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Post From Colleen from the previous thread
      Tue Sep 14 2004 03:44 PM

Normally I don't do this, but Colleen put considerable time and energy into this post...

If anyone looked at the picture they just showed on the Weather Channel, it certainly looked to be going NORTH at THAT PRECISE MOMENT IN TIME.
People are allowed to say what they see, and I don't think that meto was "wishcasting" anything.
As far as the storm not turning, at this point, I think that the NHC is becoming more confident in it's track and I do not think that Ivan will make a hard right and turn into Tampa Bay. That being said, today is Tuesday, landfall is supposed to occur around Thursday. That's 2 days away. I believe with Frances 2 days out they were forecasting it to possibly move up the coast of the Carolinas, and even some people here were agreeing with that forecast. The bottom line is this: Frances turned, Charley turned. When did they turn? Charley turned about 4 hours before he was supposed to hit Tampa. Frances turned and kept everyone on their toes for about 12 hours. I don't think it was until she almost made landfall that they were able to nail the precise place. Two days out, a little shove to the north, maybe a little bit of of turn to the east and the forecast changes again for a whole lot of people. I'm not say this is going to happen, I'm saying it's POSSIBLE. Hopefully, the models have a good handle on this thing right now and we're only 2 days away so I don't see a huge track shift coming in the future.
Tarpon---this is kind of ironic, but you posted about Dennis Phillips and how irresponsible his comments were last night. I watched him and he said "IF THIS NORTHWARD MOVEMENT CONTINUES, AND IT COULD BE JUST A JOG, THEN I WOULD EXPECT TO SEE A CHANGE IN THE TRACK TO THE RIGHT". He was correct about the models not getting the new info because it had just started that trend. At 5:15pm, only two of the models had the new info and they DID swing it to the right. However, if you listened to him during the following hours, he corrected himself many times, as he was doing updates every 1/2 hour. I was watching the game and I saw him. At 12:something, he said it WAS JUST A JOG. I don't think he was being irresponsible. The reason I say it is ironic is because when I was on him about Frances, you were defending him as being one of the best out there. Go figure. Just like us, he saw the northward movement, too. Then it moved again to the NW.

I think all Floridians are a little uncomfortable and testy right now. We've been on STORM ALERT mode for over a month. Nerves are frayed, tempers are flaring and these things bring out the best and worst of us. We need to try and remember that when posting to one another. We're all in the same boat. I know I said a lot of prayers last night asking that this storm comes in well below a Cat 5 because after seeing two come directly over me, a Cat 1 isn't any fun either.

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* Ivan Weakens Slightly and Tropical Storm Jeanne Forms MikeCAdministrator Tue Sep 14 2004 03:44 PM
. * * Please let that be a jog Bloodstar   Tue Sep 14 2004 08:04 PM
. * * Re: Please let that be a jog FireAng85   Tue Sep 14 2004 08:18 PM
. * * Re: Please let that be a jog doug   Tue Sep 14 2004 08:30 PM
. * * 5:00 LI Phil   Tue Sep 14 2004 08:34 PM
. * * Re: 5:00 doug   Tue Sep 14 2004 08:37 PM
. * * Re: 5:00 Renee   Tue Sep 14 2004 08:54 PM
. * * Re: 5:00 mud1967   Tue Sep 14 2004 09:08 PM
. * * Re: 5:00 andy1tom   Tue Sep 14 2004 09:15 PM
. * * Re: 5:00 LI Phil   Tue Sep 14 2004 09:03 PM
. * * Re: 5:00 mud1967   Tue Sep 14 2004 09:11 PM
. * * Re: Please let that be a jog Bloodstar   Tue Sep 14 2004 08:26 PM
. * * Re: Ivan Weakens Slightly and Tropical Storm Jeanne Forms LI Phil   Tue Sep 14 2004 03:18 PM
. * * Re: Ivan Weakens Slightly and Tropical Storm Jeanne Forms tpratch   Tue Sep 14 2004 04:02 PM
. * * Re: Ivan Weakens Slightly and Tropical Storm Jeanne Forms Cane Watcher   Tue Sep 14 2004 04:09 PM
. * * Gravity Waves LI Phil   Tue Sep 14 2004 04:13 PM
. * * Re: Gravity Waves Mongo   Tue Sep 14 2004 04:29 PM
. * * Re: Gravity Waves kelcot   Tue Sep 14 2004 04:31 PM
. * * Atlanta Colleen A.   Tue Sep 14 2004 04:47 PM
. * * Re: Atlanta kelcot   Tue Sep 14 2004 04:55 PM
. * * Re: Atlanta Mozart   Tue Sep 14 2004 04:55 PM
. * * Re: Atlanta doug   Tue Sep 14 2004 04:51 PM
. * * Re: Gravity Waves Daytonaman   Tue Sep 14 2004 04:45 PM
. * * Re: Gravity Waves Colleen A.   Tue Sep 14 2004 04:53 PM
. * * Water vapor ddrehman   Tue Sep 14 2004 04:50 PM
. * * Re: Water vapor MrSpock   Tue Sep 14 2004 04:58 PM
. * * Re: Water vapor MrSpock   Tue Sep 14 2004 05:01 PM
. * * Re: Water vapor ddrehman   Tue Sep 14 2004 05:00 PM
. * * Re: Water vapor MrSpock   Tue Sep 14 2004 05:07 PM
. * * Rick on the Boat rmbjoe1954   Tue Sep 14 2004 05:17 PM
. * * Re: Rick on the Boat LI Phil   Tue Sep 14 2004 05:23 PM
. * * Re: Rick on the Boat Thunder   Tue Sep 14 2004 05:29 PM
. * * Re: Rick on the Boat andy1tom   Tue Sep 14 2004 05:36 PM
. * * Re: Rick on the Boat Colleen A.   Tue Sep 14 2004 05:44 PM
. * * Re: Rick on the Boat Storm Cooper   Tue Sep 14 2004 05:54 PM
. * * the 1:00 LI Phil   Tue Sep 14 2004 05:46 PM
. * * Re: the 1:00 MrSpock   Tue Sep 14 2004 05:48 PM
. * * Re: the 1:00 Colleen A.   Tue Sep 14 2004 05:50 PM
. * * Re: the 1:00 luki   Tue Sep 14 2004 05:57 PM
. * * Re: the 1:00 Storm Cooper   Tue Sep 14 2004 06:01 PM
. * * Re: the 1:00 LI Phil   Tue Sep 14 2004 06:00 PM
. * * Re: the 1:00 luki   Tue Sep 14 2004 06:05 PM
. * * Re: the 1:00 Storm Cooper   Tue Sep 14 2004 06:07 PM
. * * Re: the 1:00 andy1tom   Tue Sep 14 2004 06:22 PM
. * * Re: the 1:00 Storm Cooper   Tue Sep 14 2004 06:25 PM
. * * Re: the 1:00 andy1tom   Tue Sep 14 2004 06:29 PM
. * * Re: the 1:00 luki   Tue Sep 14 2004 06:09 PM
. * * Re: the 1:00 lilyv   Tue Sep 14 2004 06:15 PM
. * * Re: Rick on the Boat LI Phil   Tue Sep 14 2004 05:43 PM
. * * Re: Rick on the Boat storm chaser   Tue Sep 14 2004 05:42 PM
. * * Re: Rick on the Boat Wxwatcher2   Tue Sep 14 2004 05:45 PM
. * * Re: Rick on the Boat doug   Tue Sep 14 2004 06:01 PM
. * * Re: Rick on the Boat FireAng85   Tue Sep 14 2004 06:24 PM
. * * Re: Rick on the Boat doug   Tue Sep 14 2004 07:14 PM
. * * Ivan's new path LI Phil   Tue Sep 14 2004 06:29 PM
. * * Re: Ivan's new path FireAng85   Tue Sep 14 2004 06:57 PM
. * * Re: Ivan's new path Colleen A.   Tue Sep 14 2004 06:56 PM
. * * JEANNE LI Phil   Tue Sep 14 2004 06:59 PM
. * * Re: JEANNE Kent   Tue Sep 14 2004 07:18 PM
. * * Re: JEANNE Colleen A.   Tue Sep 14 2004 07:14 PM
. * * Re: JEANNE LI Phil   Tue Sep 14 2004 07:16 PM
. * * Re: JEANNE Colleen A.   Tue Sep 14 2004 07:22 PM
. * * Re: JEANNE St. David   Tue Sep 14 2004 07:18 PM
. * * Re: JEANNE Keith234   Tue Sep 14 2004 07:04 PM
. * * Re: JEANNE Fletch   Tue Sep 14 2004 07:13 PM
. * * Ivan's Slowdown Colleen A.   Tue Sep 14 2004 07:17 PM
. * * Re: Ivan's Slowdown Rasvar   Tue Sep 14 2004 07:21 PM
. * * Re: Ivan's Slowdown LI Phil   Tue Sep 14 2004 07:18 PM
. * * Re: Ivan's Slowdown scottsvb   Tue Sep 14 2004 07:26 PM
. * * Re: Ivan's Slowdown Kent   Tue Sep 14 2004 07:35 PM
. * * Re: Ivan's Slowdown Thunder   Tue Sep 14 2004 07:39 PM
. * * Re: Ivan's Slowdown andy1tom   Tue Sep 14 2004 07:25 PM
. * * Re: Ivan's Slowdown Colleen A.   Tue Sep 14 2004 07:34 PM
. * * Re: Ivan's Slowdown Ed in Va   Tue Sep 14 2004 07:23 PM
. * * Re: Ivan's Slowdown Keith234   Tue Sep 14 2004 07:28 PM
. * * Re: Ivan's Slowdown Ed in Va   Tue Sep 14 2004 07:33 PM
. * * The Cone Colleen A.   Tue Sep 14 2004 07:39 PM
. * * Just to right of prediction Ed in Va   Tue Sep 14 2004 07:43 PM
. * * Re: Just to right of prediction Colleen A.   Tue Sep 14 2004 07:59 PM
. * * Re: Just to right of prediction LI Phil   Tue Sep 14 2004 07:44 PM
. * * Re: Just to right of prediction Thunder   Tue Sep 14 2004 07:48 PM
. * * Re: Just to right of prediction lilyv   Tue Sep 14 2004 07:51 PM
. * * Re: Just to right of prediction MrSpock   Tue Sep 14 2004 07:53 PM
. * * Re: Just to right of prediction MikeCAdministrator   Tue Sep 14 2004 07:46 PM
. * * Re: Just to right of prediction Fletch   Tue Sep 14 2004 07:54 PM
. * * Re: Just to right of prediction LI Phil   Tue Sep 14 2004 07:57 PM
. * * Re: Just to right of prediction MrSpock   Tue Sep 14 2004 07:51 PM
. * * Just checking in... Steve   Tue Sep 14 2004 08:11 PM
. * * Re: Just to right of prediction GENIE   Tue Sep 14 2004 08:01 PM
. * * looking at the water vapor loop..... MrSpock   Tue Sep 14 2004 08:11 PM
. * * Re: looking at the water vapor loop..... GENIE   Tue Sep 14 2004 08:27 PM
. * * Re: looking at the water vapor loop..... lilyv   Tue Sep 14 2004 08:17 PM
. * * Re: looking at the water vapor loop..... MrSpock   Tue Sep 14 2004 08:25 PM
. * * Re: looking at the water vapor loop..... Steve   Tue Sep 14 2004 08:28 PM
. * * Re: looking at the water vapor loop..... MrSpock   Tue Sep 14 2004 09:04 PM
. * * Re: looking at the water vapor loop..... MrSpock   Tue Sep 14 2004 08:39 PM
. * * Re: looking at the water vapor loop..... LI Phil   Tue Sep 14 2004 08:42 PM
. * * Re: Just to right of prediction trinibaje   Tue Sep 14 2004 07:51 PM
. * * Re: Ivan's Slowdown doug   Tue Sep 14 2004 07:39 PM
. * * Re: Ivan's Slowdown Colleen A.   Tue Sep 14 2004 07:53 PM
. * * Re: Ivan's Slowdown RevUp   Tue Sep 14 2004 08:08 PM
. * * Re: Ivan's Slowdown Bioman   Tue Sep 14 2004 07:58 PM
. * * Re: Ivan's Slowdown MikeCAdministrator   Tue Sep 14 2004 08:01 PM
. * * Re: Ivan's Slowdown tenavilla   Tue Sep 14 2004 07:56 PM
. * * Re: Ivan's Slowdown LI Phil   Tue Sep 14 2004 07:27 PM
. * * Re: Ivan's Slowdown Rasvar   Tue Sep 14 2004 07:26 PM
. * * Re: JEANNE andy1tom   Tue Sep 14 2004 07:03 PM
. * * Re: Ivan's new path AgentB   Tue Sep 14 2004 06:40 PM
. * * Re: Ivan's new path eulogia   Tue Sep 14 2004 06:56 PM
. * * Re: Ivan's new path aliehs   Tue Sep 14 2004 06:33 PM
. * * Re: Ivan's new path Keith234   Tue Sep 14 2004 06:33 PM
. * * Re: Ivan's new path LI Phil   Tue Sep 14 2004 06:42 PM
. * * Re: Ivan's new path andy1tom   Tue Sep 14 2004 06:57 PM
. * * Re: Ivan's new path Keith234   Tue Sep 14 2004 06:55 PM
. * * Re: Ivan's new path belleami   Tue Sep 14 2004 06:48 PM
. * * Re: Ivan's new path doug   Tue Sep 14 2004 07:17 PM
. * * Re: Ivan's new path Colleen A.   Tue Sep 14 2004 07:05 PM
. * * Re: Ivan's new path mbfly   Tue Sep 14 2004 07:17 PM
. * * Re: Ivan's new path schmoo   Tue Sep 14 2004 06:57 PM
. * * Re: Ivan's new path ShanaTX   Tue Sep 14 2004 07:47 PM
. * * JBs just full of good news this afternoon LI Phil   Tue Sep 14 2004 07:49 PM
. * * Re: JBs just full of good news this afternoon mbfly   Tue Sep 14 2004 08:00 PM
. * * Re: JBs just full of good news this afternoon AgentB   Tue Sep 14 2004 08:03 PM
. * * Re: JBs just full of good news this afternoon LI Phil   Tue Sep 14 2004 08:03 PM
. * * Re: JBs just full of good news this afternoon Lisa NC   Tue Sep 14 2004 08:26 PM
. * * Re: JBs just full of good news this afternoon mbfly   Tue Sep 14 2004 08:25 PM
. * * Re: JBs just full of good news this afternoon LI Phil   Tue Sep 14 2004 08:26 PM
. * * Re: Rick on the Boat clueless   Tue Sep 14 2004 06:04 PM
. * * Re: Rick on the Boat MikeCAdministrator   Tue Sep 14 2004 05:45 PM
. * * Ivan and the Dreaded Cone rmbjoe1954   Tue Sep 14 2004 05:35 PM
. * * Re: Rick on the Boat Rasvar   Tue Sep 14 2004 05:32 PM
. * * Re: Rick on the Boat eulogia   Tue Sep 14 2004 06:08 PM
. * * Tired of Lurking Part 2 poetdi   Tue Sep 14 2004 06:27 PM
. * * Re: Rick on the Boat Thunder   Tue Sep 14 2004 05:36 PM
. * * Re: Water vapor bella   Tue Sep 14 2004 05:00 PM
. * * Re: Water vapor LI Phil   Tue Sep 14 2004 04:57 PM
. * * Re: Gravity Waves meto   Tue Sep 14 2004 04:38 PM
. * * Re: Gravity Waves LI Phil   Tue Sep 14 2004 04:39 PM
. * * Re: Gravity Waves meto   Tue Sep 14 2004 04:44 PM
. * * Jeanne turning West? Wxwatcher2   Tue Sep 14 2004 04:43 PM
. * * FL Threats Justin in Miami   Tue Sep 14 2004 04:43 PM
. * * Re: FL Threats Lake Toho - Kissimmee   Tue Sep 14 2004 04:56 PM
. * * Re: FL Threats Justin in Miami   Tue Sep 14 2004 05:06 PM
. * * Re: FL Threats Rasvar   Tue Sep 14 2004 05:28 PM
. * * Re: FL Threats kelcot   Tue Sep 14 2004 05:01 PM
. * * Re: Gravity Waves kelcot   Tue Sep 14 2004 04:39 PM
. * * Re: Gravity Waves Cane Watcher   Tue Sep 14 2004 04:19 PM
. * * Re: Ivan Weakens Slightly and Tropical Storm Jeanne Forms Lisa NC   Tue Sep 14 2004 03:51 PM
. * * Re: Ivan Weakens Slightly and Tropical Storm Jeanne Forms richisurfs   Tue Sep 14 2004 03:43 PM
. * * Tampa Bay NWS Hazardous Weather Outlook Colleen A.   Tue Sep 14 2004 04:06 PM
. * * Re: Tampa Bay NWS Hazardous Weather Outlook okiherdu   Tue Sep 14 2004 05:57 PM
. * * Re: Ivan Weakens Slightly and Tropical Storm Jeanne Forms MrSpock   Tue Sep 14 2004 03:51 PM
. * * Post From Colleen from the previous thread LI Phil   Tue Sep 14 2004 03:44 PM
. * * Re: Post From Colleen from the previous thread Colleen A.   Tue Sep 14 2004 03:48 PM
. * * Re: Post From Colleen from the previous thread Tampa Joe   Tue Sep 14 2004 04:01 PM
. * * Re: Post From Colleen from the previous thread ROB IN PA   Tue Sep 14 2004 04:15 PM
. * * Re: Post From Colleen from the previous thread meto   Tue Sep 14 2004 04:20 PM
. * * Re: Post From Colleen from the previous thread ROB IN PA   Tue Sep 14 2004 04:26 PM
. * * Re: Post From Colleen from the previous thread mlamay   Tue Sep 14 2004 04:26 PM
. * * Re: Post From Colleen from the previous thread MikeCAdministrator   Tue Sep 14 2004 04:17 PM
. * * Re: Post From Colleen from the previous thread davet   Tue Sep 14 2004 04:22 PM
. * * Re: Ivan Weakens Slightly and Tropical Storm Jeanne Forms VandyBrad   Tue Sep 14 2004 03:27 PM
. * * Re: Ivan Weakens Slightly and Tropical Storm Jeanne Forms LI Phil   Tue Sep 14 2004 03:37 PM
. * * Re: Ivan Weakens Slightly and Tropical Storm Jeanne Forms Colleen A.   Tue Sep 14 2004 03:47 PM
. * * Re: Ivan Weakens Slightly and Tropical Storm Jeanne Forms richisurfs   Tue Sep 14 2004 03:52 PM
. * * Re: Ivan Weakens Slightly and Tropical Storm Jeanne Forms Colleen A.   Tue Sep 14 2004 04:19 PM
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. * * Re: Ivan Weakens Slightly and Tropical Storm Jeanne Forms richisurfs   Tue Sep 14 2004 04:26 PM
. * * Re: Ivan Weakens Slightly and Tropical Storm Jeanne Forms kelcot   Tue Sep 14 2004 04:24 PM
. * * Re: Ivan Weakens Slightly and Tropical Storm Jeanne Forms meto   Tue Sep 14 2004 04:12 PM
. * * Re: Ivan Weakens Slightly and Tropical Storm Jeanne Forms richisurfs   Tue Sep 14 2004 04:21 PM
. * * Re: Ivan Weakens Slightly and Tropical Storm Jeanne Forms MO stormspotter   Tue Sep 14 2004 03:17 PM

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