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Gulf area up to 60% chance for weak development. A new Atlantic system is now up with a 20% chance for development, FL east coast and GA coast should watch for mid-late this week.
Days since last H. Landfall - US: Any 291 (Idalia) , Major: 291 (Idalia) Florida - Any: 291 (Idalia) Major: 291 (Idalia)
 


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wxman007
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      Sat Sep 21 2002 03:05 AM

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WTNT45 KNHC 210242
TCDAT5
HURRICANE ISIDORE DISCUSSION NUMBER 20
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE MIAMI FL
11 PM EDT FRI SEP 20 2002

ISIDORE SLOWED DOWN DURING THE PAST FEW HOURS AS IT WAS CROSSING THE
WESTERN PORTION OF CUBA. THE EYE WAS OBSERVED BY RADARS FROM HAVANA
..LA BAJADA CUBA...AND KEY WEST. A RECONNAISSANCE PLANE ESTIMATED
A MINIMUM PRESURE OF 964 MB JUST PRIOR TO LANDFALL. THE EYE IS NOW
MOVING OVER THE SOUTHEASTERN GULF OF MEXICO BUT MOST OF THE
CIRCULATION AND RAINBANDS ARE EXPECTED TO AFFECT CUBA FOR SEVERAL
MORE HOURS. AN AIR FORCE PLANE WILL BE IN TROPICAL CYCLONE AROUND
06 UTC AND WILL DETERMINE IF ISIDORE LOST STRENGTH ON ITS LONG TREK
OVER WESTERN CUBA. THE CLOUD PATTERN REMAINS WELL ORGANIZED WITH AN
IMPRESSIVE OUTFLOW AND NUMEROUS CONVECTIVE BANDS. DVORAK T-NUMBERS
SUGGEST WINDS BETWEEN 90 AND 100 KNOTS. HOWEVER...INITIAL INTENSITY
IS KEPT AT 85 KNOTS SINCE THE EYE HAS BEEN MOVING OVER LAND FOR
SEVERAL HOURS. MOST OF THE GLOBAL MODELS CONTINUE TO FORECAST AN
IDEAL UPPER-LEVEL WIND ENVIRONMENT. THEREFORE...ISIDORE IS FORECAST
TO BECOME A MAJOR HURRICANE IN THE GULF OF MEXICO.

MODELS ARE IN MUCH BETTER AGREEMENT TONIGHT. MOST OF THEM SHOW A
SLOW WEST OR WEST-SOUTHWEST MOVING HURRICANE ALONG AND NOT FAR FROM
THE NORTHERN PORTION OF THE YUCATAN PENINSULA FOR THE NEXT 3 DAYS.
THIS IS THE EASIEST PART OF THE FORECAST. THEREAFTER...I SEE TROUBLE
ON THE HORIZON. THE NCEP GLOBAL MODEL...WHICH PREVIOUSLY KEPT
ISIDORE TRAPPED IN THE BAY OF CAMPECHE IS NOW TURNING THE HURRICANE
NORTHWARD. NOGAPS AND THE GFDL ARE ALSO FORECASTING THE NORTHWARD
TURN BUT A LITTLE BIT SOONER. THE UK HAS BECOME THE ONLY MODEL THAT
MOVES THE HURRICANE WESTWARD TOWARD MEXICO. THIS NORTHWARD TURN IS
EXPECTED TO OCCUR WHEN THE STRONG MID-LEVEL LOW CURRENTLY OVER THE
BAHAMAS BECOMES REPLACED BY A STRONG SUBTROPICAL RIDGE. THERE IS
CONSENSUS AMONG MODELS IN THIS PATTERN CHANGE AND IN THE NORTHWARD
TURN OF THE HURRICANE BUT THEY DIFFER IN THE TIMING.

FORECASTER AVILA

FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS

INITIAL 21/0300Z 22.4N 84.6W 85 KTS
12HR VT 21/1200Z 22.9N 85.4W 90 KTS
24HR VT 22/0000Z 23.0N 87.0W 100 KTS
36HR VT 22/1200Z 22.5N 88.0W 105 KTS
48HR VT 23/0000Z 22.5N 89.0W 110 KTS
72HR VT 24/0000Z 22.5N 90.0W 115 KTS


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* Subtropical Depression 12 and Isidore MikeCAdministrator Sat Sep 21 2002 03:05 AM
. * * My own personal cat 5 Domino   Sat Sep 21 2002 08:43 AM
. * * Re: My own personal cat 5 Rick   Sat Sep 21 2002 01:24 PM
. * * Re: My own personal cat 5 Frank P   Sat Sep 21 2002 01:46 PM
. * * Re: My own personal cat 5 Rick   Sat Sep 21 2002 03:10 PM
. * * Re: My own personal cat 5 Justin in Miami   Sat Sep 21 2002 03:34 PM
. * * Re: My own personal cat 5 Kimster   Sat Sep 21 2002 02:45 PM
. * * Re: My own personal cat 5 joepub1   Sat Sep 21 2002 02:55 PM
. * * Re: My own personal cat 5 wxman007   Sat Sep 21 2002 02:53 PM
. * * Re: My own personal cat 5 joepub1   Sat Sep 21 2002 02:13 PM
. * * Hey Derek... Steve   Sat Sep 21 2002 01:35 PM
. * * Izzy headed south of due west? Rich B   Sat Sep 21 2002 09:54 AM
. * * Re: Izzy headed south of due west? Anonymous   Sat Sep 21 2002 11:26 AM
. * * Re: Izzy headed south of due west? Kevin   Sat Sep 21 2002 12:37 PM
. * * Re: Izzy headed south of due west? 57497479   Sat Sep 21 2002 12:54 PM
. * * Surprise! a 5 hour night... Steve   Sat Sep 21 2002 01:13 PM
. * * Re: Surprise! a 5 hour night... 57497479   Sat Sep 21 2002 01:24 PM
. * * Re: Surprise! a 5 hour night... Frank P   Sat Sep 21 2002 01:23 PM
. * * Re: Izzy headed south of due west? 57497479   Sat Sep 21 2002 01:09 PM
. * * Re: Izzy headed south of due west? Kimster   Sat Sep 21 2002 02:19 PM
. * * Re: Izzy headed south of due west? Anonymous   Sat Sep 21 2002 03:18 PM
. * * Re: Izzy headed south of due west? Kimster   Sat Sep 21 2002 04:29 PM
. * * Re: Izzy headed south of due west? Kimster   Sat Sep 21 2002 04:27 PM
. * * Re: Izzy headed south of due west? Anonymous   Sat Sep 21 2002 03:23 PM
. * * Media=Nuts Kevin   Sat Sep 21 2002 02:51 PM
. * * Re: Izzy headed south of due west? OrlandoDude   Sat Sep 21 2002 02:17 PM
. * * Re: Izzy headed south of due west? Kevin   Sat Sep 21 2002 01:07 PM
. * * Re: Izzy headed south of due west? 57497479   Sat Sep 21 2002 01:16 PM
. * * Re: Izzy headed south of due west? clyde w.   Sat Sep 21 2002 12:48 PM
. * * Re: Izzy headed south of due west? clyde w.   Sat Sep 21 2002 12:49 PM
. * * Re: Subtropical Depression 12 and Isidore Anonymous   Sat Sep 21 2002 07:52 AM
. * * Re: Subtropical Depression 12 and Isidore troy2   Sat Sep 21 2002 04:33 AM
. * * Re: Subtropical Depression 12 and Isidore Anonymous   Sat Sep 21 2002 03:36 AM
. * * Re: Subtropical Depression 12 and Isidore Anonymous   Sat Sep 21 2002 03:14 AM
. * * coming in jimmy99   Sat Sep 21 2002 02:24 AM
. * * Re: coming in Ricreig   Sat Sep 21 2002 02:46 AM
. * * Re: coming in FlaRebel   Sat Sep 21 2002 02:53 AM
. * * Re: Subtropical Depression 12 and Isidore Anonymous   Sat Sep 21 2002 02:16 AM
. * * Has anyone noticed.... Ricreig   Sat Sep 21 2002 01:59 AM
. * * Re: Has anyone noticed.... Anonymous   Sat Sep 21 2002 02:09 AM
. * * Re: Has anyone noticed.... Ricreig   Sat Sep 21 2002 02:12 AM
. * * Re: Has anyone noticed.... DopplerGal   Sat Sep 21 2002 02:47 AM
. * * Re: Subtropical Depression 12 and Isidore meto   Sat Sep 21 2002 01:48 AM
. * * Re: Subtropical Depression 12 and Isidore Danya   Sat Sep 21 2002 01:40 AM
. * * Re: Subtropical Depression 12 and Isidore Ricreig   Sat Sep 21 2002 01:50 AM
. * * Re:Wishcasting etc. Jeanine   Sat Sep 21 2002 02:54 AM
. * * Re:Wishcasting etc. Kimster   Sat Sep 21 2002 05:57 AM
. * * Re:Wishcasting etc. joepub1   Sat Sep 21 2002 03:46 AM
. * * Re:Wishcasting etc. Bruce   Sat Sep 21 2002 04:16 AM
. * * Re:Wishcasting etc. Bruce   Sat Sep 21 2002 04:34 AM
. * * Re:Wishcasting etc. Frank P   Sat Sep 21 2002 03:58 AM
. * * Re:Wishcasting etc. joepub1   Sat Sep 21 2002 04:12 AM
. * * Re:Wishcasting etc. Rad   Sat Sep 21 2002 04:07 AM
. * * Re:Wishcasting etc. Anonymous   Sat Sep 21 2002 04:14 AM
. * * Re:Wishcasting etc. PaulyAce2002   Sat Sep 21 2002 04:34 AM
. * * Re:Wishcasting etc. Jeanine   Sat Sep 21 2002 04:49 AM
. * * 92l troy2   Sat Sep 21 2002 04:42 AM
. * * Re:Wishcasting etc. PaulyAce2002   Sat Sep 21 2002 04:41 AM
. * * Re:Wishcasting etc. joepub1   Sat Sep 21 2002 04:31 AM
. * * Speaking of wishcasting Ricreig   Sat Sep 21 2002 04:11 AM
. * * Re: Speaking of wishcasting Frank P   Sat Sep 21 2002 04:43 AM
. * * MAJOR CANE WXMAN RICHIE   Sat Sep 21 2002 02:54 PM
. * * Re: MAJOR CANE joepub1   Sat Sep 21 2002 03:02 PM
. * * Re: MAJOR CANE (MAJOR problems) Kevin   Sat Sep 21 2002 03:16 PM
. * * Re: MAJOR CANE Southern4sure   Sat Sep 21 2002 03:19 PM
. * * Re: Info Kevin   Sat Sep 21 2002 03:27 PM
. * * And next up is... joepub1   Sat Sep 21 2002 03:42 PM
. * * Re: Info Anonymous   Sat Sep 21 2002 03:39 PM
. * * Re: MAJOR CANE Rasvar   Sat Sep 21 2002 03:15 PM
. * * Re: Speaking of wishcasting BillD   Sat Sep 21 2002 04:59 AM
. * * I'm sitting here thinking, 'damn, this is a pretty serious situation.' Steve   Sat Sep 21 2002 05:48 AM
. * * Re: Speaking of wishcasting Bruce   Sat Sep 21 2002 04:49 AM
. * * Re: Speaking of wishcasting Kimster   Sat Sep 21 2002 05:51 AM
. * * Re: Speaking of wishcasting Steve   Sat Sep 21 2002 05:52 AM
. * * 'nuther lateniter HanKFranK   Sat Sep 21 2002 06:20 AM
. * * Re: 'nuther lateniter Kimster   Sat Sep 21 2002 06:46 AM
. * * Re: 'nuther lateniter Kimmie at home   Sat Sep 21 2002 07:09 AM
. * * Re: Speaking of wishcasting jlauderdal   Sat Sep 21 2002 04:46 AM
. * * Re:Wishcasting etc. BillD   Sat Sep 21 2002 03:33 AM
. * * Re:Wishcasting etc. Floridacane   Sat Sep 21 2002 03:09 AM
. * * if it has stalled Rick in Mobile   Sat Sep 21 2002 03:01 AM
. * * Re: if it has stalled BillD   Sat Sep 21 2002 03:11 AM
. * * Re: if it has stalled Ricreig   Sat Sep 21 2002 03:17 AM
. * * Anyone got any opinions on the 11pm offical track? Steve   Sat Sep 21 2002 03:22 AM
. * * Re: if it has stalled troy2   Sat Sep 21 2002 03:22 AM
. * * Re: if it has stalled Bruce   Sat Sep 21 2002 03:33 AM
. * * Re: if it has stalled Anonymous   Sat Sep 21 2002 03:10 AM
. * * THIS WON'T BE PRETTY YA'LL Rick in Mobile   Sat Sep 21 2002 03:09 AM
. * * Re: if it has stalled troy2   Sat Sep 21 2002 03:07 AM
. * * Discussion... wxman007   Sat Sep 21 2002 03:05 AM
. * * Re: Discussion... Ricreig   Sat Sep 21 2002 03:24 AM
. * * Re: Discussion... wxman007   Sat Sep 21 2002 03:37 AM
. * * Next 72 hours are very clear... Kevin   Sat Sep 21 2002 03:30 AM
. * * Re: Discussion... joepub1   Sat Sep 21 2002 03:23 AM
. * * Re: Discussion...(hmmm...) Kevin   Sat Sep 21 2002 03:19 AM
. * * Re: Discussion...(hmmm...) clyde w.   Sat Sep 21 2002 03:29 AM
. * * Re: Discussion... DopplerGal   Sat Sep 21 2002 03:09 AM
. * * New Orleans Met Frank P   Sat Sep 21 2002 03:29 AM
. * * Re:Wishcasting etc. Bruce   Sat Sep 21 2002 03:01 AM
. * * Re:Wishcasting etc. Ricreig   Sat Sep 21 2002 02:59 AM
. * * Re: Subtropical Depression 12 and Isidore Danya   Sat Sep 21 2002 01:59 AM
. * * Re: Subtropical Depression 12 and Isidore Ricreig   Sat Sep 21 2002 02:08 AM
. * * Re: Subtropical Depression 12 and Isidore meto   Sat Sep 21 2002 12:23 AM
. * * Re: Subtropical Depression 12 and Isidore Londovir   Sat Sep 21 2002 12:32 AM
. * * Cancun Radar greg-kfdmtv   Sat Sep 21 2002 12:46 AM
. * * Re: Subtropical Depression 12 and Isidore meto   Sat Sep 21 2002 12:16 AM
. * * Re: Subtropical Depression 12 and Isidore Anonymous   Sat Sep 21 2002 12:50 AM
. * * Re: Wishcasters and Andrew BillD   Sat Sep 21 2002 01:29 AM
. * * Re: Subtropical Depression 12 and Isidore Ricreig   Sat Sep 21 2002 01:16 AM
. * * Re: Subtropical Depression 12 and Isidore MikeCAdministrator   Sat Sep 21 2002 01:21 AM
. * * Re: Subtropical Depression 12 and Isidore joepub1   Sat Sep 21 2002 01:37 AM
. * * Re: Subtropical Depression 12 and Isidore joepub1   Sat Sep 21 2002 01:08 AM
. * * It's delicious... Steve   Sat Sep 21 2002 12:47 AM
. * * Re: Subtropical Depression 12 and Isidore meto   Sat Sep 21 2002 12:12 AM
. * * Re: Subtropical Depression 12 and Isidore meto   Sat Sep 21 2002 12:01 AM
. * * Re: Subtropical Depression 12 and Isidore Jeanine   Sat Sep 21 2002 12:05 AM
. * * Re: Subtropical Depression 12 and Isidore BillD   Sat Sep 21 2002 12:20 AM
. * * Re: Subtropical Depression 12 and Isidore VolusiaMike   Sat Sep 21 2002 12:03 AM
. * * meto - find me a north movement in the shortwave and you can mail me a hat for desert Steve   Sat Sep 21 2002 12:03 AM
. * * Re: Subtropical Depression 12 and Isidore J.J.   Fri Sep 20 2002 11:49 PM
. * * Re: Subtropical Depression 12 and Isidore meto   Fri Sep 20 2002 11:47 PM
. * * Wishcasting for Indiana... Domino   Fri Sep 20 2002 10:38 PM
. * * Re: Wishcasting for Indiana... Mike   Fri Sep 20 2002 11:40 PM
. * * Re: Wishcasting for Indiana... MikeCAdministrator   Fri Sep 20 2002 11:28 PM
. * * 18Z AVN greg-kfdmtv   Fri Sep 20 2002 11:32 PM
. * * Greg ShawnS   Fri Sep 20 2002 11:35 PM
. * * 18Z Landfall greg-kfdmtv   Fri Sep 20 2002 11:41 PM
. * * Re: 18Z Landfall ShawnS   Fri Sep 20 2002 11:47 PM
. * * Re: 18Z Landfall Anonymous   Fri Sep 20 2002 11:44 PM
. * * Wave east of the islands is my concern Cycloneye   Fri Sep 20 2002 10:53 PM
. * * Re: Wave east of the islands is my concern Kevin   Fri Sep 20 2002 11:16 PM
. * * Re: Wave east of the islands is my concern troy2   Fri Sep 20 2002 11:13 PM
. * * Re: Subtropical Depression 12 and Isidore Anonymous   Fri Sep 20 2002 10:35 PM
. * * Re: Subtropical Depression 12 and Isidore meto   Fri Sep 20 2002 09:58 PM
. * * Re: Subtropical Depression 12 and Isidore BillD   Fri Sep 20 2002 11:45 PM
. * * AVN website greg-kfdmtv   Fri Sep 20 2002 11:49 PM
. * * Isidore's future... J.J.   Fri Sep 20 2002 09:34 PM
. * * Re: Isidore's future... Anonymous   Fri Sep 20 2002 09:40 PM
. * * Re: Isidore's future... Anonymous   Fri Sep 20 2002 10:13 PM
. * * Re: Subtropical Depression 12 and Isidore Rasvar   Fri Sep 20 2002 09:21 PM
. * * Re: Subtropical Depression 12 and Isidore Anonymous   Fri Sep 20 2002 09:26 PM
. * * Re: Isidore's 72 hour speed (directed to anonymous poster) Kevin   Fri Sep 20 2002 09:42 PM
. * * Re: Isidore's 72 hour speed (directed to anonymous poster) wxman007   Fri Sep 20 2002 09:51 PM
. * * Re: Isidore's 72 hour speed (directed to anonymous poster) Kevin   Fri Sep 20 2002 09:55 PM
. * * Re: Isidore's 72 hour speed (directed to anonymous poster) Anonymous   Fri Sep 20 2002 09:54 PM
. * * Re: Isidore's 72 hour speed (directed to anonymous poster) wxman007   Fri Sep 20 2002 10:05 PM
. * * Re: Isidore's 72 hour speed (directed to anonymous poster) Anonymous   Fri Sep 20 2002 09:49 PM
. * * Re: Subtropical Depression 12 and Isidore Kevin   Fri Sep 20 2002 09:13 PM

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