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News Talkback >> 2004 News Talkbacks

WXMAN RICHIE
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      Thu Sep 02 2004 08:33 PM

According to our local tv station that just spoke to the hurricane center, the track will shift northward toward Melbourne at 11 pm. Also, here is the latest from my friend Thomas:

Once again I post this email due to numerous requests asking my opinion on our current tropical troubles.

Barely CAT 4 Frances wobbled right then back to the left due to eye wall reformation this afternoon. She is moving slower at around 9-10 mph on a WNW heading. Visible satellite imagery still shows a shrouded eye but I expect normal eyewall re-development in the next 12-18 hours. On the NHC Amateur Radio Net on 14.325 kc I'm hearing weather reports of sustained winds of in excess of 100 mph in the Bahama Islands.

Though we are still in for some circulation friction, track wobble, eyewall reformation, as well as strength fluctuation during the next 24 hours, I see no reason to change my forecasted landfall of between Palm Beach and Vero Beach as a strong CAT 4 on Saturday afternoon. A good storm chaser location will be the Hobe Sound-Port St. Lucie window BUT BE SAFE. As Frances tracks WNW towards the northern Tampa Bay area after landfall, I expect inland east central Florida to see a long period of 111-155 mph winds (CAT 3-4) and inland west central Florida 75-110 mph winds (CAT 1-2). I would also expect 10-20" of rainfall and numerous tornadoes. With most of the central peninsula saturated from yet another very wet summer I would expect extensive inland flooding problems. A second landfall of a CAT 1-2 Frances is also possible in the Florida panhandle or Mobile, AL.

Last but not least I do lower the chances of a Ft. Lauderdale-Miami landfall from 50% to 20% and a NW-N track turn missing Florida to the east from 1% to 20%.

Last but not least we now have tropical depression #7 east of the Windward Islands. Looking at satellite imagery it's already T.S. Ivan. My first impression of Ivan is of a track south of the Greater Antilles through the Caribbean Sea and a CAT 5 threat.

My .02 for today.

Routine disclaimer. As I've officially retired from space and atmospheric weather forecasting, confidence in my forecast of tropical cyclone path and intensity is lower, as I no longer pay for real time raw weather forecasting products.



Take Care,
Thomas F. Giella
Retired Space & Atmospheric Weather Forecaster
Plant City, FL

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* Hurricane Frances Still on Track TD#9 forms in Eastern Atlantic MikeCAdministrator Thu Sep 02 2004 08:33 PM
. * * Re: Hurricane Frances Still on Track TD#9 forms in Eastern Atlantic Robin   Thu Sep 02 2004 10:32 PM
. * * Winds down at 11pm Jamiewx   Thu Sep 02 2004 10:34 PM
. * * Re: Winds down at 11pm LI Phil   Thu Sep 02 2004 10:45 PM
. * * Re: Winds down at 11pm- correction Jamiewx   Thu Sep 02 2004 10:49 PM
. * * Re: Winds down at 11pm- correction Colleen A.   Thu Sep 02 2004 11:15 PM
. * * NEW THREAD! LI Phil   Thu Sep 02 2004 11:18 PM
. * * Re: Winds down at 11pm JaxBeachMan   Thu Sep 02 2004 10:48 PM
. * * Re: Winds down at 11pm LI Phil   Thu Sep 02 2004 10:54 PM
. * * Re: Winds down at 11pm RevUp   Thu Sep 02 2004 11:05 PM
. * * Re: Winds down at 11pm Wxwatcher2   Thu Sep 02 2004 11:14 PM
. * * Re: Winds down at 11pm HCW   Thu Sep 02 2004 10:36 PM
. * * Re: Models danielwAdministrator   Thu Sep 02 2004 10:50 PM
. * * Re: Winds down at 11pm Joe   Thu Sep 02 2004 10:45 PM
. * * Re: Winds down at 11pm Rabbit   Thu Sep 02 2004 10:39 PM
. * * Re: Hurricane Frances Still on Track TD#9 forms in Eastern Atlantic jiml9   Thu Sep 02 2004 08:56 PM
. * * Re: Hurricane Frances Still on Track TD#9 forms in Eastern Atlantic jimmy99   Thu Sep 02 2004 08:50 PM
. * * Re: Hurricane Frances Still on Track TD#9 forms in Eastern Atlantic 4192   Thu Sep 02 2004 07:38 PM
. * * Re: Hurricane Frances Still on Track TD#9 forms in Eastern Atlantic luki   Thu Sep 02 2004 07:44 PM
. * * Re: Hurricane Frances Still on Track TD#9 forms in Eastern Atlantic Hawdon Supreme   Thu Sep 02 2004 07:42 PM
. * * Re: Hurricane Frances Still on Track TD#9 forms in Eastern Atlantic Waiting   Thu Sep 02 2004 07:50 PM
. * * Re: Hurricane Frances Still on Track TD#9 forms in Eastern Atlantic *DELETED* Karen   Thu Sep 02 2004 08:40 PM
. * * Re: Hurricane Frances Still on Track TD#9 forms in Eastern Atlantic obshaz   Thu Sep 02 2004 08:56 PM
. * * Re: Hurricane Frances Still on Track TD#9 forms in Eastern Atlantic spook   Thu Sep 02 2004 09:01 PM
. * * Frances Colleen A.   Thu Sep 02 2004 09:54 PM
. * * Re: Frances Clark   Thu Sep 02 2004 10:05 PM
. * * Re: Frances recmod   Thu Sep 02 2004 10:01 PM
. * * Re: Frances SoonerShawn   Thu Sep 02 2004 10:00 PM
. * * Re: Frances RevUp   Thu Sep 02 2004 10:06 PM
. * * Re: Frances SoonerShawn   Thu Sep 02 2004 10:30 PM
. * * Re: Frances AmateurJohn   Thu Sep 02 2004 10:44 PM
. * * Re: Frances Bev   Thu Sep 02 2004 10:29 PM
. * * Re: Hurricane Frances Still on Track TD#9 forms in Eastern Atlantic obshaz   Thu Sep 02 2004 09:10 PM
. * * Re: Hurricane Frances Still on Track TD#9 forms in Eastern Atlantic bobbi/lois   Thu Sep 02 2004 08:54 PM
. * * Re: Hurricane Frances Still on Track TD#9 forms in Eastern Atlantic bell   Thu Sep 02 2004 08:57 PM
. * * Re: Hurricane Frances Still on Track TD#9 forms in Eastern Atlantic RevRandy   Thu Sep 02 2004 08:54 PM
. * * Lakeland taking down street lights... Londovir   Thu Sep 02 2004 08:50 PM
. * * Dumb newbie question about the new map and "red" and "blue" areas Hurricaned   Thu Sep 02 2004 07:15 PM
. * * Re: Dumb newbie question about the new map and "red" and "blue" areas SkeetoBiteAdministrator   Thu Sep 02 2004 08:08 PM
. * * Re: Dumb newbie question about the new map and "red" and "blue" areas ThirdRay   Thu Sep 02 2004 08:24 PM
. * * Updates WXMAN RICHIE   Thu Sep 02 2004 08:33 PM
. * * Re: Updates tony   Thu Sep 02 2004 08:57 PM
. * * Re: Updates BillD   Thu Sep 02 2004 09:05 PM
. * * Re: Dumb newbie question about the new map and "red" and "blue" areas jth   Thu Sep 02 2004 08:30 PM
. * * Re: Hurricane Frances Still on Track TD#9 forms in Eastern Atlantic mp3reed   Thu Sep 02 2004 07:08 PM
. * * Restore the sanity.. PLEASE!!!! dhcp   Thu Sep 02 2004 06:57 PM
. * * Re: Restore the sanity.. PLEASE!!!! Pam was in Vero   Thu Sep 02 2004 07:41 PM
. * * Re: Restore the sanity.. PLEASE!!!! Clark   Thu Sep 02 2004 07:51 PM
. * * Re: Restore the sanity.. PLEASE!!!! WeatherNLU   Thu Sep 02 2004 07:53 PM
. * * Re: Restore the sanity.. PLEASE!!!! Clark   Thu Sep 02 2004 08:07 PM
. * * Re: Restore the sanity.. PLEASE!!!! 4192   Thu Sep 02 2004 08:24 PM
. * * Re: Restore the sanity.. PLEASE!!!! 4192   Thu Sep 02 2004 07:58 PM
. * * Re: Restore the sanity.. PLEASE!!!! Cathy   Thu Sep 02 2004 07:20 PM
. * * Re: Restore the sanity.. PLEASE!!!! spook   Thu Sep 02 2004 07:05 PM
. * * Closer... more detail/cities/streets SkeetoBiteAdministrator   Thu Sep 02 2004 06:29 PM
. * * Re: Closer... more detail/cities/streets francois   Thu Sep 02 2004 06:42 PM
. * * Re: Closer... more detail/cities/streets Ricreig   Thu Sep 02 2004 11:51 PM
. * * NEW THREAD!!! LI Phil   Thu Sep 02 2004 11:56 PM
. * * Re: Closer... more detail/cities/streets SkeetoBiteAdministrator   Thu Sep 02 2004 06:53 PM
. * * Re: Closer... more detail/cities/streets francois   Thu Sep 02 2004 06:58 PM
. * * Re: Closer... more detail/cities/streets SkeetoBiteAdministrator   Thu Sep 02 2004 08:01 PM
. * * Re: Closer... more detail/cities/streets Ricreig   Fri Sep 03 2004 12:14 AM
. * * Sats... wxman007   Thu Sep 02 2004 06:44 PM
. * * Re: Sats... spook   Thu Sep 02 2004 06:51 PM
. * * Track WXMAN RICHIE   Thu Sep 02 2004 06:57 PM
. * * Re: Sats... wxman007   Thu Sep 02 2004 06:55 PM
. * * Re: Sats... WeatherNLU   Thu Sep 02 2004 07:30 PM
. * * Re: Sats... spook   Thu Sep 02 2004 07:47 PM
. * * Curfews WXMAN RICHIE   Thu Sep 02 2004 07:56 PM
. * * Re: Sats... MIAMIFL   Thu Sep 02 2004 07:33 PM
. * * Re: Sats... Hawdon Supreme   Thu Sep 02 2004 07:27 PM
. * * Re: Sats... Clark   Thu Sep 02 2004 07:45 PM
. * * Re: Sats... Hurricaned   Thu Sep 02 2004 07:50 PM
. * * Re: Sats... Clark   Thu Sep 02 2004 07:57 PM
. * * Re: Sats... unregistered   Thu Sep 02 2004 09:19 PM
. * * Re: Sats... jth   Thu Sep 02 2004 08:02 PM
. * * Re: Sats... jlauderdal   Thu Sep 02 2004 08:51 PM
. * * Re: Sats... GuppieGrouper   Thu Sep 02 2004 09:07 PM
. * * Re: Sats... RevUp   Thu Sep 02 2004 09:29 PM
. * * Re: Sats... kirdona   Thu Sep 02 2004 08:59 PM
. * * Re: Sats... jlauderdal   Thu Sep 02 2004 09:21 PM
. * * Reports from the Bahamas LI Phil   Thu Sep 02 2004 09:28 PM
. * * Re: Reports from the Bahamas cjzydeco   Thu Sep 02 2004 09:45 PM
. * * Re: Reports from the Bahamas SoonerShawn   Thu Sep 02 2004 09:51 PM
. * * Re: Reports from the Bahamas Jeffmidtown   Thu Sep 02 2004 09:32 PM
. * * Re: Sats... BillD   Thu Sep 02 2004 08:56 PM
. * * Re: Sats... doug   Thu Sep 02 2004 09:08 PM
. * * Re: Sats... cjzydeco   Thu Sep 02 2004 09:15 PM
. * * Re: Sats... doug   Thu Sep 02 2004 09:24 PM
. * * Re: Sats... spook   Thu Sep 02 2004 09:11 PM
. * * main board content HanKFranK   Thu Sep 02 2004 09:26 PM
. * * Definite west jog IMO Frank P   Thu Sep 02 2004 09:20 PM
. * * 8:43 vortex message Londovir   Thu Sep 02 2004 09:28 PM
. * * Re: 8:43 vortex message WeatherNLU   Thu Sep 02 2004 09:33 PM
. * * Re: 8:43 vortex message teal61   Thu Sep 02 2004 09:45 PM
. * * Really Starting To Wrap Up! SoonerShawn   Thu Sep 02 2004 09:41 PM
. * * Re: Really Starting To Wrap Up! danielwAdministrator   Thu Sep 02 2004 09:43 PM
. * * Re: Sats... doug   Thu Sep 02 2004 09:19 PM
. * * Re: Sats... BillD   Thu Sep 02 2004 09:33 PM
. * * Old Met Vet Nash Roberts Frank P   Thu Sep 02 2004 09:25 PM
. * * Re: Sats... LONNY307   Thu Sep 02 2004 09:18 PM
. * * Re: Sats... Jeffmidtown   Thu Sep 02 2004 09:18 PM
. * * Re: Sats... Bruce   Thu Sep 02 2004 09:14 PM
. * * Re: Sats... HCW   Thu Sep 02 2004 07:01 PM
. * * Re: Sats... TBAJE   Thu Sep 02 2004 06:52 PM
. * * Re: Sats... SOUTHFLAHAPPYGAL   Thu Sep 02 2004 06:58 PM
. * * Re: Sats... spook   Thu Sep 02 2004 06:50 PM
. * * Re: Sats... FlaRebel   Thu Sep 02 2004 06:49 PM
. * * Re: Closer... more detail/cities/streets FlaRebel   Thu Sep 02 2004 06:41 PM
. * * I find the Orlando information confusing! Hurricaned   Thu Sep 02 2004 06:07 PM
. * * Re: I find the Orlando information confusing! Clark   Thu Sep 02 2004 06:31 PM
. * * NHC Update... wxman007   Thu Sep 02 2004 06:33 PM
. * * Re: NHC Update... SOUTHFLAHAPPTGAL   Thu Sep 02 2004 06:40 PM
. * * Re: NHC Update... Ricreig   Thu Sep 02 2004 11:40 PM
. * * Re: NHC Update... SoonerShawn   Thu Sep 02 2004 06:36 PM
. * * Re: I find the Orlando information confusing! Bell   Thu Sep 02 2004 06:16 PM
. * * Re: I find the Orlando information confusing! BillD   Thu Sep 02 2004 06:37 PM
. * * Miami, poured for five minutes and sky was blue a minute later LoisCane   Thu Sep 02 2004 06:28 PM
. * * Re: Miami, poured for five minutes and sky was blue a minute later Hurricaned   Thu Sep 02 2004 06:45 PM
. * * Orlando outlook. Doombot!   Thu Sep 02 2004 06:49 PM
. * * Re: I find the Orlando information confusing! Cocoa Beach   Thu Sep 02 2004 06:12 PM
. * * Re: I find the Orlando information confusing! alan   Thu Sep 02 2004 06:10 PM
. * * Re: I find the Orlando information confusing! Hurricaned   Thu Sep 02 2004 06:12 PM
. * * Re: I find the Orlando information confusing! alan   Thu Sep 02 2004 06:18 PM
. * * frances get stuck HanKFranK   Thu Sep 02 2004 06:35 PM
. * * Re: I find the Orlando information confusing! spoo   Thu Sep 02 2004 06:26 PM
. * * Re: I find the Orlando information confusing! casps   Thu Sep 02 2004 06:09 PM
. * * Re: Hurricane Frances Still on Track TD#9 forms in Eastern Atlantic Tropic Mark   Thu Sep 02 2004 05:09 PM
. * * Re: Hurricane Frances Still on Track TD#9 forms in Eastern Atlantic AgentB   Thu Sep 02 2004 05:18 PM
. * * New Vortex wxman007   Thu Sep 02 2004 05:06 PM
. * * Re: New Vortex caneman   Thu Sep 02 2004 05:11 PM
. * * Re: Hurricane Frances Still on Track TD#9 forms in Eastern Atlantic Colleen A.   Thu Sep 02 2004 04:59 PM
. * * Re: Hurricane Frances Still on Track TD#9 forms in Eastern Atlantic Rabbit   Thu Sep 02 2004 04:58 PM
. * * Re: Hurricane Frances Still on Track TD#9 forms in Eastern Atlantic Colleen A.   Thu Sep 02 2004 05:06 PM
. * * Re: Hurricane Frances Still on Track TD#9 forms in Eastern Atlantic elcuco   Fri Sep 03 2004 01:19 PM
. * * Re: Hurricane Frances Still on Track TD#9 forms in Eastern Atlantic wxman007   Thu Sep 02 2004 05:10 PM
. * * Re: Hurricane Frances Still on Track TD#9 forms in Eastern Atlantic SoonerShawn   Thu Sep 02 2004 05:20 PM
. * * Re: Hurricane Frances Still on Track TD#9 forms in Eastern Atlantic LI Phil   Thu Sep 02 2004 05:25 PM
. * * Re: Hurricane Frances Still on Track TD#9 forms in Eastern Atlantic clyde w.   Thu Sep 02 2004 05:30 PM
. * * Re: Hurricane Frances Still on Track TD#9 forms in Eastern Atlantic BillD   Thu Sep 02 2004 05:57 PM
. * * Re: Hurricane Frances Still on Track TD#9 forms in Eastern Atlantic wxman007   Thu Sep 02 2004 06:00 PM
. * * Re: Hurricane Frances Still on Track TD#9 forms in Eastern Atlantic Chopper Davie   Thu Sep 02 2004 05:27 PM
. * * Re: Hurricane Frances Still on Track TD#9 forms in Eastern Atlantic Doombot!   Thu Sep 02 2004 05:28 PM
. * * Re: Hurricane Frances Still on Track TD#9 forms in Eastern Atlantic Chopper Davie   Thu Sep 02 2004 05:34 PM
. * * another 6 hours.... rickonboat   Thu Sep 02 2004 05:32 PM
. * * Re: another 6 hours.... Todd   Thu Sep 02 2004 05:55 PM
. * * San Salvador.... rickonboat   Thu Sep 02 2004 06:07 PM
. * * Re: another 6 hours.... LI Phil   Thu Sep 02 2004 06:02 PM
. * * Re: another 6 hours.... Todd   Thu Sep 02 2004 06:05 PM
. * * Re: another 6 hours.... SoonerShawn   Thu Sep 02 2004 06:10 PM
. * * Re: another 6 hours.... SirCane   Thu Sep 02 2004 06:31 PM
. * * Re: another 6 hours.... spook   Thu Sep 02 2004 06:22 PM
. * * Re: another 6 hours.... Rabbit   Thu Sep 02 2004 06:29 PM
. * * Re: another 6 hours.... Ricreig   Thu Sep 02 2004 11:32 PM
. * * Re: another 6 hours.... meto   Thu Sep 02 2004 08:51 PM
. * * Re: another 6 hours.... spook   Thu Sep 02 2004 06:40 PM
. * * Re: another 6 hours.... Karen   Thu Sep 02 2004 07:15 PM
. * * Re: another 6 hours.... spook   Thu Sep 02 2004 07:23 PM
. * * Re: another 6 hours.... AgentB   Thu Sep 02 2004 06:38 PM
. * * Re: another 6 hours.... SoonerShawn   Thu Sep 02 2004 06:42 PM
. * * Re: another 6 hours.... spook   Thu Sep 02 2004 06:31 PM
. * * Re: another 6 hours.... 52255225   Thu Sep 02 2004 06:31 PM
. * * Re: another 6 hours.... Todd   Thu Sep 02 2004 06:17 PM
. * * Re: another 6 hours.... LI Phil   Thu Sep 02 2004 05:35 PM
. * * New Eye Reformation? SoonerShawn   Thu Sep 02 2004 05:42 PM
. * * 5pm Advisory StormHound   Thu Sep 02 2004 05:37 PM
. * * Re: 5pm Advisory DroopGB31   Thu Sep 02 2004 05:47 PM
. * * Re: 5pm Advisory wxnole   Thu Sep 02 2004 07:57 PM
. * * Re: 5pm Advisory AgentB   Thu Sep 02 2004 08:11 PM
. * * Re: 5pm Advisory BillD   Thu Sep 02 2004 08:17 PM
. * * Re: 5pm Advisory spook   Thu Sep 02 2004 08:28 PM
. * * Re: 5pm Advisory wxman007   Thu Sep 02 2004 05:52 PM
. * * Re: 5pm Advisory spook   Thu Sep 02 2004 06:12 PM
. * * Re: another 6 hours.... 52255225   Thu Sep 02 2004 05:35 PM
. * * Lower wind speed at landfall? StormHound   Thu Sep 02 2004 05:34 PM
. * * Re: Lower wind speed at landfall? clyde w.   Thu Sep 02 2004 05:37 PM
. * * Re: Lower wind speed at landfall? StormHound   Thu Sep 02 2004 05:44 PM
. * * Re: Lower wind speed at landfall? casps   Thu Sep 02 2004 05:48 PM
. * * Re: Lower wind speed at landfall? LI Phil   Thu Sep 02 2004 05:55 PM
. * * Re: Lower wind speed at landfall? cas   Thu Sep 02 2004 05:57 PM
. * * Re: Lower wind speed at landfall? casps   Thu Sep 02 2004 06:00 PM
. * * Re: Hurricane Frances Still on Track TD#9 forms in Eastern Atlantic jth   Thu Sep 02 2004 05:01 PM
. * * Re: Hurricane Frances Still on Track TD#9 forms in Eastern Atlantic rich   Thu Sep 02 2004 04:57 PM

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