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Gulf area up to 60% chance for weak development. A new Atlantic system is now up with a 20% chance for development, FL east coast and GA coast should watch for mid-late this week.
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Re: Activity Near Bermuda
      Mon Oct 25 2004 03:08 AM

Thanks James, HF, and Phil for the birthday wishes -- nope, not 24 this time around HF, just 21.

To comment on a couple of things around...
* Danny -- the difference in the locations could well be explained by the QuikSCAT wind field from the storm or from weak vortices rotating around the system. It looked/looks impressive on satellite, but the QuikSCAT winds showed a somewhat weirdly elongated trough out of the northeast side of the main center. With weak vortices rotating around the storm from time to time, an objective analysis technique may well pick up on a smaller vortex if there doesn't appear to be a fully "closed" main center of circulation, accounting for the difference in position from the two agencies. At least that's my best guess.

* HF, the phase analyses all show a symmetric yet shallow warm-core structure with this storm. This is indicative of a hybrid system with subtropical characteristics. Satellite appearence isn't as impressive tonight as last night, but it's still pretty good. Scatterometer winds aren't very high with the system, but the wind profile is such that the strongest winds are both near the center as well as well-removed from the center -- a good 35kt from the center to locations a couple of hundred miles out, especially west and south. Again, this is indicative of a hybrid/subtropical structure. I think the NHC is missing this one, but it's understandable considering everything else that's gone on this year. Talking to one of the forecasters, they've got their plates full with a lot of stuff right now.

As I was telling Danny though, you could make the case for 4-5 subtropical storms this year alone. This one, Nicole, the one directly after it in the East Atlantic, the May Haiti storm, and the Mediterranean low just after the main influx of activity -- all have had similar structures for at least a day and were at least looked at by the NHC. Oh well -- it's picking nits at this point, but add in 4 subtropical storms and, if you really want to, a name for the storm that Lisa merged with and you get 5 extra storms...taking us to 19 on the year.

What a season it's been nonetheless, though.

As an aside or two -- in one of the other forums, I'm going to post a couple of pictures of the Escambia Bay Bridge that I took 2 weeks ago right after it re-opened in Pensacola, and I saw an interesting shirt today while eating lunch. On the front, it said "FLORIDA HURRICANE TOUR 2004" with a picture of Florida and the 4 major storms that went through, while on the back, like a concert listing, it had Charley, Frances, Ivan, and Jeanne alone with locations and dates. Got a kick out of it -- something that works now but wasn't so good near the time of the storm.

Alas, it's nice to have some quiet tropics for now.

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Subject Posted by Posted on
* Activity Near Bermuda Ed DunhamAdministrator Mon Oct 25 2004 03:08 AM
. * * Re: Activity Near Bermuda Clark   Sun Oct 24 2004 03:19 AM
. * * Re: Activity Near Bermuda LI Phil   Sun Oct 24 2004 04:25 PM
. * * Re: Activity Near Bermuda Clark   Mon Oct 25 2004 03:08 AM
. * * Re: Activity Near Bermuda danielwAdministrator   Mon Oct 25 2004 08:23 AM
. * * Re: Activity Near Bermuda Rabbit   Mon Oct 25 2004 02:39 PM
. * * Re: Activity Near Bermuda Bermuda   Mon Oct 25 2004 07:56 PM
. * * mjo LoisCane   Mon Oct 25 2004 07:58 PM
. * * Re: mjo LI Phil   Mon Oct 25 2004 08:32 PM
. * * Re: mjo James88   Mon Oct 25 2004 10:16 PM
. * * hanging in there bobbi   Wed Oct 27 2004 05:35 PM
. * * This is weird Keith234   Thu Oct 28 2004 10:33 PM
. * * Caribbean Update danielwAdministrator   Fri Oct 29 2004 07:43 AM
. * * Re: Caribbean Update Keith234   Fri Oct 29 2004 10:47 AM
. * * Re: Caribbean Update bobbi   Fri Oct 29 2004 03:36 PM
. * * Re: Caribbean Update Domino   Fri Oct 29 2004 12:54 PM
. * * Re: Caribbean Update Keith234   Fri Oct 29 2004 06:39 PM
. * * Re: Caribbean Update Storm Cooper   Fri Oct 29 2004 06:55 PM
. * * Re: Activity Near Bermuda Ed in Va   Mon Oct 25 2004 03:25 PM
. * * activity near the islands LoisCane   Mon Oct 25 2004 07:15 PM
. * * Re: Activity Near Bermuda LI Phil   Mon Oct 25 2004 03:41 PM
. * * herr otto? HanKFranK   Sun Oct 24 2004 07:53 PM
. * * Re: herr otto? Keith234   Sun Oct 24 2004 09:01 PM
. * * Re: herr otto? James88   Sun Oct 24 2004 07:56 PM
. * * Re: Activity Near Bermuda danielwAdministrator   Sun Oct 24 2004 06:38 AM
. * * Re: Activity Near Bermuda Keith234   Sun Oct 24 2004 01:42 PM
. * * Re: Activity Near Bermuda LI Phil   Sat Oct 23 2004 11:23 PM
. * * Re: Activity Near Bermuda danielwAdministrator   Sat Oct 23 2004 11:55 PM
. * * Re: Activity Near Bermuda danielwAdministrator   Sun Oct 24 2004 12:03 AM
. * * Re: Activity Near Bermuda danielwAdministrator   Sun Oct 24 2004 12:22 AM
. * * Re:Tropical Weather Update danielwAdministrator   Sun Oct 24 2004 12:10 AM
. * * Re:Tropical Weather Update Heather   Sun Oct 24 2004 12:58 AM

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