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Invest 94L just northeast of the ABC islands in the Caribbean moving west, 20% development chance. Another area near the Cabo Verde islands has a 20% chance to develop over the next 7 days.
Days since last H. Landfall - US: Any 300 (Idalia) , Major: 300 (Idalia) Florida - Any: 300 (Idalia) Major: 300 (Idalia)
 


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late day stuff
      Sat Sep 07 2002 09:31 PM

back from the ribber. no sunburn, yaay. too many girls, bigger yaay.
saw that gulf convergence even before reading bastardi.. was wowed.. read bastardi and am now pondering the possiblities. though not extremely likely, something could develop under the upper high, not west of it as fay did. probably a half measure feature like fay.. but i dunno..
maybe all those model runs making gulf trouble had something realisitic in mind after all..
well they went and upped 95L to td7.. good job nhc. it isnt intensifying in a hurry.. actually looks like crap. turned back to the west today (?). well guess maybe it will do that for a while. environment not wonderful but not too horrible.. i guess it could weaken from here on in, but think it more likely it becomes a weak tropical storm and slowly moves further west.
wave south of there well defined with a good oblong rotation, but no convection. shear goes to next to nothing in about a day along its track.. but with no convection, just a wave headed into the islands.
east atlantic wave not looking terribly organized, but plenty of energy with it. there is supposedly a broad surface low with it.. should begin to show on goes 8 visibles tomorrow, until then not a very good idea what its doing.
the big story: 97L. not developing in traditional tropical fashion, may indeed be subtropical in its initial stages.. but as this sucker deepens and structures itself... which i think it should.. has a pretty good shot at becoming a hurricane. doubt all the globals are lying to me for one, and really like the look this thing has for deuce.
most of the models bring it up to the carolina coast tuesday, only a couple actually take it ashore. the rest slow it down offshore and turn it out to sea. either solution puts a system close enough to the carolinas to give the kids a holiday at the coast.
unless it slows as the ridge weakens to the north earlier this week offshore.. the ashore approach wouldnt give it sufficient time to become an intense hurricane.. so TS to moderate hurricane is the likely range of strength.
sooner this thing organizes the further west it will go.
anyway a TD and a few potential trouble spots.. one very likely and two more with decent chances.
G and H storms look pretty certain by the end of next week.
bastardi's talk about the pattern break in october-- sudden pattern shift in october correllates in time with the active span for the western carib.. undulating ridge/troughs eastern u.s. tend to stir things up down there. so maybe another good hurricane in mid/late october in the western carib coming north this year.. thats out there. just a chump guess if it verifies anyway.
okay, quitting analysis. why dont i just make short to the point posts like every sane person on here?? stuff is so under my skin.
by the way not too hard on scottsvb. knock him for being haughty yes, definitely, but not for having totally unsound ideas.. he did see trouble brewing down there early on, and did bet on it having a westward component. can't discredit the entirety of his foresight. away from the microscope he had the right general idea. took it too far yes, but thats a matter of interpretation.. you can hate the gfdl for inventing fake storm tracks and have to admit it may see too much trouble, but that it doesnt often not see it coming. decent analogy. better be ok to have only a clue, 'cause i NEVER seem to hit the nail without taking a few whacks at it.. nor does anyone else. including the expert/official sources.
ok ill shut the ---- up. applause.
HF 0127z08september

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* Fay Dies, TD#7 Forms John C Sat Sep 07 2002 09:31 PM
. * * Gustav Update Ed DunhamAdministrator   Mon Sep 09 2002 06:39 PM
. * * Caneman Rad   Mon Sep 09 2002 06:49 PM
. * * Re: Fay Dies, TD#7 Forms troy2   Sun Sep 08 2002 10:21 PM
. * * Re: Fay Dies, TD#7 Forms Anonymous   Sun Sep 08 2002 08:48 PM
. * * TD #8 has been Initialized Ed DunhamAdministrator   Sun Sep 08 2002 10:48 AM
. * * Re: TD #8 has been Initialized Anonymous   Sun Sep 08 2002 12:15 PM
. * * everything HanKFranK   Sun Sep 08 2002 12:39 PM
. * * Gustav and tropical wave in atlantic Cycloneye   Sun Sep 08 2002 04:39 PM
. * * Gulf of Mexico Anonymous   Sun Sep 08 2002 07:25 PM
. * * policy HanKFranK   Sun Sep 08 2002 08:07 PM
. * * Re: policy Anonymous   Sun Sep 08 2002 08:20 PM
. * * another dose HanKFranK   Sun Sep 08 2002 08:44 PM
. * * Re: another dose 57497479   Sun Sep 08 2002 10:24 PM
. * * Re: another dose Anonymous   Sun Sep 08 2002 08:52 PM
. * * Re: another dose Anonymous   Sun Sep 08 2002 09:17 PM
. * * Re: everything Mary K.   Sun Sep 08 2002 01:45 PM
. * * Hey HF... Anonymous   Sun Sep 08 2002 02:35 PM
. * * Thanks for the Band! Anonymous   Sun Sep 08 2002 02:59 PM
. * * Re: Thanks for the Band! ShawnS   Sun Sep 08 2002 03:10 PM
. * * Steve ShawnS   Sun Sep 08 2002 12:25 PM
. * * Re: Steve 57497479   Sun Sep 08 2002 12:47 PM
. * * Re: Steve Anonymous   Sun Sep 08 2002 11:11 PM
. * * Re: Steve 57497479   Sun Sep 08 2002 11:29 PM
. * * Hey 574... Anonymous   Sun Sep 08 2002 11:54 PM
. * * Re: Hey 574... 57497479   Mon Sep 09 2002 12:17 AM
. * * this week HanKFranK   Mon Sep 09 2002 10:39 AM
. * * Interesting Houston Forecast disc... Anonymous   Mon Sep 09 2002 12:40 PM
. * * Re: Interesting Houston Forecast disc... ShawnS   Mon Sep 09 2002 01:22 PM
. * * Re: Interesting Houston Forecast disc... Anonymous   Mon Sep 09 2002 05:36 PM
. * * Gustav rotating about another center? Anonymous   Mon Sep 09 2002 01:40 PM
. * * Re: Interesting Houston Forecast disc... andy1tom   Mon Sep 09 2002 01:33 PM
. * * NHC changed naming conventions... Anonymous   Mon Sep 09 2002 01:46 PM
. * * close in HanKFranK   Mon Sep 09 2002 02:11 PM
. * * Re: close in Cycloneye   Mon Sep 09 2002 05:48 PM
. * * My tropical thoughts. Kevin   Mon Sep 09 2002 06:27 PM
. * * Low off Tx not Fl threat? Anonymous   Mon Sep 09 2002 02:38 PM
. * * Re: Low off Tx not Fl threat? caneman   Mon Sep 09 2002 02:50 PM
. * * Re: Low off Tx not Fl threat? Anonymous   Mon Sep 09 2002 03:30 PM
. * * Gustav moving west Anonymous   Mon Sep 09 2002 03:51 PM
. * * Multiple centers Anonymous   Mon Sep 09 2002 04:13 PM
. * * Re: Steve Anonymous   Sun Sep 08 2002 09:38 PM
. * * Re: Steve 57497479   Sun Sep 08 2002 10:51 PM
. * * Re: Steve Anonymous   Sun Sep 08 2002 10:59 PM
. * * Re: Steve Anonymous   Sun Sep 08 2002 09:30 PM
. * * Re: Fay Dies, TD#7 Forms J.J.   Sun Sep 08 2002 10:46 AM
. * * Re: Fay Dies, TD#7 Forms Anonymous   Sun Sep 08 2002 10:23 AM
. * * Re: Fay Dies, TD#7 Forms Anonymous   Sun Sep 08 2002 09:56 AM
. * * Re: Fay Dies, TD#7 Forms 57497479   Sun Sep 08 2002 10:14 AM
. * * Re: Fay Dies, TD#7 Forms troy2   Sun Sep 08 2002 02:47 AM
. * * Re: Fay Dies, TD#7 Forms 57497479   Sun Sep 08 2002 09:19 AM
. * * Re: Fay Dies, TD#7 Forms troy2   Sat Sep 07 2002 10:24 PM
. * * Hey Scott Anonymous   Sat Sep 07 2002 04:52 PM
. * * 97L will be the biggest threat to the US Cycloneye   Sat Sep 07 2002 05:33 PM
. * * Bastardi on the GOM.. Anonymous   Sat Sep 07 2002 06:03 PM
. * * late day stuff HanKFranK   Sat Sep 07 2002 09:31 PM
. * * Bahamian system Kevin   Sat Sep 07 2002 11:00 PM
. * * Re: Bahamian system HanKFranK   Sat Sep 07 2002 11:24 PM
. * * Actually... Kevin   Sat Sep 07 2002 11:52 PM
. * * Re: Actually... troy2   Sat Sep 07 2002 11:57 PM
. * * Re: Actually... HanKFranK   Sun Sep 08 2002 12:37 AM
. * * Hey Kevin... Anonymous   Sat Sep 07 2002 02:40 PM
. * * Scott & Steve ShawnS   Sat Sep 07 2002 03:18 PM
. * * Re: Scott & Steve Anonymous   Sun Sep 08 2002 02:30 AM
. * * Re: Scott & Steve Anonymous   Sun Sep 08 2002 02:45 AM

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