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MrSpock
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Sun Sep 12 2004 08:17 PM

According to the water vapor loop, it looks like traffic has come to a screaching halt. The ULL over Bermuda hasn't budged, the trough is VERY slowly digging into the upper Gulf coast, but the ridge is still building overtop in North Dakota. The ULL over Memphis is moving very slowly. It's almost like the irresistible force meeting the immovable object. It is no surprse that the trough in the central part of the country is taking on a negative tilt.
For the benefit of the new people, I'll explain a couple of things. First, ULL = upper level low. They are responsible for the breaking down of ridges that have been causing the wnw motion, and act to "draw" up tropical systems. Having said that, this is a monster to try to "draw".
A negative tilt trough is one that actually wraps the flow around it, so you get some NW motion over top the ULL. These tend to be slower moving systems, that can close off, and get stuck, or they can open up and lift out. This is forecast to open up, and within 4 days, the ULL is expected to be centered over Pa., which is quite a while to move that distance. The strongest of troughs go negative tilt, and if one is going to turn Ivan, it had better be a strong one, hence the expectations to turn the storm NW, then North.
I hope I explained that well, and accurately.

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Ivan to Know Where it Goes	MikeC	Sun Sep 12 2004 08:17 PM
Ivan, Ivan, Ivan	Clark	Sun Sep 12 2004 10:48 PM
Re: Ivan to Know Where it Goes	Cocoa Beach	Sun Sep 12 2004 07:03 PM
Re: Ivan to Know Where it Goes	FLHotti	Sun Sep 12 2004 07:02 PM
Re: Ivan to Know Where it Goes	Breeezy	Sun Sep 12 2004 07:37 PM
Re: Ivan to Know Where it Goes	captgene	Sun Sep 12 2004 06:57 PM
Re: Ivan to Know Where it Goes	captgene	Sun Sep 12 2004 06:53 PM
Re: Ivan to Know Where it Goes	Jultime	Sun Sep 12 2004 06:52 PM
Re: Ivan to Know Where it Goes	MrSpock	Sun Sep 12 2004 06:58 PM
Interesting comment from a New Orleans Met on the FSU SE	Frank P	Sun Sep 12 2004 07:03 PM
Re: Interesting comment from a New Orleans Met on the FSU SE	Clark	Sun Sep 12 2004 10:00 PM
Re: Interesting comment from a New Orleans Met on the FSU SE	Marknole	Sun Sep 12 2004 08:27 PM
Re: Interesting comment from a New Orleans Met on the FSU SE	jth	Sun Sep 12 2004 08:35 PM
Re: Interesting comment from a New Orleans Met on the FSU SE	danielw	Sun Sep 12 2004 07:05 PM
Re: Ivan to Know Where it Goes	KJJBCr	Sun Sep 12 2004 06:51 PM
Re: Ivan to Know Where it Goes	Colleen A.	Sun Sep 12 2004 06:56 PM
Re: Ivan to Know Where it Goes	MrSpock	Sun Sep 12 2004 06:53 PM
Re: Ivan to Know Where it Goes	Sadie	Sun Sep 12 2004 05:16 PM
Re: Ivan to Know Where it Goes	TAZRACER	Sun Sep 12 2004 05:29 PM
Re: Ivan to Know Where it Goes	LI Phil	Sun Sep 12 2004 05:11 PM
Something to consider....	wxman007	Sun Sep 12 2004 05:17 PM
Re: Something to consider....	MrSpock	Sun Sep 12 2004 05:19 PM
Re: Something to consider....	Wxwatcher2	Sun Sep 12 2004 05:23 PM
Re: Something to consider....	Keith234	Sun Sep 12 2004 05:29 PM
Re: Something to consider....	RevUp	Sun Sep 12 2004 05:44 PM
Re: Something to consider....	SoonerShawn	Sun Sep 12 2004 05:35 PM
Re: Something to consider....	Keith234	Sun Sep 12 2004 05:42 PM
Re: Something to consider....	Daytonaman	Sun Sep 12 2004 05:50 PM
Re: Something to consider....	Keith234	Sun Sep 12 2004 06:06 PM
Re: Something to consider....	Gumby/Pensacola	Sun Sep 12 2004 05:55 PM
Re: Something to consider....	Frank P	Sun Sep 12 2004 06:00 PM
WISHCASTING	Colleen A.	Sun Sep 12 2004 06:10 PM
Re: WISHCASTING	Gumby/Pensacola	Sun Sep 12 2004 06:24 PM
Re: WISHCASTING	Frank P	Sun Sep 12 2004 06:36 PM
Re: WISHCASTING	Colleen A.	Sun Sep 12 2004 06:43 PM
Re: WISHCASTING	BillD	Sun Sep 12 2004 06:31 PM
Re: WISHCASTING	LI Phil	Sun Sep 12 2004 06:38 PM
Re: WISHCASTING	BillD	Sun Sep 12 2004 07:01 PM
WHAT THE HE_ _!	SoonerShawn	Sun Sep 12 2004 06:56 PM
Re: WHAT THE HE_ _!	BillD	Sun Sep 12 2004 07:07 PM
By the way...	SoonerShawn	Sun Sep 12 2004 07:14 PM
Re: WISHCASTING	MrSpock	Sun Sep 12 2004 06:48 PM
Re: WISHCASTING	LI Phil	Sun Sep 12 2004 06:56 PM
Re: WISHCASTING	MrSpock	Sun Sep 12 2004 07:01 PM
Re: WISHCASTING	KC	Sun Sep 12 2004 07:07 PM
Re: WISHCASTING	RevUp	Sun Sep 12 2004 06:56 PM
Re: WISHCASTING	Keith234	Sun Sep 12 2004 06:55 PM
Re: WISHCASTING	MrSpock	Sun Sep 12 2004 06:29 PM
Re: WISHCASTING	andy1tom	Sun Sep 12 2004 06:57 PM
Re: WISHCASTING	RevUp	Sun Sep 12 2004 07:04 PM
Re: WISHCASTING	Terra	Sun Sep 12 2004 07:11 PM
N'awlens Not Evacuating ...	Frank P	Sun Sep 12 2004 07:26 PM
Recon Question	recmod	Sun Sep 12 2004 07:34 PM
Re: Recon Question	BillD	Sun Sep 12 2004 07:41 PM
Re: Recon Question	MrSpock	Sun Sep 12 2004 07:44 PM
Re: Recon Question	BillD	Sun Sep 12 2004 07:46 PM
Re: Recon Question	danielw	Sun Sep 12 2004 08:01 PM
Re: Recon Question	HCW	Sun Sep 12 2004 07:56 PM
Re: Recon Question	KJJBCr	Sun Sep 12 2004 08:05 PM
Models	Terra	Sun Sep 12 2004 08:08 PM
Re: Models	andy1tom	Sun Sep 12 2004 08:28 PM
Re: Models	KJJBCr	Sun Sep 12 2004 08:36 PM
Re: Models	sullynole	Sun Sep 12 2004 08:22 PM
atmosphere	MrSpock	Sun Sep 12 2004 08:17 PM
Re: atmosphere	GuppieGrouper	Sun Sep 12 2004 08:22 PM
Re: atmosphere	MrSpock	Sun Sep 12 2004 08:38 PM
Re: Models	dani	Sun Sep 12 2004 08:13 PM
Predictions	WXMAN RICHIE	Sun Sep 12 2004 08:26 PM
Re: Predictions	rule	Sun Sep 12 2004 08:47 PM
Re: Predictions	HMY	Sun Sep 12 2004 08:38 PM
Re: Predictions	GuppieGrouper	Sun Sep 12 2004 08:33 PM
Re: Predictions	Terra	Sun Sep 12 2004 08:46 PM
Eye Replacement?	SoonerShawn	Sun Sep 12 2004 08:49 PM
Re: Eye Replacement?	SoonerShawn	Sun Sep 12 2004 08:51 PM
Re: Predictions	rule	Sun Sep 12 2004 08:49 PM
Re: Predictions	Terra	Sun Sep 12 2004 08:37 PM
Re: Predictions	ShaggyDude	Sun Sep 12 2004 08:35 PM
Re: Predictions	ShaggyDude	Sun Sep 12 2004 08:37 PM
Re: Predictions	MrSpock	Sun Sep 12 2004 08:47 PM
Re: Predictions	ShaggyDude	Sun Sep 12 2004 08:59 PM
Re: Predictions	MrSpock	Sun Sep 12 2004 09:03 PM
Re: Predictions	Breeezy	Sun Sep 12 2004 08:33 PM
Re: Predictions	WXMAN RICHIE	Sun Sep 12 2004 09:22 PM
Re: Predictions	LI Phil	Sun Sep 12 2004 09:31 PM
Re: Predictions	clueless	Sun Sep 12 2004 09:48 PM
Re: Predictions	ShaggyDude	Sun Sep 12 2004 09:51 PM
Re: Predictions	LI Phil	Sun Sep 12 2004 09:54 PM
Re: Predictions	GainesvilleGuest	Sun Sep 12 2004 10:19 PM
Re: Predictions	ShaggyDude	Sun Sep 12 2004 10:00 PM
Re: Predictions	rule	Sun Sep 12 2004 10:06 PM
Re: Predictions	ShaggyDude	Sun Sep 12 2004 10:09 PM
Re: Vortex	danielw	Sun Sep 12 2004 10:09 PM
Re: Vortex	LI Phil	Sun Sep 12 2004 10:10 PM
Re: Vortex	rule	Sun Sep 12 2004 10:15 PM
Re: Vortex	ShaggyDude	Sun Sep 12 2004 10:13 PM
Re: Predictions	MrSpock	Sun Sep 12 2004 10:06 PM
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Re: Latest Recon	danielw	Sun Sep 12 2004 10:17 PM
Re: Latest Recon	Unregistered	Sun Sep 12 2004 10:20 PM
Re: Latest Recon	scottsvb1	Sun Sep 12 2004 10:26 PM
Re: Latest Recon	MrSpock	Sun Sep 12 2004 10:20 PM
Re: Latest Recon	rule	Sun Sep 12 2004 10:31 PM
Re: Latest Recon	MrSpock	Sun Sep 12 2004 10:40 PM
Re: Latest Recon	spook	Sun Sep 12 2004 10:34 PM
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Re: Predictions	KJJBCr	Sun Sep 12 2004 10:04 PM
Re: Predictions	Frank P	Sun Sep 12 2004 10:02 PM
Re: Predictions	ShaggyDude	Sun Sep 12 2004 10:04 PM
Re: Predictions	clueless	Sun Sep 12 2004 09:53 PM
Re: Predictions	Steve	Sun Sep 12 2004 09:26 PM
Re: Predictions	Breeezy	Sun Sep 12 2004 09:51 PM
Re: Predictions	sullynole	Sun Sep 12 2004 09:43 PM
Re: Predictions	Storm Cooper	Sun Sep 12 2004 09:49 PM
Cudo's to FOX NEWS	Wxwatcher2	Sun Sep 12 2004 10:28 PM
Re: Cudo's to FOX NEWS	dani	Sun Sep 12 2004 10:40 PM
Re: Cudo's to FOX NEWS	Terra	Sun Sep 12 2004 10:37 PM
Re: Cudo's to FOX NEWS	Frank P	Sun Sep 12 2004 10:40 PM
Re: Cudo's to FOX NEWS	Terra	Sun Sep 12 2004 10:43 PM
Re: Cudo's to FOX NEWS	TAZRACER	Sun Sep 12 2004 10:49 PM
Re: Cudo's to FOX NEWS	Kdubs	Sun Sep 12 2004 11:00 PM
Re: Cudo's to FOX NEWS	LI Phil	Sun Sep 12 2004 10:46 PM
11 pm Probabilities... never seen this before	Frank P	Sun Sep 12 2004 10:50 PM
Re: 11 pm Probabilities... never seen this before	DroopGB31	Sun Sep 12 2004 11:15 PM
Re: 11 pm Probabilities... never seen this before	CentralFlorida	Mon Sep 13 2004 03:44 PM
Re: 11 pm Probabilities... never seen this before	dolphinscry	Sun Sep 12 2004 11:10 PM
Re: 11 pm Probabilities... never seen this before	LI Phil	Sun Sep 12 2004 11:14 PM
Re: 11 pm Probabilities... never seen this before	danielw	Sun Sep 12 2004 11:01 PM
NEW THREAD!	LI Phil	Sun Sep 12 2004 11:03 PM
Re: 11 pm Probabilities... never seen this before	TAZRACER	Sun Sep 12 2004 11:00 PM
Re: 11 pm Probabilities... never seen this before	Jeffmidtown	Sun Sep 12 2004 10:58 PM
Re: Models	MrSpock	Sun Sep 12 2004 08:20 PM
Re: Models	Frank P	Sun Sep 12 2004 08:25 PM
Re: Models	danielw	Sun Sep 12 2004 08:32 PM
Another historic tropical week ahead perhaps....	Frank P	Sun Sep 12 2004 08:46 PM
Major Eyewall Replacement Occurring	TheElNino	Sun Sep 12 2004 08:52 PM
Re: Major Eyewall Replacement Occurring	Steve	Sun Sep 12 2004 09:04 PM
Re: Major Eyewall Replacement Occurring	SirCane1	Sun Sep 12 2004 09:57 PM
Re: Major Eyewall Replacement Occurring	Frank P	Sun Sep 12 2004 08:58 PM
Re: Major Eyewall Replacement Occurring	andy1tom	Sun Sep 12 2004 09:32 PM
Re: Major Eyewall Replacement Occurring	rule	Sun Sep 12 2004 08:57 PM
Re: Major Eyewall Replacement Occurring	ShaggyDude	Sun Sep 12 2004 09:06 PM
Re: Major Eyewall Replacement Occurring	MrSpock	Sun Sep 12 2004 09:00 PM
Re: Major Eyewall Replacement Occurring	rule	Sun Sep 12 2004 09:10 PM
Re: Major Eyewall Replacement Occurring	MrSpock	Sun Sep 12 2004 09:19 PM
Re: Major Eyewall Replacement Occurring	rule	Sun Sep 12 2004 09:29 PM
Re: Major Eyewall Replacement Occurring	ShaggyDude	Sun Sep 12 2004 09:35 PM
Re: Major Eyewall Replacement Occurring	rule	Sun Sep 12 2004 09:50 PM
Re: Major Eyewall Replacement Occurring	SoonerShawn	Sun Sep 12 2004 09:40 PM
Re: Major Eyewall Replacement Occurring	meto	Sun Sep 12 2004 09:07 PM
Re: Major Eyewall Replacement Occurring	SoonerShawn	Sun Sep 12 2004 09:14 PM
Re: Models	sullynole	Sun Sep 12 2004 08:18 PM
Re: Recon Question	KJJBCr	Sun Sep 12 2004 08:07 PM
Re: Recon Question	Keith234	Sun Sep 12 2004 08:04 PM
Check out this picture of Gilbert from LSU earth scan labs...	teal61	Sun Sep 12 2004 08:03 PM
Re: Recon Question	Nolefan	Sun Sep 12 2004 07:50 PM
Re: Recon Question	MrSpock	Sun Sep 12 2004 08:02 PM
Re: Recon Question	BillD	Sun Sep 12 2004 08:01 PM
Re: Recon Question	MrSpock	Sun Sep 12 2004 07:48 PM
Re: N'awlens Not Evacuating ...	Terra	Sun Sep 12 2004 07:34 PM
Re: Something to consider....	Gumby/Pensacola	Sun Sep 12 2004 06:06 PM
Re: Something to consider....	Frank P	Sun Sep 12 2004 06:18 PM
Re: Something to consider....	Daytonaman	Sun Sep 12 2004 06:03 PM
Re: Something to consider....	LI Phil	Sun Sep 12 2004 06:02 PM
rumor?	waatcher	Sun Sep 12 2004 05:58 PM
Re: rumor?	MikeC	Sun Sep 12 2004 05:59 PM
Re: rumor?	waatcher	Sun Sep 12 2004 06:07 PM
Re: rumor?	MrSpock	Sun Sep 12 2004 06:04 PM
Re: Something to consider....	LI Phil	Sun Sep 12 2004 05:26 PM
Re: Something to consider....	KJJBCr	Sun Sep 12 2004 05:36 PM
Charter member of the JK fan club?	LI Phil	Sun Sep 12 2004 05:40 PM
Re: Charter member of the JK fan club?	wxman007	Sun Sep 12 2004 05:44 PM
Re: Charter member of the JK fan club?	SoonerShawn	Sun Sep 12 2004 05:49 PM
Re: Charter member of the JK fan club?	Orlando	Sun Sep 12 2004 05:55 PM
Re: Charter member of the JK fan club?	meto	Sun Sep 12 2004 05:59 PM
Re: Charter member of the JK fan club?	Wxwatcher2	Sun Sep 12 2004 06:22 PM
Re: Charter member of the JK fan club?	GuppieGrouper	Sun Sep 12 2004 06:06 PM
TWC/Jason Kelly	Colleen A.	Sun Sep 12 2004 06:04 PM
Re: TWC/Jason Kelly	wxman007	Sun Sep 12 2004 06:10 PM
Re: TWC/Jason Kelly	jthhome	Sun Sep 12 2004 06:15 PM
Re: TWC/Jason Kelly	wxman007	Sun Sep 12 2004 06:21 PM
Re: TWC/Jason Kelly	LI Phil	Sun Sep 12 2004 06:12 PM
Re: TWC/Jason Kelly	BillD	Sun Sep 12 2004 06:18 PM
Re: TWC/Jason Kelly	LI Phil	Sun Sep 12 2004 06:22 PM
Re: TWC/Jason Kelly	gonyen	Sun Sep 12 2004 07:13 PM
Re: LSU -24C line	danielw	Sun Sep 12 2004 07:25 PM
Re: LSU -24C line	gonyen	Sun Sep 12 2004 07:34 PM
Re: TWC/Jason Kelly	MikeC	Sun Sep 12 2004 06:13 PM
Re: TWC/Jason Kelly	Redbird	Sun Sep 12 2004 06:23 PM
site donation	rule	Sun Sep 12 2004 06:55 PM
NW or WNW?	Frank P	Sun Sep 12 2004 05:55 PM
Re: Charter member of the JK fan club?	MrSpock	Sun Sep 12 2004 05:44 PM
Re: Something to consider....	MikeC	Sun Sep 12 2004 05:38 PM
Re: Something to consider....	LI Phil	Sun Sep 12 2004 05:18 PM
Re: Something to consider....	Colleen A.	Sun Sep 12 2004 05:29 PM
Re: Something to consider....	BillD	Sun Sep 12 2004 05:23 PM
Re: Something to consider....	Keith234	Sun Sep 12 2004 05:22 PM

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