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Kdubs
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Re: To MR UNHappy
      Tue Sep 21 2004 09:53 PM

I just wanted to add my response to your unhappiness.

I live in South Orlando, in the path of Charley's eye and the NE quadrant of Frances.

The police and fire units did a remarkable job, at least in our area of the city. They started clearing streets at midnight, less than an hour after Charley blew through. FIREmen and POLICEmen... not treecutters. They went beyond their job description to make it possible for them to access potential emergency areas. As for the contracting, I don't know why they wouldn't allow out-of-state contractors to work, except for the large influx of unisured, unlicensed contractors. Their mistakes and injuries cost our local governments (and ultimately YOU, the taxpayer) a lot of money.

FEMA is there to help out those people who need assistance. You made a point of saying they gave checks to the "uninsured". Keyword = uninsured. Those with insurance have response from a private organization. And it's not as if FEMA abandoned you. Where do you think much of the available ice, water, food, tarps, shovels, chainsaws, etc came from? FEMA brought much of that in, and how much did they charge us for all those thousands of pounds of ice we took from their distribution sites? That's right... nuthin. So we had to go pick it up... Do you expect them to deliver to all 1 million residents of Orange County along with all the residents of the other counties hit?

Two million cubic yards of debris is a lot of stuff to pick up. Ours sat at the end of our yard for a long time, till after Frances. We had to tie it down so it would become flying debris. And yeah, it killed our grass, and yeah, when the men came to pick it up, they scraped up a good portion of our yard doing it, but how much did they charge you for curbside pickup, removal, and dumping? Any fees? Didn't think so.

I have no idea where you got the St. Johns flooding bit from. Every day I turn on the news, they have aerial pictures from the St. Johns seawalls with water sloshing up over them, flooding the streets of Sanford and Deltona. Whatever.

Gas was a pain to find. That one I'll give you. But the Central Florida petroleum distribution site is down here in South Orlando, and every truck that left that site was accompanied by at least one, usually two, law enforcement vehicles, ensuring that the gasoline got to a station near you, for your use, and that no one interfered with the delivery of what little gasoline there was to distribute.

The power companies have done miracles considering that they had to replace hundreds of miles of cables AFTER removing the trees from the lines and poles. They had to replace poles, transformers, jacks, etc. And before your house could get electricity back, they had to get power back to the substations and main transmission lines. And to get us power back quickly, they rigged it with only the essentials, knowing it will take a full year to completely repair the damage. When Frances came through, it didn't take as much damage to pull down what the power company had just duct taped up. And with 2 million people without power from Frances and almost that many from Charley just weeks before, you should be counting your blessings you weren't last.

When you purchase a home, you take on the responsibility for that home. It is not someone elses responsibility to keep the water out, to prop the walls up, to repair your wallpaper, or to fix you roof. There is insurance available to those who wish to have it, and bank loans available to those who don't. There are thousands of structures suffering from roof damage and only so many roofers to fix them. Be patient and use some of those free tarps that FEMA is handing out. They have a lot of people to help and it makes their job harder when there are disgruntled, unappreciative residents. Be grateful you still have a house that needs repair, unlike so many people in the Palm Bay/Jupiter Beach region, Port Charlotte/Punta Gorda region, and Gulf Shores/Pensacola region who would probably be more content having to wait for someone to repair their roof rather than wait for someone to build them a new house because theirs was washed into the ocean.

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* The Basin Stays Busy Ed DunhamAdministrator Tue Sep 21 2004 09:53 PM
. * * The E. Atlantic Clark   Wed Sep 22 2004 01:58 AM
. * * Re: The E. Atlantic James88   Wed Sep 22 2004 02:14 AM
. * * Re: The E. Atlantic Rasvar   Wed Sep 22 2004 07:48 AM
. * * Re: The E. Atlantic Steve hirschb.   Wed Sep 22 2004 07:57 AM
. * * AM Ivan remnants..... Frank P   Wed Sep 22 2004 08:17 AM
. * * Re: AM Ivan remnants..... MO Stormspotter   Wed Sep 22 2004 08:49 AM
. * * Re: AM Ivan remnants..... Ed in Va   Wed Sep 22 2004 09:12 AM
. * * model runs on Ivan remnants Frank P   Wed Sep 22 2004 08:22 AM
. * * Re: The Basin Stays Busy MikeCAdministrator   Tue Sep 21 2004 09:36 AM
. * * Re: The Basin Stays Busy DMFischer   Tue Sep 21 2004 01:02 PM
. * * Re: The Basin Stays Busy leetdan   Mon Sep 20 2004 11:35 PM
. * * Re: The Basin Stays Busy BillD   Tue Sep 21 2004 12:06 AM
. * * Re: The Basin Stays Busy Hurric   Mon Sep 20 2004 10:41 PM
. * * Re: The Basin Stays Busy Clark   Mon Sep 20 2004 10:39 PM
. * * Re: The Basin Stays Busy Hurric   Mon Sep 20 2004 10:45 PM
. * * Re: The Basin Stays Busy Clark   Tue Sep 21 2004 12:16 AM
. * * Re: The Basin Stays Busy Second Shift   Tue Sep 21 2004 02:17 AM
. * * The ghost of Ivan continues WXMAN RICHIE   Tue Sep 21 2004 06:53 AM
. * * Re: The ghost of Ivan continues Rasvar   Tue Sep 21 2004 09:14 AM
. * * Re: The ghost of Ivan continues BeachBum   Tue Sep 21 2004 01:04 PM
. * * Re: The ghost of Ivan continues Ormond Suzie   Tue Sep 21 2004 01:29 PM
. * * survived because of a one degree dogleg right at the last minute...whew! rickonboat   Tue Sep 21 2004 09:59 AM
. * * Re: survived because of a one degree dogleg right at the last minute...whew! DMFischer   Tue Sep 21 2004 01:05 PM
. * * Re: survived because of a one degree dogleg right at the last minute...whew! Storm Cooper   Tue Sep 21 2004 11:33 AM
. * * Question for Mike or John C... Steve   Tue Sep 21 2004 11:36 AM
. * * Re: Joe's Daily Column is free today June from Port Orange   Tue Sep 21 2004 12:12 PM
. * * Re: Joe's Daily Column is free today leetdan   Tue Sep 21 2004 12:14 PM
. * * Re: Joe's Daily Column is free today CarolinaGurl   Tue Sep 21 2004 12:28 PM
. * * Ivan's Return Domino   Tue Sep 21 2004 01:04 PM
. * * Re: Ivan's Return MO STORMSPOTTER   Tue Sep 21 2004 01:06 PM
. * * Re: Ivan's Return Katie   Tue Sep 21 2004 01:42 PM
. * * Re: Ivan's Return doug   Tue Sep 21 2004 01:48 PM
. * * Re: Ivan's Return Fletch   Tue Sep 21 2004 01:52 PM
. * * Re: Ivan's Return vs Mitch lois   Tue Sep 21 2004 02:16 PM
. * * Re: Ivan's Return leetdan   Tue Sep 21 2004 01:16 PM
. * * Re: Ivan's Return Rabbit   Tue Sep 21 2004 01:12 PM
. * * Re: Ivan's Return Domino   Tue Sep 21 2004 01:19 PM
. * * Re: Ivan's Return doug   Tue Sep 21 2004 01:27 PM
. * * Re: Ivan's Return Domino   Tue Sep 21 2004 01:31 PM
. * * Re: Ivan's Return doug   Tue Sep 21 2004 01:43 PM
. * * Re: Ivan's Return Fletch   Tue Sep 21 2004 01:48 PM
. * * Jeanne-retirement after the season? LI Phil   Tue Sep 21 2004 01:55 PM
. * * Re: Jeanne-retirement after the season? Staggy   Tue Sep 21 2004 02:44 PM
. * * Re: Jeanne-retirement after the season? EPA-storm watch   Tue Sep 21 2004 03:04 PM
. * * Re: Jeanne-retirement after the season? Fletch   Tue Sep 21 2004 01:59 PM
. * * Re: Jeanne-retirement after the season? ShanaTX   Tue Sep 21 2004 03:45 PM
. * * Re: Jeanne-retirement after the season? LI Phil   Tue Sep 21 2004 04:01 PM
. * * Re: Jeanne-retirement after the season? Ricreig   Tue Sep 21 2004 04:17 PM
. * * Re: Jeanne-retirement after the season? LI Phil   Tue Sep 21 2004 04:24 PM
. * * other storms Rabbit   Tue Sep 21 2004 05:05 PM
. * * Make that 1985... LI Phil   Tue Sep 21 2004 05:07 PM
. * * Re: Jeanne-retirement after the season? Keith234   Tue Sep 21 2004 05:02 PM
. * * Re: Jeanne-retirement after the season? Ricreig   Tue Sep 21 2004 05:12 PM
. * * Re: Jeanne-retirement after the season? k___g   Tue Sep 21 2004 09:53 PM
. * * Re: Jeanne-retirement after the season? Redbird1   Tue Sep 21 2004 05:30 PM
. * * Re: Jeanne-retirement after the season? Ricreig   Tue Sep 21 2004 05:43 PM
. * * Re: Jeanne-retirement after the season? Redbird1   Tue Sep 21 2004 05:51 PM
. * * Re: Jeanne-retirement after the season? scottsvb   Tue Sep 21 2004 06:31 PM
. * * bevy of comments HanKFranK   Tue Sep 21 2004 07:35 PM
. * * Re: bevy of comments Clark   Tue Sep 21 2004 09:09 PM
. * * Re: bevy of comments Keith234   Tue Sep 21 2004 09:02 PM
. * * Re: Jeanne-retirement after the season? Keith234   Tue Sep 21 2004 07:00 PM
. * * Jeanne 5 Day LI Phil   Tue Sep 21 2004 07:28 PM
. * * Re: Jeanne 5 Day Kent   Wed Sep 22 2004 12:41 AM
. * * Re: Jeanne 5 Day Keith234   Tue Sep 21 2004 08:36 PM
. * * Re: Jeanne 5 Day Redbird1   Tue Sep 21 2004 07:39 PM
. * * Re: Jeanne 5 Day LI Phil   Tue Sep 21 2004 07:51 PM
. * * Re: Jeanne 5 Day MR. UnHappy   Tue Sep 21 2004 08:37 PM
. * * Re: Jeanne 5 Day Girlnascar   Wed Sep 22 2004 12:10 AM
. * * Re: To MR UNHappy Kdubs   Tue Sep 21 2004 09:53 PM
. * * Re: To MR UNHappy Mr. UnHappy   Wed Sep 22 2004 07:54 AM
. * * Re: To MR UNHappy Lake Toho - Kissimmee   Wed Sep 22 2004 09:44 AM
. * * Re: To MR UNHappy mr. UnHappy   Wed Sep 22 2004 10:15 AM
. * * Re: To MR UNHappy leetdan   Wed Sep 22 2004 10:28 AM
. * * Re: To MR UNHappy Mozart   Wed Sep 22 2004 11:23 AM
. * * Re: To MR UNHappy Redbird1   Wed Sep 22 2004 11:13 AM
. * * Re: To MR UNHappy Rabbit   Wed Sep 22 2004 10:09 AM
. * * Re: To MR UNHappy storm chaser   Wed Sep 22 2004 08:22 AM
. * * Re: To MR UNHappy Katie   Wed Sep 22 2004 09:19 AM
. * * Re: To MR UNHappy storm chaser   Wed Sep 22 2004 09:29 AM
. * * Re: To MR UNHappy strom chaser   Wed Sep 22 2004 09:31 AM
. * * Re: To MR UNHappy cmdebbie   Tue Sep 21 2004 10:31 PM
. * * Re: To MR UNHappy recmod   Tue Sep 21 2004 10:12 PM
. * * Re: To MR UNHappy Lake Toho - Kissimmee   Tue Sep 21 2004 10:52 PM
. * * Re: To MR UNHappy mom2als   Wed Sep 22 2004 12:48 AM
. * * Re: To MR UNHappy Redbird1   Wed Sep 22 2004 11:07 AM
. * * Re: To MR UNHappy Mr. UnHappy   Wed Sep 22 2004 08:29 AM
. * * What is your thinking on the wave behind Lisa? Matt033   Wed Sep 22 2004 01:12 AM
. * * Thomas says Florida beware again WXMAN RICHIE   Tue Sep 21 2004 10:01 PM
. * * Re: Thomas says Florida beware again Rasvar   Tue Sep 21 2004 10:13 PM
. * * Re: Thomas says Florida beware again WXMAN RICHIE   Tue Sep 21 2004 10:16 PM
. * * Jeanne News Worsens Yet Again recmod   Tue Sep 21 2004 10:29 PM
. * * Re: Jeanne News Worsens Yet Again recmod   Tue Sep 21 2004 11:12 PM
. * * Re: Jeanne News Worsens Yet Again Steve   Tue Sep 21 2004 11:35 PM
. * * Re: Jeanne News Worsens Yet Again Kent   Wed Sep 22 2004 12:15 AM
. * * Re: Thomas says Florida beware again 52255225   Tue Sep 21 2004 10:10 PM
. * * Re: FEMA danielwAdministrator   Tue Sep 21 2004 09:08 PM
. * * Re: Jeanne 5 Day leetdan   Tue Sep 21 2004 08:48 PM
. * * Re: Jeanne 5 Day anon   Wed Sep 22 2004 08:05 AM
. * * Re: Jeanne 5 Day Redbird1   Tue Sep 21 2004 08:05 PM
. * * Re: Jeanne 5 Day troy   Tue Sep 21 2004 08:38 PM
. * * Re: Jeanne 5 Day LI Phil   Tue Sep 21 2004 08:55 PM
. * * Ivan remnants getting pulzerized by shear Frank P   Tue Sep 21 2004 09:12 PM
. * * Re: Bear Watch danielwAdministrator   Tue Sep 21 2004 09:35 PM
. * * Re: Bear Watch Frank P   Tue Sep 21 2004 09:44 PM
. * * Re: Bear Watch SoonerShawn   Tue Sep 21 2004 09:40 PM
. * * Re: Bear Watch BillD   Tue Sep 21 2004 09:39 PM
. * * Re: Jeanne 5 Day DroopGB31   Tue Sep 21 2004 09:06 PM
. * * Re: Jeanne 5 Day DroopGB31   Tue Sep 21 2004 09:11 PM
. * * Re: Jeanne 5 Day Steve   Tue Sep 21 2004 07:49 PM
. * * Jeanne's Death Toll Rising Fast recmod   Tue Sep 21 2004 07:24 PM
. * * Re: Jeanne-retirement after the season? Rabbit   Tue Sep 21 2004 05:19 PM
. * * Re: Jeanne-retirement after the season? Ricreig   Tue Sep 21 2004 05:34 PM
. * * Re: Jeanne-retirement after the season? Redbird1   Tue Sep 21 2004 05:38 PM
. * * Re: Jeanne-retirement after the season? Ricreig   Tue Sep 21 2004 04:10 PM
. * * Re: Jeanne-retirement after the season? clueless   Tue Sep 21 2004 02:05 PM
. * * Re: Jeanne-retirement after the season? leetdan   Tue Sep 21 2004 02:09 PM
. * * Re: Jeanne-retirement after the season? scottsvb   Tue Sep 21 2004 02:09 PM
. * * Re: Jeanne-retirement after the season? Rasvar   Tue Sep 21 2004 02:36 PM
. * * Re: Jeanne-retirement after the season? doug   Tue Sep 21 2004 02:16 PM
. * * HPC/TPC? Ed in Va   Tue Sep 21 2004 02:30 PM
. * * Re: HPC/TPC? Clark   Tue Sep 21 2004 05:03 PM
. * * Re: HPC/TPC? Ed in Va   Tue Sep 21 2004 05:06 PM
. * * Re: HPC/TPC? LI Phil   Tue Sep 21 2004 02:32 PM
. * * Re: HPC/TPC? Ed in Va   Tue Sep 21 2004 02:53 PM
. * * T numbers Bloodstar   Tue Sep 21 2004 02:36 PM
. * * Re: Jeanne-retirement after the season? Fletch   Tue Sep 21 2004 02:21 PM
. * * Re: Jeanne-retirement after the season? Katie   Tue Sep 21 2004 02:40 PM
. * * Re: Jeanne-retirement after the season? Fletch   Tue Sep 21 2004 02:44 PM
. * * Re: Jeanne-retirement after the season? leetdan   Tue Sep 21 2004 04:17 PM
. * * Re: Jeanne-retirement after the season? leetdan   Tue Sep 21 2004 02:29 PM
. * * Re: Jeanne-retirement after the season? Domino   Tue Sep 21 2004 02:31 PM
. * * Re: Jeanne-retirement after the season? Domino   Tue Sep 21 2004 02:39 PM
. * * Re: Jeanne-retirement after the season? LI Phil   Tue Sep 21 2004 02:47 PM
. * * Re: Jeanne-retirement after the season? Domino   Tue Sep 21 2004 02:48 PM
. * * Retirement of names LI Phil   Tue Sep 21 2004 02:57 PM
. * * Re: Retirement of names Steve-unplugged   Tue Sep 21 2004 03:06 PM
. * * love this view of ivan lois   Tue Sep 21 2004 03:28 PM
. * * Re: Jeanne-retirement after the season? Domino   Tue Sep 21 2004 02:25 PM
. * * Re: Jeanne-retirement after the season? Fletch   Tue Sep 21 2004 02:13 PM
. * * Re: Ivan's Return LI Phil   Tue Sep 21 2004 01:40 PM
. * * Re: Ivan's Return MO STORMSPOTTER   Tue Sep 21 2004 01:29 PM
. * * Med. Storm? Bloodstar   Tue Sep 21 2004 01:16 PM
. * * Re: Med. Storm? Domino   Tue Sep 21 2004 01:26 PM
. * * Re: Med. Storm? clueless   Tue Sep 21 2004 01:57 PM
. * * Re: Joe's Daily Column is free today Terry Johnson   Tue Sep 21 2004 12:58 PM
. * * Re: Joe's Daily Column is free today doug   Tue Sep 21 2004 01:21 PM
. * * Re: Joe's Daily Column is free today tpratch   Tue Sep 21 2004 01:00 PM
. * * Re: Joe's Daily Column is free today leetdan   Tue Sep 21 2004 12:55 PM
. * * Re: Question for Mike or John C... MikeCAdministrator   Tue Sep 21 2004 12:12 PM
. * * Re: survived because of a one degree dogleg right at the last minute...whew! leetdan   Tue Sep 21 2004 11:25 AM
. * * Re: survived because of a one degree dogleg right at the last minute...whew! Frank P   Tue Sep 21 2004 10:22 AM
. * * Re: survived because of a one degree dogleg right at the last minute...whew! GuppieGrouper   Tue Sep 21 2004 10:37 AM
. * * Re: survived because of a one degree dogleg right at the last minute...whew! Steve   Tue Sep 21 2004 10:06 AM
. * * Re: survived because of a one degree dogleg right at the last minute...whew! Clark   Tue Sep 21 2004 12:19 PM
. * * Re: survived because of a one degree dogleg right at the last minute...whew! Shalafi   Tue Sep 21 2004 01:14 PM
. * * Re: survived because of a one degree dogleg right at the last minute...whew! Ricreig   Tue Sep 21 2004 01:47 PM
. * * Re: survived because of a one degree dogleg right at the last minute...whew! Shalafi   Tue Sep 21 2004 01:54 PM
. * * Re: survived because of a one degree dogleg right at the last minute...whew! Kent   Tue Sep 21 2004 10:50 AM
. * * Re: The Basin Stays Busy scottsvb   Tue Sep 21 2004 12:49 AM
. * * Re: The Basin Stays Busy Hurric   Tue Sep 21 2004 12:46 AM
. * * Re: The Basin Stays Busy Wxwatcher2   Mon Sep 20 2004 11:22 PM
. * * Re: The Basin Stays Busy DebbiePSL   Mon Sep 20 2004 11:30 PM
. * * Re: The Basin Stays Busy Lake Toho - Kissimmee   Mon Sep 20 2004 11:32 PM
. * * Re: The Basin Stays Busy DebbiePSL   Mon Sep 20 2004 11:35 PM
. * * Re: The Basin Stays Busy 52255225   Mon Sep 20 2004 11:29 PM
. * * Re: The Basin Stays Busy 52255225   Mon Sep 20 2004 11:30 PM
. * * Re: The Basin Stays Busy ShanaTX   Mon Sep 20 2004 01:07 AM
. * * Re: The Basin Stays Busy Storm Cooper   Mon Sep 20 2004 12:33 AM

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