13 2004 07:58 PM
. * * Re: Ominous Picture Jeffmidtown   Fri Aug 13 2004 07:26 PM
. * * Re: Ominous Picture BillD   Fri Aug 13 2004 07:39 PM
. * * Re: Ominous Picture Tanbark   Fri Aug 13 2004 07:37 PM
. * * SW Orlando StormHound   Fri Aug 13 2004 07:43 PM
. * * Disney under the gun... LI Phil   Fri Aug 13 2004 07:36 PM
. * * Re: Disney under the gun... Wxwatcher2   Fri Aug 13 2004 07:39 PM
. * * Re: Early Rain Band Chad   Fri Aug 13 2004 06:46 PM
. * * Re: Early Rain Band alan   Fri Aug 13 2004 06:28 PM
. * * Re: Early Rain Band StormHound   Fri Aug 13 2004 06:53 PM
. * * Re: Arcadia FL Update Jeffmidtown   Fri Aug 13 2004 06:17 PM
. * * Re: Category 4 Hurricane Charley Landfalls north of Ft. Myers Central Florida Bracing Anonymous   Fri Aug 13 2004 04:42 PM
. * * Re: Category 4 Hurricane Charley Landfalls north of Ft. Myers Central Florida Bracing Michelle   Fri Aug 13 2004 05:16 PM
. * * Flights LI Phil   Fri Aug 13 2004 05:02 PM
. * * Re: Flights GuppieGrouper   Fri Aug 13 2004 05:09 PM
. * * Polk County Colleen A.   Fri Aug 13 2004 05:39 PM
. * * Re: Polk County SirCane   Fri Aug 13 2004 06:07 PM
. * * close to home HanKFranK   Fri Aug 13 2004 06:21 PM
. * * Re: close to home -- storm report spookmcg   Fri Aug 13 2004 07:42 PM
. * * An update and a thanks LI Phil   Fri Aug 13 2004 07:54 PM
. * * Re: Polk County WXMAN RICHIE   Fri Aug 13 2004 05:56 PM
. * * Re: Polk County StormHound   Fri Aug 13 2004 05:45 PM
. * * Re: Polk County DMFischer   Fri Aug 13 2004 05:55 PM
. * * Re: Flights WeatherNLU   Fri Aug 13 2004 05:10 PM
. * * Re: Flights AmateurJohn   Fri Aug 13 2004 05:24 PM
. * * Arcadia FL WXMAN RICHIE   Fri Aug 13 2004 05:31 PM
. * * Re: Flights StormHound   Fri Aug 13 2004 05:28 PM
. * * Stormhound... LI Phil   Fri Aug 13 2004 05:31 PM
. * * Highest Winds WXMAN RICHIE   Fri Aug 13 2004 05:36 PM
. * * Re: Flights Anonymous   Fri Aug 13 2004 05:17 PM
. * * Re: Category 4 Hurricane Charley Landfalls north of Ft. Myers Central Florida Bracing palmetto   Fri Aug 13 2004 05:01 PM

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