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AgentB
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Loc: Winter Park, FL

Re: Frances now stationary!
Fri Sep 03 2004 08:19 PM

Phil you are absolutely right about the weakening. Remember everybody the difference between 140mph and 105mph is not just 35mph. It is an exponential difference, and can mean the difference between major structural collapses and *only* roof damage and trees coming down(though that's not insignificant either). We can only hope that this weakening trend continues. Though that also seems to be a point of debate. I tend to side with those that believe this storm won't restrengthen to the point it was earlier today. My reasoning is that it takes a huge amount of energy to power a storm this large to the levels it once was at. Right now, being over the Bahamas(land/shallow albeit warm water) and being very close to Florida cuts down how much "power" is available to it. While the back half of the storm might be over water, the front half will be coming apart with every mile it moves further inland. With Charley that storm was small, easier to "power", had nothing but warm water and moisture laden air around it, and no land interaction between Cuba and Florida. That is why it got so powerful so fast. I had a feeling as we got closer to today and tomorrow that this storm would indeed stall out. It's reached the ridge, will interact with it a bit, then start to move "down it" to the west. Currently, with its latitude it's about even with North Miami Beach. I think we'll see the same more west than north movement Frances has exhibited for most of her life in the next few hours, but not before she drifts a bit closer to SE Florida.

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Frances to Move Slowly Across Florida Tomorrow	MikeC	Fri Sep 03 2004 08:19 PM
Re: Frances to Move Slowly Across Florida Tomorrow	gtd	Sun Sep 05 2004 01:18 AM
Weather Disaster or any other kind? We can help	Disaster Buddies	Sat Sep 04 2004 10:55 PM
Frances near landfall	Clark	Sat Sep 04 2004 06:41 PM
From East Orlando	clyde w.	Sat Sep 04 2004 06:32 PM
Re: From East Orlando	hntr74	Sat Sep 04 2004 06:39 PM
Re: From East Orlando	Hurricaned	Sat Sep 04 2004 06:37 PM
Re: From East Orlando	SoonerShawn	Sat Sep 04 2004 06:36 PM
Re: Frances to Move Slowly Across Florida Tomorrow	Laurie(England)	Sat Sep 04 2004 06:06 PM
Re: Frances to Move Slowly Across Florida Tomorrow	DutchPeter	Sat Sep 04 2004 06:20 PM
Re: Frances to Move Slowly Across Florida Tomorrow	HMY	Sat Sep 04 2004 06:27 PM
Re: Frances to Move Slowly Across Florida Tomorrow	DutchPeter	Sat Sep 04 2004 06:37 PM
Re: Frances to Move Slowly Across Florida Tomorrow	schmoo	Sat Sep 04 2004 06:41 PM
Re: Frances to Move Slowly Across Florida Tomorrow	StormHound	Sat Sep 04 2004 07:27 PM
Re: Frances to Move Slowly Across Florida Tomorrow	DutchPeter	Sat Sep 04 2004 06:47 PM
Re: Frances to Move Slowly Across Florida Tomorrow	storm 1	Sat Sep 04 2004 07:37 PM
Re: Frances to Move Slowly Across Florida Tomorrow	Frank P	Sat Sep 04 2004 08:18 PM
Re: Frances to Move Slowly Across Florida Tomorrow	h2ocean	Sat Sep 04 2004 08:17 PM
Re: Frances to Move Slowly Across Florida Tomorrow	AngB	Sat Sep 04 2004 08:24 PM
Re: Frances to Move Slowly Across Florida Tomorrow	h2ocean	Sat Sep 04 2004 08:32 PM
Re: Frances to Move Slowly Across Florida Tomorrow	Kruz	Sat Sep 04 2004 06:23 PM
Re: Frances to Move Slowly Across Florida Tomorrow	Wxwatcher2	Sat Sep 04 2004 06:16 PM
Re:ABC News Now has live FL feed	ShanaTX	Sat Sep 04 2004 04:03 PM
Re: Frances to Move Slowly Across Florida Tomorrow	tomm4567	Sat Sep 04 2004 03:32 PM
Re: Frances to Move Slowly Across Florida Tomorrow	Hurric	Sat Sep 04 2004 04:08 PM
Re: Frances to Move Slowly Across Florida Tomorrow	tikibar	Sat Sep 04 2004 04:18 PM
Re: Frances to Move Slowly Across Florida Tomorrow	Alex.K	Sat Sep 04 2004 04:22 PM
Re: Frances to Move Slowly Across Florida Tomorrow	Hurric	Sat Sep 04 2004 04:21 PM
Re: Frances to Move Slowly Across Florida Tomorrow	tikibar	Sat Sep 04 2004 04:28 PM
Re: Frances to Move Slowly Across Florida Tomorrow	DroopGB31	Sat Sep 04 2004 05:34 PM
Re: Frances to Move Slowly Across Florida Tomorrow	tikibar	Sat Sep 04 2004 04:48 PM
Re: Frances to Move Slowly Across Florida Tomorrow	Wxwatcher2	Sat Sep 04 2004 04:37 PM
Re: Frances to Move Slowly Across Florida Tomorrow	AgentB	Sat Sep 04 2004 05:24 PM
Re: Frances to Move Slowly Across Florida Tomorrow	lisa33811j	Sat Sep 04 2004 04:35 PM
Re: Frances to Move Slowly Across Florida Tomorrow	Hurric	Sat Sep 04 2004 04:11 PM
What an Excellent Model	cjzydeco	Fri Sep 03 2004 10:58 PM
Re: What an Excellent Model	Rasvar	Sat Sep 04 2004 01:33 PM
And now back to Frances	Rasvar	Sat Sep 04 2004 01:41 PM
Re: And now back to Frances	andy1tom	Sat Sep 04 2004 03:04 PM
Re: And now back to Frances	palmetto	Sat Sep 04 2004 03:14 PM
glad board is back up...	rickonboat	Sat Sep 04 2004 03:10 PM
Re: glad board is back up...	StormHound	Sat Sep 04 2004 03:15 PM
Re: And now back to Frances	EKH2004	Sat Sep 04 2004 03:09 PM
Re: Frances to Move Slowly Across Florida Tomorrow	Ashley.m	Fri Sep 03 2004 09:11 PM
Re: Frances to Move Slowly Across Florida Tomorrow	SkeetoBite	Fri Sep 03 2004 06:29 PM
Wind Field images	SkeetoBite	Fri Sep 03 2004 07:25 PM
Re: Frances to Move Slowly Across Florida Tomorrow	erauwx	Fri Sep 03 2004 06:46 PM
Re: Frances to Move Slowly Across Florida Tomorrow	RevUp	Fri Sep 03 2004 07:10 PM
Re: Frances to Move Slowly Across Florida Tomorrow	DroopGB31	Fri Sep 03 2004 07:19 PM
Re: Frances to Move Slowly Across Florida Tomorrow	mbfly	Fri Sep 03 2004 07:40 PM
Re: Frances to Move Slowly Across Florida Tomorrow	jim013	Fri Sep 03 2004 06:53 PM
Re: Frances to Move Slowly Across Florida Tomorrow	Alberta Canada	Fri Sep 03 2004 05:54 PM
Re: Frances to Move Slowly Across Florida Tomorrow	RevUp	Fri Sep 03 2004 05:53 PM
Re: Frances to Move Slowly Across Florida Tomorrow	Colleen A.	Fri Sep 03 2004 05:29 PM
Re: Frances to Move Slowly Across Florida Tomorrow	Ronn	Fri Sep 03 2004 05:54 PM
Re: Frances to Move Slowly Across Florida Tomorrow	schmoo	Fri Sep 03 2004 06:01 PM
Rainfall Network	RevUp	Fri Sep 03 2004 06:45 PM
Re: Frances to Move Slowly Across Florida Tomorrow	AgentB	Fri Sep 03 2004 06:29 PM
Re: Frances to Move Slowly Across Florida Tomorrow	Frank P	Fri Sep 03 2004 06:58 PM
labor day weekend	HanKFranK	Fri Sep 03 2004 07:31 PM
Frances now stationary!	berrywr	Fri Sep 03 2004 07:44 PM
Re: Frances now stationary!	Jeffmidtown	Fri Sep 03 2004 07:47 PM
Re: Frances now stationary!	Terra	Fri Sep 03 2004 08:04 PM
Re: Frances now stationary!	LI Phil	Fri Sep 03 2004 07:56 PM
Re: Frances now stationary!	AgentB	Fri Sep 03 2004 08:19 PM
Re: Frances now stationary!	HMY	Fri Sep 03 2004 08:22 PM
Re: Frances now stationary!	AgentB	Fri Sep 03 2004 08:30 PM
Re: Frances now stationary!	jaybythebay	Fri Sep 03 2004 08:28 PM
Re: Frances now stationary!	spook	Fri Sep 03 2004 08:38 PM
Re: Frances now stationary!	gailmm	Fri Sep 03 2004 09:00 PM
San Salvador	WXMAN RICHIE	Fri Sep 03 2004 09:05 PM
Re: San Salvador	BillD	Fri Sep 03 2004 09:20 PM
Re: San Salvador	Bev	Sat Sep 04 2004 06:11 PM
Re: San Salvador	GuppieGrouper	Fri Sep 03 2004 09:13 PM
Re: Frances now stationary!	HCW	Fri Sep 03 2004 08:29 PM
Re: Frances now stationary!	DroopGB31	Fri Sep 03 2004 08:39 PM
Re: Frances now stationary!	PFSThunder	Fri Sep 03 2004 08:55 PM
Re: Frances now stationary!	AdmittedHacker	Fri Sep 03 2004 08:04 PM
will wonders never cease?	rickonboat	Fri Sep 03 2004 08:10 PM
Re: will wonders never cease?	Terra	Fri Sep 03 2004 08:32 PM
Weakening	centauratlas	Fri Sep 03 2004 09:10 PM
The long wait	WXMAN RICHIE	Fri Sep 03 2004 09:21 PM
Florida residents.... don't underestimate storm surge	Frank P	Fri Sep 03 2004 10:08 PM
Nassau, Bahamas	WXMAN RICHIE	Fri Sep 03 2004 10:14 PM
tracking the center of Frances	Frank P	Fri Sep 03 2004 10:52 PM
Re: tracking the center of Frances	Jason Siegel	Sat Sep 04 2004 03:18 PM
Re: tracking the center of Frances	HMY	Sat Sep 04 2004 03:22 PM
Re: tracking the center of Frances	Hurricaned	Sat Sep 04 2004 03:21 PM
Orlando	recmod	Sat Sep 04 2004 03:26 PM
Re: Orlando	Hurricaned	Sat Sep 04 2004 03:51 PM
South Jog!	Kruz	Sat Sep 04 2004 03:55 PM
Re: South Jog!	recmod	Sat Sep 04 2004 04:10 PM
Casselberry FL at 3:25pm	recmod	Sat Sep 04 2004 04:18 PM
Re: Casselberry FL at 3:25pm	Larry Lawver	Sat Sep 04 2004 04:50 PM
Re: Casselberry FL at 3:25pm	Jason Siegel	Sat Sep 04 2004 04:52 PM
Re: Casselberry FL at 3:25pm	SoonerShawn	Sat Sep 04 2004 05:23 PM
Re: Casselberry FL at 3:25pm	AgentB	Sat Sep 04 2004 05:26 PM
Re: Casselberry FL at 3:25pm	recmod	Sat Sep 04 2004 05:39 PM
Re: Casselberry FL at 3:25pm	AgentB	Sat Sep 04 2004 05:45 PM
Vortex translated by new comp program...	Frank P	Sat Sep 04 2004 05:44 PM
Re: Casselberry FL at 5:40pm	recmod	Sat Sep 04 2004 05:41 PM
Re: Casselberry FL at 5:40pm	DMFischer	Sat Sep 04 2004 05:47 PM
Re: Casselberry FL at 5:40pm	h2ocean	Sat Sep 04 2004 05:53 PM
Re: Casselberry FL at 5:40pm	gailmm	Sat Sep 04 2004 06:36 PM
Re: Casselberry FL at 3:25pm	SoonerShawn	Sat Sep 04 2004 05:36 PM
pressure at 959mb	Bloodstar	Sat Sep 04 2004 05:35 PM
Re: pressure at 959mb	AgentB	Sat Sep 04 2004 05:38 PM
Miami, Fl conditions	tsunami	Sat Sep 04 2004 04:25 PM
Re: Casselberry FL at 3:25pm	Hurricaned	Sat Sep 04 2004 04:22 PM
Re: South Jog!	MrCanard	Sat Sep 04 2004 04:05 PM
Re: South Jog!	h2ocean	Sat Sep 04 2004 04:10 PM
Re: South Jog!	dawn	Sat Sep 04 2004 03:57 PM
if it lingers long enough....	rickonboat	Sat Sep 04 2004 04:03 PM
Re: if it lingers long enough....	Dawn	Sat Sep 04 2004 04:13 PM
Great example of an eye crossing	alan	Sat Sep 04 2004 05:34 PM
Re: South Jog!	Alex.K	Sat Sep 04 2004 04:03 PM
Re: South Jog!	alan	Sat Sep 04 2004 04:01 PM
Re: South Jog!	Dawn	Sat Sep 04 2004 04:11 PM
Re: South Jog!	VolusiaMike	Sat Sep 04 2004 04:04 PM
SW Seminole County	Kevin	Sat Sep 04 2004 03:35 PM
2nd major squall (SW Seminole County)	Kevin	Sat Sep 04 2004 04:03 PM
Re: SW Seminole County	Mark Bendiksen	Sat Sep 04 2004 03:47 PM
Report from East Orlando	clyde w.	Sat Sep 04 2004 03:21 PM
recon?	Alex.K	Fri Sep 03 2004 10:12 PM
Re: recon?	Frank P	Fri Sep 03 2004 10:15 PM
Re: recon?	teal61	Fri Sep 03 2004 10:56 PM
Re: recon?	AdmittedHacker	Fri Sep 03 2004 10:48 PM
Re: The long wait	BillD	Fri Sep 03 2004 10:08 PM
Re: will wonders never cease?	AdmittedHacker	Fri Sep 03 2004 08:21 PM
Re: will wonders never cease?	SoonerShawn	Fri Sep 03 2004 08:25 PM
Re: Frances now stationary!	Cane Watcher	Fri Sep 03 2004 08:03 PM
Re: Frances to Move Slowly Across Florida Tomorrow	SoonerShawn	Fri Sep 03 2004 06:01 PM
Latest Vortex	Frank P	Fri Sep 03 2004 05:49 PM
Re: Frances to Move Slowly Across Florida Tomorrow	Frank P	Fri Sep 03 2004 05:41 PM
Frank P....	teal61	Fri Sep 03 2004 05:55 PM
looks almost stationary to me too Teal....	Frank P	Fri Sep 03 2004 06:51 PM
Re: looks almost stationary to me too Teal....	GuppieGrouper	Fri Sep 03 2004 06:56 PM
Re: looks almost stationary to me too Teal....	HCW	Fri Sep 03 2004 07:09 PM
Radar	SoonerShawn	Fri Sep 03 2004 07:11 PM
Re: Radar	BillD	Fri Sep 03 2004 07:37 PM
Re: Radar	PFSThunder	Fri Sep 03 2004 07:41 PM
Re: Radar	AdmittedHacker	Fri Sep 03 2004 07:57 PM
Just a Thought	SoonerShawn	Fri Sep 03 2004 07:49 PM
Re: Just a Thought	DroopGB31	Fri Sep 03 2004 08:06 PM
Re: Just a Thought	AdmittedHacker	Fri Sep 03 2004 08:12 PM
Re: Just a Thought	DroopGB31	Fri Sep 03 2004 08:25 PM
Re: Just a Thought	Rasvar	Fri Sep 03 2004 08:33 PM
Re: Just a Thought	southflahappygal	Fri Sep 03 2004 08:45 PM
Re: Just a Thought	Rabbit	Fri Sep 03 2004 08:52 PM
add some confusion	HanKFranK	Fri Sep 03 2004 09:14 PM
Re: add some confusion	LI Phil	Fri Sep 03 2004 09:20 PM
Re: Just a Thought	southflahappygal	Fri Sep 03 2004 08:56 PM
coincidence?	Rabbit	Fri Sep 03 2004 08:56 PM
GRRR	Robert	Fri Sep 03 2004 08:38 PM
Re: GRRR	LI Phil	Fri Sep 03 2004 08:41 PM
Re: GRRR	BillD	Fri Sep 03 2004 08:56 PM
A cry out to our mets...	LI Phil	Fri Sep 03 2004 09:04 PM
Re: A cry out to our mets...	BillD	Fri Sep 03 2004 09:14 PM
Re: GRRR	h2ocean	Fri Sep 03 2004 08:55 PM
Re: Just a Thought	GuppieGrouper	Fri Sep 03 2004 08:00 PM
Re: Just a Thought	zacros	Fri Sep 03 2004 08:04 PM
OK I'll say it	alan	Fri Sep 03 2004 07:58 PM
Re: OK I'll say it	alan	Fri Sep 03 2004 08:07 PM
Re: OK I'll say it	HCW	Fri Sep 03 2004 08:10 PM
Re: Radar	HMY	Fri Sep 03 2004 07:14 PM
Re: Radar	MIDA	Fri Sep 03 2004 07:26 PM
Re: Frances to Move Slowly Across Florida Tomorrow	Kimmie	Fri Sep 03 2004 05:49 PM
Additional Vortex Message Data	Frank P	Fri Sep 03 2004 05:53 PM
Re: Frances to Move Slowly Across Florida Tomorrow	eligrace	Fri Sep 03 2004 05:29 PM
Re: Frances to Move Slowly Across Florida Tomorrow	SkeetoBite	Fri Sep 03 2004 05:53 PM
Re: Frances to Move Slowly Across Florida Tomorrow	SoonerShawn	Fri Sep 03 2004 05:28 PM
Re: Frances to Move Slowly Across Florida Tomorrow	WeatherNLU	Fri Sep 03 2004 05:26 PM
Re: Frances to Move Slowly Across Florida Tomorrow	centauratlas	Fri Sep 03 2004 07:13 PM

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