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Unseasonably stout wave in Caribbean bringing enhanced showers and tstorms for several days, but lacks model support for development 5/26
Days since last H. Landfall - US: Any 275 (Idalia) , Major: 275 (Idalia) Florida - Any: 275 (Idalia) Major: 275 (Idalia)
 


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92L
      Tue Jun 14 2005 02:08 AM

in the west caribbean we have a synoptically forced invest tonight. diffluence south of the split from from the upper trough immediately to the north, and a persistent logjam in the trades in the western caribbean is feeding this puppy for now. like last year, the TUTT seems to consist not of a broad, table-sweeping trough, but an endless series of cut off lows that alternately aid and squelch develpment. as far as june is concerned, anyway.
92L has been showing consistently for about a week as a system originating near jamaica and moving either over the area from haiti to eastern cuba, and northeast into the westerlies. the big ridge near the east coast that jammed arlene up to the great lakes (hpc just issued their final advisory on the depression over the 'thumb' of lower michigan) is flattening out, while in it's earlier surge it had dug a weakness on its southeastern flank that extends down into the deep tropics.. acting with the tutt, contributing to the 'logjam' by synoptically forcing the rising of air in the region, and the lowering of surface pressure. if anything is to materialize, it will likely resemble that unclassified system from may of 2004.. perhaps as a clear cut tropical cyclone, but sheared and 'side-heavy' in profile. it should move slowly enough in a support environment to get a good shot at a surface low over the next couple of days, but be sheared and turned northeast beyond that point.. over the bahamas and out into the open atlantic.
there isn't another system the models are approaching enthusiastically beyond this one.. occasional blips in the gulf (that tend to move NE and don't appear on consecutive runs), and that suspicious looking cape verde system which has emerged as a strong but not evidently cyclonic wave. neither has much support.. one lacks a strong, clear pattern forcing element... the other would have to be a world-class early bird to form east of the islands this time of year.
if the caribbean feature develops into a named storm, it will be the first time since 1986 that two storms formed in june. 1982 (and nearly 1997) had a couplet of june systems, but one was subtropical in nature. it doesn't happen very often, and is more typical of either a strong el nino year or a hyperactive season. the latter is more feasible... we all know that may be what we're looking at this year.
first light visibles and some solid recon should give us something to check tomorrow.
HF 0306z14june

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* New Areas to Watch Past Arlene MikeCAdministrator Tue Jun 14 2005 02:08 AM
. * * Re: New Areas to Watch Past Arlene KN4LF   Mon Jun 13 2005 10:31 PM
. * * Models Jamiewx   Mon Jun 13 2005 11:10 PM
. * * Re: New Areas to Watch Past Arlene SkeetoBiteAdministrator   Mon Jun 13 2005 12:42 PM
. * * Re: New Areas to Watch Past Arlene Bloodstar   Mon Jun 13 2005 05:53 PM
. * * Re: New Areas to Watch Past Arlene Ricreig   Mon Jun 13 2005 03:49 PM
. * * Re: New Areas to Watch Past Arlene javlin   Mon Jun 13 2005 04:17 PM
. * * Re: New Areas to Watch Past Arlene Artsy Fartsy   Mon Jun 13 2005 04:35 PM
. * * Re: New Areas to Watch Past Arlene Tazmanian93   Mon Jun 13 2005 05:01 PM
. * * Re: New Areas to Watch Past Arlene Bloodstar   Mon Jun 13 2005 05:58 PM
. * * Re: New Areas to Watch Past Arlene rmbjoe1954   Mon Jun 13 2005 06:03 PM
. * * Re: New Areas to Watch Past Arlene Katie   Mon Jun 13 2005 05:27 PM
. * * Re: Birthday Tazmanian93   Mon Jun 13 2005 06:15 PM
. * * Re: Birthday Katie   Mon Jun 13 2005 08:28 PM
. * * Re: Birthday Tazmanian93   Tue Jun 14 2005 02:04 AM
. * * Recon Jamiewx   Mon Jun 13 2005 09:23 PM
. * * Re: Recon Storm Cooper   Mon Jun 13 2005 09:25 PM
. * * Re: Recon Clark   Mon Jun 13 2005 10:05 PM
. * * Re:GFS danielwAdministrator   Mon Jun 13 2005 11:27 PM
. * * too early... AMK   Tue Jun 14 2005 04:19 AM
. * * Re:GFS dem05   Tue Jun 14 2005 01:07 AM
. * * Re:GFS danielwAdministrator   Tue Jun 14 2005 01:27 AM
. * * Re:GFS Jamiewx   Tue Jun 14 2005 01:14 AM
. * * 92L Jamiewx   Wed Jun 15 2005 12:53 AM
. * * 92L... la nina? HanKFranK   Wed Jun 15 2005 03:17 AM
. * * Re: 92L HURRICANESRULE   Wed Jun 15 2005 01:57 AM
. * * Re: 92L Clark   Wed Jun 15 2005 02:29 AM
. * * Re: 92L LI Phil   Wed Jun 15 2005 02:37 AM
. * * Re: 92L Clark   Wed Jun 15 2005 04:36 AM
. * * Possible Low Cocoa Beach   Wed Jun 15 2005 11:27 AM
. * * Re: Possible Low Ed in Va   Wed Jun 15 2005 01:40 PM
. * * Recon on Thursday wxman007   Wed Jun 15 2005 03:27 PM
. * * Re: Recon on Thursday rmbjoe1954   Wed Jun 15 2005 03:36 PM
. * * Re: Recon on Thursday wxman007   Wed Jun 15 2005 03:58 PM
. * * Re: Recon on Thursday Liz   Wed Jun 15 2005 03:34 PM
. * * Re: Recon on Thursday LI Phil   Wed Jun 15 2005 03:31 PM
. * * 93L for BOC Cycloneye11   Wed Jun 15 2005 04:07 PM
. * * Re: 93L for BOC LI Phil   Wed Jun 15 2005 04:17 PM
. * * Heat Katie   Wed Jun 15 2005 06:13 PM
. * * 93L Jamiewx   Wed Jun 15 2005 06:17 PM
. * * Re: 93L Hurricane Fredrick 1979   Wed Jun 15 2005 07:44 PM
. * * Models out for 93L Jamiewx   Wed Jun 15 2005 08:38 PM
. * * Re: Models out for 93L Clark   Wed Jun 15 2005 09:48 PM
. * * Re: Models out for 93L Cycloneye11   Wed Jun 15 2005 10:21 PM
. * * 92L, 93L HanKFranK   Wed Jun 15 2005 11:33 PM
. * * Re: Wet S Fla weekend Tropics Guy   Thu Jun 16 2005 12:45 AM
. * * Re: Wet S Fla weekend Lar   Thu Jun 16 2005 02:50 AM
. * * Re: Wet S Fla weekend BillD   Thu Jun 16 2005 03:11 AM
. * * Re: Wet S Fla weekend GuppieGrouper   Thu Jun 16 2005 10:38 AM
. * * Re: Wet S Fla weekend LONNY307   Thu Jun 16 2005 11:45 AM
. * * Re: Wet S Fla weekend hurricane54   Thu Jun 16 2005 01:35 PM
. * * Re: Wet S Fla weekend Rich B   Thu Jun 16 2005 01:43 PM
. * * No recon for BOC Cycloneye11   Thu Jun 16 2005 03:01 PM
. * * Bret in the works, and.... MapMaster   Thu Jun 16 2005 04:25 PM
. * * Re: Bret in the works, and.... B.C.Francis   Thu Jun 16 2005 04:54 PM
. * * Re: Bret in the works, and.... rmbjoe1954   Thu Jun 16 2005 05:38 PM
. * * 2 PM EDT Tropical Wx Discussion danielwAdministrator   Thu Jun 16 2005 05:58 PM
. * * Re: Bret MapMaster   Thu Jun 16 2005 08:14 PM
. * * Re: Bret Clark   Thu Jun 16 2005 08:42 PM
. * * Re: Bret MapMaster   Thu Jun 16 2005 09:25 PM
. * * Re: Bret Clark   Thu Jun 16 2005 10:11 PM
. * * Re: Bret LI Phil   Thu Jun 16 2005 10:21 PM
. * * Re: Bret Clark   Fri Jun 17 2005 12:24 AM
. * * say what HanKFranK   Fri Jun 17 2005 04:00 AM
. * * NW caribbean, Again rmbjoe1954   Fri Jun 17 2005 04:17 PM
. * * Re: NW caribbean, Again Clark   Fri Jun 17 2005 05:37 PM
. * * assembly HanKFranK   Fri Jun 17 2005 06:31 PM
. * * 93L Invest mysticalmooons   Fri Jun 17 2005 08:07 PM
. * * Re: 93L Invest LI Phil   Sat Jun 18 2005 06:09 PM
. * * Re: 93L Invest BillD   Sun Jun 19 2005 01:17 AM
. * * Re: 93L Invest Storm Cooper   Sun Jun 19 2005 01:24 AM
. * * Re: 93L Invest Clark   Fri Jun 17 2005 08:58 PM
. * * Re: Bret Hurricane Fredrick 1979   Thu Jun 16 2005 10:53 PM
. * * Re: Bret Hurricane Fredrick 1979   Thu Jun 16 2005 11:47 PM
. * * Re: Bret Jamiewx   Thu Jun 16 2005 09:38 PM
. * * Re: Bret MapMaster   Thu Jun 16 2005 09:07 PM
. * * Re: Bret Hurricane Fredrick 1979   Thu Jun 16 2005 08:33 PM
. * * Re: Bret Jamiewx   Thu Jun 16 2005 08:37 PM
. * * Re: Bret Hurricane Fredrick 1979   Thu Jun 16 2005 09:56 PM
. * * Re: Bret Mapmaster   Thu Jun 16 2005 08:40 PM
. * * Re: Bret Jamiewx   Thu Jun 16 2005 08:24 PM
. * * Re: Models out for 93L Hurricane Fredrick 1979   Wed Jun 15 2005 09:25 PM
. * * Area South of Cuba rmbjoe1954   Wed Jun 15 2005 07:13 PM
. * * Re: GFS 108 hrs MikeG   Wed Jun 15 2005 07:29 PM
. * * Re: Recon on Thursday wxman007   Wed Jun 15 2005 03:34 PM
. * * Re:GFS GuppieGrouper   Tue Jun 14 2005 01:26 AM
. * * Re:GFS Katie   Tue Jun 14 2005 01:22 PM
. * * Re:GFS Wingman51   Tue Jun 14 2005 01:46 PM
. * * Re:GFS Jekyhe904   Tue Jun 14 2005 02:54 PM
. * * Re:GFS Heather   Tue Jun 14 2005 01:33 AM
. * * Re:GFS danielwAdministrator   Tue Jun 14 2005 01:39 AM
. * * 92L HanKFranK   Tue Jun 14 2005 02:08 AM
. * * Re: 92L Rabbit   Tue Jun 14 2005 05:28 AM
. * * My take on 92L and other features Bloodstar   Tue Jun 14 2005 06:35 AM
. * * Re:GFS Domino   Tue Jun 14 2005 01:58 AM
. * * Re: Recon LI Phil   Mon Jun 13 2005 10:15 PM
. * * Re: Recon Clark   Tue Jun 14 2005 04:26 AM
. * * Re: Recon Storm Cooper   Mon Jun 13 2005 10:12 PM
. * * Re: Recon Rabbit   Mon Jun 13 2005 09:57 PM
. * * Re: New Areas to Watch Past Arlene ftlaudbob   Mon Jun 13 2005 05:00 PM
. * * Re: New Areas to Watch Past Arlene vmibran   Tue Jun 14 2005 02:15 PM
. * * Re: BOC MapMaster   Tue Jun 14 2005 04:53 PM
. * * Re: BOC Clark   Tue Jun 14 2005 05:46 PM
. * * Re: BOC rmbjoe1954   Tue Jun 14 2005 07:12 PM
. * * Re: BOC *DELETED* Storm Cooper   Tue Jun 14 2005 09:25 PM
. * * Re: BOC Mapmaster   Tue Jun 14 2005 09:35 PM
. * * Re: BOC Storm Cooper   Tue Jun 14 2005 09:37 PM
. * * Re: BOC Rabbit   Tue Jun 14 2005 10:24 PM
. * * Re: BOC Keith234   Tue Jun 14 2005 11:43 PM
. * * La Nina rmbjoe1954   Tue Jun 14 2005 11:19 PM
. * * Re: BOC Benjamin   Tue Jun 14 2005 05:16 PM
. * * Re: BOC Katie   Tue Jun 14 2005 05:22 PM
. * * Re: BOC Tazmanian93   Tue Jun 14 2005 06:12 PM
. * * Re: BOC Katie   Tue Jun 14 2005 07:09 PM
. * * Re: New Areas to Watch Past Arlene Beaujolais   Mon Jun 13 2005 03:00 PM
. * * Re: New Areas to Watch Past Arlene rmbjoe1954   Mon Jun 13 2005 02:46 PM
. * * Re: New Areas to Watch Past Arlene FlaMommy   Mon Jun 13 2005 02:50 PM
. * * Re: New Areas to Watch Past Arlene AgentB   Mon Jun 13 2005 02:39 PM
. * * Re: Channel Surfer Liz   Mon Jun 13 2005 02:20 PM
. * * Re: New Areas to Watch Past Arlene Tazmanian93   Mon Jun 13 2005 01:16 PM
. * * Re: New Areas to Watch Past Arlene Shalafi   Mon Jun 13 2005 01:14 PM
. * * Re: New Areas to Watch Past Arlene HanKFranK   Mon Jun 13 2005 05:06 AM
. * * Re: New Areas to Watch Past Arlene Rich B   Mon Jun 13 2005 10:06 AM

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