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Isidore Close to the Yucatan future Still Uncertain
      Sun Sep 22 2002 06:03 PM

9AM Update
Isidore down to a tropical storm, still meandering over land. I think the threat of a major on the US Coast has gone down, but not far enough to be comfortable. Isidore may never make it back over the open water. I'll wait until the 11AM advisory set to make the next real update.


11PM Update
Isidore moved south onto the Yucatan peninsula and is now stalled near Meridia. Dumping tremendous amounts of rain... after plenty of wind and probably storm surge. I believe it has gone as far south as it will. Now it will hang out and eventually move back over the water. I do think it'll restrengthen and head north still.

It has weakened, and may a bit more first.... Still watching and waiting, and still nowhere in the gulf is in the clear yet.

8PM Update

Isidore move totally inland... and is moving southwest. The storm is still strong. A bit of a wildcard was thrown into the forecast. More later...

Original Update

Isidore is jogging a bit south now. But not as west as much, which may make things interesting. It's a borderline Cat 3/4 system, and the hurricane center is keeping it a 3 for now due to being so close to land.

Now it's time to eat a bit of crow and admit it'll probably make landfall briefly (as in very... I doubt the entire eye will make it over) on the Yucatan from the north side. (Rare) Then it's still anyone's guess. Yes Mexico seems more likely now, but it isn't as likely as you may think. It still has one more good shot at getting pulled to the north later. Still isidore will be with us for a bit.



The models are still all over, but my previous guess of landfall between TX/LA and FL/AL borders stands unchanged. All of the gulf still has to remain on alert. I just can't rule anything out at this point. Mexico is a close second to the TX/LA - FL/AL call.

Confidence in any of these models or landfall calls:

code:

forget it) 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 (sure thing)
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Ie almost nil.

Keep watch folks, this tracking ride's steepest hill has yet to be climbed.

Too add yet another oddity, the mass of clouds east of Isidore, south of Cuba looks like it may becoming its own entity.

Earlier BillD gave me some animated cancun radar loops from last night you can find them here and also here.

TD#13 is moving almost too quickly for it to develop much soon, and may fall apart a bit, although I think it'll regain itself and become lili sometime tomorrow.

Cancun, Mexico Radar

NRL Monterey Marine Meteorology Division Forecast Track of Active Systems (Good Forecast Track Graphic and Satellite Photos)

NASA GHCC Interactive Satellite images at:
North Atlantic Visible (Daytime Only), Infrared, Water Vapor

Some forecast models:
NGM, AVN, MRF, ETA ECMWF

DoD Weather Models (NOGAPS, AVN, MRF)
AVN, ECMWF, GFDL, MM5, NOGAPS, UKMET

Other commentary at Mike Anderson's East Coast Tropical Weather Center, Robert Lightbown/Crown Weather Tropical Update Accuweather's Joe Bastardi, Hurricane City Weather Audio Broadcast Network - Live Audio from Jim Williams and Barometer Bob , mpittweather , Tropical Weather Watchers.Com (JasonM) Gary Gray's Millennium Weather, Barometer Bob's Hurricane Hollow, Snonut, Ed Dunham and Jason M in our Storm Forum Even more on the links page.

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* Isidore Close to the Yucatan future Still Uncertain MikeCAdministrator Sun Sep 22 2002 06:03 PM
. * * Hazardous Wind Arrival wes   Tue Sep 24 2002 03:41 PM
. * * Lili Anonymous   Mon Sep 23 2002 03:41 PM
. * * Re: Lili Anonymous   Mon Sep 23 2002 03:44 PM
. * * With Isidore having become a TS... SirCane   Mon Sep 23 2002 01:23 PM
. * * Re: With Isidore having become a TS... Anonymous   Mon Sep 23 2002 01:42 PM
. * * west jog ??? Frank P   Mon Sep 23 2002 02:02 PM
. * * will turn north tonight at midnight Frank P   Mon Sep 23 2002 02:07 PM
. * * will re-emerge from the dead...believe it Rickinmobile   Mon Sep 23 2002 02:19 PM
. * * Re: will turn north tonight at midnight Anonymous   Mon Sep 23 2002 02:16 PM
. * * I agree Mr. Jimmy Frank P   Mon Sep 23 2002 02:26 PM
. * * Hey Cat 5 Rick Frank P   Mon Sep 23 2002 02:31 PM
. * * Re: Hey Cat 5 Rick Kimster   Mon Sep 23 2002 02:45 PM
. * * DRIFTING EASTWARD Frank P   Mon Sep 23 2002 02:59 PM
. * * Another very important factor Frank P   Mon Sep 23 2002 03:09 PM
. * * Hmmmm StormHound   Mon Sep 23 2002 03:14 PM
. * * Re: DRIFTING EASTWARD BabyCat   Mon Sep 23 2002 03:09 PM
. * * Re: Isidore Close to the Yucatan future Still Uncertain Anonymous   Mon Sep 23 2002 10:28 AM
. * * Re: Isidore Close to the Yucatan future Still Uncertain J.J.   Mon Sep 23 2002 03:17 PM
. * * Re: Isidore Close to the Yucatan future Still Uncertain anon   Mon Sep 23 2002 03:33 PM
. * * consider HanKFranK   Mon Sep 23 2002 03:33 PM
. * * Re: consider Floridacane   Mon Sep 23 2002 03:40 PM
. * * Re: Isidore Close to the Yucatan future Still Uncertain Floridacane   Mon Sep 23 2002 12:17 PM
. * * Izzy may be done! ShawnS   Mon Sep 23 2002 12:09 PM
. * * Re: Izzy may be done! Anonymous   Mon Sep 23 2002 12:17 PM
. * * Re: Izzy may be done! Anonymous   Mon Sep 23 2002 12:15 PM
. * * Caught in between the two scenarios Frank P   Mon Sep 23 2002 12:20 PM
. * * Re: Caught in between the two scenarios StormHound   Mon Sep 23 2002 12:29 PM
. * * Re: Caught in between the two scenarios Floridacane   Mon Sep 23 2002 12:38 PM
. * * Frank P... Anonymous   Mon Sep 23 2002 12:36 PM
. * * Then again... Anonymous   Mon Sep 23 2002 12:41 PM
. * * Confident...... Frank P   Mon Sep 23 2002 12:56 PM
. * * Re: Isidore Close to the Yucatan future Still Uncertain Anonymous   Mon Sep 23 2002 10:21 AM
. * * Re: Isidore Close to the Yucatan future Still Uncertain Anonymous   Mon Sep 23 2002 03:39 AM
. * * Re: Isidore Close to the Yucatan future Still Uncertain Frank P   Mon Sep 23 2002 03:44 AM
. * * Re: Isidore Close to the Yucatan future Still Uncertain Anonymous   Mon Sep 23 2002 03:30 AM
. * * Re: Isidore Close to the Yucatan future Still Uncertain Anonymous   Mon Sep 23 2002 02:19 AM
. * * Re: Isidore Close to the Yucatan future Still Uncertain Anonymous   Mon Sep 23 2002 01:50 AM
. * * If I remember correctly........ SirCane   Mon Sep 23 2002 12:29 AM
. * * TD13 Domino   Mon Sep 23 2002 12:40 AM
. * * Re: TD13 Joe   Mon Sep 23 2002 12:50 AM
. * * South ShawnS   Mon Sep 23 2002 12:56 AM
. * * Re: TD13 Joe   Mon Sep 23 2002 12:54 AM
. * * Re: TD13 Joe   Mon Sep 23 2002 12:59 AM
. * * Hmmmmm.......Oh Frank.......... Southern4sure   Mon Sep 23 2002 01:24 AM
. * * Re: Hmmmmm.......Oh Frank.......... Frank P   Mon Sep 23 2002 01:35 AM
. * * Don't buy the loop scenario ... yet Frank P   Mon Sep 23 2002 01:42 AM
. * * Shawn... moving soooooooo slow Frank P   Mon Sep 23 2002 01:52 AM
. * * Hey Frank.. Anonymous   Mon Sep 23 2002 02:13 AM
. * * HT... per your request Frank P   Mon Sep 23 2002 02:26 AM
. * * Re: Hello, Frank NoviceMS   Mon Sep 23 2002 02:41 AM
. * * unforseen (except maybe by the gfdl) HanKFranK   Mon Sep 23 2002 02:57 AM
. * * Evening NoviceMS Frank P   Mon Sep 23 2002 02:55 AM
. * * Re: Evening NoviceMS Justin in Miami   Mon Sep 23 2002 03:10 AM
. * * Re: Evening NoviceMS Frank P   Mon Sep 23 2002 03:20 AM
. * * Re: HT... per your request Frank P   Mon Sep 23 2002 02:36 AM
. * * Re: HT... per your request BillD   Mon Sep 23 2002 02:58 AM
. * * GOOD GRIEF Frank P   Mon Sep 23 2002 03:13 AM
. * * Re: GOOD GRIEF joepub1   Mon Sep 23 2002 03:28 AM
. * * Re: GOOD GRIEF LoisCane   Mon Sep 23 2002 03:49 AM
. * * Re: GOOD GRIEF Floridacane   Mon Sep 23 2002 03:26 AM
. * * Re: GOOD GRIEF Frank P   Mon Sep 23 2002 03:35 AM
. * * Speaking of getting serious... Anonymous   Mon Sep 23 2002 03:42 AM
. * * Re: Speaking of getting serious... Floridacane   Mon Sep 23 2002 03:45 AM
. * * Looks like he's on the move again. Houstontracker   Mon Sep 23 2002 03:49 AM
. * * Re: Looks like he's on the move again. BillD   Mon Sep 23 2002 04:07 AM
. * * Re: Looks like he's on the move again. Floridacane   Mon Sep 23 2002 03:54 AM
. * * Re: Looks like he's on the move again. Domino   Mon Sep 23 2002 04:07 AM
. * * Re: Looks like he's on the move again. Floridacane   Mon Sep 23 2002 04:21 AM
. * * Re: Looks like he's on the move again. Domino   Mon Sep 23 2002 04:30 AM
. * * Re: Looks like he's on the move again. Floridacane   Mon Sep 23 2002 04:39 AM
. * * Re: Looks like he's on the move again. Domino   Mon Sep 23 2002 05:59 AM
. * * nah.. HanKFranK   Mon Sep 23 2002 06:33 AM
. * * Re: nah.. Anonymous   Mon Sep 23 2002 06:50 AM
. * * Middle of the night Domino   Mon Sep 23 2002 08:35 AM
. * * 5 a.m. WXMAN RICHIE   Mon Sep 23 2002 09:16 AM
. * * Re: Looks like he's on the move again. Floridacane   Mon Sep 23 2002 04:45 AM
. * * Re: Looks like he's on the move again. Domino   Mon Sep 23 2002 05:51 AM
. * * excellent link, Houstontracker RickinMobile   Mon Sep 23 2002 03:53 AM
. * * westward jog? Rickinmobile   Mon Sep 23 2002 03:41 AM
. * * Re: GOOD GRIEF Floridacane   Mon Sep 23 2002 03:40 AM
. * * Re: GOOD GRIEF Justin in Miami   Mon Sep 23 2002 03:30 AM
. * * Re: GOOD GRIEF izzy brown LoisCane   Mon Sep 23 2002 03:22 AM
. * * Re: GOOD GRIEF Justin in Miami   Mon Sep 23 2002 03:17 AM
. * * Re: GOOD GRIEF Rick In Mobile   Mon Sep 23 2002 03:21 AM
. * * Re: HT... per your request joepub1   Mon Sep 23 2002 02:40 AM
. * * Re: Hmmmmm.......Oh Frank.......... ShawnS   Mon Sep 23 2002 01:40 AM
. * * will emerge over the Yucatan in about 12-14 hours RickinMobile   Mon Sep 23 2002 01:51 AM
. * * MOVEMENT WXMAN RICHIE   Mon Sep 23 2002 01:32 AM
. * * IR fix for Lat and Long Frank P   Mon Sep 23 2002 01:22 AM
. * * Re: IR fix for Lat and Long BillD   Mon Sep 23 2002 01:48 AM
. * * MOVEMENT WXMAN RICHIE   Mon Sep 23 2002 01:57 AM
. * * Re: MOVEMENT Frank P   Mon Sep 23 2002 02:09 AM
. * * jog se LoisCane   Mon Sep 23 2002 03:30 AM
. * * Re: MOVEMENT ShawnS   Mon Sep 23 2002 02:14 AM
. * * Well, looks like the fun continues.... wxman007   Mon Sep 23 2002 01:53 AM
. * * go west..young man... Rickinmobile   Mon Sep 23 2002 02:38 AM
. * * Rick ShawnS   Mon Sep 23 2002 02:55 AM
. * * Shawn Rick in Mobile   Mon Sep 23 2002 03:11 AM
. * * New Models ShawnS   Mon Sep 23 2002 01:53 AM
. * * Frank P ShawnS   Mon Sep 23 2002 01:31 AM
. * * Re: TD13 canman32   Mon Sep 23 2002 12:53 AM
. * * Re: If I remember correctly........ canman32   Mon Sep 23 2002 12:36 AM
. * * Re: Isidore Close to the Yucatan future Still Uncertain meto   Mon Sep 23 2002 12:18 AM
. * * Re: Isidore Close to the Yucatan future Still Uncertain Anonymous   Sun Sep 22 2002 11:49 PM
. * * Last post for tonight Kevin   Sun Sep 22 2002 11:57 PM
. * * Hey Kevin........ SirCane   Sun Sep 22 2002 10:39 PM
. * * Re: Hey Kevin........ Kevin   Sun Sep 22 2002 10:46 PM
. * * Re: Hey Kevin........ canman32   Sun Sep 22 2002 10:51 PM
. * * Re: Hey Kevin........ Kevin   Sun Sep 22 2002 11:01 PM
. * * I don't know! ShawnS   Sun Sep 22 2002 11:18 PM
. * * Re: I don't know! joepub1   Sun Sep 22 2002 11:39 PM
. * * Re: I don't know! Kevin   Sun Sep 22 2002 11:33 PM
. * * Here's the Deal ShawnS   Sun Sep 22 2002 11:43 PM
. * * Re: Here's the Deal joepub1   Mon Sep 23 2002 12:02 AM
. * * Re: Here's the Deal Anonymous   Mon Sep 23 2002 12:10 AM
. * * Re: Here's the Deal FlaRebel   Mon Sep 23 2002 12:19 AM
. * * Go figure... Frank P   Mon Sep 23 2002 12:34 AM
. * * Re: Go figure... recmod   Mon Sep 23 2002 12:54 AM
. * * Re: Go figure... brew   Mon Sep 23 2002 01:33 AM
. * * Re: Go figure... joepub1   Mon Sep 23 2002 12:41 AM
. * * Hey Joe Frank P   Mon Sep 23 2002 12:54 AM
. * * Re: Here's the Deal canman32   Mon Sep 23 2002 12:09 AM
. * * MERIDA WEATHER WXMAN RICHIE   Mon Sep 23 2002 12:09 AM
. * * Re: Here's the Deal joepub1   Sun Sep 22 2002 11:50 PM
. * * MOVEMENT WXMAN RICHIE   Mon Sep 23 2002 12:00 AM
. * * Re: I don't know! Domino   Sun Sep 22 2002 11:24 PM
. * * Re: Hey Kevin........ canman32   Sun Sep 22 2002 11:14 PM
. * * Hey Rick in Mobile troy2   Sun Sep 22 2002 10:57 PM
. * * Re: Isidore Close to the Yucatan future Still Uncertain Anonymous   Sun Sep 22 2002 10:10 PM
. * * Inland ShawnS   Sun Sep 22 2002 10:15 PM
. * * Re: Inland troy2   Sun Sep 22 2002 10:37 PM
. * * situation/long set of forecast options HanKFranK   Sun Sep 22 2002 11:17 PM
. * * Re: situation/long set of forecast options mr jimmy   Sun Sep 22 2002 11:30 PM
. * * Re: situation/long set of forecast options cappycat   Sun Sep 22 2002 11:57 PM
. * * Re: situation/long set of forecast options turkeyman   Sun Sep 22 2002 11:36 PM
. * * a short post for once HanKFranK   Sun Sep 22 2002 11:42 PM
. * * Re: 7 pm advisory bsnyder   Sun Sep 22 2002 11:40 PM
. * * Re: Inland wobbles Kevin   Sun Sep 22 2002 10:34 PM
. * * Re: Inland joepub1   Sun Sep 22 2002 10:33 PM
. * * mbfly... Steve   Sun Sep 22 2002 10:14 PM
. * * barometric pressure question? cappycat   Sun Sep 22 2002 09:54 PM
. * * Re: barometric pressure question? Justin in Miami   Sun Sep 22 2002 10:21 PM
. * * Re: barometric pressure question? cappycat   Sun Sep 22 2002 10:38 PM
. * * Re: Isidore Close to the Yucatan future Still Uncertain Anonymous   Sun Sep 22 2002 08:52 PM
. * * Re: Isidore Close to the Yucatan future Still Uncertain Anonymous   Sun Sep 22 2002 06:13 PM
. * * Re: Isidore Close to the Yucatan future Still Uncertain Anonymous   Sun Sep 22 2002 07:13 PM
. * * Re: Isidore Close to the Yucatan future Still Uncertain Kylein Pensacola   Sun Sep 22 2002 07:33 PM
. * * Model Agree? Anonymous   Sun Sep 22 2002 07:45 PM
. * * eh? HanKFranK   Sun Sep 22 2002 08:00 PM
. * * Re: eh? Ed DunhamAdministrator   Sun Sep 22 2002 08:38 PM
. * * LINK WXMAN RICHIE   Sun Sep 22 2002 08:42 PM
. * * Re: LINK Ed DunhamAdministrator   Sun Sep 22 2002 09:44 PM
. * * Sat Picture MikeCAdministrator   Sun Sep 22 2002 09:50 PM
. * * Re: eh? Anonymous   Sun Sep 22 2002 08:04 PM
. * * Re: eh? Anonymous   Sun Sep 22 2002 08:42 PM
. * * Re: eh? canman32   Sun Sep 22 2002 08:52 PM
. * * WATCH OUT U.S. WXMAN RICHIE   Sun Sep 22 2002 08:57 PM
. * * Re: WATCH OUT U.S. Kevin   Sun Sep 22 2002 09:11 PM
. * * Effects here in Pearland? ShawnS   Sun Sep 22 2002 09:27 PM
. * * Re: Effects here in Pearland? joepub1   Sun Sep 22 2002 10:01 PM
. * * Re: Effects here in Pearland? joepub1   Sun Sep 22 2002 09:38 PM
. * * Florida Panhandle Marcie   Sun Sep 22 2002 09:56 PM
. * * Re: Florida Panhandle Justin in Miami   Sun Sep 22 2002 10:29 PM
. * * loop to New Orleans, Mobile, Pensacola RickinMobile   Sun Sep 22 2002 10:40 PM
. * * Re: loop to New Orleans, Mobile, Pensacola troy2   Sun Sep 22 2002 10:44 PM
. * * Re: Tropical assults Kevin   Sun Sep 22 2002 10:48 PM
. * * Re: Florida Panhandle Anonymous   Sun Sep 22 2002 10:04 PM
. * * Re: Florida Panhandle troy2   Sun Sep 22 2002 10:04 PM
. * * Re: Florida Panhandle Anonymous   Sun Sep 22 2002 10:13 PM
. * * I'll catch up on the reading later... Steve   Sun Sep 22 2002 09:33 PM
. * * Re: I'll catch up on the reading later... mbfly   Sun Sep 22 2002 09:54 PM
. * * GOTTA HIT NEW ORLEANS Frank P   Sun Sep 22 2002 09:53 PM
. * * Re: GOTTA HIT NEW ORLEANS Justin in Miami   Sun Sep 22 2002 10:44 PM
. * * Re: GOTTA HIT NEW ORLEANS Frank P   Sun Sep 22 2002 11:55 PM
. * * LANDFALL WXMAN RICHIE   Sun Sep 22 2002 08:35 PM
. * * Re: LANDFALL joepub1   Sun Sep 22 2002 08:54 PM
. * * Re: Isidore Close to the Yucatan future Still Uncertain Anonymous   Sun Sep 22 2002 07:44 PM
. * * Mid-day tropics. Kevin   Sun Sep 22 2002 06:11 PM
. * * Re: Mid-day tropics. squirralee   Sun Sep 22 2002 07:33 PM
. * * Re: Mid-day tropics. squirralee   Sun Sep 22 2002 07:10 PM

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