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Newly tagged Invest 91L in the Central American Gyre heading towards MX/TX, a slow and sprawling flood threat. Bahamas hybrid well E of FL 10%/30% odd and expected to track back to the W across FL or SE US this week.
Days since last H. Landfall - US: Any 292 (Idalia) , Major: 292 (Idalia) Florida - Any: 292 (Idalia) Major: 292 (Idalia)
 


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the izzy sandwich
      Fri Sep 20 2002 05:48 PM

that upper low developing east of florida is about as robust as the avn forecasted it to be so far, as the nhc discussion says.. but there is enough of the old upper low to the west of izzy to hold it between the two for now. for now. now the question is, which lets go first. avn upper low maxes out by 48hr and is deteriorating into a trough.. note that avn also develops a system (probably fake) over the bahamas and sends it north next week. in the meanwhile it has also had the upper system over the BOC let go of izzy as well.. izzy is actually sort of moving wsw in tandem with it. that i dont buy. basically i think the small upper low to the west keeps enough push on isidore so that the storm slowly trudges wnw.. maybe stopping to bob around and loop, maybe even doing the cyclonic loop nogaps and gfdl have envisioned at times. by then the upper low to the east has decayed and isidore is basically just going to wait until a shortwave grabs hold. there are two that i think can do it.. the one that is going by obviously didnt get the storm.. but another is down tapping isidore by sunday.. this would bring the storm up for a tue/wed strike. i think that isidore will at least respond weakly to this shortwave. next one comes down thursday or so.. more energetic. even on the avn runs, with isidore down in the boc, the storm responds to this shortwave. i dont see this one not turning isidore up for a fri-sun next week strike, if the sun/mon one doesnt. so basically.. thats what ive got. goofy erratic motion prior to recurvature.. but still leaning on recurvature and not the mexican solution.
going to leave my strike zone on the panhandle, but extend it a little west as far as biloxi. think that florida below cedar key really is in the clear. fairly certain.
interesting that if isidore hadnt first tried running south america we would be dealing with a landfaller in florida around now. what a difference that made.
i'll take a moment to address the other atlantic features:
bastardi's little coast runner isnt what the avn wants to make down near cuba.. more likely is going to evolve west of the bahamas this weekend and be near hatteras monday. it will be a weak or formative system, nothing too impressive.
probably going to have kyle wandering east of bermuda before the weekend is out, as well. 91L looks fairly healthy.
i was probably too harsh on the wave near 40-45w. there is ridging building ahead, still fairly weak.. and it is fairly close to the itcz. this could be an invest in a couple of days... maybe something for cycloneye to ooh and ahh about. this might have its ridging build westward with it to a point.
wonder how far down the name list we'll be by the beginning of october? about two weeks ago, remember bastardi mentioning how the ridging in the east should be broken around the middle of october.. and was thinking some kind of caribbean system could threaten around that possible time of extremes.. since he usually starts on things a couple weeks before they happen.. maybe i'll get to read about it before his site becomes pay.
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* Mexico to Miami Needs To Watch MikeCAdministrator Fri Sep 20 2002 05:48 PM
. * * Interesting week ahead. SirCane   Fri Sep 20 2002 09:53 PM
. * * Re: Mexico to Miami Needs To Watch Anonymous   Fri Sep 20 2002 08:49 PM
. * * STD #12 forms... Anonymous   Fri Sep 20 2002 08:54 PM
. * * Re: Mexico to Miami Needs To Watch Anonymous   Fri Sep 20 2002 07:50 PM
. * * Re: Mexico to Miami Needs To Watch wxman007   Fri Sep 20 2002 07:52 PM
. * * Isidore-an EXTREMELY tough call. And other tropical issues Kevin   Fri Sep 20 2002 07:36 PM
. * * Seems straight forward Rasvar   Fri Sep 20 2002 09:02 PM
. * * Re: Mexico to Miami Needs To Watch Anonymous   Fri Sep 20 2002 07:28 PM
. * * Re: Mexico to Miami Needs To Watch cyclone_head   Fri Sep 20 2002 08:00 PM
. * * well... Brett   Fri Sep 20 2002 08:16 PM
. * * Re: Mexico to Miami Needs To Watch scottsvb   Fri Sep 20 2002 07:36 PM
. * * 12 is out there Anonymous   Fri Sep 20 2002 07:42 PM
. * * Re: Mexico to Miami Needs To Watch wxman007   Fri Sep 20 2002 07:41 PM
. * * Today's Extended Prog Discussion... wxman007   Fri Sep 20 2002 07:51 PM
. * * Re: Today's Extended Prog Discussion... anonomyous   Fri Sep 20 2002 08:24 PM
. * * Re: Today's Extended Prog Discussion... wxman007   Fri Sep 20 2002 08:31 PM
. * * well Brett   Fri Sep 20 2002 08:46 PM
. * * EEK! Colleen A.   Fri Sep 20 2002 08:53 PM
. * * Re: Mexico to Miami Needs To Watch Anonymous   Fri Sep 20 2002 07:01 PM
. * * LOOPY MODELS - IS IT SUCH A SURPRISE IN THE GULF` OrlandoDude   Fri Sep 20 2002 07:15 PM
. * * Human Forecasts and thoughts, for a change... wxman007   Fri Sep 20 2002 07:25 PM
. * * Re: Mexico to Miami Needs To Watch Anonymous   Fri Sep 20 2002 06:51 PM
. * * Havana Radar Loop Anonymous   Fri Sep 20 2002 06:48 PM
. * * While Izzy decides his next move Kyle and Lili are in the horizon Cycloneye   Fri Sep 20 2002 05:31 PM
. * * Re: While Izzy decides his next move Kyle and Lili are in the horizon Anonymous   Fri Sep 20 2002 06:46 PM
. * * Re: While Izzy decides his next move Kyle and Lili are in the horizon Anonymous   Fri Sep 20 2002 05:47 PM
. * * Re: While Izzy decides his next move Kyle and Lili are in the horizon Anonymous   Fri Sep 20 2002 06:09 PM
. * * Re: While Izzy decides his next move Kyle and Lili are in the horizon scottsvb   Fri Sep 20 2002 06:53 PM
. * * Re: While Izzy decides his next move Kyle and Lili are in the horizon scottsvb   Fri Sep 20 2002 07:00 PM
. * * Crossing Cuba Anonymous   Fri Sep 20 2002 06:16 PM
. * * Re: Crossing Cuba in less than an hour with cuban coffee Anonymous   Fri Sep 20 2002 06:18 PM
. * * Re: Mexico to Miami Needs To Watch Kimmie at work   Fri Sep 20 2002 05:22 PM
. * * the izzy sandwich HanKFranK   Fri Sep 20 2002 05:48 PM
. * * A note on the WSW movement... Steve   Fri Sep 20 2002 06:24 PM
. * * Re: A note on the possible WSW movement... Steve   Fri Sep 20 2002 06:31 PM
. * * Question???????? Anonymous   Fri Sep 20 2002 06:45 PM
. * * Re: the izzy sandwich Joe   Fri Sep 20 2002 05:59 PM
. * * radar Brett   Fri Sep 20 2002 06:04 PM
. * * Re: radar Anonymous   Fri Sep 20 2002 06:09 PM
. * * Re: Mexico to Miami Needs To Watch Steve   Fri Sep 20 2002 05:34 PM
. * * Re: Mexico to Miami Needs To Watch Brett   Fri Sep 20 2002 05:50 PM

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