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Colleen A.
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Re: Maps
      Fri Sep 10 2004 12:23 AM

After the flips and flops and the left/right/lefts of the last two storms, I decided I was going to put a binder together with all the information that's out there i.e., model maps, tracks, discussions, etc. for a quick and easy reference guide. Does this make me a total storm geek? Of course. Do I care? Absolutely not. It's a lot easier to look up information in a binder than to go back and try to find info from 2 days ago on the computer.

I was not surprised to see the track shift back to the east because Stacey Stewart wrote this in his 5AM Discussion this morning, in which he talks about how the main difference in the models is how they handle the development and future track of a mid- to upper level-low currently near 34N 48W:

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WATER VAPOR WINDS SUGGEST THAT THE UPPER-LOW IS STRONGER THAN ALL OF THE MODELS HAVE BEEN FORECASTING. HOWEVER...THE MODEL THAT INITIALIZED THE LOW THE BEST AT 00Z WAS NOGAPS. THIS MODEL HAS BEEN VERY CONSISTENT...ALONG WITH THE ECMWF MODEL...ON BRINGING IVAN ACROSS WEST-DENTRAL CUBA AND THEN OVER OR NEAR THE FLORIDA PENINSULA. THE UKMET MODEL REMAINS THE WESTERNMOST OUTLIER...WHILE THE GFS IS STILL THE EASTERNMOST OUTLIER. HOWEVER...BOTH MODELS HAVE BEEN GRADUALLY SHIFTING THEIR TRACKS TOWARD FLORIDA...AND THE LATEST GFDL RUN NOW TAKES IVAN ACROSS SOUTHEAST FLORIDA IN 96-120 HOURS.. GIVEN THE BETTER AGREEMENT AMONG THE MODELS ON THIS FORECAST CYCLE...THE OFFICIAL TRACK IS CLOSE TO THE PREVIOUS FORECAST THROUGH 72 HOURS...AND THEN SHIFTED SLIGHTLY EASTWARD AT 96- AND 120 HR.




With the exception of the 2pm Accuweather projected path, the track has not made any dramatic shifts to the left OR the right since 5pm Wednesday night.

I'm not a met and I did not stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night, but based on several things I just can't see a track that doesn't having it make landfall somewhere along the west coast of Florida or just brushing it and moving up towards the Big Bend area. I can see either possibility happening, depending upon when/where/if Ivan makes a NW/N/NE turn, but I just don't see it as an AL/MS/LA storm.

Of course, this is just my unedumacated opinion, but I'm willing to stick my head out there and say, "Yes, this is a FLORIDA storm, more than likely following a polar path (south to north) and someone between the Big Bend and the Keys is going to get brushed or a direct hit and to go a little further, I'll say somewhere between Ft. Lauderdale and Cedar Key." If I'm wrong I'm wrong, if I'm right, I'll slap myself silly.
All of this of course, means that Ivan will take a sharp left turn and head towards Mexico for some tacos.

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* Ivan with Double Eyewalls? Weakens a bit MikeCAdministrator Fri Sep 10 2004 12:23 AM
. * * Thanks Sadie   Fri Sep 10 2004 12:17 AM
. * * Re: Ivan with Double Eyewalls? Weakens a bit captgene   Thu Sep 09 2004 11:26 PM
. * * Re: Ivan with Double Eyewalls? Weakens a bit captgene   Thu Sep 09 2004 10:54 PM
. * * Re: Ivan with Double Eyewalls? Weakens a bit/where this crap going? slwfreez   Thu Sep 09 2004 09:03 PM
. * * Re: Ivan with Double Eyewalls? Weakens a bit Bioman   Thu Sep 09 2004 08:29 PM
. * * Re: Ivan with Double Eyewalls? Weakens a bit BeachBum   Thu Sep 09 2004 10:49 PM
. * * Re: Ivan with Double Eyewalls? Weakens a bit Bioman   Thu Sep 09 2004 11:22 PM
. * * Re: Ivan with Double Eyewalls? Weakens a bit kelcot   Thu Sep 09 2004 10:57 PM
. * * Re: Ivan with Double Eyewalls? Weakens a bit kelcot   Thu Sep 09 2004 08:33 PM
. * * Re: Ivan with Double Eyewalls? Weakens a bit okiherdu   Thu Sep 09 2004 07:17 PM
. * * Map update SkeetoBiteAdministrator   Thu Sep 09 2004 05:36 PM
. * * Re: Ivan with Double Eyewalls? Weakens a bit Clark   Thu Sep 09 2004 05:11 PM
. * * For what it's worth... Clark   Thu Sep 09 2004 09:14 PM
. * * Re: For what it's worth... Rasvar   Thu Sep 09 2004 09:24 PM
. * * Re: For what it's worth... wezman1   Thu Sep 09 2004 09:28 PM
. * * Re: For what it's worth... MrSpock   Thu Sep 09 2004 09:34 PM
. * * Re: For what it's worth... Clark   Thu Sep 09 2004 09:29 PM
. * * Supplies in Manatee County Gone Bev   Thu Sep 09 2004 09:39 PM
. * * Re: Supplies in Manatee County Gone Clark   Thu Sep 09 2004 09:50 PM
. * * Re: Supplies in Manatee County Gone robynsmom   Thu Sep 09 2004 11:16 PM
. * * Re: Supplies in Manatee County Gone kelcot   Thu Sep 09 2004 09:58 PM
. * * Hmmmm StormHound   Thu Sep 09 2004 10:08 PM
. * * Re: Hmmmm Clark   Thu Sep 09 2004 10:22 PM
. * * Re: Hmmmm Rasvar   Thu Sep 09 2004 10:41 PM
. * * Re: Hmmmm BillD   Thu Sep 09 2004 10:47 PM
. * * Re: Hmmmm scottsvb1   Thu Sep 09 2004 10:44 PM
. * * Scottsvb StormHound   Thu Sep 09 2004 11:06 PM
. * * Re: Scottsvb StormHound   Thu Sep 09 2004 11:09 PM
. * * Re: Hmmmm BillD   Thu Sep 09 2004 10:52 PM
. * * Re: Hmmmm MikeCAdministrator   Thu Sep 09 2004 10:55 PM
. * * S.E. Fla in the clear based upon Spagetti? MIAMIFL   Thu Sep 09 2004 10:51 PM
. * * Re: S.E. Fla in the clear based upon Spagetti? Clark   Thu Sep 09 2004 11:06 PM
. * * Re: S.E. Fla in the clear based upon Spagetti? MikeCAdministrator   Thu Sep 09 2004 11:15 PM
. * * Maps SkeetoBiteAdministrator   Thu Sep 09 2004 11:22 PM
. * * Re: Maps Bev   Fri Sep 10 2004 01:12 AM
. * * Re: Maps rule   Thu Sep 09 2004 11:42 PM
. * * Re: Maps belleami   Thu Sep 09 2004 11:53 PM
. * * Re: Maps Bev   Fri Sep 10 2004 01:05 AM
. * * Re: Lived in Florida BeachBum   Fri Sep 10 2004 12:12 AM
. * * Re: Maps Terry Johnson   Thu Sep 09 2004 11:59 PM
. * * Re: Maps Wxwatcher2   Thu Sep 09 2004 11:34 PM
. * * Re: Maps Colleen A.   Fri Sep 10 2004 12:23 AM
. * * Re: Maps SirCane   Fri Sep 10 2004 12:36 AM
. * * Re: Maps mud1967   Fri Sep 10 2004 01:00 AM
. * * Re: Maps ewilby   Fri Sep 10 2004 01:24 AM
. * * Re: Maps Colleen A.   Fri Sep 10 2004 01:08 AM
. * * Re: Maps mud1967   Fri Sep 10 2004 01:21 AM
. * * Re: Maps Colleen A.   Fri Sep 10 2004 01:43 AM
. * * Re: Maps mud1967   Fri Sep 10 2004 01:56 AM
. * * Re: Maps Colleen A.   Fri Sep 10 2004 02:08 AM
. * * Tampa Bay Area - Flood Waters Bev   Fri Sep 10 2004 02:02 AM
. * * Re: Maps scottsvb1   Fri Sep 10 2004 12:44 AM
. * * Re: Maps meto   Thu Sep 09 2004 11:44 PM
. * * Re: The Layout javlin   Fri Sep 10 2004 12:06 AM
. * * Re: The Layout SirCane   Fri Sep 10 2004 12:18 AM
. * * Re: Accu wx javlin   Fri Sep 10 2004 12:33 AM
. * * Re: Maps SirCane   Thu Sep 09 2004 11:27 PM
. * * Re: Maps juniorgirl   Thu Sep 09 2004 11:52 PM
. * * Re: Maps scottsvb1   Thu Sep 09 2004 11:29 PM
. * * Re: Maps sullynole   Thu Sep 09 2004 11:33 PM
. * * Tired of hurricanes... Clark   Thu Sep 09 2004 11:09 PM
. * * Re: Tired of hurricanes... mud1967   Fri Sep 10 2004 12:17 AM
. * * Re: Tired of hurricanes... Clark   Fri Sep 10 2004 12:21 AM
. * * Re: Tired of hurricanes... mud1967   Fri Sep 10 2004 12:48 AM
. * * Re: Tired of hurricanes... andy1tom   Thu Sep 09 2004 11:50 PM
. * * Re: Tired of hurricanes... Wxwatcher2   Fri Sep 10 2004 01:26 AM
. * * Re: Tired of hurricanes... BillD   Fri Sep 10 2004 12:31 AM
. * * Re: Tired of hurricanes... Clark   Fri Sep 10 2004 12:19 AM
. * * Re: Tired of hurricanes... andy1tom   Fri Sep 10 2004 12:24 AM
. * * Re: Tired of hurricanes... wxman007   Fri Sep 10 2004 12:35 AM
. * * Re: Tired of hurricanes... andy1tom   Fri Sep 10 2004 12:42 AM
. * * Re: Tired of hurricanes... Kimster   Fri Sep 10 2004 12:41 AM
. * * Re: Tired of hurricanes... wxman007   Fri Sep 10 2004 12:54 AM
. * * Re: Tired of hurricanes... mud1967   Fri Sep 10 2004 01:09 AM
. * * Re: Tired of hurricanes... ewilby   Fri Sep 10 2004 01:34 AM
. * * Re: Tired of hurricanes... Colleen A.   Fri Sep 10 2004 01:49 AM
. * * Re: Tired of hurricanes... Sissy   Fri Sep 10 2004 01:52 AM
. * * Model Shift Bev   Fri Sep 10 2004 02:12 AM
. * * Re: Model Shift scottsvb1   Fri Sep 10 2004 02:38 AM
. * * I need to go back to bed Rasvar   Fri Sep 10 2004 07:30 AM
. * * Re: I need to go back to bed recmod   Fri Sep 10 2004 07:34 AM
. * * Re: I need to go back to bed GuppieGrouper   Fri Sep 10 2004 07:41 AM
. * * Re: I need to go back to bed Rasvar   Fri Sep 10 2004 07:51 AM
. * * Wind Field Maps Justin in Miami   Fri Sep 10 2004 09:25 AM
. * * Re: Model Shift seems in agreement bobbi   Fri Sep 10 2004 07:30 AM
. * * Re: Tired of hurricanes... Wxwatcher2   Fri Sep 10 2004 01:58 AM
. * * Re: Tired of hurricanes... mud1967   Fri Sep 10 2004 01:48 AM
. * * Re: Tired of hurricanes... Wxwatcher2   Fri Sep 10 2004 01:59 AM
. * * Re: Tired of hurricanes... BillD   Thu Sep 09 2004 11:27 PM
. * * Re: Tired of hurricanes... belleami   Thu Sep 09 2004 11:33 PM
. * * Re: Tired of hurricanes... scottsvb1   Thu Sep 09 2004 11:35 PM
. * * Re: Tired of hurricanes... Wxwatcher2   Thu Sep 09 2004 11:36 PM
. * * Re: Tired of hurricanes... jaybythebay   Thu Sep 09 2004 11:19 PM
. * * Re: Tired of hurricanes... mud1967   Fri Sep 10 2004 12:08 AM
. * * Re: S.E. Fla in the clear based upon Spagetti? BillD   Thu Sep 09 2004 10:58 PM
. * * Re: S.E. Fla in the clear based upon Spagetti? scottsvb1   Thu Sep 09 2004 10:53 PM
. * * Re: S.E. Fla in the clear based upon Spagetti? scottsvb1   Thu Sep 09 2004 10:56 PM
. * * Re: Hmmmm StormHound   Thu Sep 09 2004 10:40 PM
. * * Re: Hmmmm rule   Thu Sep 09 2004 10:15 PM
. * * Re: Ivan possible postponements Jeffmidtown   Thu Sep 09 2004 09:49 PM
. * * Re: Supplies in Manatee County Gone Rasvar   Thu Sep 09 2004 09:46 PM
. * * Re: For what it's worth... Martha   Thu Sep 09 2004 09:36 PM
. * * Ever so slightly shifting west.... is this a trend? Frank P   Thu Sep 09 2004 05:09 PM
. * * Re: Ever so slightly shifting west.... is this a trend? Colleen A.   Thu Sep 09 2004 05:18 PM
. * * GFS Model VolusiaMike   Thu Sep 09 2004 05:35 PM
. * * Re: GFS Model MrSpock   Thu Sep 09 2004 05:47 PM
. * * Girls Lie too.... Frank P   Thu Sep 09 2004 05:35 PM
. * * Re: Girls Lie too.... MrSpock   Thu Sep 09 2004 05:46 PM
. * * Re: Girls Lie too.... Colleen A.   Thu Sep 09 2004 05:57 PM
. * * Re: Girls Lie too.... MrSpock   Thu Sep 09 2004 05:59 PM
. * * Latest Vortex recmod   Thu Sep 09 2004 06:53 PM
. * * Re: Latest Vortex Colleen A.   Thu Sep 09 2004 07:24 PM
. * * This was interesting belleami   Thu Sep 09 2004 07:34 PM
. * * Re: This was interesting DroopGB31   Thu Sep 09 2004 07:51 PM
. * * Re: This was interesting kelcot   Thu Sep 09 2004 08:00 PM
. * * Re: This was interesting Heather   Thu Sep 09 2004 08:06 PM
. * * Re: This was interesting BillD   Thu Sep 09 2004 08:28 PM
. * * Re: This was interesting Kevin   Thu Sep 09 2004 08:34 PM
. * * Re: This was interesting Heather   Thu Sep 09 2004 08:41 PM
. * * Re: This was interesting Terra   Thu Sep 09 2004 08:50 PM
. * * Re: This was interesting kelcot   Thu Sep 09 2004 08:04 PM
. * * Re: This was interesting HadItinOrlando   Thu Sep 09 2004 08:08 PM
. * * Re: This was interesting kelcot   Thu Sep 09 2004 08:21 PM
. * * Re: This was interesting kelcot   Thu Sep 09 2004 08:11 PM
. * * Here's your 8PM intermediate advisory... Kevin   Thu Sep 09 2004 08:05 PM
. * * Re: Here's your 8PM intermediate advisory... Kimster   Thu Sep 09 2004 08:16 PM
. * * Re: Here's your 8PM intermediate advisory... MrSpock   Thu Sep 09 2004 08:08 PM
. * * Vortex translation Frank P   Thu Sep 09 2004 08:13 PM
. * * Models Jamiewx   Thu Sep 09 2004 08:17 PM
. * * Re: Models Colleen A.   Thu Sep 09 2004 09:04 PM
. * * Re: Models meto   Thu Sep 09 2004 08:28 PM
. * * Re: Vortex translation MrSpock   Thu Sep 09 2004 08:17 PM
. * * Re: Vortex translation Rasvar   Thu Sep 09 2004 08:41 PM
. * * Re: Vortex translation Frank P   Thu Sep 09 2004 08:31 PM
. * * Re: Vortex translation MrSpock   Thu Sep 09 2004 08:40 PM
. * * Re: Vortex translation BillD   Thu Sep 09 2004 08:54 PM
. * * Models Wxwatcher2   Thu Sep 09 2004 09:04 PM
. * * Re: Models wxman007   Thu Sep 09 2004 09:08 PM
. * * Re: Models andy1tom   Thu Sep 09 2004 09:39 PM
. * * Re: Vortex translation rd522525   Thu Sep 09 2004 08:38 PM
. * * Re: Vortex translation Kevin   Thu Sep 09 2004 08:28 PM
. * * Re: Latest Vortex Wxwatcher2   Thu Sep 09 2004 07:32 PM
. * * Grenada, Frances, Apprentice, RUReady for... LI Phil   Thu Sep 09 2004 07:23 PM
. * * Re: Grenada, Frances, Apprentice, RUReady for... Colleen A.   Thu Sep 09 2004 07:43 PM
. * * Re: Grenada, Frances, Apprentice, RUReady for... trinibaje   Thu Sep 09 2004 07:32 PM
. * * Re: Ivan with Double Eyewalls? Weakens a bit LI Phil   Thu Sep 09 2004 05:05 PM
. * * Re: Ivan with Double Eyewalls? Weakens a bit LI Phil   Thu Sep 09 2004 05:07 PM
. * * thanks for all the excellent discussion the gulf   Thu Sep 09 2004 05:55 PM
. * * Thoughts.... wxman007   Thu Sep 09 2004 05:14 PM
. * * Re: Ivan with Double Eyewalls? Weakens a bit Steve   Thu Sep 09 2004 05:12 PM

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