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Re: Weakening
      Fri Sep 03 2004 03:28 AM

danielw -- indeed it is.

To illustrate this, I used one of the utilities we have here called GEMPAK. Those of you in meteorology are probably familiar with it; for those of you who aren't, simply put, it allows you to display a whole bunch of meteorological data. It's akin to a programming language to display data.

Since it is a rather large file, I have uploaded it to my webserver so as not to clog this webserver down. It is in Adobe PDF format and is about 900kb in size. The file contains a plot of all 12z radio observations from across the eastern US & Bermuda along with three model output runs for comparison -- GFS in lime green, NOGAPS in red, and Eta in a barely readable yellow (my apologies).

You can get the file here:
http://www.northflams.org/misc/500height.pdf

Contours are denoted every 20m, i.e. 5900m, 5920m, and so on. The number in the upper right of each station obervation gives that station's height. Of particular note are how the models handled the height in Bermuda and the heights along the east coast in Charleston and Jacksonville. Only the GFS came close; the other models kept the 5900 and 5920 lines well out to sea. I could do the same for other times and show the same thing -- and this is all without the aid of the radio observations from the G-IV surveillance plane.

Just an interesting piece of info to leave you all with for the evening.

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* Frances at 11PM MikeCAdministrator Fri Sep 03 2004 03:28 AM
. * * The gulfstream Alex.K   Fri Sep 03 2004 03:05 AM
. * * Re: The gulfstream JG   Fri Sep 03 2004 03:09 AM
. * * Weakening Rabbit   Fri Sep 03 2004 02:52 AM
. * * Re: Weakening JG   Fri Sep 03 2004 03:07 AM
. * * Re: Weakening danielwAdministrator   Fri Sep 03 2004 03:10 AM
. * * slow down.. bobbi   Fri Sep 03 2004 03:58 AM
. * * Re:Glad to be In javlin   Fri Sep 03 2004 03:47 AM
. * * Movement? SonnerShawn   Fri Sep 03 2004 03:55 AM
. * * Re: Movement? SoonerShawn   Fri Sep 03 2004 03:56 AM
. * * Re: Movement? danielwAdministrator   Fri Sep 03 2004 04:09 AM
. * * TWC Colleen A.   Fri Sep 03 2004 04:34 AM
. * * The trend over? Alex.K   Fri Sep 03 2004 04:23 AM
. * * Here's the rub... LI Phil   Fri Sep 03 2004 04:43 AM
. * * Re: Here's the rub... Colleen A.   Fri Sep 03 2004 04:53 AM
. * * Frances seems to be crawing at the moment Frank P   Fri Sep 03 2004 04:21 AM
. * * Re: Weakening BabyCat   Fri Sep 03 2004 03:21 AM
. * * Re: Weakening Jamiewx   Fri Sep 03 2004 02:58 AM
. * * Re: Weakening Clark   Fri Sep 03 2004 03:04 AM
. * * Re: Weakening jth   Fri Sep 03 2004 03:00 AM
. * * Re: Weakening danielwAdministrator   Fri Sep 03 2004 03:04 AM
. * * Re: Weakening Clark   Fri Sep 03 2004 03:28 AM
. * * Re: Weakening HCW   Fri Sep 03 2004 02:58 AM
. * * Re: Weakening jaybythebay   Fri Sep 03 2004 03:01 AM
. * * Folks, please... LI Phil   Fri Sep 03 2004 03:10 AM
. * * Re: Folks, please... Clark   Fri Sep 03 2004 03:41 AM
. * * Re: Folks, please... FromUpNorth   Fri Sep 03 2004 04:05 AM
. * * Re: Folks, please... wxman007   Fri Sep 03 2004 04:09 AM
. * * hey jason..and Phil and NHC bobbi   Fri Sep 03 2004 05:20 AM
. * * Re: hey jason..and Phil and NHC LI Phil   Fri Sep 03 2004 05:30 AM
. * * Re: hey jason..and Phil and NHC scottsvb1   Fri Sep 03 2004 05:42 AM
. * * Re: hey jason..and Phil and NHC LI Phil   Fri Sep 03 2004 06:09 AM
. * * Re: hey jason..and Phil and NHC wxman007   Fri Sep 03 2004 06:18 AM
. * * Re: hey jason..and Phil and NHC john03   Fri Sep 03 2004 06:26 AM
. * * Re: recon john03   Fri Sep 03 2004 06:39 AM
. * * Re:sats john03   Fri Sep 03 2004 06:54 AM
. * * Re:sats jth off   Fri Sep 03 2004 06:56 AM
. * * Re:sats bck john03   Fri Sep 03 2004 06:58 AM
. * * Re:sats bck jth off   Fri Sep 03 2004 06:59 AM
. * * Re:sats bck Humanriff   Fri Sep 03 2004 07:02 AM
. * * Re:sats bck john03   Fri Sep 03 2004 07:04 AM
. * * Re:sats bck john03   Fri Sep 03 2004 07:01 AM
. * * Re:sats bck danielwAdministrator   Fri Sep 03 2004 07:05 AM
. * * Re:sats bck john03   Fri Sep 03 2004 07:06 AM
. * * Re:sats bck danielwAdministrator   Fri Sep 03 2004 07:11 AM
. * * Re:sats bck john03   Fri Sep 03 2004 07:15 AM
. * * Re:Orange danielwAdministrator   Fri Sep 03 2004 07:25 AM
. * * Re:Orange john03   Fri Sep 03 2004 07:37 AM
. * * Re:NWS Miami update danielwAdministrator   Fri Sep 03 2004 07:34 AM
. * * Re:NWS Key West update danielwAdministrator   Fri Sep 03 2004 07:43 AM
. * * Re:NWS Key West update john03   Fri Sep 03 2004 07:46 AM
. * * Re:LSU danielwAdministrator   Fri Sep 03 2004 07:49 AM
. * * Re:LSU john03   Fri Sep 03 2004 07:52 AM
. * * Re:LSU Becky1322   Fri Sep 03 2004 08:15 AM
. * * Re:LSU danielwAdministrator   Fri Sep 03 2004 08:06 AM
. * * Re: sat john03   Fri Sep 03 2004 08:15 AM
. * * Re: sat danielwAdministrator   Fri Sep 03 2004 08:35 AM
. * * Re:LSU scottsvb1   Fri Sep 03 2004 08:11 AM
. * * Re:LSU 666   Fri Sep 03 2004 08:03 AM
. * * Re:LSU LadyStorm   Fri Sep 03 2004 12:09 PM
. * * Frances continues to weaken berrywr   Fri Sep 03 2004 08:17 AM
. * * Re: Frances continues to weaken danielwAdministrator   Fri Sep 03 2004 08:25 AM
. * * Following Lowest Pressure berrywr   Fri Sep 03 2004 08:36 AM
. * * Re: Following Lowest Pressure firestar_1   Fri Sep 03 2004 12:14 PM
. * * Track WXMAN RICHIE   Fri Sep 03 2004 12:32 PM
. * * Re: Following Lowest Pressure LeftOrlando   Fri Sep 03 2004 12:20 PM
. * * Re: Following Lowest Pressure berrywr   Fri Sep 03 2004 08:43 AM
. * * Re: Following Lowest Pressure LakeCountySeat   Fri Sep 03 2004 08:47 AM
. * * Re: Following Lowest Pressure danielwAdministrator   Fri Sep 03 2004 08:41 AM
. * * Re: Following Lowest Pressure rmbjoe1954   Fri Sep 03 2004 08:49 AM
. * * Re: Just in Time danielwAdministrator   Fri Sep 03 2004 08:47 AM
. * * Re: Following Lowest Pressure scottsvb1   Fri Sep 03 2004 08:40 AM
. * * Subsidence W of Frances? berrywr   Fri Sep 03 2004 08:51 AM
. * * Is Frances a dud? Wxwatcher2   Fri Sep 03 2004 09:09 AM
. * * Re: Is Frances a dud? 52255225   Fri Sep 03 2004 11:53 AM
. * * Re: Is Frances a dud? RevUp   Fri Sep 03 2004 12:13 PM
. * * Re: Is Frances a dud? Rasvar   Fri Sep 03 2004 12:05 PM
. * * Re: Is Frances a dud? HanKFranK   Fri Sep 03 2004 12:05 PM
. * * Seems like they always....... Frank P   Fri Sep 03 2004 12:43 PM
. * * Re: Seems like they always....... Jeffmidtown   Fri Sep 03 2004 12:56 PM
. * * Re: Seems like they always....... DMFischer   Fri Sep 03 2004 12:52 PM
. * * Re: Is Frances a dud? 52255225   Fri Sep 03 2004 12:21 PM
. * * Re: Is Frances a dud? HCW   Fri Sep 03 2004 12:31 PM
. * * Re: Is Frances a dud? Rasvar   Fri Sep 03 2004 12:29 PM
. * * Re: Is Frances a dud? Ed in Va   Fri Sep 03 2004 12:34 PM
. * * Re: Is Frances a dud? maxwellincfl   Fri Sep 03 2004 12:52 PM
. * * Re: Color Sat pic danielwAdministrator   Fri Sep 03 2004 08:55 AM
. * * Re: LSU Sat pic danielwAdministrator   Fri Sep 03 2004 09:05 AM
. * * Re: Frances continues to weaken scottsvb1   Fri Sep 03 2004 08:29 AM
. * * Re: Frances continues to weaken scottsvb1   Fri Sep 03 2004 08:22 AM
. * * Re:Dud danielwAdministrator   Fri Sep 03 2004 08:12 AM
. * * Re: ridge fred08   Fri Sep 03 2004 07:34 AM
. * * Re:Orange Timothy   Fri Sep 03 2004 07:30 AM
. * * Re:sats bck scottsvb1   Fri Sep 03 2004 07:18 AM
. * * Ivan and Frances Bloodstar   Fri Sep 03 2004 07:21 AM
. * * Re:sats bck fred08   Fri Sep 03 2004 07:20 AM
. * * Tropical storm Ivan Matt033   Fri Sep 03 2004 07:33 AM
. * * Re:sats bck Rabbit   Fri Sep 03 2004 07:06 AM
. * * Re:sats danielwAdministrator   Fri Sep 03 2004 06:56 AM
. * * Re:sats danielwAdministrator   Fri Sep 03 2004 07:00 AM
. * * Re: Satellites danielwAdministrator   Fri Sep 03 2004 06:27 AM
. * * Re: hey jason..and Phil and NHC wxman007   Fri Sep 03 2004 05:59 AM
. * * Re: Maximum Winds danielwAdministrator   Fri Sep 03 2004 06:05 AM
. * * Re: Maximum Winds fred08   Fri Sep 03 2004 06:11 AM
. * * Re: Maximum Winds danielwAdministrator   Fri Sep 03 2004 06:16 AM
. * * Re: Maximum Winds fred08   Fri Sep 03 2004 06:15 AM
. * * Re: hey jason..and Phil and NHC HCW   Fri Sep 03 2004 05:55 AM
. * * Re: Folks, please... FromUpNorth   Fri Sep 03 2004 04:21 AM
. * * Re: Folks, please... wxman007   Fri Sep 03 2004 04:27 AM
. * * Re: Folks, please... jth offline   Fri Sep 03 2004 04:43 AM
. * * Re: Folks, please... wxman007   Fri Sep 03 2004 05:00 AM
. * * Re: think comeback..... fred08   Fri Sep 03 2004 05:17 AM
. * * Re: think comeback..... Colleen A.   Fri Sep 03 2004 05:23 AM
. * * Re: think comeback..... 666   Fri Sep 03 2004 06:59 AM
. * * Re: Colleen... danielwAdministrator   Fri Sep 03 2004 05:03 AM
. * * Re: Colleen... Colleen A.   Fri Sep 03 2004 05:16 AM
. * * Re: Satellites danielwAdministrator   Fri Sep 03 2004 04:48 AM
. * * Re: Satellites Colleen A.   Fri Sep 03 2004 04:58 AM
. * * I was wrong.... it is moving as forecast by NHC Frank P   Fri Sep 03 2004 04:38 AM
. * * Re: I was wrong.... it is moving as forecast by NHC Colleen A.   Fri Sep 03 2004 04:47 AM
. * * 0304Z Vortex message danielwAdministrator   Fri Sep 03 2004 04:41 AM
. * * Re: Folks, please... jth offline   Fri Sep 03 2004 04:35 AM
. * * Re: Folks, please... HCRay   Fri Sep 03 2004 04:41 AM
. * * Re: Folks, please... FromUpNorth   Fri Sep 03 2004 04:34 AM
. * * Re: Folks, please... wxman007   Fri Sep 03 2004 04:39 AM
. * * Re: Folks, please... FromUpNorth   Fri Sep 03 2004 04:41 AM
. * * Re: Folks, please... HCRay   Fri Sep 03 2004 04:14 AM
. * * salt lick HanKFranK   Fri Sep 03 2004 03:58 AM
. * * Re: salt lick Clark   Fri Sep 03 2004 04:27 AM
. * * Re: salt lick Colleen A.   Fri Sep 03 2004 04:41 AM
. * * Re: salt lick Clark   Fri Sep 03 2004 05:00 AM
. * * Re: salt lick bobbi   Fri Sep 03 2004 04:07 AM
. * * Stewart's Discussion Colleen A.   Fri Sep 03 2004 04:21 AM
. * * Re: Folks, please... Todd   Fri Sep 03 2004 03:22 AM
. * * Re: Weakening Clark   Fri Sep 03 2004 03:08 AM
. * * Re: Weakening JG   Fri Sep 03 2004 03:19 AM
. * * Re: Weakening Clark   Fri Sep 03 2004 03:32 AM
. * * I am here... wxman007   Fri Sep 03 2004 03:27 AM
. * * Re: Weakening jth   Fri Sep 03 2004 02:57 AM

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