one other distrubing thing about that WV loop Phil, and I'm sure you noticed, that ridge looks relatively solid to the NE of the system and perhaps looks to be building to the wsw... which if comes to fruition, would make it even worse for Florida.... the ridge will be the key, as it was for Frances and Ivan... forecast really quite simple with Jeanne now, it will follow the southern rim of the ridge along its outer edge.... now where will be ridge set up as it approaches landfall is the big question???
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