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Ed Dunham
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Re: Subtropical Storm Nicole Develops Near Bermuda
Sun Oct 10 2004 06:00 PM

NHC has corrected the central pressure to 1000mb in their text bulletins. I think that it was posted in error on the NHC website (or it was an oversite). It does raise an interesting question though regarding classifications of storms versus watches and warnings for them. Gale and Storm Warnings are associated with extratropical systems. Tropical Storm/Hurricane Watches and Warnings are associated with tropical cyclones. With Nicole, you have both a Gale Warning (extratropical) and a Tropical Storm Watch (tropical) issued for Bermuda. Since sustained Tropical Storm force winds have already been reported on Bermuda, the value of the TS Watch mystifies me. I doubt that the folks on Bermuda really care if you define their current winds as extratropical or tropical - I don't think that the precautions they take are any different. Since we now name subtropical cyclones, I would suggest that, in order to avoid public confusion, the tropical set of advisories/warnings should be applied for subtropical systems. With understanding for the meteorological differences, should Bermuda now be under a Tropical Storm Watch or a Subtropical Storm Warning? I'll opt for the latter.
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Subject	Posted by	Posted on
Subtropical Storm Nicole Develops Near Bermuda	Ed Dunham	Sun Oct 10 2004 06:00 PM
Re: Subtropical Storm Nicole Develops Near Bermuda	Keith234	Sun Oct 10 2004 05:40 PM
Re: Subtropical Storm Nicole Develops Near Bermuda	Ed Dunham	Sun Oct 10 2004 06:00 PM
Re: Subtropical Storm Nicole Develops Near Bermuda	Keith234	Sun Oct 10 2004 06:19 PM
Re: Subtropical Storm Nicole Develops Near Bermuda	Terra	Sun Oct 10 2004 06:06 PM
Re: Subtropical Systems	Ed Dunham	Sun Oct 10 2004 06:26 PM
Re: Subtropical Storm Nicole Develops Near Bermuda	ShanaTX	Sun Oct 10 2004 06:02 PM
Re: Subtropical Storm Nicole Develops Near Bermuda	Keith234	Sun Oct 10 2004 06:36 PM
Re: Subtropical Storm Nicole Develops Near Bermuda	ShanaTX	Sun Oct 10 2004 06:46 PM
Hurricane Season 2004 Website	recmod	Mon Oct 11 2004 06:59 AM
Re: Hurricane Season 2004 Website	Anony	Mon Oct 11 2004 12:07 PM
Large waves from Karl	Domino	Mon Oct 11 2004 05:02 AM
Nicole reclassified to Tropical Storm	danielw	Sun Oct 10 2004 10:26 PM
Re: Nicole reclassified to Tropical Storm	Ed Dunham	Sun Oct 10 2004 10:55 PM
Re: Nicole reclassified to Tropical Storm	Steve	Sun Oct 10 2004 11:05 PM
Re: Nicole reclassified to Tropical Storm	danielw	Sun Oct 10 2004 10:48 PM
Nicole thoughts	Clark	Sun Oct 10 2004 11:20 PM
Re: Nicole thoughts	Matt033	Sun Oct 10 2004 11:28 PM
Re: Nicole thoughts	Clark	Mon Oct 11 2004 12:13 AM
Re: Nicole thoughts	Matt033	Mon Oct 11 2004 03:03 AM
Re: Nicole thoughts	Keith234	Mon Oct 11 2004 10:42 AM
Re: Nicole thoughts	Clark	Mon Oct 11 2004 01:16 PM
Re: Nicole thoughts	Keith234	Mon Oct 11 2004 01:26 PM
Overview of Current Weather	Keith234	Mon Oct 11 2004 03:58 PM
Back after a nice respite (for me)	LI Phil	Mon Oct 11 2004 04:54 PM
Re: Back after a nice respite (for me)	Keith234	Mon Oct 11 2004 05:10 PM
Re: Back after a nice respite (for me)	LI Phil	Mon Oct 11 2004 05:23 PM
Re: Back after a nice respite (for me)	Redbird	Tue Oct 12 2004 05:42 PM
Re: Back after a nice respite (for me)	Keith234	Mon Oct 11 2004 06:29 PM
New Invest	Bloodstar	Mon Oct 11 2004 06:42 PM
Re: New Invest	Keith234	Mon Oct 11 2004 07:44 PM
Re: New Invest	HumanCookie	Mon Oct 11 2004 08:37 PM
Re: New Invest	Ricreig	Tue Oct 12 2004 02:17 PM
Current Weather Overview 10/12	Keith234	Tue Oct 12 2004 04:48 PM
Thoughts from Thomas	WXMAN RICHIE	Tue Oct 12 2004 05:39 PM
Re: Thoughts from Thomas	LONNY307	Wed Oct 13 2004 07:55 AM
Re: Thoughts from Thomas	Storm Cooper	Wed Oct 13 2004 10:40 AM
Re: Back after a nice respite (for me)	Katie	Mon Oct 11 2004 04:57 PM
Re: Back after a nice respite (for me)	GuppieGrouper	Mon Oct 11 2004 07:34 PM
Re: Nicole thoughts	DroopGB31	Mon Oct 11 2004 03:34 PM
Re: Interesting Read	RedingtonBeachGuy	Sun Oct 10 2004 10:39 PM
Re: Subtropical Storm Nicole Develops Near Bermuda	Matt033	Sun Oct 10 2004 06:46 PM
Re: Subtropical Storm Nicole Develops Near Bermuda	Keith234	Sun Oct 10 2004 03:19 PM
Re: Subtropical Storm Nicole Develops Near Bermuda	Keith234	Sun Oct 10 2004 04:51 PM
More Records For 2004 Hurricane Season	recmod	Sun Oct 10 2004 05:17 PM
Re: More Records For 2004 Hurricane Season	ShanaTX	Sun Oct 10 2004 06:06 PM
Re: More Records For 2004 Hurricane Season	Keith234	Sun Oct 10 2004 05:25 PM
Re: Subtropical Storm Nicole Develops Near Bermuda	Rabbit	Sun Oct 10 2004 01:02 PM

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