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ivan/little else
      Fri Sep 10 2004 09:17 PM

ivan should be making an impact on the gulf coast.. probably on tuesday. i've been hanging on a west florida hit below apalachicola.. going to narrow my window from st marks down to naples now. late tomorrow i'll be ready to draw an X.
with almost utter certainty that florida takes a hit on the gulf side, intensity is the big question remaining. latest IR shows a reorganizing inner core.. wouldn't be surprised if the storm goes back to borderline 5 as it impacts jamaica later. the official track has it grazing the southwest side of jamaica.. i'm expecting it to go onshore, with the capital seeing eyewall effects. right of the caymans as a 4, and a cuba crossing south of the florida keys..also as a 4, with the storm having turned nnw at that point. final impact on west florida should be a cat 2 or 3. the higher up the coast it hits, the weaker. kinda duh, since this is more or less the official, but i'm thinking the official is on the ball for now.
one thing not previously mentioned that troubles me greatly.. creeks and rivers are running high in much of florida, the southeast coastal plain, piedmont, and southern appalachians. with ivan progged to move over the same area, decelerating and bending back to the left as ridging rebuilds.. tremendous flooding potential exists in frances wake. the west coast of florida looks to take a hammer blow, but that likely won't be the end of the story.
elsewhere nothing exciting in the basin. weak low on a wave nearing the islands (14/58 or so).. some convection, but it's awfully close behind ivan. low prob of development. wave midway between africa and the islands low-amplitude and indistinct. wave that left the coast yesterday with some amplitude and gyration near the cape verde islands.. not very perky at this point.
td 10 remnants south of the azores drifting SE.. ssts low and shear not good at this point, but it still has a comma-shaped convective signature sheared east.. and the upper environment should revert to ridging in a day or two.. don't expect anything though.
the complex upper trough/low arrangement in the central atlantic may beget a surface system, but too confused at this point to make any reasonable guesses. it has entrained lots of tropical energy, and plenty of low level convergence there.. just hasn't evolved to where it can spawn anything.
td 13e in the eastpac has another development counter going in the atlantic. may see another storm or two next week. peak of the season now.
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* Hurricane Ivan to Melee with Jamaica MikeCAdministrator Fri Sep 10 2004 09:17 PM
. * * Ivan core may miss Jamaica berrywr   Sat Sep 11 2004 02:39 AM
. * * Maps SkeetoBiteAdministrator   Fri Sep 10 2004 09:20 PM
. * * Re: Hurricane Ivan to Melee with Jamaica ShanaTX   Fri Sep 10 2004 09:00 PM
. * * Re: Hurricane Ivan to Melee with Jamaica rule   Fri Sep 10 2004 09:03 PM
. * * Re: Hurricane Ivan to Melee with Jamaica MO stormspotter   Fri Sep 10 2004 08:57 PM
. * * Re: Hurricane Ivan to Melee with Jamaica TLHJeff   Fri Sep 10 2004 09:32 PM
. * * Re: Hurricane Ivan to Melee with Jamaica SoonerShawn   Fri Sep 10 2004 09:36 PM
. * * Re: Hurricane Ivan to Melee with Jamaica MrSpock   Fri Sep 10 2004 09:02 PM
. * * ivan/little else HanKFranK   Fri Sep 10 2004 09:17 PM
. * * Re: ivan/little else LI Phil   Fri Sep 10 2004 09:22 PM
. * * Re: ivan/little else tenavilla   Fri Sep 10 2004 10:13 PM
. * * Re: ivan/little else sullynole   Fri Sep 10 2004 10:22 PM
. * * Steve Jerve & VIPIR Model Colleen A.   Sat Sep 11 2004 01:41 AM
. * * Re: Steve Jerve & VIPIR Model rule   Sat Sep 11 2004 01:48 AM
. * * Re: ivan/little else tenavilla   Fri Sep 10 2004 10:25 PM
. * * Re: ivan/little else sullynole   Fri Sep 10 2004 11:56 PM
. * * Re: ivan/little else tenavilla   Sat Sep 11 2004 12:05 AM
. * * Re: ivan/little else ThirdRay   Fri Sep 10 2004 10:49 PM
. * * Re: ivan/little else tenavilla   Fri Sep 10 2004 10:54 PM
. * * Re: ivan/little else tenavilla   Fri Sep 10 2004 10:59 PM
. * * Just an FYI wxman007   Fri Sep 10 2004 11:11 PM
. * * Re: Just an FYI ShaggyDude   Fri Sep 10 2004 11:15 PM
. * * Re: ivan/little else MrSpock   Fri Sep 10 2004 10:59 PM
. * * pressure drop MrSpock   Fri Sep 10 2004 10:52 PM
. * * Re: pressure drop MrSpock   Fri Sep 10 2004 10:53 PM
. * * Re: pressure drop ShaggyDude   Fri Sep 10 2004 10:53 PM
. * * Re: ivan/little else tenavilla   Fri Sep 10 2004 10:51 PM
. * * Re: ivan/little else meto   Fri Sep 10 2004 10:15 PM
. * * Re: ivan/little else HCW   Fri Sep 10 2004 10:41 PM
. * * Forecast tracks/Model Tracks... wxman007   Fri Sep 10 2004 10:48 PM
. * * Re: ivan/little else meto   Fri Sep 10 2004 10:45 PM
. * * Re: ivan/little else BillD   Fri Sep 10 2004 11:11 PM
. * * Re: ivan/little else ShaggyDude   Fri Sep 10 2004 11:44 PM
. * * Re: ivan/little else Heather   Fri Sep 10 2004 11:49 PM
. * * Re: ivan/little else DroopGB31   Fri Sep 10 2004 11:57 PM
. * * Meteorology vs. Psychology Bev   Sat Sep 11 2004 12:07 AM
. * * Re: Meteorology vs. Psychology BillD   Sat Sep 11 2004 12:14 AM
. * * Re: Meteorology vs. Psychology Rasvar   Sat Sep 11 2004 12:27 AM
. * * Tom Terry Colleen A.   Sat Sep 11 2004 02:17 AM
. * * Re: Tom Terry kelcot   Sat Sep 11 2004 02:19 AM
. * * Re: Tom Terry Colleen A.   Sat Sep 11 2004 02:33 AM
. * * Re: Tom Terry ShaggyDude   Sat Sep 11 2004 02:38 AM
. * * Re: Tom Terry Jeffmidtown   Sat Sep 11 2004 02:49 AM
. * * Re: Tom Terry rule   Sat Sep 11 2004 02:57 AM
. * * Re: Meteorology vs. Psychology MrSpock   Sat Sep 11 2004 12:19 AM
. * * Re: Meteorology vs. Psychology LI Phil   Sat Sep 11 2004 12:24 AM
. * * Re: Meteorology vs. Psychology ShaggyDude   Sat Sep 11 2004 12:30 AM
. * * Re: Meteorology vs. Psychology MrSpock   Sat Sep 11 2004 12:36 AM
. * * Question SoonerShawn   Sat Sep 11 2004 12:41 AM
. * * Re: Question MrSpock   Sat Sep 11 2004 12:45 AM
. * * Re: Question danielwAdministrator   Sat Sep 11 2004 12:51 AM
. * * Didn't see this till now... LI Phil   Sat Sep 11 2004 12:59 AM
. * * Re: Didn't see this till now... Keith234   Sat Sep 11 2004 01:01 AM
. * * Re: Didn't see this till now... rule   Sat Sep 11 2004 01:09 AM
. * * Re: Didn't see this till now... danielwAdministrator   Sat Sep 11 2004 01:17 AM
. * * Re: Didn't see this till now... danielwAdministrator   Sat Sep 11 2004 01:31 AM
. * * Orlando getting hurricane winds? Hurricaned   Sat Sep 11 2004 01:34 AM
. * * Re: Didn't see this till now... meto   Sat Sep 11 2004 01:25 AM
. * * JB Jamiewx   Sat Sep 11 2004 01:16 AM
. * * Re: JB ShaggyDude   Sat Sep 11 2004 01:18 AM
. * * Re: Punta Gorda evacuations Felix   Sat Sep 11 2004 01:29 AM
. * * Re: Punta Gorda evacuations LindaG   Sat Sep 11 2004 01:33 AM
. * * Re: Punta Gorda evacuations Felix   Sat Sep 11 2004 01:34 AM
. * * Re: Punta Gorda evacuations DroopGB31   Sat Sep 11 2004 01:47 AM
. * * Re: Punta Gorda evacuations Lake Toho - Kissimmee   Sat Sep 11 2004 01:54 AM
. * * Re: Punta Gorda evacuations rule   Sat Sep 11 2004 02:05 AM
. * * Re: Punta Gorda evacuations Colleen A.   Sat Sep 11 2004 02:30 AM
. * * Re: Punta Gorda evacuations rule   Sat Sep 11 2004 02:41 AM
. * * 11:00 Discussion rule   Sat Sep 11 2004 02:47 AM
. * * Re: 11:00 Discussion HMY   Sat Sep 11 2004 02:51 AM
. * * Probabilities will go up along the entire Fl coast over time Frank P   Sat Sep 11 2004 03:03 AM
. * * Re: 11:00 Discussion Rasvar   Sat Sep 11 2004 03:02 AM
. * * Re: 11:00 Discussion LI Phil   Sat Sep 11 2004 03:03 AM
. * * Use The New Thread Please Ed DunhamAdministrator   Sat Sep 11 2004 03:12 AM
. * * NEW THREAD LI Phil   Sat Sep 11 2004 02:53 AM
. * * Re: Punta Gorda evacuations meto   Sat Sep 11 2004 01:58 AM
. * * Re: Punta Gorda evacuations meto   Sat Sep 11 2004 02:04 AM
. * * Trough SoonerShawn   Sat Sep 11 2004 02:10 AM
. * * devastation Rasvar   Sat Sep 11 2004 12:55 AM
. * * Re: devastation danielwAdministrator   Sat Sep 11 2004 01:04 AM
. * * Re: devastation Frank P   Sat Sep 11 2004 01:30 AM
. * * Re: devastation rule   Sat Sep 11 2004 01:44 AM
. * * Re: devastation tazmanian93   Sat Sep 11 2004 02:02 AM
. * * Re: Ivan Update danielwAdministrator   Sat Sep 11 2004 02:07 AM
. * * Re: Ivan Update MrSpock   Sat Sep 11 2004 02:10 AM
. * * Re: Ivan Update ShaggyDude   Sat Sep 11 2004 02:09 AM
. * * Re: devastation h2ocean   Sat Sep 11 2004 01:54 AM
. * * Re: devastation BillD   Sat Sep 11 2004 02:15 AM
. * * Re: devastation Lake Toho - Kissimmee   Sat Sep 11 2004 02:26 AM
. * * Re: devastation LI Phil   Sat Sep 11 2004 02:19 AM
. * * Re: devastation rd522525   Sat Sep 11 2004 02:26 AM
. * * Re: devastation kelcot   Sat Sep 11 2004 02:28 AM
. * * Re: devastation LI Phil   Sat Sep 11 2004 02:27 AM
. * * Re: devastation 52255225   Sat Sep 11 2004 02:33 AM
. * * Re: devastation kelcot   Sat Sep 11 2004 02:30 AM
. * * Re: devastation TinaLee   Sat Sep 11 2004 02:32 AM
. * * Re: devastation h2ocean   Sat Sep 11 2004 02:23 AM
. * * Re: devastation MrSpock   Sat Sep 11 2004 02:33 AM
. * * Re: devastation troy   Sat Sep 11 2004 02:27 AM
. * * Re: devastation richiesurfs   Sat Sep 11 2004 02:42 AM
. * * Re: Tom Terry TinaLee   Sat Sep 11 2004 02:29 AM
. * * Re: devastation h2ocean   Sat Sep 11 2004 01:54 AM
. * * Re: Question danielwAdministrator   Sat Sep 11 2004 01:52 AM
. * * Re: Question LI Phil   Sat Sep 11 2004 01:56 AM
. * * Re: Question DroopGB31   Sat Sep 11 2004 02:04 AM
. * * Looters and other pleasant folk LI Phil   Sat Sep 11 2004 02:11 AM
. * * Re: Looters and other pleasant folk danielwAdministrator   Sat Sep 11 2004 02:16 AM
. * * Re: Looters and other pleasant folk MrSpock   Sat Sep 11 2004 02:15 AM
. * * Re: Recon danielwAdministrator   Sat Sep 11 2004 01:54 AM
. * * Re: devastation kelcot   Sat Sep 11 2004 01:50 AM
. * * Re: Question HCW   Sat Sep 11 2004 12:44 AM
. * * Re: Meteorology vs. Psychology Wxwatcher2   Sat Sep 11 2004 12:32 AM
. * * Hang on Jamaica rule   Sat Sep 11 2004 12:49 AM
. * * Re: Meteorology vs. Psychology DroopGB31   Sat Sep 11 2004 12:46 AM
. * * Re: Meteorology vs. Psychology ShaggyDude   Sat Sep 11 2004 12:50 AM
. * * Re: Meteorology vs. Psychology StormHound   Sat Sep 11 2004 12:43 AM
. * * Last GFS 18 UTC RBL   Sat Sep 11 2004 12:38 AM
. * * Re: Last GFS 18 UTC ShaggyDude   Sat Sep 11 2004 12:43 AM
. * * Re: And now back to Ivan danielwAdministrator   Sat Sep 11 2004 12:43 AM
. * * Re: Meteorology vs. Psychology ShaggyDude   Sat Sep 11 2004 12:37 AM
. * * Re: Meteorology vs. Psychology LI Phil   Sat Sep 11 2004 12:32 AM
. * * Re: Meteorology vs. Psychology MrSpock   Sat Sep 11 2004 12:28 AM
. * * Re: Meteorology vs. Psychology danielwAdministrator   Sat Sep 11 2004 12:12 AM
. * * Re: Meteorology vs. Psychology Heather   Sat Sep 11 2004 12:10 AM
. * * Re: ivan/little else LI Phil   Sat Sep 11 2004 12:02 AM
. * * Site Problems/WV Loops LI Phil   Fri Sep 10 2004 11:49 PM
. * * Stronger Ivan ShaggyDude   Fri Sep 10 2004 11:55 PM
. * * Re: ivan/little else tenavilla   Fri Sep 10 2004 10:46 PM
. * * Re: Hurricane Ivan to Melee with Jamaica ShaggyDude   Fri Sep 10 2004 08:55 PM
. * * Re: Hurricane Ivan to Melee with Jamaica AgentB   Fri Sep 10 2004 09:04 PM
. * * Re: Hurricane Ivan to Melee with Jamaica G8R   Fri Sep 10 2004 09:01 PM
. * * Re: Hurricane Ivan to Melee with Jamaica meto   Fri Sep 10 2004 09:39 PM
. * * Re: Hurricane Ivan to Melee with Jamaica Frank P   Fri Sep 10 2004 09:46 PM
. * * Re: Hurricane Ivan to Melee with Jamaica MrSpock   Fri Sep 10 2004 09:05 PM
. * * Re: Hurricane Ivan to Melee with Jamaica Terra   Fri Sep 10 2004 09:11 PM
. * * Re: Hurricane Ivan to Melee with Jamaica GaryC   Fri Sep 10 2004 09:03 PM
. * * Hail? LI Phil   Fri Sep 10 2004 09:06 PM
. * * Re: Hail? wxman007   Fri Sep 10 2004 09:13 PM
. * * Re: Hail? LI Phil   Fri Sep 10 2004 09:16 PM
. * * Re: Hail? wxman007   Fri Sep 10 2004 09:22 PM
. * * Kingston Call Lake Toho - Kissimmee   Fri Sep 10 2004 09:18 PM
. * * Re: Hail? MrSpock   Fri Sep 10 2004 09:08 PM
. * * Re: Hail? & ? for Jason Colleen A.   Fri Sep 10 2004 09:24 PM
. * * Re: Hail? & ? for Jason wxman007   Fri Sep 10 2004 09:40 PM
. * * Models Changes Timothy   Fri Sep 10 2004 09:48 PM
. * * Re: Hail? & ? for Jason Colleen A.   Fri Sep 10 2004 09:45 PM
. * * Re: Hail? & ? for Jason ShaggyDude   Fri Sep 10 2004 09:27 PM
. * * Re: Hail? & ? for Jason ShanaTX   Fri Sep 10 2004 09:53 PM
. * * Re: Hail? & ? for Jason wxman007   Fri Sep 10 2004 09:55 PM
. * * Re: Hail? & ? for Jason ShaggyDude   Fri Sep 10 2004 09:57 PM
. * * Re: Hail? & ? for Jason meto   Fri Sep 10 2004 10:07 PM
. * * back on track rule   Fri Sep 10 2004 10:26 PM
. * * Meto SoonerShawn   Fri Sep 10 2004 10:22 PM
. * * Re: Meto tenavilla   Fri Sep 10 2004 10:27 PM
. * * Re: Hail? & ? for Jason Colleen A.   Fri Sep 10 2004 09:30 PM
. * * Re: Hail? & ? for Jason ShaggyDude   Fri Sep 10 2004 09:34 PM
. * * Ivan SoonerShawn   Fri Sep 10 2004 09:14 PM
. * * Re: Ivan MrSpock   Fri Sep 10 2004 09:23 PM
. * * By the way... SoonerShawn   Fri Sep 10 2004 09:17 PM
. * * Re: Hail? LI Phil   Fri Sep 10 2004 09:10 PM
. * * Re: Hail? rule   Fri Sep 10 2004 09:13 PM
. * * Re: Hurricane Ivan to Melee with Jamaica G8R   Fri Sep 10 2004 09:03 PM
. * * Re: Hurricane Ivan to Melee with Jamaica rule   Fri Sep 10 2004 09:07 PM
. * * Re: Hurricane Ivan to Melee with Jamaica ShaggyDude   Fri Sep 10 2004 09:18 PM
. * * THANK YOU ALL belleami   Fri Sep 10 2004 08:54 PM
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. * * Re: Hurricane Ivan to Melee with Jamaica LI Phil   Fri Sep 10 2004 08:47 PM

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