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The "Perfect Storm"
      Sat May 21 2005 08:05 PM

Not to correct Clark, as he is essentially correct anyway, but having read Sebastian Junger's book and the subsequent adaptation onto the bigscreen, i learned much of this storm...here's a fairly terse event of the separate and unique storm systems which all came together to form what was called "The Perfect Storm". No storm is a "perfect storm", but it seemed like a catchy title (supposedly one of the NWS or local forecasters "coined" this term, though he denies ever making this statement on air)...here, then, is that summary:

The making of a 'perfect storm'

On Oct. 27, 1991, Hurricane Grace formed over the warm Atlantic Ocean southwest of Bermuda. The hurricane continued to grow over the warm waters of the Atlantic. By late on Oct. 28, the storm's 95 mph winds pushed 10 - 15 foot swells towards the coast of the Southeast USA.

Meanwhile, along the East Coast, the weather on Oct. 28 began to show improvement as high pressure moved in behind a cold front that moved off the coast earlier in the day. Along the eastward marching cold front, a new area of spinning low pressure developed just east of Nova Scotia.

On Oct. 29, Grace moved north along the front toward the stalling low-pressure area. Drawing Grace into its large circulation, the low-pressure system exploded into a major storm as it fed off the temperature difference provided by cold, dry air to its northwest clashing with the warmth and humidity from the remnants of Grace.

But it wasn't until this intense low-pressure area moved west toward the USA and then south and east to a point midway between Bermuda and New Jersey that it reached its maximum intensity. At this point on Oct. 30, sustained winds in the storm reached 70 mph, churning the Atlantic into a maelstrom of 40- to 80-foot waves, as reported by a weather buoy east of Long Island, N.Y. Other unsubstantiated observations reported winds and waves considerably higher, including a 101 foot wave measured by a buoy south of Nova Scotia, Canada.

During Oct. 30 - 31, the storm, still churning over the Atlantic, pounded much of eastern North America from North Carolina to Nova Scotia with waves 10 to 30 feet high. High tides along the coast were three to seven feet above normal, exacerbating the storm's effects. Heavy surf and extreme coastal flooding caused extensive damage along the New England and mid-Atlantic coast. Damage estimates in Massachusetts alone reached $100 million. Federal disaster areas were declared for seven counties in Massachusetts, five in Maine, and one in New Hampshire.Coastal flooding and raging seas raked places from Jamaica to Newfoundland, Canada.

The storm continued to churn the Atlantic for another two days before making landfall along the Nova Scotia coast November 2, 1991. As if its tumultuous life was not already enough, the immense mid-latitude storm evolved into a hurricane again when its center moved over the warm waters of the Gulf Stream Nov. 1. Hurricane hunters dispatched to the storm confirmed the transistion. But the National Hurricane Center decided not to name the hurricane for fear it would unnecessarily alarm coastal residents that had just weathered a major northeaster, as well as confuse people into thinking it might mean another major storm.

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. * * Re: Models tornado00   Fri May 27 2005 07:06 AM
. * * Re: Models Bloodstar   Fri May 27 2005 11:26 PM
. * * Re: Models Storm Cooper   Sat May 28 2005 09:16 AM
. * * Re: Models tornado00   Sat May 28 2005 12:45 PM
. * * Re:Gray's new # out javlin   Fri May 27 2005 01:45 PM
. * * Re:Gray's new # out Bloodstar   Fri May 27 2005 11:09 PM
. * * Re: EastPac Depression Taking Unusual Path Derek Sutherland   Wed May 18 2005 03:43 PM
. * * Re: EastPac Depression Taking Unusual Path tornado00   Wed May 18 2005 03:53 PM
. * * Re: EastPac Depression Taking Unusual Path hurricane_run   Tue May 17 2005 08:47 PM
. * * Re: EastPac Depression Taking Unusual Path Keith234   Tue May 17 2005 08:55 PM
. * * Re: EastPac Depression Taking Unusual Path Lysis   Tue May 17 2005 08:53 PM
. * * Re: EastPac Depression Taking Unusual Path hurricane_run   Tue May 17 2005 09:07 PM
. * * Re: Adrian/Arlene hurricane_run   Wed May 18 2005 04:36 PM
. * * Re: EastPac Depression Taking Unusual Path hurricane_run   Tue May 17 2005 09:09 PM
. * * Re: EastPac Depression Taking Unusual Path Lysis   Tue May 17 2005 09:12 PM
. * * Re: EastPac Depression Taking Unusual Path hurricane_run   Tue May 17 2005 09:18 PM
. * * Re: EastPac Depression Taking Unusual Path Katie   Tue May 17 2005 09:38 PM
. * * Re: EastPac Depression danielwAdministrator   Tue May 17 2005 09:44 PM
. * * Omg!!! hurricaneds   Thu May 19 2005 07:42 AM
. * * Re: Omg!!! ftlaudbob   Thu May 19 2005 09:57 AM
. * * Re: Omg!!! rmbjoe1954   Thu May 19 2005 10:01 AM
. * * please help ftlaudbob   Thu May 19 2005 10:05 AM
. * * Re: please help HanKFranK   Thu May 19 2005 11:07 AM
. * * Re: please help Keith234   Thu May 19 2005 02:44 PM
. * * maybes HanKFranK   Thu May 19 2005 03:09 PM
. * * Re: maybes Keith234   Thu May 19 2005 03:18 PM
. * * Re: maybes Clark   Thu May 19 2005 04:19 PM
. * * Re: maybes hurricane_run   Thu May 19 2005 07:58 PM
. * * Re: maybes Storm Hunter   Thu May 19 2005 09:19 PM
. * * Re: maybes ftlaudbob   Thu May 19 2005 10:13 PM
. * * arlene may have to wait LI Phil   Fri May 20 2005 12:32 AM
. * * Re: arlene may have to wait HF gone home   Fri May 20 2005 01:59 AM
. * * Re: arlene may have to wait LadyStorm   Fri May 20 2005 05:43 AM
. * * Re: arlene may have to wait hurricane_run   Fri May 20 2005 06:13 AM
. * * Re: arlene may have to wait nl   Fri May 20 2005 06:37 AM
. * * Re: arlene may have to wait javlin   Fri May 20 2005 07:43 AM
. * * Re: arlene may have to wait Cycloneye11   Fri May 20 2005 08:14 AM
. * * Re: arlene may have to wait Colleen A.   Fri May 20 2005 09:47 AM
. * * Re: arlene may have to wait Clark   Fri May 20 2005 10:05 AM
. * * any cool hurricane links? ftlaudbob   Fri May 20 2005 01:25 PM
. * * Re: any cool hurricane links? B.C.Francis   Fri May 20 2005 01:40 PM
. * * Re: any cool hurricane links? Jamiewx   Fri May 20 2005 01:55 PM
. * * Re: any cool hurricane links? LadyStorm   Sat May 21 2005 04:21 AM
. * * Re: any cool hurricane links? tornado00   Sat May 21 2005 07:45 AM
. * * Re: any cool hurricane links? LadyStorm   Sat May 21 2005 09:57 AM
. * * Re: any cool hurricane links? tornado00   Sat May 21 2005 07:47 AM
. * * HAPPY BIRTHDAY LI Phil   Sat May 21 2005 06:33 AM
. * * Re: HAPPY BIRTHDAY Storm Cooper   Sat May 21 2005 08:11 AM
. * * Re: HAPPY BIRTHDAY FlaMommy   Sat May 21 2005 10:10 AM
. * * Re: whats near Will   Sat May 21 2005 05:44 PM
. * * Re: whats near Clark   Sat May 21 2005 07:21 PM
. * * The "Perfect Storm" LI Phil   Sat May 21 2005 08:05 PM
. * * Re: The "Perfect Storm" Clark   Sat May 21 2005 11:45 PM
. * * Anomalies or abnormalities? danielwAdministrator   Sat May 21 2005 09:58 PM
. * * Re: Anomalies or abnormalities? danielwAdministrator   Sun May 22 2005 09:17 PM
. * * Re: Anomalies or abnormalities? Cycloneye11   Sun May 22 2005 08:24 AM
. * * Where's my royalties? LI Phil   Sun May 22 2005 09:11 PM
. * * Re: LI Phil 5/22/05 doug   Tue May 24 2005 12:41 PM
. * * interesting ftlaudbob   Tue May 24 2005 01:50 PM
. * * Re: interesting *DELETED* danielwAdministrator   Wed May 25 2005 12:52 AM
. * * NHC/ TPC on top of things! danielwAdministrator   Wed May 25 2005 01:12 AM
. * * Re: interesting ftlaudbob   Tue May 24 2005 02:21 PM
. * * Re: interesting Bloodstar   Tue May 24 2005 03:51 PM
. * * Re: interesting Clark   Tue May 24 2005 05:01 PM
. * * Re: interesting Bloodstar   Tue May 24 2005 05:57 PM
. * * Re: interesting ftlaudbob   Tue May 24 2005 09:56 PM
. * * Re: interesting ftlaudbob   Wed May 25 2005 12:11 AM
. * * Re: Where's my royalties? danielwAdministrator   Sun May 22 2005 09:42 PM
. * * Re: Where's my royalties? LI Phil   Sun May 22 2005 10:30 PM
. * * Re: Where's my royalties? danielwAdministrator   Sun May 22 2005 10:53 PM
. * * late spring pattern (repost) Ed DunhamAdministrator   Mon May 23 2005 07:03 PM
. * * Special Tropical Disturbance Statement MapMaster   Tue May 24 2005 11:11 AM
. * * Re: Where's my royalties? LI Phil   Sun May 22 2005 09:25 PM
. * * Re: whats near Bloodstar   Sat May 21 2005 08:00 PM
. * * Re: whats near Lysis   Sat May 21 2005 07:43 PM
. * * QUIET MAY DON   Tue May 24 2005 01:55 PM
. * * Re: HAPPY BIRTHDAY Cycloneye11   Sat May 21 2005 07:13 AM
. * * Re: any cool hurricane links? Steve Hirschb.   Fri May 20 2005 07:18 PM
. * * Re: any cool hurricane links? Lysis   Fri May 20 2005 08:24 PM
. * * is it safe to say that... Ryan   Sat May 21 2005 01:24 AM
. * * Re: arlene may have to wait B.C.Francis   Fri May 20 2005 08:46 AM
. * * Re: arlene may have to wait Liz   Fri May 20 2005 09:08 AM
. * * Re: arlene may have to wait B.C.Francis   Fri May 20 2005 09:39 AM
. * * Re: maybes HanKFranK   Thu May 19 2005 03:46 PM
. * * OT Keith234   Thu May 19 2005 04:50 PM
. * * Hurricane Warning's up for el salvador Keith234   Thu May 19 2005 06:15 PM
. * * Re: Hurricane Warning's up for el salvador Lysis   Thu May 19 2005 07:04 PM
. * * Re: Hurricane Warning's up for el salvador Cycloneye11   Thu May 19 2005 07:18 PM
. * * Re: Hurricane Warning's up for el salvador hurricane_run   Thu May 19 2005 07:12 PM
. * * Re: Hurricane Warning's up for el salvador hurricane_run   Thu May 19 2005 07:19 PM
. * * Re: Hurricane Warning's up for el salvador Heather   Thu May 19 2005 07:32 PM
. * * Re: Hurricane Warning's up for el salvador Lysis   Thu May 19 2005 07:44 PM
. * * Re: Hurricane Warning's up for el salvador hurricane_run   Thu May 19 2005 07:49 PM
. * * Re: Hurricane Warning's up for el salvador FlaMommy   Thu May 19 2005 07:51 PM
. * * Re: maybes Bloodstar   Thu May 19 2005 03:58 PM
. * * Re: maybes LI Phil   Thu May 19 2005 03:40 PM
. * * Re: please help javlin   Thu May 19 2005 11:36 AM
. * * Re: please help Sadie   Thu May 19 2005 12:11 PM
. * * Adrian upgraded MapMaster   Thu May 19 2005 01:57 PM
. * * Re: Adrian upgraded hurricane_run   Thu May 19 2005 02:35 PM
. * * up up and away...2 the storm Storm Hunter   Thu May 19 2005 09:56 AM
. * * Re: EastPac Depression LI Phil   Tue May 17 2005 09:56 PM
. * * Re: EastPac Depression h2ocean   Tue May 17 2005 10:52 PM
. * * Re: EastPac Depression LI Phil   Tue May 17 2005 11:32 PM
. * * Re: EastPac Depression javlin   Tue May 17 2005 11:24 PM
. * * Re: EastPac Depression Clark   Tue May 17 2005 11:39 PM
. * * precedence HanKFranK   Wed May 18 2005 12:37 AM
. * * Re: EastPac Depression mysticalmooons   Wed May 18 2005 12:19 AM
. * * Re: Tropical Storm Adrian danielwAdministrator   Wed May 18 2005 12:51 AM
. * * Re: Tropical Storm Adrian HanKFranK   Wed May 18 2005 01:05 AM
. * * Re: Tropical Storm Adrian mysticalmooons   Wed May 18 2005 01:17 AM
. * * Re: Tropical Storm Adrian danielwAdministrator   Wed May 18 2005 01:37 AM
. * * Re: Tropical Storm Adrian SkeetoBiteAdministrator   Wed May 18 2005 08:15 AM
. * * Re: Tropical Storm Adrian Southern4sure   Wed May 18 2005 09:56 AM
. * * Re: Tropical Storm Adrian AgentB   Wed May 18 2005 10:19 AM
. * * Re: Tropical Storm Adrian Colleen A.   Wed May 18 2005 11:53 AM
. * * Re: Tropical Storm Adrian ftlaudbob   Wed May 18 2005 12:00 PM
. * * Re: Tropical Storm Adrian Colleen A.   Wed May 18 2005 12:08 PM
. * * Re: Tropical Storm Adrian ftlaudbob   Wed May 18 2005 12:43 PM
. * * Re: Tropical Storm Adrian James88   Wed May 18 2005 01:12 PM
. * * Re: Tropical Storm Adrian Bloodstar   Wed May 18 2005 01:17 PM
. * * Re: Tropical Storm Adrian ftlaudbob   Wed May 18 2005 01:24 PM
. * * Re: Tropical Storm Adrian LI Phil   Wed May 18 2005 01:37 PM
. * * Re: Tropical Storm Adrian Clark   Wed May 18 2005 02:19 PM
. * * Re: Tropical Storm Adrian HF (work)   Wed May 18 2005 02:26 PM
. * * Re: Tropical Storm Adrian Clark   Wed May 18 2005 03:20 PM
. * * Re: Tropical Storm Adrian javlin   Wed May 18 2005 04:13 PM
. * * Re: Tropical Storm Adrian hurricane_run   Wed May 18 2005 04:18 PM
. * * Re: Tropical Storm Adrian hurricane_run   Wed May 18 2005 04:41 PM
. * * Re: Tropical Storm Adrian Kevin   Wed May 18 2005 04:45 PM
. * * Adrian/Arlene LI Phil   Wed May 18 2005 04:31 PM
. * * Re: Adrian/Arlene Keith234   Wed May 18 2005 05:24 PM
. * * Re: Adrian/Arlene JustMe   Wed May 18 2005 05:50 PM
. * * Re: Adrian/Arlene hurricane_run   Wed May 18 2005 05:54 PM
. * * Re: Adrian/Arlene hurricane_run   Wed May 18 2005 06:08 PM
. * * Re: Adrian/Arlene rmbjoe1954   Wed May 18 2005 04:38 PM
. * * Re: Adrian/Arlene hurricane_run   Wed May 18 2005 04:45 PM
. * * Re: Adrian/Arlene trinibaje   Wed May 18 2005 04:51 PM
. * * Re: Adrian/Arlene hurricane_run   Wed May 18 2005 04:54 PM
. * * Re: Adrian/Arlene hurricane_run   Wed May 18 2005 04:55 PM
. * * Re: Adrian/Arlene trinibaje   Wed May 18 2005 05:00 PM
. * * Re: Adrian/Arlene FlaMommy   Wed May 18 2005 05:01 PM
. * * Re: Adrian/Arlene FlaMommy   Wed May 18 2005 05:03 PM
. * * Re: Adrian/Arlene Keith234   Wed May 18 2005 06:05 PM
. * * Re: Adrian/Arlene hurricane_run   Wed May 18 2005 06:11 PM
. * * Re: Adrian/Arlene MissBecky   Wed May 18 2005 06:14 PM
. * * Re: Adrian/Arlene Clark   Wed May 18 2005 07:21 PM
. * * Re: Adrian/Arlene hurricane_run   Wed May 18 2005 07:52 PM
. * * Re: Adrian/Arlene Storm Hunter   Wed May 18 2005 09:47 PM
. * * Re: Adrian/Arlene Colleen A.   Wed May 18 2005 10:19 PM
. * * Re: Adrian/Arlene Katie   Wed May 18 2005 10:29 PM
. * * Re: Adrian/Arlene Colleen A.   Fri May 20 2005 09:38 AM
. * * Re: Adrian/Arlene Colleen A.   Wed May 18 2005 10:23 PM
. * * Re: Adrian/Arlene Keith234   Wed May 18 2005 06:30 PM
. * * Re: Adrian/Arlene javlin   Wed May 18 2005 06:45 PM
. * * Re: Adrian/Arlene mikeG   Wed May 18 2005 06:53 PM
. * * Re: Adrian/Arlene MissBecky   Wed May 18 2005 06:36 PM
. * * status HanKFranK   Wed May 18 2005 06:54 PM
. * * Re: status Hurricane Guy   Wed May 18 2005 07:00 PM
. * * Re: Adrian/Arlene hurricane_run   Wed May 18 2005 06:21 PM
. * * Re: Adrian/Arlene Storm Cooper   Wed May 18 2005 06:26 PM
. * * Re: Adrian/Arlene hurricane_run   Wed May 18 2005 06:29 PM
. * * Re: Adrian/Arlene hurricane_run   Wed May 18 2005 06:33 PM
. * * Re: Tropical Storm Adrian hurricane_run   Wed May 18 2005 02:43 PM
. * * Re: Tropical Storm Adrian ncmike   Wed May 18 2005 02:56 PM
. * * Re: Tropical Storm Adrian (position) hurricane_run   Wed May 18 2005 04:11 PM
. * * Re: Tropical Storm Adrian Keith234   Wed May 18 2005 03:31 PM
. * * Re: Tropical Storm Adrian LI Phil   Wed May 18 2005 03:37 PM
. * * Re: Tropical Storm Adrian Keith234   Wed May 18 2005 03:54 PM
. * * Re: Tropical Storm Adrian Liz   Wed May 18 2005 01:58 PM
. * * Re: Tropical Storm Adrian ftlaudbob   Wed May 18 2005 02:02 PM
. * * Re: Tropical Storm Adrian Wingman51   Wed May 18 2005 01:40 PM
. * * interesting link for florida residents ftlaudbob   Wed May 18 2005 10:53 AM
. * * Re: Tropical Storm Adrian rmbjoe1954   Wed May 18 2005 09:21 AM
. * * Re: Tropical Storm Adrian B.C.Francis   Wed May 18 2005 09:11 AM
. * * Re: Tropical Storm Adrian mysticalmooons   Wed May 18 2005 01:50 AM
. * * Re: Tropical Storm Adrian mysticalmooons   Wed May 18 2005 01:56 AM
. * * Re: Tropical Storm Adrian Storm Hunter   Wed May 18 2005 05:15 AM
. * * Re: Tropical Storm Adrian danielwAdministrator   Wed May 18 2005 05:30 AM
. * * Re: Tropical Storm Adrian Storm Hunter   Wed May 18 2005 05:33 AM
. * * Re: Tropical Storm Adrian Shalafi   Wed May 18 2005 07:16 AM
. * * Deluge in Puerto Rico Cycloneye11   Wed May 18 2005 07:26 AM
. * * Re: Deluge in Puerto Rico nl   Wed May 18 2005 07:58 AM
. * * Re: Deluge in Puerto Rico javlin   Wed May 18 2005 08:07 AM
. * * Good Link Cocoa Beach   Wed May 18 2005 08:12 AM
. * * Re: Good Link nl   Wed May 18 2005 08:21 AM
. * * Re: Good Link wxman007   Wed May 18 2005 10:16 AM
. * * Re: Good Link rmbjoe1954   Wed May 18 2005 09:23 AM
. * * Re: Good Link mysticalmooons   Wed May 18 2005 09:27 AM
. * * Re: Good Link AgentB   Wed May 18 2005 11:45 AM
. * * HEY COLLEEN! LI Phil   Wed May 18 2005 11:52 AM
. * * Re: HEY COLLEEN! Colleen A.   Wed May 18 2005 11:59 AM
. * * Re: HEY COLLEEN! LI Phil   Wed May 18 2005 12:01 PM
. * * Re: HEY COLLEEN! Colleen A.   Wed May 18 2005 12:17 PM
. * * Re: HEY COLLEEN! Wingman51   Wed May 18 2005 12:32 PM
. * * Re: HEY COLLEEN! wxman007   Wed May 18 2005 12:43 PM
. * * Re: HEY COLLEEN! Wingman51   Wed May 18 2005 01:12 PM
. * * Re: HEY COLLEEN! FlaMommy   Wed May 18 2005 12:40 PM
. * * Re: Good Link Shalafi   Wed May 18 2005 09:01 AM
. * * Re: EastPac Depression Clark   Tue May 17 2005 10:51 PM
. * * Re: More Lightning danielwAdministrator   Tue May 17 2005 10:43 PM
. * * Re: Not lightning Mapmaster   Tue May 17 2005 09:53 PM
. * * May? Doombot!   Wed May 18 2005 01:05 AM
. * * Re: May? LI Phil   Wed May 18 2005 01:18 AM
. * * Re: EastPac Depression Taking Unusual Path Heather   Tue May 17 2005 09:43 PM
. * * Re: EastPac Depression Taking Unusual Path Lysis   Tue May 17 2005 09:08 PM
. * * Re: EastPac Depression Taking Unusual Path LI Phil   Tue May 17 2005 08:58 PM
. * * Re: EastPac Depression Taking Unusual Path Lysis   Tue May 17 2005 09:04 PM
. * * Re: EastPac Depression Taking Unusual Path LI Phil   Tue May 17 2005 09:11 PM

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