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92L now up to a 60% chance for development. Recon out there but just under the threshhold for classification, may become a TD later today.
Days since last H. Landfall - US: Any 296 (Idalia) , Major: 296 (Idalia) Florida - Any: 296 (Idalia) Major: 296 (Idalia)
 


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My take on 92L and other features
      Tue Jun 14 2005 02:35 AM

(Standard disclaimer, IANAM... yadda yadda)

Well, at the moment it looks like there are 2 interesting features on the board. The first, most obviously is 92L. There is good mid level turning that remains noticable even in the night time hours, but there is still no evidence of a LLC. Also of interest, it looks like over the last few hours , a piece of energy broke away from the circulation and went racing off to the north east. The center seems to be moving to the eastand away from the shear that's currently giving it fits. It looked like an outflow boundry happened about midnight Zulu. and the north western complex seemed to die down a bit. The piece of energy that was ejected appears like it's going to miss Haiti and head into the Atlantic. from there who knows?

The remaining convection is struggling a bit at this point, partially from shear, partially from the night time convection, however enough is hanging in there to make things interesting in the morning. it's possible there is some sort of LLC around 15.5 N 75W, but I'm hesitant to say so, simply because there is no way to know until a plane can get into the thunderboomers. I'd say there's no way they'd find a depression tomorrow.

An interesting point was made that a possible LLC was forming around 15N 77W, or just to the east and south of the storms. again, this is all little more than speculation on my part, reading those tea leaves so to speak.

Now, is it possible the ejected thunderstorm complex could hold together, and make something in the atlantic? I suppose, but... just seems so... unusual.

Now the pretty pretty wave that just came off of africa, the only thing that is keeping me from absolutely discounting it, most of the energy is south of 10N, which by itself means that most likely it's too close to the equator to form into anything, but it has a better shot down there than north where shear and cold water would kill it (in the east atlantic, anything north of 14N is in sub 25 dec C water). So, it's extremely unlikely, but not a bad one to peek and go, oooh, in a month we'll really start worrying about these suckers.

Collectively, I'd say there's about a 1 in 3 shot that something will form from one of these systems, the odds that 2 out of the 3 turn into something tropical or sub tropical is about 100 to 1, and all 3? Sorry, vegas doesn't give odds like large.

-Mark

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* New Areas to Watch Past Arlene MikeCAdministrator Tue Jun 14 2005 02:35 AM
. * * Re: New Areas to Watch Past Arlene KN4LF   Mon Jun 13 2005 06:31 PM
. * * Models Jamiewx   Mon Jun 13 2005 07:10 PM
. * * Re: New Areas to Watch Past Arlene SkeetoBiteAdministrator   Mon Jun 13 2005 08:42 AM
. * * Re: New Areas to Watch Past Arlene Bloodstar   Mon Jun 13 2005 01:53 PM
. * * Re: New Areas to Watch Past Arlene Ricreig   Mon Jun 13 2005 11:49 AM
. * * Re: New Areas to Watch Past Arlene javlin   Mon Jun 13 2005 12:17 PM
. * * Re: New Areas to Watch Past Arlene Artsy Fartsy   Mon Jun 13 2005 12:35 PM
. * * Re: New Areas to Watch Past Arlene Tazmanian93   Mon Jun 13 2005 01:01 PM
. * * Re: New Areas to Watch Past Arlene Bloodstar   Mon Jun 13 2005 01:58 PM
. * * Re: New Areas to Watch Past Arlene rmbjoe1954   Mon Jun 13 2005 02:03 PM
. * * Re: New Areas to Watch Past Arlene Katie   Mon Jun 13 2005 01:27 PM
. * * Re: Birthday Tazmanian93   Mon Jun 13 2005 02:15 PM
. * * Re: Birthday Katie   Mon Jun 13 2005 04:28 PM
. * * Re: Birthday Tazmanian93   Mon Jun 13 2005 10:04 PM
. * * Recon Jamiewx   Mon Jun 13 2005 05:23 PM
. * * Re: Recon Storm Cooper   Mon Jun 13 2005 05:25 PM
. * * Re: Recon Clark   Mon Jun 13 2005 06:05 PM
. * * Re:GFS danielwAdministrator   Mon Jun 13 2005 07:27 PM
. * * too early... AMK   Tue Jun 14 2005 12:19 AM
. * * Re:GFS dem05   Mon Jun 13 2005 09:07 PM
. * * Re:GFS danielwAdministrator   Mon Jun 13 2005 09:27 PM
. * * Re:GFS Jamiewx   Mon Jun 13 2005 09:14 PM
. * * 92L Jamiewx   Tue Jun 14 2005 08:53 PM
. * * 92L... la nina? HanKFranK   Tue Jun 14 2005 11:17 PM
. * * Re: 92L HURRICANESRULE   Tue Jun 14 2005 09:57 PM
. * * Re: 92L Clark   Tue Jun 14 2005 10:29 PM
. * * Re: 92L LI Phil   Tue Jun 14 2005 10:37 PM
. * * Re: 92L Clark   Wed Jun 15 2005 12:36 AM
. * * Possible Low Cocoa Beach   Wed Jun 15 2005 07:27 AM
. * * Re: Possible Low Ed in Va   Wed Jun 15 2005 09:40 AM
. * * Recon on Thursday wxman007   Wed Jun 15 2005 11:27 AM
. * * Re: Recon on Thursday rmbjoe1954   Wed Jun 15 2005 11:36 AM
. * * Re: Recon on Thursday wxman007   Wed Jun 15 2005 11:58 AM
. * * Re: Recon on Thursday Liz   Wed Jun 15 2005 11:34 AM
. * * Re: Recon on Thursday LI Phil   Wed Jun 15 2005 11:31 AM
. * * 93L for BOC Cycloneye11   Wed Jun 15 2005 12:07 PM
. * * Re: 93L for BOC LI Phil   Wed Jun 15 2005 12:17 PM
. * * Heat Katie   Wed Jun 15 2005 02:13 PM
. * * 93L Jamiewx   Wed Jun 15 2005 02:17 PM
. * * Re: 93L Hurricane Fredrick 1979   Wed Jun 15 2005 03:44 PM
. * * Models out for 93L Jamiewx   Wed Jun 15 2005 04:38 PM
. * * Re: Models out for 93L Clark   Wed Jun 15 2005 05:48 PM
. * * Re: Models out for 93L Cycloneye11   Wed Jun 15 2005 06:21 PM
. * * 92L, 93L HanKFranK   Wed Jun 15 2005 07:33 PM
. * * Re: Wet S Fla weekend Tropics Guy   Wed Jun 15 2005 08:45 PM
. * * Re: Wet S Fla weekend Lar   Wed Jun 15 2005 10:50 PM
. * * Re: Wet S Fla weekend BillD   Wed Jun 15 2005 11:11 PM
. * * Re: Wet S Fla weekend GuppieGrouper   Thu Jun 16 2005 06:38 AM
. * * Re: Wet S Fla weekend LONNY307   Thu Jun 16 2005 07:45 AM
. * * Re: Wet S Fla weekend hurricane54   Thu Jun 16 2005 09:35 AM
. * * Re: Wet S Fla weekend Rich B   Thu Jun 16 2005 09:43 AM
. * * No recon for BOC Cycloneye11   Thu Jun 16 2005 11:01 AM
. * * Bret in the works, and.... MapMaster   Thu Jun 16 2005 12:25 PM
. * * Re: Bret in the works, and.... B.C.Francis   Thu Jun 16 2005 12:54 PM
. * * Re: Bret in the works, and.... rmbjoe1954   Thu Jun 16 2005 01:38 PM
. * * 2 PM EDT Tropical Wx Discussion danielwAdministrator   Thu Jun 16 2005 01:58 PM
. * * Re: Bret MapMaster   Thu Jun 16 2005 04:14 PM
. * * Re: Bret Clark   Thu Jun 16 2005 04:42 PM
. * * Re: Bret MapMaster   Thu Jun 16 2005 05:25 PM
. * * Re: Bret Clark   Thu Jun 16 2005 06:11 PM
. * * Re: Bret LI Phil   Thu Jun 16 2005 06:21 PM
. * * Re: Bret Clark   Thu Jun 16 2005 08:24 PM
. * * say what HanKFranK   Fri Jun 17 2005 12:00 AM
. * * NW caribbean, Again rmbjoe1954   Fri Jun 17 2005 12:17 PM
. * * Re: NW caribbean, Again Clark   Fri Jun 17 2005 01:37 PM
. * * assembly HanKFranK   Fri Jun 17 2005 02:31 PM
. * * 93L Invest mysticalmooons   Fri Jun 17 2005 04:07 PM
. * * Re: 93L Invest LI Phil   Sat Jun 18 2005 02:09 PM
. * * Re: 93L Invest BillD   Sat Jun 18 2005 09:17 PM
. * * Re: 93L Invest Storm Cooper   Sat Jun 18 2005 09:24 PM
. * * Re: 93L Invest Clark   Fri Jun 17 2005 04:58 PM
. * * Re: Bret Hurricane Fredrick 1979   Thu Jun 16 2005 06:53 PM
. * * Re: Bret Hurricane Fredrick 1979   Thu Jun 16 2005 07:47 PM
. * * Re: Bret Jamiewx   Thu Jun 16 2005 05:38 PM
. * * Re: Bret MapMaster   Thu Jun 16 2005 05:07 PM
. * * Re: Bret Hurricane Fredrick 1979   Thu Jun 16 2005 04:33 PM
. * * Re: Bret Jamiewx   Thu Jun 16 2005 04:37 PM
. * * Re: Bret Hurricane Fredrick 1979   Thu Jun 16 2005 05:56 PM
. * * Re: Bret Mapmaster   Thu Jun 16 2005 04:40 PM
. * * Re: Bret Jamiewx   Thu Jun 16 2005 04:24 PM
. * * Re: Models out for 93L Hurricane Fredrick 1979   Wed Jun 15 2005 05:25 PM
. * * Area South of Cuba rmbjoe1954   Wed Jun 15 2005 03:13 PM
. * * Re: GFS 108 hrs MikeG   Wed Jun 15 2005 03:29 PM
. * * Re: Recon on Thursday wxman007   Wed Jun 15 2005 11:34 AM
. * * Re:GFS GuppieGrouper   Mon Jun 13 2005 09:26 PM
. * * Re:GFS Katie   Tue Jun 14 2005 09:22 AM
. * * Re:GFS Wingman51   Tue Jun 14 2005 09:46 AM
. * * Re:GFS Jekyhe904   Tue Jun 14 2005 10:54 AM
. * * Re:GFS Heather   Mon Jun 13 2005 09:33 PM
. * * Re:GFS danielwAdministrator   Mon Jun 13 2005 09:39 PM
. * * 92L HanKFranK   Mon Jun 13 2005 10:08 PM
. * * Re: 92L Rabbit   Tue Jun 14 2005 01:28 AM
. * * My take on 92L and other features Bloodstar   Tue Jun 14 2005 02:35 AM
. * * Re:GFS Domino   Mon Jun 13 2005 09:58 PM
. * * Re: Recon LI Phil   Mon Jun 13 2005 06:15 PM
. * * Re: Recon Clark   Tue Jun 14 2005 12:26 AM
. * * Re: Recon Storm Cooper   Mon Jun 13 2005 06:12 PM
. * * Re: Recon Rabbit   Mon Jun 13 2005 05:57 PM
. * * Re: New Areas to Watch Past Arlene ftlaudbob   Mon Jun 13 2005 01:00 PM
. * * Re: New Areas to Watch Past Arlene vmibran   Tue Jun 14 2005 10:15 AM
. * * Re: BOC MapMaster   Tue Jun 14 2005 12:53 PM
. * * Re: BOC Clark   Tue Jun 14 2005 01:46 PM
. * * Re: BOC rmbjoe1954   Tue Jun 14 2005 03:12 PM
. * * Re: BOC *DELETED* Storm Cooper   Tue Jun 14 2005 05:25 PM
. * * Re: BOC Mapmaster   Tue Jun 14 2005 05:35 PM
. * * Re: BOC Storm Cooper   Tue Jun 14 2005 05:37 PM
. * * Re: BOC Rabbit   Tue Jun 14 2005 06:24 PM
. * * Re: BOC Keith234   Tue Jun 14 2005 07:43 PM
. * * La Nina rmbjoe1954   Tue Jun 14 2005 07:19 PM
. * * Re: BOC Benjamin   Tue Jun 14 2005 01:16 PM
. * * Re: BOC Katie   Tue Jun 14 2005 01:22 PM
. * * Re: BOC Tazmanian93   Tue Jun 14 2005 02:12 PM
. * * Re: BOC Katie   Tue Jun 14 2005 03:09 PM
. * * Re: New Areas to Watch Past Arlene Beaujolais   Mon Jun 13 2005 11:00 AM
. * * Re: New Areas to Watch Past Arlene rmbjoe1954   Mon Jun 13 2005 10:46 AM
. * * Re: New Areas to Watch Past Arlene FlaMommy   Mon Jun 13 2005 10:50 AM
. * * Re: New Areas to Watch Past Arlene AgentB   Mon Jun 13 2005 10:39 AM
. * * Re: Channel Surfer Liz   Mon Jun 13 2005 10:20 AM
. * * Re: New Areas to Watch Past Arlene Tazmanian93   Mon Jun 13 2005 09:16 AM
. * * Re: New Areas to Watch Past Arlene Shalafi   Mon Jun 13 2005 09:14 AM
. * * Re: New Areas to Watch Past Arlene HanKFranK   Mon Jun 13 2005 01:06 AM
. * * Re: New Areas to Watch Past Arlene Rich B   Mon Jun 13 2005 06:06 AM

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