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Newly tagged Invest 91L in the Central American Gyre heading towards MX/TX, a slow and sprawling flood threat. Bahamas hybrid well E of FL 10%/30% odd and expected to track back to the W across FL or SE US this week.
Days since last H. Landfall - US: Any 292 (Idalia) , Major: 292 (Idalia) Florida - Any: 292 (Idalia) Major: 292 (Idalia)
 


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      Wed Sep 18 2002 01:13 AM

i keep hearing 'convection is starting to wrap around the center' and 'i can see the spin' all the time.. yet still we still have a big amorphous system with convection bursting mostly east of the center. the center is still at the eastern edge of the whole mass, below the western side of jamaica. folks really just plot the center from the vortex message (it has been erratically bobbing around south of jamaica all day) and you can see that the storm is still lopsided and disorganized. believe it or not the reason the storm isnt intensifying is BECAUSE of all the convection away west. put it in the wrong place and it starves the center of inflow, if the upward forcing is going on elsewhere. the richest inflow in this case is the low level easterly flow... and where is most of the deep (very deep) convection.. east of the center.
system is still the snowball at the top of the hill. once the convection finally starts to 'wrap' as everybody always claims to see (or at least some bursts west of the center, or directly overhead).. then this thing will start to deepen like crazy.
keep delaying that and the storm misses critical guidance connections.. in other words we get a wandering system that doesnt try to phase in. a massive storm that is a forecasting nightmare.
its very unlikely this storm will continue to avoid deepening indefinitely, but not impossible. i must say though, i have never seen a storm in a better position keep refusing to knock out the one stone that causes the mountain to fall.
HF 0105z18september

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* TD #10 and TD #11 CFHCAdministrator Wed Sep 18 2002 01:13 AM
. * * Re: TD #10 and TD #11 Anonymous   Wed Sep 18 2002 02:31 AM
. * * Re: TD #10 and TD #11 rick in mobile   Wed Sep 18 2002 02:36 AM
. * * Re: TD #10 and TD #11 Anonymous   Wed Sep 18 2002 02:26 AM
. * * Re: TD #10 and TD #11 rick in mobile   Wed Sep 18 2002 02:02 AM
. * * MIAMI STATEMENT WXMAN RICHIE   Wed Sep 18 2002 02:10 AM
. * * Re: TD #10 and TD #11 Anonymous   Wed Sep 18 2002 01:58 AM
. * * Re: TD #10 and TD #11 Anonymous   Wed Sep 18 2002 01:55 AM
. * * Check This Out...... Colleen A.   Wed Sep 18 2002 02:10 AM
. * * Re: Check This Out...... nick   Wed Sep 18 2002 02:21 AM
. * * Re: TD #10 and TD #11 Joe   Wed Sep 18 2002 01:58 AM
. * * eye? Domino   Wed Sep 18 2002 05:53 AM
. * * Re: eye? Anonymous   Wed Sep 18 2002 07:35 AM
. * * Re: eye? Rich B   Wed Sep 18 2002 08:09 AM
. * * Re WHAT DIRECTION? 57497479   Wed Sep 18 2002 10:00 AM
. * * Re: eye? Anonymous   Wed Sep 18 2002 07:14 AM
. * * Re: eye? troy2   Wed Sep 18 2002 06:11 AM
. * * Re: eye? troy2   Wed Sep 18 2002 06:09 AM
. * * Re: eye? troy2   Wed Sep 18 2002 06:04 AM
. * * Re: eye? troy2   Wed Sep 18 2002 06:02 AM
. * * Re: eye? Domino   Wed Sep 18 2002 06:07 AM
. * * Re: eye? Anonymous   Wed Sep 18 2002 06:10 AM
. * * Re: eye? Domino   Wed Sep 18 2002 06:13 AM
. * * Re: eye? Anonymous   Wed Sep 18 2002 06:33 AM
. * * Re: eye? troy2   Wed Sep 18 2002 05:58 AM
. * * Mary clyde w.   Wed Sep 18 2002 03:38 AM
. * * Re: Mary Floridacane   Wed Sep 18 2002 03:44 AM
. * * Re: TD #10 and TD #11 troy2   Wed Sep 18 2002 03:36 AM
. * * Local Wx Reports clyde w.   Wed Sep 18 2002 03:33 AM
. * * Re: Local Wx Reports wxman007   Wed Sep 18 2002 05:02 AM
. * * Re: TD #10 and TD #11 clyde w.   Wed Sep 18 2002 03:04 AM
. * * Re: TD #10 and TD #11 Mary   Wed Sep 18 2002 03:33 AM
. * * Re: TD #10 and TD #11 Anonymous   Wed Sep 18 2002 03:05 AM
. * * New data alan   Wed Sep 18 2002 02:49 AM
. * * All I can say is... StormHound   Wed Sep 18 2002 02:55 AM
. * * Re: All I can say is... Mary   Wed Sep 18 2002 03:07 AM
. * * de plane.. de plane... HanKFranK   Wed Sep 18 2002 03:36 AM
. * * by the way.. HanKFranK   Wed Sep 18 2002 03:41 AM
. * * Re: All I can say is... Anonymous   Wed Sep 18 2002 03:03 AM
. * * knots to mph Anonymous   Wed Sep 18 2002 02:39 AM
. * * Re: TD #10 and TD #11 Anonymous   Wed Sep 18 2002 02:17 AM
. * * ten HanKFranK   Wed Sep 18 2002 02:22 AM
. * * Hey Ronn!! Anonymous   Wed Sep 18 2002 01:53 AM
. * * Re: TD #10 and TD #11 Ronn   Wed Sep 18 2002 01:12 AM
. * * Re: TD #10 and TD #11 APM   Wed Sep 18 2002 01:03 AM
. * * target....gulf of mexico...then? Rick in Mobile   Wed Sep 18 2002 12:27 AM
. * * Re: target....gulf of mexico...then? mbfly   Wed Sep 18 2002 01:34 AM
. * * Re: target....gulf of mexico...then? JustMe   Wed Sep 18 2002 01:54 AM
. * * Re: target....gulf of mexico...then? Anonymous   Wed Sep 18 2002 01:43 AM
. * * Predicting Predictions Anonymous   Wed Sep 18 2002 12:42 AM
. * * talk talk HanKFranK   Wed Sep 18 2002 01:13 AM
. * * Re: talk talk rickin mobile   Wed Sep 18 2002 01:26 AM
. * * Re: TD #10 and TD #11 clyde w.   Wed Sep 18 2002 12:00 AM
. * * Not concerned in Louisiana... Anonymous   Wed Sep 18 2002 12:17 AM
. * * Re: TD #10 and TD #11 clyde w.   Tue Sep 17 2002 11:47 PM
. * * Re: TD #10 and TD #11 Anonymous   Tue Sep 17 2002 11:16 PM
. * * Re: TD #10 and TD #11 57497479   Tue Sep 17 2002 11:52 PM
. * * Re: TD #10 and TD #11 Rad   Tue Sep 17 2002 11:40 PM
. * * Re: TD #10 and TD #11 ROB H   Tue Sep 17 2002 11:58 PM
. * * Re: TD #10 and TD #11 Anonymous   Tue Sep 17 2002 09:56 PM
. * * cor HanKFranK   Tue Sep 17 2002 10:27 PM
. * * Re: cor Colleen A.   Tue Sep 17 2002 10:39 PM
. * * Re: cor HanKFranK   Tue Sep 17 2002 11:02 PM
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