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Newly tagged Invest 91L in the Central American Gyre heading towards MX/TX, a slow and sprawling flood threat. Bahamas hybrid well E of FL 10%/30% odd and expected to track back to the W across FL or SE US this week.
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WXMAN RICHIE
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      Fri Sep 03 2004 12:33 AM

According to our local tv station that just spoke to the hurricane center, the track will shift northward toward Melbourne at 11 pm. Also, here is the latest from my friend Thomas:

Once again I post this email due to numerous requests asking my opinion on our current tropical troubles.

Barely CAT 4 Frances wobbled right then back to the left due to eye wall reformation this afternoon. She is moving slower at around 9-10 mph on a WNW heading. Visible satellite imagery still shows a shrouded eye but I expect normal eyewall re-development in the next 12-18 hours. On the NHC Amateur Radio Net on 14.325 kc I'm hearing weather reports of sustained winds of in excess of 100 mph in the Bahama Islands.

Though we are still in for some circulation friction, track wobble, eyewall reformation, as well as strength fluctuation during the next 24 hours, I see no reason to change my forecasted landfall of between Palm Beach and Vero Beach as a strong CAT 4 on Saturday afternoon. A good storm chaser location will be the Hobe Sound-Port St. Lucie window BUT BE SAFE. As Frances tracks WNW towards the northern Tampa Bay area after landfall, I expect inland east central Florida to see a long period of 111-155 mph winds (CAT 3-4) and inland west central Florida 75-110 mph winds (CAT 1-2). I would also expect 10-20" of rainfall and numerous tornadoes. With most of the central peninsula saturated from yet another very wet summer I would expect extensive inland flooding problems. A second landfall of a CAT 1-2 Frances is also possible in the Florida panhandle or Mobile, AL.

Last but not least I do lower the chances of a Ft. Lauderdale-Miami landfall from 50% to 20% and a NW-N track turn missing Florida to the east from 1% to 20%.

Last but not least we now have tropical depression #7 east of the Windward Islands. Looking at satellite imagery it's already T.S. Ivan. My first impression of Ivan is of a track south of the Greater Antilles through the Caribbean Sea and a CAT 5 threat.

My .02 for today.

Routine disclaimer. As I've officially retired from space and atmospheric weather forecasting, confidence in my forecast of tropical cyclone path and intensity is lower, as I no longer pay for real time raw weather forecasting products.



Take Care,
Thomas F. Giella
Retired Space & Atmospheric Weather Forecaster
Plant City, FL

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* Hurricane Frances Still on Track TD#9 forms in Eastern Atlantic MikeCAdministrator Fri Sep 03 2004 12:33 AM
. * * Re: Hurricane Frances Still on Track TD#9 forms in Eastern Atlantic Robin   Fri Sep 03 2004 02:32 AM
. * * Winds down at 11pm Jamiewx   Fri Sep 03 2004 02:34 AM
. * * Re: Winds down at 11pm LI Phil   Fri Sep 03 2004 02:45 AM
. * * Re: Winds down at 11pm- correction Jamiewx   Fri Sep 03 2004 02:49 AM
. * * Re: Winds down at 11pm- correction Colleen A.   Fri Sep 03 2004 03:15 AM
. * * NEW THREAD! LI Phil   Fri Sep 03 2004 03:18 AM
. * * Re: Winds down at 11pm JaxBeachMan   Fri Sep 03 2004 02:48 AM
. * * Re: Winds down at 11pm LI Phil   Fri Sep 03 2004 02:54 AM
. * * Re: Winds down at 11pm RevUp   Fri Sep 03 2004 03:05 AM
. * * Re: Winds down at 11pm Wxwatcher2   Fri Sep 03 2004 03:14 AM
. * * Re: Winds down at 11pm HCW   Fri Sep 03 2004 02:36 AM
. * * Re: Models danielwAdministrator   Fri Sep 03 2004 02:50 AM
. * * Re: Winds down at 11pm Joe   Fri Sep 03 2004 02:45 AM
. * * Re: Winds down at 11pm Rabbit   Fri Sep 03 2004 02:39 AM
. * * Re: Hurricane Frances Still on Track TD#9 forms in Eastern Atlantic jiml9   Fri Sep 03 2004 12:56 AM
. * * Re: Hurricane Frances Still on Track TD#9 forms in Eastern Atlantic jimmy99   Fri Sep 03 2004 12:50 AM
. * * Re: Hurricane Frances Still on Track TD#9 forms in Eastern Atlantic 4192   Thu Sep 02 2004 11:38 PM
. * * Re: Hurricane Frances Still on Track TD#9 forms in Eastern Atlantic luki   Thu Sep 02 2004 11:44 PM
. * * Re: Hurricane Frances Still on Track TD#9 forms in Eastern Atlantic Hawdon Supreme   Thu Sep 02 2004 11:42 PM
. * * Re: Hurricane Frances Still on Track TD#9 forms in Eastern Atlantic Waiting   Thu Sep 02 2004 11:50 PM
. * * Re: Hurricane Frances Still on Track TD#9 forms in Eastern Atlantic *DELETED* Karen   Fri Sep 03 2004 12:40 AM
. * * Re: Hurricane Frances Still on Track TD#9 forms in Eastern Atlantic obshaz   Fri Sep 03 2004 12:56 AM
. * * Re: Hurricane Frances Still on Track TD#9 forms in Eastern Atlantic spook   Fri Sep 03 2004 01:01 AM
. * * Frances Colleen A.   Fri Sep 03 2004 01:54 AM
. * * Re: Frances Clark   Fri Sep 03 2004 02:05 AM
. * * Re: Frances recmod   Fri Sep 03 2004 02:01 AM
. * * Re: Frances SoonerShawn   Fri Sep 03 2004 02:00 AM
. * * Re: Frances RevUp   Fri Sep 03 2004 02:06 AM
. * * Re: Frances SoonerShawn   Fri Sep 03 2004 02:30 AM
. * * Re: Frances AmateurJohn   Fri Sep 03 2004 02:44 AM
. * * Re: Frances Bev   Fri Sep 03 2004 02:29 AM
. * * Re: Hurricane Frances Still on Track TD#9 forms in Eastern Atlantic obshaz   Fri Sep 03 2004 01:10 AM
. * * Re: Hurricane Frances Still on Track TD#9 forms in Eastern Atlantic bobbi/lois   Fri Sep 03 2004 12:54 AM
. * * Re: Hurricane Frances Still on Track TD#9 forms in Eastern Atlantic bell   Fri Sep 03 2004 12:57 AM
. * * Re: Hurricane Frances Still on Track TD#9 forms in Eastern Atlantic RevRandy   Fri Sep 03 2004 12:54 AM
. * * Lakeland taking down street lights... Londovir   Fri Sep 03 2004 12:50 AM
. * * Dumb newbie question about the new map and "red" and "blue" areas Hurricaned   Thu Sep 02 2004 11:15 PM
. * * Re: Dumb newbie question about the new map and "red" and "blue" areas SkeetoBiteAdministrator   Fri Sep 03 2004 12:08 AM
. * * Re: Dumb newbie question about the new map and "red" and "blue" areas ThirdRay   Fri Sep 03 2004 12:24 AM
. * * Updates WXMAN RICHIE   Fri Sep 03 2004 12:33 AM
. * * Re: Updates tony   Fri Sep 03 2004 12:57 AM
. * * Re: Updates BillD   Fri Sep 03 2004 01:05 AM
. * * Re: Dumb newbie question about the new map and "red" and "blue" areas jth   Fri Sep 03 2004 12:30 AM
. * * Re: Hurricane Frances Still on Track TD#9 forms in Eastern Atlantic mp3reed   Thu Sep 02 2004 11:08 PM
. * * Restore the sanity.. PLEASE!!!! dhcp   Thu Sep 02 2004 10:57 PM
. * * Re: Restore the sanity.. PLEASE!!!! Pam was in Vero   Thu Sep 02 2004 11:41 PM
. * * Re: Restore the sanity.. PLEASE!!!! Clark   Thu Sep 02 2004 11:51 PM
. * * Re: Restore the sanity.. PLEASE!!!! WeatherNLU   Thu Sep 02 2004 11:53 PM
. * * Re: Restore the sanity.. PLEASE!!!! Clark   Fri Sep 03 2004 12:07 AM
. * * Re: Restore the sanity.. PLEASE!!!! 4192   Fri Sep 03 2004 12:24 AM
. * * Re: Restore the sanity.. PLEASE!!!! 4192   Thu Sep 02 2004 11:58 PM
. * * Re: Restore the sanity.. PLEASE!!!! Cathy   Thu Sep 02 2004 11:20 PM
. * * Re: Restore the sanity.. PLEASE!!!! spook   Thu Sep 02 2004 11:05 PM
. * * Closer... more detail/cities/streets SkeetoBiteAdministrator   Thu Sep 02 2004 10:29 PM
. * * Re: Closer... more detail/cities/streets francois   Thu Sep 02 2004 10:42 PM
. * * Re: Closer... more detail/cities/streets Ricreig   Fri Sep 03 2004 03:51 AM
. * * NEW THREAD!!! LI Phil   Fri Sep 03 2004 03:56 AM
. * * Re: Closer... more detail/cities/streets SkeetoBiteAdministrator   Thu Sep 02 2004 10:53 PM
. * * Re: Closer... more detail/cities/streets francois   Thu Sep 02 2004 10:58 PM
. * * Re: Closer... more detail/cities/streets SkeetoBiteAdministrator   Fri Sep 03 2004 12:01 AM
. * * Re: Closer... more detail/cities/streets Ricreig   Fri Sep 03 2004 04:14 AM
. * * Sats... wxman007   Thu Sep 02 2004 10:44 PM
. * * Re: Sats... spook   Thu Sep 02 2004 10:51 PM
. * * Track WXMAN RICHIE   Thu Sep 02 2004 10:57 PM
. * * Re: Sats... wxman007   Thu Sep 02 2004 10:55 PM
. * * Re: Sats... WeatherNLU   Thu Sep 02 2004 11:30 PM
. * * Re: Sats... spook   Thu Sep 02 2004 11:47 PM
. * * Curfews WXMAN RICHIE   Thu Sep 02 2004 11:56 PM
. * * Re: Sats... MIAMIFL   Thu Sep 02 2004 11:33 PM
. * * Re: Sats... Hawdon Supreme   Thu Sep 02 2004 11:27 PM
. * * Re: Sats... Clark   Thu Sep 02 2004 11:45 PM
. * * Re: Sats... Hurricaned   Thu Sep 02 2004 11:50 PM
. * * Re: Sats... Clark   Thu Sep 02 2004 11:57 PM
. * * Re: Sats... unregistered   Fri Sep 03 2004 01:19 AM
. * * Re: Sats... jth   Fri Sep 03 2004 12:02 AM
. * * Re: Sats... jlauderdal   Fri Sep 03 2004 12:51 AM
. * * Re: Sats... GuppieGrouper   Fri Sep 03 2004 01:07 AM
. * * Re: Sats... RevUp   Fri Sep 03 2004 01:29 AM
. * * Re: Sats... kirdona   Fri Sep 03 2004 12:59 AM
. * * Re: Sats... jlauderdal   Fri Sep 03 2004 01:21 AM
. * * Reports from the Bahamas LI Phil   Fri Sep 03 2004 01:28 AM
. * * Re: Reports from the Bahamas cjzydeco   Fri Sep 03 2004 01:45 AM
. * * Re: Reports from the Bahamas SoonerShawn   Fri Sep 03 2004 01:51 AM
. * * Re: Reports from the Bahamas Jeffmidtown   Fri Sep 03 2004 01:32 AM
. * * Re: Sats... BillD   Fri Sep 03 2004 12:56 AM
. * * Re: Sats... doug   Fri Sep 03 2004 01:08 AM
. * * Re: Sats... cjzydeco   Fri Sep 03 2004 01:15 AM
. * * Re: Sats... doug   Fri Sep 03 2004 01:24 AM
. * * Re: Sats... spook   Fri Sep 03 2004 01:11 AM
. * * main board content HanKFranK   Fri Sep 03 2004 01:26 AM
. * * Definite west jog IMO Frank P   Fri Sep 03 2004 01:20 AM
. * * 8:43 vortex message Londovir   Fri Sep 03 2004 01:28 AM
. * * Re: 8:43 vortex message WeatherNLU   Fri Sep 03 2004 01:33 AM
. * * Re: 8:43 vortex message teal61   Fri Sep 03 2004 01:45 AM
. * * Really Starting To Wrap Up! SoonerShawn   Fri Sep 03 2004 01:41 AM
. * * Re: Really Starting To Wrap Up! danielwAdministrator   Fri Sep 03 2004 01:43 AM
. * * Re: Sats... doug   Fri Sep 03 2004 01:19 AM
. * * Re: Sats... BillD   Fri Sep 03 2004 01:33 AM
. * * Old Met Vet Nash Roberts Frank P   Fri Sep 03 2004 01:25 AM
. * * Re: Sats... LONNY307   Fri Sep 03 2004 01:18 AM
. * * Re: Sats... Jeffmidtown   Fri Sep 03 2004 01:18 AM
. * * Re: Sats... Bruce   Fri Sep 03 2004 01:14 AM
. * * Re: Sats... HCW   Thu Sep 02 2004 11:01 PM
. * * Re: Sats... TBAJE   Thu Sep 02 2004 10:52 PM
. * * Re: Sats... SOUTHFLAHAPPYGAL   Thu Sep 02 2004 10:58 PM
. * * Re: Sats... spook   Thu Sep 02 2004 10:50 PM
. * * Re: Sats... FlaRebel   Thu Sep 02 2004 10:49 PM
. * * Re: Closer... more detail/cities/streets FlaRebel   Thu Sep 02 2004 10:41 PM
. * * I find the Orlando information confusing! Hurricaned   Thu Sep 02 2004 10:07 PM
. * * Re: I find the Orlando information confusing! Clark   Thu Sep 02 2004 10:31 PM
. * * NHC Update... wxman007   Thu Sep 02 2004 10:33 PM
. * * Re: NHC Update... SOUTHFLAHAPPTGAL   Thu Sep 02 2004 10:40 PM
. * * Re: NHC Update... Ricreig   Fri Sep 03 2004 03:40 AM
. * * Re: NHC Update... SoonerShawn   Thu Sep 02 2004 10:36 PM
. * * Re: I find the Orlando information confusing! Bell   Thu Sep 02 2004 10:16 PM
. * * Re: I find the Orlando information confusing! BillD   Thu Sep 02 2004 10:37 PM
. * * Miami, poured for five minutes and sky was blue a minute later LoisCane   Thu Sep 02 2004 10:28 PM
. * * Re: Miami, poured for five minutes and sky was blue a minute later Hurricaned   Thu Sep 02 2004 10:45 PM
. * * Orlando outlook. Doombot!   Thu Sep 02 2004 10:49 PM
. * * Re: I find the Orlando information confusing! Cocoa Beach   Thu Sep 02 2004 10:12 PM
. * * Re: I find the Orlando information confusing! alan   Thu Sep 02 2004 10:10 PM
. * * Re: I find the Orlando information confusing! Hurricaned   Thu Sep 02 2004 10:12 PM
. * * Re: I find the Orlando information confusing! alan   Thu Sep 02 2004 10:18 PM
. * * frances get stuck HanKFranK   Thu Sep 02 2004 10:35 PM
. * * Re: I find the Orlando information confusing! spoo   Thu Sep 02 2004 10:26 PM
. * * Re: I find the Orlando information confusing! casps   Thu Sep 02 2004 10:09 PM
. * * Re: Hurricane Frances Still on Track TD#9 forms in Eastern Atlantic Tropic Mark   Thu Sep 02 2004 09:09 PM
. * * Re: Hurricane Frances Still on Track TD#9 forms in Eastern Atlantic AgentB   Thu Sep 02 2004 09:18 PM
. * * New Vortex wxman007   Thu Sep 02 2004 09:06 PM
. * * Re: New Vortex caneman   Thu Sep 02 2004 09:11 PM
. * * Re: Hurricane Frances Still on Track TD#9 forms in Eastern Atlantic Colleen A.   Thu Sep 02 2004 08:59 PM
. * * Re: Hurricane Frances Still on Track TD#9 forms in Eastern Atlantic Rabbit   Thu Sep 02 2004 08:58 PM
. * * Re: Hurricane Frances Still on Track TD#9 forms in Eastern Atlantic Colleen A.   Thu Sep 02 2004 09:06 PM
. * * Re: Hurricane Frances Still on Track TD#9 forms in Eastern Atlantic elcuco   Fri Sep 03 2004 05:19 PM
. * * Re: Hurricane Frances Still on Track TD#9 forms in Eastern Atlantic wxman007   Thu Sep 02 2004 09:10 PM
. * * Re: Hurricane Frances Still on Track TD#9 forms in Eastern Atlantic SoonerShawn   Thu Sep 02 2004 09:20 PM
. * * Re: Hurricane Frances Still on Track TD#9 forms in Eastern Atlantic LI Phil   Thu Sep 02 2004 09:25 PM
. * * Re: Hurricane Frances Still on Track TD#9 forms in Eastern Atlantic clyde w.   Thu Sep 02 2004 09:30 PM
. * * Re: Hurricane Frances Still on Track TD#9 forms in Eastern Atlantic BillD   Thu Sep 02 2004 09:57 PM
. * * Re: Hurricane Frances Still on Track TD#9 forms in Eastern Atlantic wxman007   Thu Sep 02 2004 10:00 PM
. * * Re: Hurricane Frances Still on Track TD#9 forms in Eastern Atlantic Chopper Davie   Thu Sep 02 2004 09:27 PM
. * * Re: Hurricane Frances Still on Track TD#9 forms in Eastern Atlantic Doombot!   Thu Sep 02 2004 09:28 PM
. * * Re: Hurricane Frances Still on Track TD#9 forms in Eastern Atlantic Chopper Davie   Thu Sep 02 2004 09:34 PM
. * * another 6 hours.... rickonboat   Thu Sep 02 2004 09:32 PM
. * * Re: another 6 hours.... Todd   Thu Sep 02 2004 09:55 PM
. * * San Salvador.... rickonboat   Thu Sep 02 2004 10:07 PM
. * * Re: another 6 hours.... LI Phil   Thu Sep 02 2004 10:02 PM
. * * Re: another 6 hours.... Todd   Thu Sep 02 2004 10:05 PM
. * * Re: another 6 hours.... SoonerShawn   Thu Sep 02 2004 10:10 PM
. * * Re: another 6 hours.... SirCane   Thu Sep 02 2004 10:31 PM
. * * Re: another 6 hours.... spook   Thu Sep 02 2004 10:22 PM
. * * Re: another 6 hours.... Rabbit   Thu Sep 02 2004 10:29 PM
. * * Re: another 6 hours.... Ricreig   Fri Sep 03 2004 03:32 AM
. * * Re: another 6 hours.... meto   Fri Sep 03 2004 12:51 AM
. * * Re: another 6 hours.... spook   Thu Sep 02 2004 10:40 PM
. * * Re: another 6 hours.... Karen   Thu Sep 02 2004 11:15 PM
. * * Re: another 6 hours.... spook   Thu Sep 02 2004 11:23 PM
. * * Re: another 6 hours.... AgentB   Thu Sep 02 2004 10:38 PM
. * * Re: another 6 hours.... SoonerShawn   Thu Sep 02 2004 10:42 PM
. * * Re: another 6 hours.... spook   Thu Sep 02 2004 10:31 PM
. * * Re: another 6 hours.... 52255225   Thu Sep 02 2004 10:31 PM
. * * Re: another 6 hours.... Todd   Thu Sep 02 2004 10:17 PM
. * * Re: another 6 hours.... LI Phil   Thu Sep 02 2004 09:35 PM
. * * New Eye Reformation? SoonerShawn   Thu Sep 02 2004 09:42 PM
. * * 5pm Advisory StormHound   Thu Sep 02 2004 09:37 PM
. * * Re: 5pm Advisory DroopGB31   Thu Sep 02 2004 09:47 PM
. * * Re: 5pm Advisory wxnole   Thu Sep 02 2004 11:57 PM
. * * Re: 5pm Advisory AgentB   Fri Sep 03 2004 12:11 AM
. * * Re: 5pm Advisory BillD   Fri Sep 03 2004 12:17 AM
. * * Re: 5pm Advisory spook   Fri Sep 03 2004 12:28 AM
. * * Re: 5pm Advisory wxman007   Thu Sep 02 2004 09:52 PM
. * * Re: 5pm Advisory spook   Thu Sep 02 2004 10:12 PM
. * * Re: another 6 hours.... 52255225   Thu Sep 02 2004 09:35 PM
. * * Lower wind speed at landfall? StormHound   Thu Sep 02 2004 09:34 PM
. * * Re: Lower wind speed at landfall? clyde w.   Thu Sep 02 2004 09:37 PM
. * * Re: Lower wind speed at landfall? StormHound   Thu Sep 02 2004 09:44 PM
. * * Re: Lower wind speed at landfall? casps   Thu Sep 02 2004 09:48 PM
. * * Re: Lower wind speed at landfall? LI Phil   Thu Sep 02 2004 09:55 PM
. * * Re: Lower wind speed at landfall? cas   Thu Sep 02 2004 09:57 PM
. * * Re: Lower wind speed at landfall? casps   Thu Sep 02 2004 10:00 PM
. * * Re: Hurricane Frances Still on Track TD#9 forms in Eastern Atlantic jth   Thu Sep 02 2004 09:01 PM
. * * Re: Hurricane Frances Still on Track TD#9 forms in Eastern Atlantic rich   Thu Sep 02 2004 08:57 PM

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