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GuppieGrouper
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Re: survived because of a one degree dogleg right at the last minute...whew!
      Tue Sep 21 2004 10:37 AM

I think that estimates of storm damage will have to change according to the surface areas and angles which may change the classifications of storm intensities down the line. Estimating effects on land masses according to old standards of measurements do not seem to tell the tale anymore. I noticed this year that no matter what the level of the hurricane has been declared, the damage seemed to imply a higher classification. I don't know if this is the conservatism of the officials or if it is the interaction with the storm and the land structures that are causing this. I have yet to hear that " there was not that much damage" compared to the storm classification. It has been the other way around continuously. Not a conspiracy suggestion, a weather phenomenon I am questioning.

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* The Basin Stays Busy Ed DunhamAdministrator Tue Sep 21 2004 10:37 AM
. * * The E. Atlantic Clark   Wed Sep 22 2004 01:58 AM
. * * Re: The E. Atlantic James88   Wed Sep 22 2004 02:14 AM
. * * Re: The E. Atlantic Rasvar   Wed Sep 22 2004 07:48 AM
. * * Re: The E. Atlantic Steve hirschb.   Wed Sep 22 2004 07:57 AM
. * * AM Ivan remnants..... Frank P   Wed Sep 22 2004 08:17 AM
. * * Re: AM Ivan remnants..... MO Stormspotter   Wed Sep 22 2004 08:49 AM
. * * Re: AM Ivan remnants..... Ed in Va   Wed Sep 22 2004 09:12 AM
. * * model runs on Ivan remnants Frank P   Wed Sep 22 2004 08:22 AM
. * * Re: The Basin Stays Busy MikeCAdministrator   Tue Sep 21 2004 09:36 AM
. * * Re: The Basin Stays Busy DMFischer   Tue Sep 21 2004 01:02 PM
. * * Re: The Basin Stays Busy leetdan   Mon Sep 20 2004 11:35 PM
. * * Re: The Basin Stays Busy BillD   Tue Sep 21 2004 12:06 AM
. * * Re: The Basin Stays Busy Hurric   Mon Sep 20 2004 10:41 PM
. * * Re: The Basin Stays Busy Clark   Mon Sep 20 2004 10:39 PM
. * * Re: The Basin Stays Busy Hurric   Mon Sep 20 2004 10:45 PM
. * * Re: The Basin Stays Busy Clark   Tue Sep 21 2004 12:16 AM
. * * Re: The Basin Stays Busy Second Shift   Tue Sep 21 2004 02:17 AM
. * * The ghost of Ivan continues WXMAN RICHIE   Tue Sep 21 2004 06:53 AM
. * * Re: The ghost of Ivan continues Rasvar   Tue Sep 21 2004 09:14 AM
. * * Re: The ghost of Ivan continues BeachBum   Tue Sep 21 2004 01:04 PM
. * * Re: The ghost of Ivan continues Ormond Suzie   Tue Sep 21 2004 01:29 PM
. * * survived because of a one degree dogleg right at the last minute...whew! rickonboat   Tue Sep 21 2004 09:59 AM
. * * Re: survived because of a one degree dogleg right at the last minute...whew! DMFischer   Tue Sep 21 2004 01:05 PM
. * * Re: survived because of a one degree dogleg right at the last minute...whew! Storm Cooper   Tue Sep 21 2004 11:33 AM
. * * Question for Mike or John C... Steve   Tue Sep 21 2004 11:36 AM
. * * Re: Joe's Daily Column is free today June from Port Orange   Tue Sep 21 2004 12:12 PM
. * * Re: Joe's Daily Column is free today leetdan   Tue Sep 21 2004 12:14 PM
. * * Re: Joe's Daily Column is free today CarolinaGurl   Tue Sep 21 2004 12:28 PM
. * * Ivan's Return Domino   Tue Sep 21 2004 01:04 PM
. * * Re: Ivan's Return MO STORMSPOTTER   Tue Sep 21 2004 01:06 PM
. * * Re: Ivan's Return Katie   Tue Sep 21 2004 01:42 PM
. * * Re: Ivan's Return doug   Tue Sep 21 2004 01:48 PM
. * * Re: Ivan's Return Fletch   Tue Sep 21 2004 01:52 PM
. * * Re: Ivan's Return vs Mitch lois   Tue Sep 21 2004 02:16 PM
. * * Re: Ivan's Return leetdan   Tue Sep 21 2004 01:16 PM
. * * Re: Ivan's Return Rabbit   Tue Sep 21 2004 01:12 PM
. * * Re: Ivan's Return Domino   Tue Sep 21 2004 01:19 PM
. * * Re: Ivan's Return doug   Tue Sep 21 2004 01:27 PM
. * * Re: Ivan's Return Domino   Tue Sep 21 2004 01:31 PM
. * * Re: Ivan's Return doug   Tue Sep 21 2004 01:43 PM
. * * Re: Ivan's Return Fletch   Tue Sep 21 2004 01:48 PM
. * * Jeanne-retirement after the season? LI Phil   Tue Sep 21 2004 01:55 PM
. * * Re: Jeanne-retirement after the season? Staggy   Tue Sep 21 2004 02:44 PM
. * * Re: Jeanne-retirement after the season? EPA-storm watch   Tue Sep 21 2004 03:04 PM
. * * Re: Jeanne-retirement after the season? Fletch   Tue Sep 21 2004 01:59 PM
. * * Re: Jeanne-retirement after the season? ShanaTX   Tue Sep 21 2004 03:45 PM
. * * Re: Jeanne-retirement after the season? LI Phil   Tue Sep 21 2004 04:01 PM
. * * Re: Jeanne-retirement after the season? Ricreig   Tue Sep 21 2004 04:17 PM
. * * Re: Jeanne-retirement after the season? LI Phil   Tue Sep 21 2004 04:24 PM
. * * other storms Rabbit   Tue Sep 21 2004 05:05 PM
. * * Make that 1985... LI Phil   Tue Sep 21 2004 05:07 PM
. * * Re: Jeanne-retirement after the season? Keith234   Tue Sep 21 2004 05:02 PM
. * * Re: Jeanne-retirement after the season? Ricreig   Tue Sep 21 2004 05:12 PM
. * * Re: Jeanne-retirement after the season? k___g   Tue Sep 21 2004 09:53 PM
. * * Re: Jeanne-retirement after the season? Redbird1   Tue Sep 21 2004 05:30 PM
. * * Re: Jeanne-retirement after the season? Ricreig   Tue Sep 21 2004 05:43 PM
. * * Re: Jeanne-retirement after the season? Redbird1   Tue Sep 21 2004 05:51 PM
. * * Re: Jeanne-retirement after the season? scottsvb   Tue Sep 21 2004 06:31 PM
. * * bevy of comments HanKFranK   Tue Sep 21 2004 07:35 PM
. * * Re: bevy of comments Clark   Tue Sep 21 2004 09:09 PM
. * * Re: bevy of comments Keith234   Tue Sep 21 2004 09:02 PM
. * * Re: Jeanne-retirement after the season? Keith234   Tue Sep 21 2004 07:00 PM
. * * Jeanne 5 Day LI Phil   Tue Sep 21 2004 07:28 PM
. * * Re: Jeanne 5 Day Kent   Wed Sep 22 2004 12:41 AM
. * * Re: Jeanne 5 Day Keith234   Tue Sep 21 2004 08:36 PM
. * * Re: Jeanne 5 Day Redbird1   Tue Sep 21 2004 07:39 PM
. * * Re: Jeanne 5 Day LI Phil   Tue Sep 21 2004 07:51 PM
. * * Re: Jeanne 5 Day MR. UnHappy   Tue Sep 21 2004 08:37 PM
. * * Re: Jeanne 5 Day Girlnascar   Wed Sep 22 2004 12:10 AM
. * * Re: To MR UNHappy Kdubs   Tue Sep 21 2004 09:53 PM
. * * Re: To MR UNHappy Mr. UnHappy   Wed Sep 22 2004 07:54 AM
. * * Re: To MR UNHappy Lake Toho - Kissimmee   Wed Sep 22 2004 09:44 AM
. * * Re: To MR UNHappy mr. UnHappy   Wed Sep 22 2004 10:15 AM
. * * Re: To MR UNHappy leetdan   Wed Sep 22 2004 10:28 AM
. * * Re: To MR UNHappy Mozart   Wed Sep 22 2004 11:23 AM
. * * Re: To MR UNHappy Redbird1   Wed Sep 22 2004 11:13 AM
. * * Re: To MR UNHappy Rabbit   Wed Sep 22 2004 10:09 AM
. * * Re: To MR UNHappy storm chaser   Wed Sep 22 2004 08:22 AM
. * * Re: To MR UNHappy Katie   Wed Sep 22 2004 09:19 AM
. * * Re: To MR UNHappy storm chaser   Wed Sep 22 2004 09:29 AM
. * * Re: To MR UNHappy strom chaser   Wed Sep 22 2004 09:31 AM
. * * Re: To MR UNHappy cmdebbie   Tue Sep 21 2004 10:31 PM
. * * Re: To MR UNHappy recmod   Tue Sep 21 2004 10:12 PM
. * * Re: To MR UNHappy Lake Toho - Kissimmee   Tue Sep 21 2004 10:52 PM
. * * Re: To MR UNHappy mom2als   Wed Sep 22 2004 12:48 AM
. * * Re: To MR UNHappy Redbird1   Wed Sep 22 2004 11:07 AM
. * * Re: To MR UNHappy Mr. UnHappy   Wed Sep 22 2004 08:29 AM
. * * What is your thinking on the wave behind Lisa? Matt033   Wed Sep 22 2004 01:12 AM
. * * Thomas says Florida beware again WXMAN RICHIE   Tue Sep 21 2004 10:01 PM
. * * Re: Thomas says Florida beware again Rasvar   Tue Sep 21 2004 10:13 PM
. * * Re: Thomas says Florida beware again WXMAN RICHIE   Tue Sep 21 2004 10:16 PM
. * * Jeanne News Worsens Yet Again recmod   Tue Sep 21 2004 10:29 PM
. * * Re: Jeanne News Worsens Yet Again recmod   Tue Sep 21 2004 11:12 PM
. * * Re: Jeanne News Worsens Yet Again Steve   Tue Sep 21 2004 11:35 PM
. * * Re: Jeanne News Worsens Yet Again Kent   Wed Sep 22 2004 12:15 AM
. * * Re: Thomas says Florida beware again 52255225   Tue Sep 21 2004 10:10 PM
. * * Re: FEMA danielwAdministrator   Tue Sep 21 2004 09:08 PM
. * * Re: Jeanne 5 Day leetdan   Tue Sep 21 2004 08:48 PM
. * * Re: Jeanne 5 Day anon   Wed Sep 22 2004 08:05 AM
. * * Re: Jeanne 5 Day Redbird1   Tue Sep 21 2004 08:05 PM
. * * Re: Jeanne 5 Day troy   Tue Sep 21 2004 08:38 PM
. * * Re: Jeanne 5 Day LI Phil   Tue Sep 21 2004 08:55 PM
. * * Ivan remnants getting pulzerized by shear Frank P   Tue Sep 21 2004 09:12 PM
. * * Re: Bear Watch danielwAdministrator   Tue Sep 21 2004 09:35 PM
. * * Re: Bear Watch Frank P   Tue Sep 21 2004 09:44 PM
. * * Re: Bear Watch SoonerShawn   Tue Sep 21 2004 09:40 PM
. * * Re: Bear Watch BillD   Tue Sep 21 2004 09:39 PM
. * * Re: Jeanne 5 Day DroopGB31   Tue Sep 21 2004 09:06 PM
. * * Re: Jeanne 5 Day DroopGB31   Tue Sep 21 2004 09:11 PM
. * * Re: Jeanne 5 Day Steve   Tue Sep 21 2004 07:49 PM
. * * Jeanne's Death Toll Rising Fast recmod   Tue Sep 21 2004 07:24 PM
. * * Re: Jeanne-retirement after the season? Rabbit   Tue Sep 21 2004 05:19 PM
. * * Re: Jeanne-retirement after the season? Ricreig   Tue Sep 21 2004 05:34 PM
. * * Re: Jeanne-retirement after the season? Redbird1   Tue Sep 21 2004 05:38 PM
. * * Re: Jeanne-retirement after the season? Ricreig   Tue Sep 21 2004 04:10 PM
. * * Re: Jeanne-retirement after the season? clueless   Tue Sep 21 2004 02:05 PM
. * * Re: Jeanne-retirement after the season? leetdan   Tue Sep 21 2004 02:09 PM
. * * Re: Jeanne-retirement after the season? scottsvb   Tue Sep 21 2004 02:09 PM
. * * Re: Jeanne-retirement after the season? Rasvar   Tue Sep 21 2004 02:36 PM
. * * Re: Jeanne-retirement after the season? doug   Tue Sep 21 2004 02:16 PM
. * * HPC/TPC? Ed in Va   Tue Sep 21 2004 02:30 PM
. * * Re: HPC/TPC? Clark   Tue Sep 21 2004 05:03 PM
. * * Re: HPC/TPC? Ed in Va   Tue Sep 21 2004 05:06 PM
. * * Re: HPC/TPC? LI Phil   Tue Sep 21 2004 02:32 PM
. * * Re: HPC/TPC? Ed in Va   Tue Sep 21 2004 02:53 PM
. * * T numbers Bloodstar   Tue Sep 21 2004 02:36 PM
. * * Re: Jeanne-retirement after the season? Fletch   Tue Sep 21 2004 02:21 PM
. * * Re: Jeanne-retirement after the season? Katie   Tue Sep 21 2004 02:40 PM
. * * Re: Jeanne-retirement after the season? Fletch   Tue Sep 21 2004 02:44 PM
. * * Re: Jeanne-retirement after the season? leetdan   Tue Sep 21 2004 04:17 PM
. * * Re: Jeanne-retirement after the season? leetdan   Tue Sep 21 2004 02:29 PM
. * * Re: Jeanne-retirement after the season? Domino   Tue Sep 21 2004 02:31 PM
. * * Re: Jeanne-retirement after the season? Domino   Tue Sep 21 2004 02:39 PM
. * * Re: Jeanne-retirement after the season? LI Phil   Tue Sep 21 2004 02:47 PM
. * * Re: Jeanne-retirement after the season? Domino   Tue Sep 21 2004 02:48 PM
. * * Retirement of names LI Phil   Tue Sep 21 2004 02:57 PM
. * * Re: Retirement of names Steve-unplugged   Tue Sep 21 2004 03:06 PM
. * * love this view of ivan lois   Tue Sep 21 2004 03:28 PM
. * * Re: Jeanne-retirement after the season? Domino   Tue Sep 21 2004 02:25 PM
. * * Re: Jeanne-retirement after the season? Fletch   Tue Sep 21 2004 02:13 PM
. * * Re: Ivan's Return LI Phil   Tue Sep 21 2004 01:40 PM
. * * Re: Ivan's Return MO STORMSPOTTER   Tue Sep 21 2004 01:29 PM
. * * Med. Storm? Bloodstar   Tue Sep 21 2004 01:16 PM
. * * Re: Med. Storm? Domino   Tue Sep 21 2004 01:26 PM
. * * Re: Med. Storm? clueless   Tue Sep 21 2004 01:57 PM
. * * Re: Joe's Daily Column is free today Terry Johnson   Tue Sep 21 2004 12:58 PM
. * * Re: Joe's Daily Column is free today doug   Tue Sep 21 2004 01:21 PM
. * * Re: Joe's Daily Column is free today tpratch   Tue Sep 21 2004 01:00 PM
. * * Re: Joe's Daily Column is free today leetdan   Tue Sep 21 2004 12:55 PM
. * * Re: Question for Mike or John C... MikeCAdministrator   Tue Sep 21 2004 12:12 PM
. * * Re: survived because of a one degree dogleg right at the last minute...whew! leetdan   Tue Sep 21 2004 11:25 AM
. * * Re: survived because of a one degree dogleg right at the last minute...whew! Frank P   Tue Sep 21 2004 10:22 AM
. * * Re: survived because of a one degree dogleg right at the last minute...whew! GuppieGrouper   Tue Sep 21 2004 10:37 AM
. * * Re: survived because of a one degree dogleg right at the last minute...whew! Steve   Tue Sep 21 2004 10:06 AM
. * * Re: survived because of a one degree dogleg right at the last minute...whew! Clark   Tue Sep 21 2004 12:19 PM
. * * Re: survived because of a one degree dogleg right at the last minute...whew! Shalafi   Tue Sep 21 2004 01:14 PM
. * * Re: survived because of a one degree dogleg right at the last minute...whew! Ricreig   Tue Sep 21 2004 01:47 PM
. * * Re: survived because of a one degree dogleg right at the last minute...whew! Shalafi   Tue Sep 21 2004 01:54 PM
. * * Re: survived because of a one degree dogleg right at the last minute...whew! Kent   Tue Sep 21 2004 10:50 AM
. * * Re: The Basin Stays Busy scottsvb   Tue Sep 21 2004 12:49 AM
. * * Re: The Basin Stays Busy Hurric   Tue Sep 21 2004 12:46 AM
. * * Re: The Basin Stays Busy Wxwatcher2   Mon Sep 20 2004 11:22 PM
. * * Re: The Basin Stays Busy DebbiePSL   Mon Sep 20 2004 11:30 PM
. * * Re: The Basin Stays Busy Lake Toho - Kissimmee   Mon Sep 20 2004 11:32 PM
. * * Re: The Basin Stays Busy DebbiePSL   Mon Sep 20 2004 11:35 PM
. * * Re: The Basin Stays Busy 52255225   Mon Sep 20 2004 11:29 PM
. * * Re: The Basin Stays Busy 52255225   Mon Sep 20 2004 11:30 PM
. * * Re: The Basin Stays Busy ShanaTX   Mon Sep 20 2004 01:07 AM
. * * Re: The Basin Stays Busy Storm Cooper   Mon Sep 20 2004 12:33 AM

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