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Frances' Path & Intensity + "Alarmists" Comment
      Mon Aug 30 2004 06:32 PM

Just wanted to post a few personal observations after riding out Hurricane Charley in Central Florida (Polk County) -- in which we were extremely lucky that we (my family) did not take the brunt of Charley.

As we all learned, the models can all be in the same general direction and for the most part, most of them were only about 70 miles off as to where landfall would occur. The only one that wasn't was the correct one -- the one that took it right into Ft. Myers/Punta Gorda/Port Charlotte. I don't think anybody believed at that point that we could go from a Cat 2 to Cat 4 just before landfall, but it happened. My county is still trying to recover from Charley, and we didn't even take the brunt of the 145mph winds.

We often hear this from the forecasters: "don't just look at the red line because there is a margin of error and it could hit anywhere in between that cone". I never paid much attention to that warning until Charley. Now I take it a lot more serious than I ever did. A 100 miles to the right or to the left of that track makes a huge difference, and here in Florida we learned that on August 13th. As for instensity, they now have it as a Cat IV on Sunday/Monday morning and I'm not sure if they are even speculating as to what may happen when it crosses the very warm gulfstream waters. Also, if it does make a southeast Florida landfall (and I'm not saying it will) we have to take into consideration the Okechobee River. That is a HUGE body of water which would allow Frances to keep her instensity as it crosses the state/goes up the state, whichever happens. If it missed the Okechobee river to the left or to the right, we would still be looking at a very damaging hurricane upon landfall; if it crosses right across the middle, we could be looking at a Cat 4 or 5 as it makes it's way up/across the state of Florida, which would cause catastrophic damage for the entire state.

Am I being an alarmist? Absolutely not. I am looking at what happened with Charley. Charley crossed the state with 100mph winds and some people have nothing left. And THAT was what happened to the INLAND counties, and here in Polk County ALONE we have $700 million of damage. Charley woke us up, Frances might be a nightmare. There is absolutely nothing wrong with being prepared for a possible hit from Frances; actually, if you live along the eastern seaboard and are NOT prepared, it's pretty irresponsible. The NHC can only prepare you; state and local officials can order evacuations; but when it comes right down to it, YOU and you alone are responsible for protecting yourself, your family and your property.

Now...on to the models. Tampa Bays ABC Action New Channel 28 weather gal talked to one of the forecasters from the NHC during the 12 noon newscast. When asked when we could start REALLY looking at the possibility of whether or not we will get a direct hit, he said "Wednesday is going to be a very important day as to what we believe will happen with Frances, and all residents along the southeastern coast, especially Florida, really need to keep tuned in this whole week, especially from Wednesday on."

That comment came directly from the horse's mouth. Believe me, I DO NOT want to experience another hurricane at all. But that doesn't mean I can just ignore it and pretend it isn't out there.

That being said, I have put in an urgent request to Mother Nature to PLEASE kick Frances out to the N/NE; I'll let you know when she gets back with me. Probably around the same time I see the pigs flying across my backyard.

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* Gaston Landfalls in South Carolina, Tropical Storm Hermine Forms MikeCAdministrator Mon Aug 30 2004 06:32 PM
. * * Re: Gaston Landfalls in South Carolina, Tropical Storm Hermine Forms delta   Mon Aug 30 2004 07:26 PM
. * * Re: Gaston Landfalls in South Carolina, Tropical Storm Hermine Forms delta   Mon Aug 30 2004 05:41 PM
. * * Link to current conditions in Antigua Cocoa Beach   Mon Aug 30 2004 03:35 PM
. * * Got one of my gut feelings right. Cocoa Beach   Mon Aug 30 2004 02:18 PM
. * * Re: Gaston Landfalls in South Carolina, Tropical Storm Hermine Forms Ricreig   Mon Aug 30 2004 11:46 AM
. * * Re: Gaston Landfalls in South Carolina, Tropical Storm Hermine Forms JustMe   Mon Aug 30 2004 11:58 AM
. * * Re: Gaston Landfalls in South Carolina, Tropical Storm Hermine Forms Ricreig   Mon Aug 30 2004 12:08 PM
. * * Re: Gaston Landfalls in South Carolina, Tropical Storm Hermine Forms Wxwatcher2   Mon Aug 30 2004 12:16 PM
. * * Re: Gaston Landfalls in South Carolina, Tropical Storm Hermine Forms Ricreig   Mon Aug 30 2004 12:23 PM
. * * Re: Gaston Landfalls in South Carolina, Tropical Storm Hermine Forms Keith234   Mon Aug 30 2004 12:36 PM
. * * Re: Gaston Landfalls in South Carolina, Tropical Storm Hermine Forms Tom-OrmondBch   Mon Aug 30 2004 12:31 PM
. * * Re: Gaston Landfalls in South Carolina, Tropical Storm Hermine Forms Ricreig   Mon Aug 30 2004 12:38 PM
. * * Re: Gaston Landfalls in South Carolina, Tropical Storm Hermine Forms Keith234   Mon Aug 30 2004 12:40 PM
. * * Re: Gaston Landfalls in South Carolina, Tropical Storm Hermine Forms Ricreig   Mon Aug 30 2004 12:52 PM
. * * Re: Gaston Landfalls in South Carolina, Tropical Storm Hermine Forms Ed in Va   Mon Aug 30 2004 12:45 PM
. * * Re: Frances track doug   Mon Aug 30 2004 01:05 PM
. * * Re: Frances track Ricreig   Mon Aug 30 2004 02:21 PM
. * * Re: Frances track Floridacane   Mon Aug 30 2004 02:41 PM
. * * Re: Frances track hankie   Mon Aug 30 2004 02:50 PM
. * * Re: Frances track SkeetoBiteAdministrator   Mon Aug 30 2004 05:30 PM
. * * Re: Frances track Ricreig   Mon Aug 30 2004 03:02 PM
. * * Re: Frances track Rabbit   Mon Aug 30 2004 03:11 PM
. * * Re: Frances track recmod   Mon Aug 30 2004 03:29 PM
. * * Re: Frances track-GFDL model doug   Mon Aug 30 2004 06:01 PM
. * * Re: Frances track Ricreig   Mon Aug 30 2004 03:44 PM
. * * Re: Frances track Redbird   Mon Aug 30 2004 03:53 PM
. * * Re: Frances track Wxwatcher2   Mon Aug 30 2004 04:30 PM
. * * Hermine Keith234   Mon Aug 30 2004 04:42 PM
. * * Surf's Up dudes... LI Phil   Mon Aug 30 2004 04:53 PM
. * * Frances' Path & Intensity + "Alarmists" Comment Colleen A.   Mon Aug 30 2004 06:32 PM
. * * Re: Frances' Path & Intensity + "Alarmists" Comment GuppieGrouper   Mon Aug 30 2004 06:47 PM
. * * Re: Frances' Path & Intensity + "Alarmists" Comment CAPE CORAL   Mon Aug 30 2004 07:15 PM
. * * Re: Frances' Path & Intensity + "Alarmists" Comment HCW   Mon Aug 30 2004 07:32 PM
. * * Re: Frances' Path & Intensity + "Alarmists" Comment Rabbit   Mon Aug 30 2004 07:50 PM
. * * NEW THREAD LI Phil   Mon Aug 30 2004 07:54 PM
. * * Re: Frances' Path & Intensity + "Alarmists" Comment Redbird   Mon Aug 30 2004 06:42 PM
. * * Re: Frances' Path & Intensity + "Alarmists" Comment Frank P   Mon Aug 30 2004 06:40 PM
. * * Re: Surf's Up dudes... joepub1   Mon Aug 30 2004 05:18 PM
. * * Re: Surf's Up dudes... Redbird   Mon Aug 30 2004 05:21 PM
. * * Re: Surf's Up dudes... troy2   Mon Aug 30 2004 05:26 PM
. * * 18Z GFS joepub1   Mon Aug 30 2004 05:38 PM
. * * Re: 18Z GFS Redbird   Mon Aug 30 2004 05:40 PM
. * * Re: 18Z GFS ShaggyDude   Mon Aug 30 2004 05:52 PM
. * * Re: Surf's Up dudes... LI Phil   Mon Aug 30 2004 05:29 PM
. * * Re: Surf's Up dudes... BillD   Mon Aug 30 2004 06:31 PM
. * * Re: Surf's Up dudes...GFS Track doug   Mon Aug 30 2004 05:47 PM
. * * Re: Surf's Up dudes...GFS Track Redbird   Mon Aug 30 2004 05:54 PM
. * * Re: Surf's Up dudes...GFS Track alan   Mon Aug 30 2004 05:52 PM
. * * Re: Surf's Up dudes... GuppieGrouper   Mon Aug 30 2004 05:44 PM
. * * Re: Surf's Up dudes... joepub1   Mon Aug 30 2004 06:01 PM
. * * Re: Surf's Up dudes... Redbird   Mon Aug 30 2004 06:12 PM
. * * Re: Surf's Up dudes... joepub1   Mon Aug 30 2004 06:33 PM
. * * Re: Surf's Up dudes... rmbjoe1954   Mon Aug 30 2004 06:37 PM
. * * Re: Surf's Up dudes... Rasvar   Mon Aug 30 2004 06:39 PM
. * * Re: Surf's Up dudes... Redbird   Mon Aug 30 2004 06:36 PM
. * * Re: Surf's Up dudes... GuppieGrouper   Mon Aug 30 2004 06:22 PM
. * * Re: Surf's Up dudes... LI Phil   Mon Aug 30 2004 06:05 PM
. * * Re: Surf's Up dudes... Allison   Mon Aug 30 2004 07:09 PM
. * * Re: Surf's Up dudes... Redbird   Mon Aug 30 2004 05:46 PM
. * * Re: Surf's Up dudes... ShaggyDude   Mon Aug 30 2004 05:25 PM
. * * Re: Surf's Up dudes... Redbird   Mon Aug 30 2004 05:35 PM
. * * Re: Frances track Redbird   Mon Aug 30 2004 04:37 PM
. * * Re: Frances track scottsvb1   Mon Aug 30 2004 03:25 PM
. * * Re: Frances track Redbird   Mon Aug 30 2004 03:05 PM
. * * Re: Frances track Ricreig   Mon Aug 30 2004 03:24 PM
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. * * Re: Frances track RICHIE AT WORK   Mon Aug 30 2004 05:29 PM
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. * * Re: Frances track Cane Watcher   Mon Aug 30 2004 03:37 PM
. * * 97L Keith234   Mon Aug 30 2004 03:43 PM
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. * * Re: 97L jbcmh81   Mon Aug 30 2004 05:57 PM
. * * Re: 97L troy2   Mon Aug 30 2004 06:00 PM
. * * Re: 97L Redbird   Mon Aug 30 2004 06:04 PM
. * * Re: 97L RICHIE AT WORK   Mon Aug 30 2004 06:04 PM
. * * Re: 97L Redbird   Mon Aug 30 2004 06:06 PM
. * * Models On Frances rmbjoe1954   Mon Aug 30 2004 06:27 PM
. * * Re: 97L ShaggyDude   Mon Aug 30 2004 04:08 PM
. * * Frances Rabbit   Mon Aug 30 2004 03:43 PM
. * * Re: Frances track Ed in Va   Mon Aug 30 2004 03:42 PM
. * * Re: Frances track Larry   Mon Aug 30 2004 04:10 PM
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. * * Re: Frances track Rasvar   Mon Aug 30 2004 02:54 PM
. * * Re: Frances track Redbird   Mon Aug 30 2004 02:56 PM
. * * Re: Frances track LI Phil   Mon Aug 30 2004 02:56 PM
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. * * Gaston Rabbit   Mon Aug 30 2004 02:45 PM
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. * * Re: Frances track Ricreig   Mon Aug 30 2004 01:14 PM
. * * models Rabbit   Mon Aug 30 2004 01:53 PM
. * * Re: models Ricreig   Mon Aug 30 2004 01:59 PM
. * * Re: models rmbjoe1954   Mon Aug 30 2004 01:57 PM
. * * Re: models jth   Mon Aug 30 2004 02:01 PM
. * * Re: models melissa   Mon Aug 30 2004 02:15 PM
. * * Re: models ShaggyDude   Mon Aug 30 2004 01:56 PM
. * * Re: Frances track GuppieGrouper   Mon Aug 30 2004 01:49 PM
. * * Re: Frances track rmbjoe1954   Mon Aug 30 2004 01:51 PM
. * * Re: Gaston Landfalls in South Carolina, Tropical Storm Hermine Forms meto   Mon Aug 30 2004 02:46 AM
. * * Re: Gaston Landfalls in South Carolina, Tropical Storm Hermine Forms Ricreig   Mon Aug 30 2004 03:04 AM
. * * Re: Gaston Landfalls in South Carolina, Tropical Storm Hermine Forms alan   Mon Aug 30 2004 03:02 AM
. * * Re: Gaston Landfalls in South Carolina, Tropical Storm Hermine Forms danielwAdministrator   Mon Aug 30 2004 03:10 AM
. * * Re: Gaston Landfalls in South Carolina, Tropical Storm Hermine Forms Lake Toho   Mon Aug 30 2004 03:06 AM
. * * Re: Gaston Landfalls in South Carolina, Tropical Storm Hermine Forms Lake Toho   Mon Aug 30 2004 03:12 AM
. * * Re: From the 11pm discussion danielwAdministrator   Mon Aug 30 2004 03:17 AM
. * * Re: Gaston Landfalls in South Carolina, Tropical Storm Hermine Forms Lake Toho   Mon Aug 30 2004 03:16 AM
. * * Re: Gaston Landfalls in South Carolina, Tropical Storm Hermine Forms Ricreig   Mon Aug 30 2004 03:27 AM
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. * * Re: Gaston Landfalls in South Carolina, Tropical Storm Hermine Forms et1516   Mon Aug 30 2004 03:33 AM
. * * NOGAPS Robert   Mon Aug 30 2004 03:22 AM
. * * Re: Gaston Landfalls in South Carolina, Tropical Storm Hermine Forms alan   Mon Aug 30 2004 03:09 AM
. * * Re: TWC danielwAdministrator   Mon Aug 30 2004 02:50 AM
. * * Models use of history ConcernedinMiami   Mon Aug 30 2004 01:34 AM
. * * Feedback RedingtonBeachGuy   Mon Aug 30 2004 02:22 AM
. * * Re: Feedback Steve   Mon Aug 30 2004 02:41 AM
. * * Re: Feedback AgentB   Mon Aug 30 2004 02:38 AM
. * * Re: Feedback S. Hirschb.   Mon Aug 30 2004 02:55 AM
. * * Re: Feedback Dennis S   Mon Aug 30 2004 02:38 AM
. * * Official NWS Forecasts WXMAN RICHIE   Mon Aug 30 2004 02:40 AM
. * * Re: FL Swath danielwAdministrator   Mon Aug 30 2004 02:29 AM
. * * Re: FL Swath Ricreig   Mon Aug 30 2004 02:37 AM
. * * Re: Models use of history Keith234   Mon Aug 30 2004 01:45 AM
. * * Re: Models use of history Floridacane   Mon Aug 30 2004 02:00 AM
. * * Re: Models use of history WXMAN RICHIE   Mon Aug 30 2004 02:10 AM
. * * Re: Models use of history Floridacane   Mon Aug 30 2004 02:14 AM
. * * Re: Models use of history Ricreig   Mon Aug 30 2004 03:11 AM
. * * Re: Models use of history Ricreig   Mon Aug 30 2004 03:35 AM
. * * Re: Models use of history BillD   Mon Aug 30 2004 03:41 AM
. * * Re: Models use of history Ricreig   Mon Aug 30 2004 10:55 AM
. * * Re: Models use of history Jeffmidtown   Mon Aug 30 2004 05:05 AM
. * * Re: Recon Update danielwAdministrator   Mon Aug 30 2004 10:50 AM
. * * Re: Recon Update summercyclone   Mon Aug 30 2004 11:43 AM
. * * Re: Recon Update Keith234   Mon Aug 30 2004 12:02 PM
. * * Lest we forget... Ricreig   Mon Aug 30 2004 11:25 AM
. * * Re: Lest we forget... LONNY307   Mon Aug 30 2004 11:43 AM
. * * Re: Model Update danielwAdministrator   Mon Aug 30 2004 05:00 AM
. * * Re: Models use of history Ricreig   Mon Aug 30 2004 02:31 AM
. * * West Gulf! SoonerShawn   Mon Aug 30 2004 02:38 AM
. * * Re: West Gulf! danielwAdministrator   Mon Aug 30 2004 02:47 AM
. * * Re: West Gulf! Ricreig   Mon Aug 30 2004 02:44 AM
. * * Re: Models use of history ShaggyDude   Mon Aug 30 2004 02:35 AM
. * * Re: Models use of history Ricreig   Mon Aug 30 2004 01:55 AM
. * * Frances WXMAN RICHIE   Mon Aug 30 2004 01:42 AM
. * * Re: Models use of history Lake Toho   Mon Aug 30 2004 01:40 AM
. * * Re: Gaston Landfalls in South Carolina, Tropical Storm Hermine Forms MikeG   Sun Aug 29 2004 11:24 PM
. * * Re: Gaston Landfalls in South Carolina, Tropical Storm Hermine Forms BillD   Sun Aug 29 2004 11:35 PM
. * * Re: Gaston Landfalls in South Carolina, Tropical Storm Hermine Forms Lake Toho - Kissimmee   Sun Aug 29 2004 11:29 PM
. * * Re: Gaston Landfalls in South Carolina, Tropical Storm Hermine Forms Redbird   Sun Aug 29 2004 11:32 PM
. * * Re: Gaston Landfalls in South Carolina, Tropical Storm Hermine Forms Lake Toho - Kissimmee   Sun Aug 29 2004 11:36 PM
. * * Re: Gaston Landfalls in South Carolina, Tropical Storm Hermine Forms redbird   Sun Aug 29 2004 11:38 PM
. * * Re: Gaston Landfalls in South Carolina, Tropical Storm Hermine Forms ShaggyDude   Sun Aug 29 2004 11:48 PM
. * * Re: Gaston Landfalls in South Carolina, Tropical Storm Hermine Forms Lake Toho - Kissimmee   Mon Aug 30 2004 12:03 AM
. * * triad on the 29th HanKFranK   Mon Aug 30 2004 12:35 AM
. * * Re: triad on the 29th Ricreig   Mon Aug 30 2004 12:55 AM
. * * Re: triad on the 29th alan   Mon Aug 30 2004 01:00 AM
. * * Re: triad on the 29th Ricreig   Mon Aug 30 2004 01:15 AM
. * * Re: FL Swath danielwAdministrator   Mon Aug 30 2004 01:12 AM
. * * Re: FL Swath Floridacane   Mon Aug 30 2004 01:16 AM
. * * Re: FL Swath Ricreig   Mon Aug 30 2004 01:45 AM
. * * Re: FL Swath danielwAdministrator   Mon Aug 30 2004 01:25 AM
. * * Re: Frances danielwAdministrator   Mon Aug 30 2004 01:56 AM
. * * Re: FL Swath Redbird   Mon Aug 30 2004 01:38 AM
. * * Re: FL Swath ShaggyDude   Mon Aug 30 2004 01:34 AM
. * * Re: FL Swath Keith234   Mon Aug 30 2004 01:33 AM
. * * Re: FL Swath Floridacane   Mon Aug 30 2004 02:06 AM
. * * Re: FL Swath h2ocean   Mon Aug 30 2004 02:21 AM
. * * Frances' Wobbles rmbjoe1954   Mon Aug 30 2004 12:10 AM
. * * Re: Frances' Wobbles ShaggyDude   Mon Aug 30 2004 12:19 AM
. * * Re: Frances' Wobbles Ricreig   Mon Aug 30 2004 12:24 AM
. * * Re: Frances' Wobbles BabyCat   Mon Aug 30 2004 12:34 AM
. * * Re: Frances' Wobbles BillD   Mon Aug 30 2004 12:31 AM
. * * Re: Frances' Wobbles Ricreig   Mon Aug 30 2004 12:39 AM
. * * Re: Frances' Wobbles MikeG   Mon Aug 30 2004 12:24 AM
. * * Recon MikeG   Sun Aug 29 2004 11:31 PM
. * * Re: Gaston Landfalls in South Carolina, Tropical Storm Hermine Forms Storm Cooper   Sun Aug 29 2004 11:27 PM

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