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Unseasonably stout wave in Caribbean bringing enhanced showers and tstorms for several days, but lacks model support for development 5/26
Days since last H. Landfall - US: Any 276 (Idalia) , Major: 276 (Idalia) Florida - Any: 276 (Idalia) Major: 276 (Idalia)
 


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Re: Final Advisory
      Mon Aug 15 2005 05:53 AM

It's near the diurnal convective maximum, so the standard short-term caveats apply in this case, but TD 10 is looking, well, like a tropical depression once again. Convection has flared up around the center in curved bands, primarily to the northwest and notheast of the center. It is still in a shearing environment and will likely remain so for the next day or two, but it is looking quite a bit like Irene did for several days. I mentioned earlier that I'm not sure why the NHC downgraded it so quickly, particularly given what they maintained with Irene, but they are the experts and I'm not going to say it was a bad call...just one I'd like some clarification on.

If current trends continue, I expect they'll pick back up with advisories sometime Monday. That said, I'd only put it at 50/50 that current trends continue, given the shear in the vicinity of the disturbance. No matter whether it gets picked back up or not, it should continue largely to the west or west-northwest and be near the northern islands in a few days. The weakness of the storm plus it missing the weakness from the trough to the NE are the culprits in this motion. Beyond that, model solutions diverge, with the potential for this to either head back out to sea (NOGAPS, GFDL) or turn more towards the west (GFS, UKMET) -- needless to say, it's way too early to make a forecast on this, given that it isn't even a depression right now.

The GFS forecasts a more favorable upper-level environment to develop near the storm in the next day or so, while the UKMET tracks an identifiable entity through 6 days to a position near the Bahamas, suggesting some development may be possible later in the period. The NOGAPS is a bit more bullish than the GFS on developing this ridging, a departure from what was forecast in most of yesterday's runs. They will all have to be watched for continuity and to see if this all actually occurs, but given the model concurrence, it's a good bet things will get more favorable through time.

So, to recap...it's not TD 10 right now, but it's not out of our hair just yet. We'll watch it.

Interesting to note...it's 5-6 days out, but all of the models are picking up on a strong feature coming off of the coast of Africa at that point. Another upper-low is forecast to build into the central Atlantic in 3-4 days, but start to move out about the time this feature hits the coast. The favorable environment conditions are coming, as advertised...we'll have to see how this pans out.

More Monday or Tuesday.

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* TD 10 is now upon us Storm Cooper Mon Aug 15 2005 05:53 AM
. * * Re: TD 10 is now upon us pedro   Mon Aug 15 2005 02:40 AM
. * * Re: TD 10 is now upon us MikeG   Mon Aug 15 2005 02:50 AM
. * * Final Advisory danielwAdministrator   Mon Aug 15 2005 03:42 AM
. * * Re: Final Advisory Clark   Mon Aug 15 2005 05:53 AM
. * * Re: WAVE LONNY307   Mon Aug 15 2005 11:50 AM
. * * Bye Bye Irene Wxwatcher2   Mon Aug 15 2005 01:06 PM
. * * Re: Bye Bye Irene craigm   Mon Aug 15 2005 04:32 PM
. * * Re: Bye Bye Irene Rabbit   Mon Aug 15 2005 05:03 PM
. * * Re: Bye Bye Irene Ron Basso   Mon Aug 15 2005 05:56 PM
. * * Re: Bye Bye TD 10 NONAME   Mon Aug 15 2005 06:25 PM
. * * Re: Bye Bye TD 10 Old Sailor   Mon Aug 15 2005 06:28 PM
. * * Re: Bye Bye TD 10 atwork   Mon Aug 15 2005 06:33 PM
. * * Re: Bye Bye TD 10 Old Sailor   Mon Aug 15 2005 07:00 PM
. * * Re: Bye Bye TD 10 ralphfl   Mon Aug 15 2005 07:32 PM
. * * Re: Bye Bye TD 10 Old Sailor   Mon Aug 15 2005 07:49 PM
. * * Re: Bye Bye TD 10 craigm   Mon Aug 15 2005 10:23 PM
. * * Re: Bye Bye TD 10 Steve   Mon Aug 15 2005 08:27 PM
. * * Re: Bye Bye TD 10 damejune2   Mon Aug 15 2005 11:12 PM
. * * Re: Bye Bye TD 10 Ron Basso   Tue Aug 16 2005 01:18 AM
. * * Re: Bye Bye TD 10 Clark   Tue Aug 16 2005 01:47 AM
. * * Re: Bye Bye TD 10 Ryan   Tue Aug 16 2005 03:20 AM
. * * the more things change, the more they stay the same HanKFranK   Tue Aug 16 2005 01:46 AM
. * * Re: Bye Bye TD 10 Steve H1   Mon Aug 15 2005 11:43 PM
. * * Re: Bye Bye TD 10 Ron Basso   Tue Aug 16 2005 01:40 AM
. * * Re: Bye Bye TD 10 Brad in Miami   Tue Aug 16 2005 03:49 AM
. * * Re: Bye Bye TD 10 La Nimo   Tue Aug 16 2005 03:54 AM
. * * Re: Bye Bye TD 10 HanKFranK   Tue Aug 16 2005 05:04 AM
. * * Re: Bye Bye TD 10 Storm Hunter   Tue Aug 16 2005 06:50 AM
. * * Ex TD10 making a comeback Cycloneye11   Tue Aug 16 2005 10:55 AM
. * * Re: Ex TD10 making a comeback GuppieGrouper   Tue Aug 16 2005 11:30 AM
. * * Re: Ex TD10 making a comeback MichaelA   Tue Aug 16 2005 11:48 AM
. * * Re: Ex TD10 making a comeback Ron Basso   Tue Aug 16 2005 01:10 PM
. * * Re: Ex TD10 making a comeback NewWatcher   Tue Aug 16 2005 01:18 PM
. * * Re: Ex TD10 making a comeback ftlaudbob   Tue Aug 16 2005 01:55 PM
. * * Re: Ex TD10 making a comeback ralphfl   Tue Aug 16 2005 02:44 PM
. * * Re: Ex TD10 making a comeback(?) Bloodstar   Tue Aug 16 2005 03:18 PM
. * * Re: Ex TD10 making a comeback Ryan   Tue Aug 16 2005 02:18 PM
. * * Re: Ex TD10 making a comeback The Force 2005   Tue Aug 16 2005 02:06 PM
. * * Re: Ex TD10 making a comeback Random Chaos   Tue Aug 16 2005 01:50 PM
. * * Re: Ex TD10 making a comeback NewWatcher   Tue Aug 16 2005 02:21 PM
. * * A Learning Opportunity VolusiaMike   Tue Aug 16 2005 12:04 PM
. * * Re: Bye Bye TD 10 La Nimo   Tue Aug 16 2005 03:14 AM
. * * Re: Bye Bye TD 10 fatmike   Tue Aug 16 2005 12:41 AM
. * * Re: Bye Bye TD 10 tpratch   Mon Aug 15 2005 11:58 PM
. * * Re: Bye Bye TD 10 Storm Cooper   Tue Aug 16 2005 12:17 AM
. * * Re: Bye Bye TD 10 Steve   Tue Aug 16 2005 01:09 AM
. * * Down Time Ryan   Mon Aug 15 2005 06:46 PM
. * * Wave off of Africa NONAME   Mon Aug 15 2005 05:39 PM
. * * Re: Wave off of Africa Ryan   Mon Aug 15 2005 05:51 PM
. * * Re: Bye Bye Irene Lee-Delray   Mon Aug 15 2005 05:33 PM
. * * Re: Bye Bye Irene Ed in Va   Mon Aug 15 2005 03:21 PM
. * * Re: Bye Bye Irene NONAME   Mon Aug 15 2005 03:42 PM
. * * Re: Bye Bye Irene CDMOrlando   Mon Aug 15 2005 05:49 PM
. * * The Tropics Ryan   Mon Aug 15 2005 04:02 PM
. * * Re: The Tropics Figment   Mon Aug 15 2005 04:04 PM
. * * Re: TD 10 is now upon us MikeG   Mon Aug 15 2005 03:41 AM
. * * The Resurrection of TD10 TheElNino   Sun Aug 14 2005 11:26 PM
. * * Re: The Resurrection of TD10 CaneTrackerInSoFl   Sun Aug 14 2005 11:49 PM
. * * TD10 danielwAdministrator   Sun Aug 14 2005 11:57 PM
. * * Re: TD10 Ron Basso   Mon Aug 15 2005 12:21 AM
. * * Re: TD10 La Nimo   Mon Aug 15 2005 12:29 AM
. * * Irene danielwAdministrator   Mon Aug 15 2005 12:06 AM
. * * Re: Irene MikeG   Mon Aug 15 2005 01:23 AM
. * * Re: Irene Steve H1   Mon Aug 15 2005 01:54 AM
. * * Re: Irene 52255225   Mon Aug 15 2005 01:32 AM
. * * Re: Irene John03   Mon Aug 15 2005 01:37 AM
. * * Re: Irene CaneTrackerInSoFl   Mon Aug 15 2005 01:46 AM
. * * TD#10 Coming back for more? Ryan   Mon Aug 15 2005 01:29 AM
. * * Re: TD#10 Coming back for more? richisurfs   Mon Aug 15 2005 01:54 AM
. * * Re: TD#10 Coming back for more? BrianW   Mon Aug 15 2005 02:26 AM
. * * Re: TD#10 Coming back for more? MikeG   Mon Aug 15 2005 02:30 AM
. * * Re: TD#10 Coming back for more? John03   Mon Aug 15 2005 02:33 AM
. * * Re: TD 10 is now upon us LVG   Sun Aug 14 2005 02:41 AM
. * * Re: TD 10 is now upon us Beaumont, TX   Sun Aug 14 2005 01:12 AM
. * * Re: TD 10 is now upon us Clark   Sun Aug 14 2005 12:50 AM
. * * Re: TD 10 is now upon us NONAME   Sun Aug 14 2005 12:44 AM
. * * Re: TD 10 and NONAME danielwAdministrator   Sun Aug 14 2005 12:52 AM
. * * Re: TD 10 and NONAME pcola   Sun Aug 14 2005 12:57 AM
. * * Re: TD 10 and NONAME damejune2   Sun Aug 14 2005 01:13 AM
. * * Re: TD 10 and NONAME GuppieGrouper   Sun Aug 14 2005 01:12 AM
. * * Re: TD 10 and NONAME Beaumont, TX   Sun Aug 14 2005 01:13 AM
. * * Caribbean Waves danielwAdministrator   Sun Aug 14 2005 01:17 AM
. * * Re: Caribbean Waves Old Sailor   Sun Aug 14 2005 01:26 AM
. * * Re: Caribbean Waves ralphfl   Sun Aug 14 2005 02:52 AM
. * * Re: Caribbean Waves Ed DunhamAdministrator   Sun Aug 14 2005 03:08 AM
. * * Administrative Note Ed DunhamAdministrator   Sun Aug 14 2005 04:15 AM
. * * Re: Administrative Note damejune2   Sun Aug 14 2005 04:35 AM
. * * Re: Administrative Note Wxwatcher2   Sun Aug 14 2005 02:00 PM
. * * Re: Administrative Note Margie   Sun Aug 14 2005 03:00 PM
. * * Re: Administrative Note Lee-Delray   Sun Aug 14 2005 03:11 PM
. * * Re: Administrative Note GuppieGrouper   Sun Aug 14 2005 03:27 PM
. * * Re: Administrative Note Lee-Delray   Sun Aug 14 2005 03:39 PM
. * * Re: CHANGES lonny307   Sun Aug 14 2005 04:26 PM
. * * Sunday Morning MikeG   Sun Aug 14 2005 02:19 PM
. * * Re: Sunday Morning Clark   Sun Aug 14 2005 04:36 PM
. * * Re: Sunday Morning Steve H1   Sun Aug 14 2005 04:52 PM
. * * Re: Sunday Morning Steve   Sun Aug 14 2005 05:21 PM
. * * Re: Sunday Morning damejune2   Sun Aug 14 2005 08:54 PM
. * * Re: Sunday Morning Hurricane Fredrick 1979   Sun Aug 14 2005 10:09 PM
. * * Re: Sunday Morning Old Sailor   Sun Aug 14 2005 06:42 PM
. * * Re: Sunday Morning MikeG   Sun Aug 14 2005 06:58 PM
. * * Re: Sunday Morning Margie   Sun Aug 14 2005 06:50 PM
. * * Re: Sunday Morning Old Sailor   Sun Aug 14 2005 06:58 PM
. * * Re: Sunday Morning Margie   Sun Aug 14 2005 07:44 PM
. * * Re: Still a TS MikeG   Sun Aug 14 2005 08:37 PM
. * * Re: Still a TS Margie   Sun Aug 14 2005 10:10 PM
. * * Re: Still a TS JG   Sun Aug 14 2005 10:44 PM
. * * Re: Sunday Morning MikeG   Sun Aug 14 2005 07:13 PM
. * * Re: Sunday Morning Kevin   Sun Aug 14 2005 05:13 PM
. * * Re: Sunday Morning NONAME   Sun Aug 14 2005 02:23 PM
. * * Re: Administrative Note Gainesville, FL   Sun Aug 14 2005 05:32 AM
. * * Long Range Model Ed DunhamAdministrator   Sun Aug 14 2005 05:02 AM
. * * Re: Long Range Model Clark   Sun Aug 14 2005 05:40 AM
. * * Re: Long Range Model Margie   Sun Aug 14 2005 06:40 AM
. * * why people listen to Bastardi LoisCane   Sun Aug 14 2005 12:31 PM
. * * Re: why people listen to Bastardi MikeG   Sun Aug 14 2005 12:41 PM
. * * Re: Long Range Model Steve   Sun Aug 14 2005 06:20 AM
. * * Re: Long Range Model Tazmanian93   Sun Aug 14 2005 12:49 PM
. * * Circulation off SW Florida Ed DunhamAdministrator   Sun Aug 14 2005 01:12 PM
. * * Re: Circulation off SW Florida NONAME   Sun Aug 14 2005 01:31 PM
. * * Re: Caribbean Waves *Killed -- Sent to Graveyard* ralphfl   Sun Aug 14 2005 03:17 AM
. * * Re: Caribbean Waves stormchazer   Sun Aug 14 2005 03:45 AM
. * * Just love this sat loop Frank P   Sun Aug 14 2005 02:20 AM
. * * Re: Just love this sat loop Old Sailor   Sun Aug 14 2005 02:31 AM
. * * Re: Just love this sat loop damejune2   Sun Aug 14 2005 02:55 AM
. * * Re: Just love this sat loop John03   Sun Aug 14 2005 02:45 AM
. * * Re: Just love this sat loop ralphfl   Sun Aug 14 2005 02:43 AM
. * * Re: Just love this sat loop damejune2   Sun Aug 14 2005 02:47 AM
. * * Re:sat loop NONAME   Sun Aug 14 2005 02:41 AM
. * * Re: another record possible? MikeG   Sun Aug 14 2005 02:48 AM
. * * Re: TD 10 and NONAME La Nimo   Sun Aug 14 2005 01:08 AM
. * * Re: TD 10 is now upon us Storm Cooper   Sun Aug 14 2005 12:48 AM

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