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News Talkback >> 2002 News Articles and Talkback

Kevin
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Re: Izzy headed south of due west?
      Sat Sep 21 2002 08:37 AM

Good morning,
Isidore shouldn't really make a Yucatan Peninsula landfall. I believe the eye should stay north of it, but the southern quad will raise hell along the northern Yucatan Coast. In the even a Yucatan landfall does occur (not likely), Isidore would re-itensify anyways. Yucatan Peninsula is a very flat piece of land, most storms that do go across usually make it.

Thoughts on Isidore: WNW and eventually W through 36 hours, perhaps a slight WSW movement after that. From 48-72 hours I expect a very slow W and WNW movement to continue. After that, late on Monday or Tuesday the next longwave/trough should grab Isidore and send him N and NE. I'm still sticking with a landfall anywhere from Pensacola to Cedar Key. Isidore will probably remain a major hurricane the whole time.

Other tropical stuff: Subtrop. storm Kyle looks okay this morning. NHC says SW turn eventually, but Kyle is so far out another trough is bound to pick him up and shove him NE.

92L looks very concentrated this morning...and I expect a depression today or tomorrow. This one should continue W and WNW through 72 hours. I don't think this will be a hurricane until it is near the islands, after that intensification could be much more explosive. There is a possibility of a SE US/Bahamas threat in 7-8 days...but we have to deal with Isidore first.

Wave E and SE of Bahamas need convective persistence. We'll leave it at that. Still could develop down the line, but needs to put on an impressive show at night, not just during the day.

Eastern Atlantic wave flaring up this morning, but low pressure associated with it looks like it is pretty far north 12-13 N. If the system in front develops, this one will go fishing. Always happens that way.

That's how the basin looks today...yeah, looks like a real hellbender. It appears we are going to have numerous tropical problems next week....Isidore possibly bearing down big time on NE GOMEX...hurricane threat in the islands...and monitoring the other areas closely.

Strange the way this season and last didn't need to have an active August and early September to be bad seasons. I think we are in a pattern shift that favors more late season activity...and the steering patterns are letting the Atlantic stuff get further west. The Caribbean stuff is also getting further north now....Keith was thought to be a GOMEX threat but never was, Michelle made an honest effort to scare S. Florida, and Isidore may just be the real thing.

I wonder what this season would be like with a La Nina...talk about bombardment. Of course, if the Atlantic is shifting into a new pattern, all we will have to do is wait for another La Nina to come. The results won't pretty when we do get one.

Enough babbling for now.

Kevin

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* Subtropical Depression 12 and Isidore MikeCAdministrator Sat Sep 21 2002 08:37 AM
. * * My own personal cat 5 Domino   Sat Sep 21 2002 04:43 AM
. * * Re: My own personal cat 5 Rick   Sat Sep 21 2002 09:24 AM
. * * Re: My own personal cat 5 Frank P   Sat Sep 21 2002 09:46 AM
. * * Re: My own personal cat 5 Rick   Sat Sep 21 2002 11:10 AM
. * * Re: My own personal cat 5 Justin in Miami   Sat Sep 21 2002 11:34 AM
. * * Re: My own personal cat 5 Kimster   Sat Sep 21 2002 10:45 AM
. * * Re: My own personal cat 5 joepub1   Sat Sep 21 2002 10:55 AM
. * * Re: My own personal cat 5 wxman007   Sat Sep 21 2002 10:53 AM
. * * Re: My own personal cat 5 joepub1   Sat Sep 21 2002 10:13 AM
. * * Hey Derek... Steve   Sat Sep 21 2002 09:35 AM
. * * Izzy headed south of due west? Rich B   Sat Sep 21 2002 05:54 AM
. * * Re: Izzy headed south of due west? Anonymous   Sat Sep 21 2002 07:26 AM
. * * Re: Izzy headed south of due west? Kevin   Sat Sep 21 2002 08:37 AM
. * * Re: Izzy headed south of due west? 57497479   Sat Sep 21 2002 08:54 AM
. * * Surprise! a 5 hour night... Steve   Sat Sep 21 2002 09:13 AM
. * * Re: Surprise! a 5 hour night... 57497479   Sat Sep 21 2002 09:24 AM
. * * Re: Surprise! a 5 hour night... Frank P   Sat Sep 21 2002 09:23 AM
. * * Re: Izzy headed south of due west? 57497479   Sat Sep 21 2002 09:09 AM
. * * Re: Izzy headed south of due west? Kimster   Sat Sep 21 2002 10:19 AM
. * * Re: Izzy headed south of due west? Anonymous   Sat Sep 21 2002 11:18 AM
. * * Re: Izzy headed south of due west? Kimster   Sat Sep 21 2002 12:29 PM
. * * Re: Izzy headed south of due west? Kimster   Sat Sep 21 2002 12:27 PM
. * * Re: Izzy headed south of due west? Anonymous   Sat Sep 21 2002 11:23 AM
. * * Media=Nuts Kevin   Sat Sep 21 2002 10:51 AM
. * * Re: Izzy headed south of due west? OrlandoDude   Sat Sep 21 2002 10:17 AM
. * * Re: Izzy headed south of due west? Kevin   Sat Sep 21 2002 09:07 AM
. * * Re: Izzy headed south of due west? 57497479   Sat Sep 21 2002 09:16 AM
. * * Re: Izzy headed south of due west? clyde w.   Sat Sep 21 2002 08:48 AM
. * * Re: Izzy headed south of due west? clyde w.   Sat Sep 21 2002 08:49 AM
. * * Re: Subtropical Depression 12 and Isidore Anonymous   Sat Sep 21 2002 03:52 AM
. * * Re: Subtropical Depression 12 and Isidore troy2   Sat Sep 21 2002 12:33 AM
. * * Re: Subtropical Depression 12 and Isidore Anonymous   Fri Sep 20 2002 11:36 PM
. * * Re: Subtropical Depression 12 and Isidore Anonymous   Fri Sep 20 2002 11:14 PM
. * * coming in jimmy99   Fri Sep 20 2002 10:24 PM
. * * Re: coming in Ricreig   Fri Sep 20 2002 10:46 PM
. * * Re: coming in FlaRebel   Fri Sep 20 2002 10:53 PM
. * * Re: Subtropical Depression 12 and Isidore Anonymous   Fri Sep 20 2002 10:16 PM
. * * Has anyone noticed.... Ricreig   Fri Sep 20 2002 09:59 PM
. * * Re: Has anyone noticed.... Anonymous   Fri Sep 20 2002 10:09 PM
. * * Re: Has anyone noticed.... Ricreig   Fri Sep 20 2002 10:12 PM
. * * Re: Has anyone noticed.... DopplerGal   Fri Sep 20 2002 10:47 PM
. * * Re: Subtropical Depression 12 and Isidore meto   Fri Sep 20 2002 09:48 PM
. * * Re: Subtropical Depression 12 and Isidore Danya   Fri Sep 20 2002 09:40 PM
. * * Re: Subtropical Depression 12 and Isidore Ricreig   Fri Sep 20 2002 09:50 PM
. * * Re:Wishcasting etc. Jeanine   Fri Sep 20 2002 10:54 PM
. * * Re:Wishcasting etc. Kimster   Sat Sep 21 2002 01:57 AM
. * * Re:Wishcasting etc. joepub1   Fri Sep 20 2002 11:46 PM
. * * Re:Wishcasting etc. Bruce   Sat Sep 21 2002 12:16 AM
. * * Re:Wishcasting etc. Bruce   Sat Sep 21 2002 12:34 AM
. * * Re:Wishcasting etc. Frank P   Fri Sep 20 2002 11:58 PM
. * * Re:Wishcasting etc. joepub1   Sat Sep 21 2002 12:12 AM
. * * Re:Wishcasting etc. Rad   Sat Sep 21 2002 12:07 AM
. * * Re:Wishcasting etc. Anonymous   Sat Sep 21 2002 12:14 AM
. * * Re:Wishcasting etc. PaulyAce2002   Sat Sep 21 2002 12:34 AM
. * * Re:Wishcasting etc. Jeanine   Sat Sep 21 2002 12:49 AM
. * * 92l troy2   Sat Sep 21 2002 12:42 AM
. * * Re:Wishcasting etc. PaulyAce2002   Sat Sep 21 2002 12:41 AM
. * * Re:Wishcasting etc. joepub1   Sat Sep 21 2002 12:31 AM
. * * Speaking of wishcasting Ricreig   Sat Sep 21 2002 12:11 AM
. * * Re: Speaking of wishcasting Frank P   Sat Sep 21 2002 12:43 AM
. * * MAJOR CANE WXMAN RICHIE   Sat Sep 21 2002 10:54 AM
. * * Re: MAJOR CANE joepub1   Sat Sep 21 2002 11:02 AM
. * * Re: MAJOR CANE (MAJOR problems) Kevin   Sat Sep 21 2002 11:16 AM
. * * Re: MAJOR CANE Southern4sure   Sat Sep 21 2002 11:19 AM
. * * Re: Info Kevin   Sat Sep 21 2002 11:27 AM
. * * And next up is... joepub1   Sat Sep 21 2002 11:42 AM
. * * Re: Info Anonymous   Sat Sep 21 2002 11:39 AM
. * * Re: MAJOR CANE Rasvar   Sat Sep 21 2002 11:15 AM
. * * Re: Speaking of wishcasting BillD   Sat Sep 21 2002 12:59 AM
. * * I'm sitting here thinking, 'damn, this is a pretty serious situation.' Steve   Sat Sep 21 2002 01:48 AM
. * * Re: Speaking of wishcasting Bruce   Sat Sep 21 2002 12:49 AM
. * * Re: Speaking of wishcasting Kimster   Sat Sep 21 2002 01:51 AM
. * * Re: Speaking of wishcasting Steve   Sat Sep 21 2002 01:52 AM
. * * 'nuther lateniter HanKFranK   Sat Sep 21 2002 02:20 AM
. * * Re: 'nuther lateniter Kimster   Sat Sep 21 2002 02:46 AM
. * * Re: 'nuther lateniter Kimmie at home   Sat Sep 21 2002 03:09 AM
. * * Re: Speaking of wishcasting jlauderdal   Sat Sep 21 2002 12:46 AM
. * * Re:Wishcasting etc. BillD   Fri Sep 20 2002 11:33 PM
. * * Re:Wishcasting etc. Floridacane   Fri Sep 20 2002 11:09 PM
. * * if it has stalled Rick in Mobile   Fri Sep 20 2002 11:01 PM
. * * Re: if it has stalled BillD   Fri Sep 20 2002 11:11 PM
. * * Re: if it has stalled Ricreig   Fri Sep 20 2002 11:17 PM
. * * Anyone got any opinions on the 11pm offical track? Steve   Fri Sep 20 2002 11:22 PM
. * * Re: if it has stalled troy2   Fri Sep 20 2002 11:22 PM
. * * Re: if it has stalled Bruce   Fri Sep 20 2002 11:33 PM
. * * Re: if it has stalled Anonymous   Fri Sep 20 2002 11:10 PM
. * * THIS WON'T BE PRETTY YA'LL Rick in Mobile   Fri Sep 20 2002 11:09 PM
. * * Re: if it has stalled troy2   Fri Sep 20 2002 11:07 PM
. * * Discussion... wxman007   Fri Sep 20 2002 11:05 PM
. * * Re: Discussion... Ricreig   Fri Sep 20 2002 11:24 PM
. * * Re: Discussion... wxman007   Fri Sep 20 2002 11:37 PM
. * * Next 72 hours are very clear... Kevin   Fri Sep 20 2002 11:30 PM
. * * Re: Discussion... joepub1   Fri Sep 20 2002 11:23 PM
. * * Re: Discussion...(hmmm...) Kevin   Fri Sep 20 2002 11:19 PM
. * * Re: Discussion...(hmmm...) clyde w.   Fri Sep 20 2002 11:29 PM
. * * Re: Discussion... DopplerGal   Fri Sep 20 2002 11:09 PM
. * * New Orleans Met Frank P   Fri Sep 20 2002 11:29 PM
. * * Re:Wishcasting etc. Bruce   Fri Sep 20 2002 11:01 PM
. * * Re:Wishcasting etc. Ricreig   Fri Sep 20 2002 10:59 PM
. * * Re: Subtropical Depression 12 and Isidore Danya   Fri Sep 20 2002 09:59 PM
. * * Re: Subtropical Depression 12 and Isidore Ricreig   Fri Sep 20 2002 10:08 PM
. * * Re: Subtropical Depression 12 and Isidore meto   Fri Sep 20 2002 08:23 PM
. * * Re: Subtropical Depression 12 and Isidore Londovir   Fri Sep 20 2002 08:32 PM
. * * Cancun Radar greg-kfdmtv   Fri Sep 20 2002 08:46 PM
. * * Re: Subtropical Depression 12 and Isidore meto   Fri Sep 20 2002 08:16 PM
. * * Re: Subtropical Depression 12 and Isidore Anonymous   Fri Sep 20 2002 08:50 PM
. * * Re: Wishcasters and Andrew BillD   Fri Sep 20 2002 09:29 PM
. * * Re: Subtropical Depression 12 and Isidore Ricreig   Fri Sep 20 2002 09:16 PM
. * * Re: Subtropical Depression 12 and Isidore MikeCAdministrator   Fri Sep 20 2002 09:21 PM
. * * Re: Subtropical Depression 12 and Isidore joepub1   Fri Sep 20 2002 09:37 PM
. * * Re: Subtropical Depression 12 and Isidore joepub1   Fri Sep 20 2002 09:08 PM
. * * It's delicious... Steve   Fri Sep 20 2002 08:47 PM
. * * Re: Subtropical Depression 12 and Isidore meto   Fri Sep 20 2002 08:12 PM
. * * Re: Subtropical Depression 12 and Isidore meto   Fri Sep 20 2002 08:01 PM
. * * Re: Subtropical Depression 12 and Isidore Jeanine   Fri Sep 20 2002 08:05 PM
. * * Re: Subtropical Depression 12 and Isidore BillD   Fri Sep 20 2002 08:20 PM
. * * Re: Subtropical Depression 12 and Isidore VolusiaMike   Fri Sep 20 2002 08:03 PM
. * * meto - find me a north movement in the shortwave and you can mail me a hat for desert Steve   Fri Sep 20 2002 08:03 PM
. * * Re: Subtropical Depression 12 and Isidore J.J.   Fri Sep 20 2002 07:49 PM
. * * Re: Subtropical Depression 12 and Isidore meto   Fri Sep 20 2002 07:47 PM
. * * Wishcasting for Indiana... Domino   Fri Sep 20 2002 06:38 PM
. * * Re: Wishcasting for Indiana... Mike   Fri Sep 20 2002 07:40 PM
. * * Re: Wishcasting for Indiana... MikeCAdministrator   Fri Sep 20 2002 07:28 PM
. * * 18Z AVN greg-kfdmtv   Fri Sep 20 2002 07:32 PM
. * * Greg ShawnS   Fri Sep 20 2002 07:35 PM
. * * 18Z Landfall greg-kfdmtv   Fri Sep 20 2002 07:41 PM
. * * Re: 18Z Landfall ShawnS   Fri Sep 20 2002 07:47 PM
. * * Re: 18Z Landfall Anonymous   Fri Sep 20 2002 07:44 PM
. * * Wave east of the islands is my concern Cycloneye   Fri Sep 20 2002 06:53 PM
. * * Re: Wave east of the islands is my concern Kevin   Fri Sep 20 2002 07:16 PM
. * * Re: Wave east of the islands is my concern troy2   Fri Sep 20 2002 07:13 PM
. * * Re: Subtropical Depression 12 and Isidore Anonymous   Fri Sep 20 2002 06:35 PM
. * * Re: Subtropical Depression 12 and Isidore meto   Fri Sep 20 2002 05:58 PM
. * * Re: Subtropical Depression 12 and Isidore BillD   Fri Sep 20 2002 07:45 PM
. * * AVN website greg-kfdmtv   Fri Sep 20 2002 07:49 PM
. * * Isidore's future... J.J.   Fri Sep 20 2002 05:34 PM
. * * Re: Isidore's future... Anonymous   Fri Sep 20 2002 05:40 PM
. * * Re: Isidore's future... Anonymous   Fri Sep 20 2002 06:13 PM
. * * Re: Subtropical Depression 12 and Isidore Rasvar   Fri Sep 20 2002 05:21 PM
. * * Re: Subtropical Depression 12 and Isidore Anonymous   Fri Sep 20 2002 05:26 PM
. * * Re: Isidore's 72 hour speed (directed to anonymous poster) Kevin   Fri Sep 20 2002 05:42 PM
. * * Re: Isidore's 72 hour speed (directed to anonymous poster) wxman007   Fri Sep 20 2002 05:51 PM
. * * Re: Isidore's 72 hour speed (directed to anonymous poster) Kevin   Fri Sep 20 2002 05:55 PM
. * * Re: Isidore's 72 hour speed (directed to anonymous poster) Anonymous   Fri Sep 20 2002 05:54 PM
. * * Re: Isidore's 72 hour speed (directed to anonymous poster) wxman007   Fri Sep 20 2002 06:05 PM
. * * Re: Isidore's 72 hour speed (directed to anonymous poster) Anonymous   Fri Sep 20 2002 05:49 PM
. * * Re: Subtropical Depression 12 and Isidore Kevin   Fri Sep 20 2002 05:13 PM

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