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HanKFranK
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Mon Sep 16 2002 06:04 PM

well, when i said i could see stratus inflow suggesting a low level center on the western edge, recon still hadnt checked that part of the storm, and they only gave one more obs before running home. very annoying. now the center is leading the convection, exposed.. under outflow clouds building back over it from the east.. but you can see it. go look at the nhc visible floater, they finally decided to retask it and stop staring at the fair skies over alabama. shows up on nasa satelite page as well (third or fourth link at the bottom of the nhc imagery page).
my ideas are less cut and dry at this point. the center is running ahead naked just a hair above 15n at 76w. moving due west as well. this is typical tropical system behavior. the visible llc is inside of an inflow envelope which is feeding back into the main convection to the west.. so basically it is supporting convection for fifty miles away but not for itself. no further organization until the center redevelops back east or starts generating a convective core.
night is falling and tracking the low level feature will be quite difficult. all i can look for is convection building west of the current mass.
basically there are three possiblities:
1)system finally builds a convective core, begins turning up and threatens
2)system keeps jumping ahead of the convection, shooting itself in the foot, never deepens, hits central america after days of goofing around
3)system commits suicide by running ahead too far
someone earlier mentioned that since this system is a threat to florida if it develops along expected lines, we can be sure that it wont (steve h?) i have to echo that sentiment.. year after year we watch what by historical inference should come pound florida, keep it on its usual strike pace.. recurve early or just keep charging westward to belize or the yucatan. all bets are off until this system gets its act together.
other note.. surprised no invest on the 33/51 system. its sort of in 'duh, im developing' mode.
HF 2157z16september

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Tropical Depression 10 Forms Near Venezuela	CFHC	Mon Sep 16 2002 06:04 PM
Re: Tropical Depression 10 Forms Near Venezuela	Anonymous	Mon Sep 16 2002 06:46 PM
Re: Tropical Depression 10 Forms Near Venezuela	Anonymousnickd	Mon Sep 16 2002 07:51 AM
Re: Tropical Depression 10 Forms Near Venezuela	Mike	Mon Sep 16 2002 08:23 AM
Early morning thoughts.	Kevin	Mon Sep 16 2002 08:50 AM
Re: Early morning thoughts.	doug	Mon Sep 16 2002 09:35 AM
visibles	HanKFranK	Mon Sep 16 2002 10:19 AM
Re: HankFrank	Kevin	Mon Sep 16 2002 10:34 AM
Kevin nothing at 11 AM	Cycloneye	Mon Sep 16 2002 11:17 AM
Advisory thoughts.	Kevin	Mon Sep 16 2002 11:26 AM
gfdl	HanKFranK	Mon Sep 16 2002 10:22 AM
STARTING TO CRANK UP	WXMAN RICHIE	Mon Sep 16 2002 08:17 AM
Re: Tropical Depression 10 Forms Near Venezuela	Anonymous	Sun Sep 15 2002 08:41 PM
Robert	ShawnS	Sun Sep 15 2002 08:46 PM
Re: Robert	Robert	Sun Sep 15 2002 08:55 PM
Re: Robert	AnonymousW	Sun Sep 15 2002 08:59 PM
Re: Robert	Jeanine	Sun Sep 15 2002 09:12 PM
convection	HanKFranK	Sun Sep 15 2002 09:24 PM
repost	Anonymous	Sun Sep 15 2002 10:06 PM
Re: Tropical Depression 10 Forms Near Venezuela	Joe	Sun Sep 15 2002 08:45 PM
Re: Tropical Depression 10 Forms Near Venezuela	Anonymous	Sun Sep 15 2002 08:32 PM
Re: Tropical Depression 10 Forms Near Venezuela	Anonymous	Sun Sep 15 2002 07:27 PM
Re: Tropical Depression 10 Forms Near Venezuela	Robert	Sun Sep 15 2002 07:39 PM
HF try this link..	Anonymous	Sun Sep 15 2002 07:46 PM
Also..	Anonymous	Sun Sep 15 2002 07:50 PM
Re: Tropical Depression 10 Forms Near Venezuela	Anonymous	Sun Sep 15 2002 05:17 PM
TD#10	ShawnS	Sun Sep 15 2002 05:22 PM
Re: Tropical Depression 10 Forms Near Venezuela	MarkTropics	Sun Sep 15 2002 05:06 PM
Re: Tropical Depression 10 Forms Near Venezuela	Anonymous	Sun Sep 15 2002 04:13 PM
Hold on...TD10 isn't dead.	Kevin	Sun Sep 15 2002 04:29 PM
Re: Tropical Depression 10 Forms Near Venezuela	Anonymous	Sun Sep 15 2002 11:47 AM
Re: Tropical Depression 10 Forms Near Venezuela	Anonymous	Sun Sep 15 2002 11:13 AM
Probably not an East Coast storm...	Kevin	Sun Sep 15 2002 11:49 AM
Re: Probably not an East Coast storm...	Anonymous	Sun Sep 15 2002 12:17 PM
Re: Probably not an East Coast storm...	Mary	Sun Sep 15 2002 12:12 PM
ten	HanKFranK	Sun Sep 15 2002 12:29 PM
TAMPA DISCUSSION	WXMAN RICHIE	Sun Sep 15 2002 02:31 PM
Saints .......	Frank P	Sun Sep 15 2002 03:07 PM
ten again	HanKFranK	Sun Sep 15 2002 03:23 PM
Re: Tropical Depression 10 Forms Near Venezuela	Rad	Sun Sep 15 2002 11:47 AM
Re: Tropical Depression 10 Forms Near Venezuela	Anonymous	Sun Sep 15 2002 06:17 PM
reformation	Robert	Sun Sep 15 2002 06:23 PM
Re: Tropical Depression 10 Forms Near Venezuela	Anonymous	Sun Sep 15 2002 05:27 PM
Re: Tropical Depression 10 Forms Near Venezuela	Robert	Sun Sep 15 2002 06:10 PM
Excellent Analysis!	Ed Dunham	Sun Sep 15 2002 06:31 PM
Re: Excellent Analysis!	Kevin	Sun Sep 15 2002 06:41 PM
Re: Excellent Analysis!	57497479	Sun Sep 15 2002 06:48 PM
??	HanKFranK	Sun Sep 15 2002 06:53 PM
Re: ??	Robert	Sun Sep 15 2002 06:57 PM
Re: ??	Robert	Sun Sep 15 2002 06:59 PM
Re: ??	ShawnS	Sun Sep 15 2002 07:04 PM
Re: Tropical Depression 10 Forms Near Venezuela	Robert	Sun Sep 15 2002 06:14 PM
Re: Tropical Depression 10 Forms Near Venezuela	Anonymous	Sun Sep 15 2002 08:03 PM
Re: Tropical Depression 10 Forms Near Venezuela	Joe	Sun Sep 15 2002 08:10 PM
Re: Tropical Depression 10 Forms Near Venezuela	Robert	Sun Sep 15 2002 08:22 PM
Re: Tropical Depression 10 Forms Near Venezuela	Joe	Sun Sep 15 2002 08:29 PM
Re: Tropical Depression 10 Forms Near Venezuela	Anonymous	Sun Sep 15 2002 11:22 PM
Re: Tropical Depression 10 Forms Near Venezuela	troy2	Mon Sep 16 2002 11:35 AM
Re: Tropical Depression 10 Forms Near Venezuela	Anonymous	Mon Sep 16 2002 12:09 PM
Re: Tropical Depression 10 Forms Near Venezuela	Mike	Mon Sep 16 2002 12:30 PM
Your Capt Crunch wasn't spiked at all...	Kevin	Mon Sep 16 2002 11:45 AM
Re: Your Capt Crunch wasn't spiked at all...	troy2	Mon Sep 16 2002 02:47 PM
Re: Your Capt Crunch wasn't spiked at all...	Anonymous	Mon Sep 16 2002 02:45 PM
Re: Your Capt Crunch wasn't spiked at all...	Anonymous	Mon Sep 16 2002 02:49 PM
Re: Your Capt Crunch wasn't spiked at all...	troy2	Mon Sep 16 2002 02:19 PM
recon..	HanKFranK	Mon Sep 16 2002 02:24 PM
Re: recon..	Kevin	Mon Sep 16 2002 02:34 PM
No closed circulation yet.	Kevin	Mon Sep 16 2002 02:50 PM
Re: No closed circulation yet.	Anonymous	Mon Sep 16 2002 03:31 PM
LLCC	Anonymous	Mon Sep 16 2002 02:48 PM
re im a fool	Robert	Mon Sep 16 2002 02:52 PM
Re: re im a fool	Kevin	Mon Sep 16 2002 02:56 PM
Re: Your Capt Crunch wasn't spiked at all...	troy2	Mon Sep 16 2002 01:59 PM
Re: Your Capt Crunch wasn't spiked at all...	Robert	Mon Sep 16 2002 02:07 PM
Re: Your Capt Crunch wasn't spiked at all...	Anonymous	Mon Sep 16 2002 02:05 PM
side note	HanKFranK	Mon Sep 16 2002 02:17 PM
Re: side note	Robert	Mon Sep 16 2002 02:45 PM
Possible LLC	greg-kfdmtv	Mon Sep 16 2002 05:55 PM
Re: side note	Anonymous	Mon Sep 16 2002 05:46 PM
Re: side note	Anonymous	Mon Sep 16 2002 05:34 PM
Re: side note	Anonymous	Mon Sep 16 2002 04:39 PM
Re: The Keys	tom5r	Mon Sep 16 2002 05:01 PM
Re:5pm weather	Jeanine	Mon Sep 16 2002 05:15 PM
Re:5pm weather	Robert	Mon Sep 16 2002 05:23 PM
LOCAL REPORT	WXMAN RICHIE	Mon Sep 16 2002 05:34 PM
Re: LOCAL REPORT	Kevin	Mon Sep 16 2002 05:41 PM
Re: LOCAL REPORT	tom5r	Mon Sep 16 2002 06:35 PM
Re: LOCAL REPORT	troy2	Mon Sep 16 2002 06:47 PM
Re: LOCAL REPORT	Robert	Mon Sep 16 2002 06:51 PM
Local reports extremely vague tonight.	Kevin	Mon Sep 16 2002 07:06 PM
Re: LOCAL REPORT	troy2	Mon Sep 16 2002 06:38 PM
Re: LOCAL REPORT	Robert	Mon Sep 16 2002 06:42 PM
irritation	HanKFranK	Mon Sep 16 2002 06:04 PM
Re: irritation	Anonymous	Mon Sep 16 2002 06:24 PM
Bastardi	Robert	Mon Sep 16 2002 06:37 PM
Re: side note	Anonymous	Mon Sep 16 2002 04:05 PM
Possible close-off and latest GFDL run (armageddon, as always)	Kevin	Mon Sep 16 2002 04:19 PM
Re: Possible close-off and latest GFDL run (armageddon, as always)	Joe	Mon Sep 16 2002 04:25 PM
Re: side note	Anonymous	Mon Sep 16 2002 03:30 PM
Re: Steve H.	Kevin	Mon Sep 16 2002 03:44 PM
Re: Your Capt Crunch wasn't spiked at all...	troy2	Mon Sep 16 2002 01:50 PM
Re: Your Capt Crunch wasn't spiked at all...	Anonymous	Mon Sep 16 2002 01:54 PM
Re: Your Capt Crunch wasn't spiked at all...	troy2	Mon Sep 16 2002 01:41 PM
Re: Your Capt Crunch wasn't spiked at all...	troy2	Mon Sep 16 2002 01:20 PM
Re: Your Capt Crunch wasn't spiked at all...	troy2	Mon Sep 16 2002 01:10 PM
Re: Your Capt Crunch wasn't spiked at all...	Anonymous	Mon Sep 16 2002 12:43 PM
Re: Your Capt Crunch wasn't spiked at all...	Kevin	Mon Sep 16 2002 12:51 PM
Re: Your Capt Crunch wasn't spiked at all...	Anonymous	Mon Sep 16 2002 12:55 PM
Re: Your Capt Crunch wasn't spiked at all...	Kevin	Mon Sep 16 2002 01:00 PM
Re: Your Capt Crunch wasn't spiked at all...	Anonymous	Mon Sep 16 2002 01:06 PM
Re: Your Capt Crunch wasn't spiked at all...	Kevin	Mon Sep 16 2002 01:12 PM
Re: Your Capt Crunch wasn't spiked at all...	anonnnnn	Mon Sep 16 2002 01:23 PM
Re: Your Capt Crunch wasn't spiked at all...	Anonymous	Mon Sep 16 2002 01:31 PM
Re: Your Capt Crunch wasn't spiked at all...	troy2	Mon Sep 16 2002 12:39 PM
Re: Your Capt Crunch wasn't spiked at all...	troy2	Mon Sep 16 2002 11:50 AM
Re: Tropical Depression 10 Forms Near Venezuela	Tony	Mon Sep 16 2002 10:41 AM
Re: Tropical Depression 10 Forms Near Venezuela	Anonymous	Mon Sep 16 2002 10:50 AM
Re: Tropical Depression 10 Forms Near Venezuela	Robert	Mon Sep 16 2002 11:06 AM
Re: Tropical Depression 10 Forms Near Venezuela	Tony	Mon Sep 16 2002 10:17 AM
Re: Tropical Depression 10 Forms Near Venezuela	Anonymous	Mon Sep 16 2002 07:33 AM
Re: Tropical Depression 10 Forms Near Venezuela	Anonymous	Mon Sep 16 2002 02:54 AM
Re: Tropical Depression 10 Forms Near Venezuela	Domino	Mon Sep 16 2002 03:05 AM
Return of TD10...soon?	Kevin	Sun Sep 15 2002 11:39 PM
N of PR	Anonymous	Sun Sep 15 2002 11:34 PM
RE	Robert	Mon Sep 16 2002 12:00 AM
want visibles...	HanKFranK	Mon Sep 16 2002 12:16 AM
Re: frank	Anonymous	Mon Sep 16 2002 12:28 AM
Re: frank	Robert	Mon Sep 16 2002 12:29 AM
Re: Tropical Depression 10 Forms Near Venezuela	Anonymous	Sun Sep 15 2002 11:15 PM
Re: Tropical Depression 10 Forms Near Venezuela	Anonymous	Sun Sep 15 2002 10:47 PM
Re: Tropical Depression 10 Forms Near Venezuela	Anonymous	Sun Sep 15 2002 10:55 PM
It's definitely not dead yet	Alex k	Sun Sep 15 2002 10:45 PM
Re: Tropical Depression 10 Forms Near Venezuela	Anonymous	Sun Sep 15 2002 10:37 PM
Re: Tropical Depression 10 Forms Near Venezuela	Anonymous	Sun Sep 15 2002 10:32 PM
Re: Tropical Depression 10 Forms Near Venezuela	Marktropic	Sun Sep 15 2002 10:43 PM
Re: Tropical Depression 10 Forms Near Venezuela	Anonymous	Sun Sep 15 2002 10:45 PM
Re: Tropical Depression 10 Forms Near Venezuela	Eduardo	Sun Sep 15 2002 10:39 PM
Re: Tropical Depression 10 Forms Near Venezuela	Anonymous	Sun Sep 15 2002 10:11 PM
Re: Tropical Depression 10 Forms Near Venezuela	Jeanine	Sun Sep 15 2002 10:27 PM
Re: tracking software	Robert	Sun Sep 15 2002 10:34 PM
Re: Tropical Depression 10 Forms Near Venezuela	Anonymous	Sun Sep 15 2002 10:26 PM
Re: Tropical Depression 10 Forms Near Venezuela	Anonymous	Sun Sep 15 2002 08:53 PM
Shwan s	Robert	Sun Sep 15 2002 08:40 PM
thanks	HanKFranK	Sun Sep 15 2002 08:27 PM
Re: Tropical Depression 10 Forms Near Venezuela	ShawnS	Sun Sep 15 2002 08:20 PM
Re: Tropical Depression 10 Forms Near Venezuela	troy2	Sun Sep 15 2002 07:55 PM
Re: Tropical Depression 10 Forms Near Venezuela	troy2	Sun Sep 15 2002 06:59 PM
Re: Tropical Depression 10 Forms Near Venezuela	Robert	Sun Sep 15 2002 06:59 PM
Re: Tropical Depression 10 Forms Near Venezuela	troy2	Sun Sep 15 2002 06:57 PM
Re: Tropical Depression 10 Forms Near Venezuela	Anonymous	Sun Sep 15 2002 06:38 PM
Re: Tropical Depression 10 Forms Near Venezuela	Anonymous	Sun Sep 15 2002 05:08 PM
ten plays dead	HanKFranK	Sun Sep 15 2002 05:26 PM
Re: ten plays dead	Kevin	Sun Sep 15 2002 06:09 PM
Re: Tropical Depression 10 Forms Near Venezuela	Anonymous	Sun Sep 15 2002 05:13 PM
Re: Tropical Depression 10 Forms Near Venezuela	57497479	Sun Sep 15 2002 06:17 PM
Re: Tropical Depression 10 Forms Near Venezuela	Joe	Sun Sep 15 2002 05:15 PM
Re: Tropical Depression 10 Forms Near Venezuela	troy2	Sun Sep 15 2002 04:35 PM
TD#10...no more. it's a wave	Anonymousnickd	Sun Sep 15 2002 04:47 PM
Re: TD#10...no more. it's a wave	Jeanine	Sun Sep 15 2002 04:56 PM
Re: Tropical Depression 10 Forms Near Venezuela	Anonymous	Sun Sep 15 2002 03:25 PM
Re: Tropical Depression 10 Forms Near Venezuela	troy2	Sun Sep 15 2002 09:48 AM
Re: Tropical Depression 10 Forms Near Venezuela	Anonymous	Sun Sep 15 2002 08:23 AM
Model Map	Tony	Sun Sep 15 2002 02:51 AM
Re: Tropical Depression 10 Forms Near Venezuela	ShawnS	Sat Sep 14 2002 10:49 PM
Re: Tropical Depression 10 Forms Near Venezuela	57497479	Sat Sep 14 2002 11:24 PM
Reformation	Robert	Sat Sep 14 2002 11:28 PM
Re: Reformation	Anonymous	Sun Sep 15 2002 12:01 AM
Easy Does It	Ed Dunham	Sun Sep 15 2002 12:20 AM
Re: Easy Does It	HanKFranK	Sun Sep 15 2002 01:10 AM
Re: Easy Does It	mp3reed	Sun Sep 15 2002 10:40 AM
LLC??	Anonymousnickd	Sun Sep 15 2002 10:47 AM
The center has now emerged over water.	Kevin	Sun Sep 15 2002 11:01 AM
Link not working...here's how you get there.	Kevin	Sun Sep 15 2002 11:05 AM
Re: LLC??	Anonymous	Sun Sep 15 2002 10:56 AM
With the tropics more or less dead for tonight, let me be the first...	Anonymous	Sun Sep 15 2002 02:18 AM
Re: With the tropics more or less dead for tonight, let me be the first...	57497479	Sun Sep 15 2002 06:39 AM
TD #10	WXMAN RICHIE	Sun Sep 15 2002 08:01 AM
Re: TD #10	57497479	Sun Sep 15 2002 09:06 AM
Re: TD #10	caneman	Sun Sep 15 2002 08:21 AM
Re: TD #10	Robert	Sun Sep 15 2002 08:23 AM
Re: TD #10/Robert	Jeanine	Sun Sep 15 2002 09:58 AM
Re: TD #10/Robert	Joe	Sun Sep 15 2002 10:33 AM
Re: TD #10/Robert	Frank P	Sun Sep 15 2002 10:21 AM

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