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Frances' Path & Intensity + "Alarmists" Comment
      Mon Aug 30 2004 02:32 PM

Just wanted to post a few personal observations after riding out Hurricane Charley in Central Florida (Polk County) -- in which we were extremely lucky that we (my family) did not take the brunt of Charley.

As we all learned, the models can all be in the same general direction and for the most part, most of them were only about 70 miles off as to where landfall would occur. The only one that wasn't was the correct one -- the one that took it right into Ft. Myers/Punta Gorda/Port Charlotte. I don't think anybody believed at that point that we could go from a Cat 2 to Cat 4 just before landfall, but it happened. My county is still trying to recover from Charley, and we didn't even take the brunt of the 145mph winds.

We often hear this from the forecasters: "don't just look at the red line because there is a margin of error and it could hit anywhere in between that cone". I never paid much attention to that warning until Charley. Now I take it a lot more serious than I ever did. A 100 miles to the right or to the left of that track makes a huge difference, and here in Florida we learned that on August 13th. As for instensity, they now have it as a Cat IV on Sunday/Monday morning and I'm not sure if they are even speculating as to what may happen when it crosses the very warm gulfstream waters. Also, if it does make a southeast Florida landfall (and I'm not saying it will) we have to take into consideration the Okechobee River. That is a HUGE body of water which would allow Frances to keep her instensity as it crosses the state/goes up the state, whichever happens. If it missed the Okechobee river to the left or to the right, we would still be looking at a very damaging hurricane upon landfall; if it crosses right across the middle, we could be looking at a Cat 4 or 5 as it makes it's way up/across the state of Florida, which would cause catastrophic damage for the entire state.

Am I being an alarmist? Absolutely not. I am looking at what happened with Charley. Charley crossed the state with 100mph winds and some people have nothing left. And THAT was what happened to the INLAND counties, and here in Polk County ALONE we have $700 million of damage. Charley woke us up, Frances might be a nightmare. There is absolutely nothing wrong with being prepared for a possible hit from Frances; actually, if you live along the eastern seaboard and are NOT prepared, it's pretty irresponsible. The NHC can only prepare you; state and local officials can order evacuations; but when it comes right down to it, YOU and you alone are responsible for protecting yourself, your family and your property.

Now...on to the models. Tampa Bays ABC Action New Channel 28 weather gal talked to one of the forecasters from the NHC during the 12 noon newscast. When asked when we could start REALLY looking at the possibility of whether or not we will get a direct hit, he said "Wednesday is going to be a very important day as to what we believe will happen with Frances, and all residents along the southeastern coast, especially Florida, really need to keep tuned in this whole week, especially from Wednesday on."

That comment came directly from the horse's mouth. Believe me, I DO NOT want to experience another hurricane at all. But that doesn't mean I can just ignore it and pretend it isn't out there.

That being said, I have put in an urgent request to Mother Nature to PLEASE kick Frances out to the N/NE; I'll let you know when she gets back with me. Probably around the same time I see the pigs flying across my backyard.

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* Gaston Landfalls in South Carolina, Tropical Storm Hermine Forms MikeCAdministrator Mon Aug 30 2004 02:32 PM
. * * Re: Gaston Landfalls in South Carolina, Tropical Storm Hermine Forms delta   Mon Aug 30 2004 03:26 PM
. * * Re: Gaston Landfalls in South Carolina, Tropical Storm Hermine Forms delta   Mon Aug 30 2004 01:41 PM
. * * Link to current conditions in Antigua Cocoa Beach   Mon Aug 30 2004 11:35 AM
. * * Got one of my gut feelings right. Cocoa Beach   Mon Aug 30 2004 10:18 AM
. * * Re: Gaston Landfalls in South Carolina, Tropical Storm Hermine Forms Ricreig   Mon Aug 30 2004 07:46 AM
. * * Re: Gaston Landfalls in South Carolina, Tropical Storm Hermine Forms JustMe   Mon Aug 30 2004 07:58 AM
. * * Re: Gaston Landfalls in South Carolina, Tropical Storm Hermine Forms Ricreig   Mon Aug 30 2004 08:08 AM
. * * Re: Gaston Landfalls in South Carolina, Tropical Storm Hermine Forms Wxwatcher2   Mon Aug 30 2004 08:16 AM
. * * Re: Gaston Landfalls in South Carolina, Tropical Storm Hermine Forms Ricreig   Mon Aug 30 2004 08:23 AM
. * * Re: Gaston Landfalls in South Carolina, Tropical Storm Hermine Forms Keith234   Mon Aug 30 2004 08:36 AM
. * * Re: Gaston Landfalls in South Carolina, Tropical Storm Hermine Forms Tom-OrmondBch   Mon Aug 30 2004 08:31 AM
. * * Re: Gaston Landfalls in South Carolina, Tropical Storm Hermine Forms Ricreig   Mon Aug 30 2004 08:38 AM
. * * Re: Gaston Landfalls in South Carolina, Tropical Storm Hermine Forms Keith234   Mon Aug 30 2004 08:40 AM
. * * Re: Gaston Landfalls in South Carolina, Tropical Storm Hermine Forms Ricreig   Mon Aug 30 2004 08:52 AM
. * * Re: Gaston Landfalls in South Carolina, Tropical Storm Hermine Forms Ed in Va   Mon Aug 30 2004 08:45 AM
. * * Re: Frances track doug   Mon Aug 30 2004 09:05 AM
. * * Re: Frances track Ricreig   Mon Aug 30 2004 10:21 AM
. * * Re: Frances track Floridacane   Mon Aug 30 2004 10:41 AM
. * * Re: Frances track hankie   Mon Aug 30 2004 10:50 AM
. * * Re: Frances track SkeetoBiteAdministrator   Mon Aug 30 2004 01:30 PM
. * * Re: Frances track Ricreig   Mon Aug 30 2004 11:02 AM
. * * Re: Frances track Rabbit   Mon Aug 30 2004 11:11 AM
. * * Re: Frances track recmod   Mon Aug 30 2004 11:29 AM
. * * Re: Frances track-GFDL model doug   Mon Aug 30 2004 02:01 PM
. * * Re: Frances track Ricreig   Mon Aug 30 2004 11:44 AM
. * * Re: Frances track Redbird   Mon Aug 30 2004 11:53 AM
. * * Re: Frances track Wxwatcher2   Mon Aug 30 2004 12:30 PM
. * * Hermine Keith234   Mon Aug 30 2004 12:42 PM
. * * Surf's Up dudes... LI Phil   Mon Aug 30 2004 12:53 PM
. * * Frances' Path & Intensity + "Alarmists" Comment Colleen A.   Mon Aug 30 2004 02:32 PM
. * * Re: Frances' Path & Intensity + "Alarmists" Comment GuppieGrouper   Mon Aug 30 2004 02:47 PM
. * * Re: Frances' Path & Intensity + "Alarmists" Comment CAPE CORAL   Mon Aug 30 2004 03:15 PM
. * * Re: Frances' Path & Intensity + "Alarmists" Comment HCW   Mon Aug 30 2004 03:32 PM
. * * Re: Frances' Path & Intensity + "Alarmists" Comment Rabbit   Mon Aug 30 2004 03:50 PM
. * * NEW THREAD LI Phil   Mon Aug 30 2004 03:54 PM
. * * Re: Frances' Path & Intensity + "Alarmists" Comment Redbird   Mon Aug 30 2004 02:42 PM
. * * Re: Frances' Path & Intensity + "Alarmists" Comment Frank P   Mon Aug 30 2004 02:40 PM
. * * Re: Surf's Up dudes... joepub1   Mon Aug 30 2004 01:18 PM
. * * Re: Surf's Up dudes... Redbird   Mon Aug 30 2004 01:21 PM
. * * Re: Surf's Up dudes... troy2   Mon Aug 30 2004 01:26 PM
. * * 18Z GFS joepub1   Mon Aug 30 2004 01:38 PM
. * * Re: 18Z GFS Redbird   Mon Aug 30 2004 01:40 PM
. * * Re: 18Z GFS ShaggyDude   Mon Aug 30 2004 01:52 PM
. * * Re: Surf's Up dudes... LI Phil   Mon Aug 30 2004 01:29 PM
. * * Re: Surf's Up dudes... BillD   Mon Aug 30 2004 02:31 PM
. * * Re: Surf's Up dudes...GFS Track doug   Mon Aug 30 2004 01:47 PM
. * * Re: Surf's Up dudes...GFS Track Redbird   Mon Aug 30 2004 01:54 PM
. * * Re: Surf's Up dudes...GFS Track alan   Mon Aug 30 2004 01:52 PM
. * * Re: Surf's Up dudes... GuppieGrouper   Mon Aug 30 2004 01:44 PM
. * * Re: Surf's Up dudes... joepub1   Mon Aug 30 2004 02:01 PM
. * * Re: Surf's Up dudes... Redbird   Mon Aug 30 2004 02:12 PM
. * * Re: Surf's Up dudes... joepub1   Mon Aug 30 2004 02:33 PM
. * * Re: Surf's Up dudes... rmbjoe1954   Mon Aug 30 2004 02:37 PM
. * * Re: Surf's Up dudes... Rasvar   Mon Aug 30 2004 02:39 PM
. * * Re: Surf's Up dudes... Redbird   Mon Aug 30 2004 02:36 PM
. * * Re: Surf's Up dudes... GuppieGrouper   Mon Aug 30 2004 02:22 PM
. * * Re: Surf's Up dudes... LI Phil   Mon Aug 30 2004 02:05 PM
. * * Re: Surf's Up dudes... Allison   Mon Aug 30 2004 03:09 PM
. * * Re: Surf's Up dudes... Redbird   Mon Aug 30 2004 01:46 PM
. * * Re: Surf's Up dudes... ShaggyDude   Mon Aug 30 2004 01:25 PM
. * * Re: Surf's Up dudes... Redbird   Mon Aug 30 2004 01:35 PM
. * * Re: Frances track Redbird   Mon Aug 30 2004 12:37 PM
. * * Re: Frances track scottsvb1   Mon Aug 30 2004 11:25 AM
. * * Re: Frances track Redbird   Mon Aug 30 2004 11:05 AM
. * * Re: Frances track Ricreig   Mon Aug 30 2004 11:24 AM
. * * Re: Frances track Hurric   Mon Aug 30 2004 12:09 PM
. * * Re: Frances track RICHIE AT WORK   Mon Aug 30 2004 01:29 PM
. * * Re: Frances track Redbird   Mon Aug 30 2004 12:14 PM
. * * Re: Frances track Redbird   Mon Aug 30 2004 11:30 AM
. * * Re: Frances track Cane Watcher   Mon Aug 30 2004 11:37 AM
. * * 97L Keith234   Mon Aug 30 2004 11:43 AM
. * * Re: 97L Rabbit   Mon Aug 30 2004 11:49 AM
. * * Re: 97L Keith234   Mon Aug 30 2004 12:04 PM
. * * Re: 97L Rabbit   Mon Aug 30 2004 12:07 PM
. * * Re: 97L jbcmh81   Mon Aug 30 2004 01:57 PM
. * * Re: 97L troy2   Mon Aug 30 2004 02:00 PM
. * * Re: 97L Redbird   Mon Aug 30 2004 02:04 PM
. * * Re: 97L RICHIE AT WORK   Mon Aug 30 2004 02:04 PM
. * * Re: 97L Redbird   Mon Aug 30 2004 02:06 PM
. * * Models On Frances rmbjoe1954   Mon Aug 30 2004 02:27 PM
. * * Re: 97L ShaggyDude   Mon Aug 30 2004 12:08 PM
. * * Frances Rabbit   Mon Aug 30 2004 11:43 AM
. * * Re: Frances track Ed in Va   Mon Aug 30 2004 11:42 AM
. * * Re: Frances track Larry   Mon Aug 30 2004 12:10 PM
. * * Re: Frances track doug   Mon Aug 30 2004 10:55 AM
. * * Re: Frances track Rasvar   Mon Aug 30 2004 10:54 AM
. * * Re: Frances track Redbird   Mon Aug 30 2004 10:56 AM
. * * Re: Frances track LI Phil   Mon Aug 30 2004 10:56 AM
. * * Re: Frances track ShaggyDude   Mon Aug 30 2004 10:39 AM
. * * Gaston Rabbit   Mon Aug 30 2004 10:45 AM
. * * Re: Gaston Rabbit   Mon Aug 30 2004 10:51 AM
. * * Re: Gaston Ricreig   Mon Aug 30 2004 10:59 AM
. * * Re: Frances track Ricreig   Mon Aug 30 2004 09:14 AM
. * * models Rabbit   Mon Aug 30 2004 09:53 AM
. * * Re: models Ricreig   Mon Aug 30 2004 09:59 AM
. * * Re: models rmbjoe1954   Mon Aug 30 2004 09:57 AM
. * * Re: models jth   Mon Aug 30 2004 10:01 AM
. * * Re: models melissa   Mon Aug 30 2004 10:15 AM
. * * Re: models ShaggyDude   Mon Aug 30 2004 09:56 AM
. * * Re: Frances track GuppieGrouper   Mon Aug 30 2004 09:49 AM
. * * Re: Frances track rmbjoe1954   Mon Aug 30 2004 09:51 AM
. * * Re: Gaston Landfalls in South Carolina, Tropical Storm Hermine Forms meto   Sun Aug 29 2004 10:46 PM
. * * Re: Gaston Landfalls in South Carolina, Tropical Storm Hermine Forms Ricreig   Sun Aug 29 2004 11:04 PM
. * * Re: Gaston Landfalls in South Carolina, Tropical Storm Hermine Forms alan   Sun Aug 29 2004 11:02 PM
. * * Re: Gaston Landfalls in South Carolina, Tropical Storm Hermine Forms danielwAdministrator   Sun Aug 29 2004 11:10 PM
. * * Re: Gaston Landfalls in South Carolina, Tropical Storm Hermine Forms Lake Toho   Sun Aug 29 2004 11:06 PM
. * * Re: Gaston Landfalls in South Carolina, Tropical Storm Hermine Forms Lake Toho   Sun Aug 29 2004 11:12 PM
. * * Re: From the 11pm discussion danielwAdministrator   Sun Aug 29 2004 11:17 PM
. * * Re: Gaston Landfalls in South Carolina, Tropical Storm Hermine Forms Lake Toho   Sun Aug 29 2004 11:16 PM
. * * Re: Gaston Landfalls in South Carolina, Tropical Storm Hermine Forms Ricreig   Sun Aug 29 2004 11:27 PM
. * * Re: Gaston Landfalls in South Carolina, Tropical Storm Hermine Forms et1516   Sun Aug 29 2004 11:30 PM
. * * Re: Gaston Landfalls in South Carolina, Tropical Storm Hermine Forms et1516   Sun Aug 29 2004 11:33 PM
. * * NOGAPS Robert   Sun Aug 29 2004 11:22 PM
. * * Re: Gaston Landfalls in South Carolina, Tropical Storm Hermine Forms alan   Sun Aug 29 2004 11:09 PM
. * * Re: TWC danielwAdministrator   Sun Aug 29 2004 10:50 PM
. * * Models use of history ConcernedinMiami   Sun Aug 29 2004 09:34 PM
. * * Feedback RedingtonBeachGuy   Sun Aug 29 2004 10:22 PM
. * * Re: Feedback Steve   Sun Aug 29 2004 10:41 PM
. * * Re: Feedback AgentB   Sun Aug 29 2004 10:38 PM
. * * Re: Feedback S. Hirschb.   Sun Aug 29 2004 10:55 PM
. * * Re: Feedback Dennis S   Sun Aug 29 2004 10:38 PM
. * * Official NWS Forecasts WXMAN RICHIE   Sun Aug 29 2004 10:40 PM
. * * Re: FL Swath danielwAdministrator   Sun Aug 29 2004 10:29 PM
. * * Re: FL Swath Ricreig   Sun Aug 29 2004 10:37 PM
. * * Re: Models use of history Keith234   Sun Aug 29 2004 09:45 PM
. * * Re: Models use of history Floridacane   Sun Aug 29 2004 10:00 PM
. * * Re: Models use of history WXMAN RICHIE   Sun Aug 29 2004 10:10 PM
. * * Re: Models use of history Floridacane   Sun Aug 29 2004 10:14 PM
. * * Re: Models use of history Ricreig   Sun Aug 29 2004 11:11 PM
. * * Re: Models use of history Ricreig   Sun Aug 29 2004 11:35 PM
. * * Re: Models use of history BillD   Sun Aug 29 2004 11:41 PM
. * * Re: Models use of history Ricreig   Mon Aug 30 2004 06:55 AM
. * * Re: Models use of history Jeffmidtown   Mon Aug 30 2004 01:05 AM
. * * Re: Recon Update danielwAdministrator   Mon Aug 30 2004 06:50 AM
. * * Re: Recon Update summercyclone   Mon Aug 30 2004 07:43 AM
. * * Re: Recon Update Keith234   Mon Aug 30 2004 08:02 AM
. * * Lest we forget... Ricreig   Mon Aug 30 2004 07:25 AM
. * * Re: Lest we forget... LONNY307   Mon Aug 30 2004 07:43 AM
. * * Re: Model Update danielwAdministrator   Mon Aug 30 2004 01:00 AM
. * * Re: Models use of history Ricreig   Sun Aug 29 2004 10:31 PM
. * * West Gulf! SoonerShawn   Sun Aug 29 2004 10:38 PM
. * * Re: West Gulf! danielwAdministrator   Sun Aug 29 2004 10:47 PM
. * * Re: West Gulf! Ricreig   Sun Aug 29 2004 10:44 PM
. * * Re: Models use of history ShaggyDude   Sun Aug 29 2004 10:35 PM
. * * Re: Models use of history Ricreig   Sun Aug 29 2004 09:55 PM
. * * Frances WXMAN RICHIE   Sun Aug 29 2004 09:42 PM
. * * Re: Models use of history Lake Toho   Sun Aug 29 2004 09:40 PM
. * * Re: Gaston Landfalls in South Carolina, Tropical Storm Hermine Forms MikeG   Sun Aug 29 2004 07:24 PM
. * * Re: Gaston Landfalls in South Carolina, Tropical Storm Hermine Forms BillD   Sun Aug 29 2004 07:35 PM
. * * Re: Gaston Landfalls in South Carolina, Tropical Storm Hermine Forms Lake Toho - Kissimmee   Sun Aug 29 2004 07:29 PM
. * * Re: Gaston Landfalls in South Carolina, Tropical Storm Hermine Forms Redbird   Sun Aug 29 2004 07:32 PM
. * * Re: Gaston Landfalls in South Carolina, Tropical Storm Hermine Forms Lake Toho - Kissimmee   Sun Aug 29 2004 07:36 PM
. * * Re: Gaston Landfalls in South Carolina, Tropical Storm Hermine Forms redbird   Sun Aug 29 2004 07:38 PM
. * * Re: Gaston Landfalls in South Carolina, Tropical Storm Hermine Forms ShaggyDude   Sun Aug 29 2004 07:48 PM
. * * Re: Gaston Landfalls in South Carolina, Tropical Storm Hermine Forms Lake Toho - Kissimmee   Sun Aug 29 2004 08:03 PM
. * * triad on the 29th HanKFranK   Sun Aug 29 2004 08:35 PM
. * * Re: triad on the 29th Ricreig   Sun Aug 29 2004 08:55 PM
. * * Re: triad on the 29th alan   Sun Aug 29 2004 09:00 PM
. * * Re: triad on the 29th Ricreig   Sun Aug 29 2004 09:15 PM
. * * Re: FL Swath danielwAdministrator   Sun Aug 29 2004 09:12 PM
. * * Re: FL Swath Floridacane   Sun Aug 29 2004 09:16 PM
. * * Re: FL Swath Ricreig   Sun Aug 29 2004 09:45 PM
. * * Re: FL Swath danielwAdministrator   Sun Aug 29 2004 09:25 PM
. * * Re: Frances danielwAdministrator   Sun Aug 29 2004 09:56 PM
. * * Re: FL Swath Redbird   Sun Aug 29 2004 09:38 PM
. * * Re: FL Swath ShaggyDude   Sun Aug 29 2004 09:34 PM
. * * Re: FL Swath Keith234   Sun Aug 29 2004 09:33 PM
. * * Re: FL Swath Floridacane   Sun Aug 29 2004 10:06 PM
. * * Re: FL Swath h2ocean   Sun Aug 29 2004 10:21 PM
. * * Frances' Wobbles rmbjoe1954   Sun Aug 29 2004 08:10 PM
. * * Re: Frances' Wobbles ShaggyDude   Sun Aug 29 2004 08:19 PM
. * * Re: Frances' Wobbles Ricreig   Sun Aug 29 2004 08:24 PM
. * * Re: Frances' Wobbles BabyCat   Sun Aug 29 2004 08:34 PM
. * * Re: Frances' Wobbles BillD   Sun Aug 29 2004 08:31 PM
. * * Re: Frances' Wobbles Ricreig   Sun Aug 29 2004 08:39 PM
. * * Re: Frances' Wobbles MikeG   Sun Aug 29 2004 08:24 PM
. * * Recon MikeG   Sun Aug 29 2004 07:31 PM
. * * Re: Gaston Landfalls in South Carolina, Tropical Storm Hermine Forms Storm Cooper   Sun Aug 29 2004 07:27 PM

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