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Newly tagged Invest 91L in the Central American Gyre heading towards MX/TX, a slow and sprawling flood threat. Bahamas hybrid well E of FL 10%/30% odd and expected to track back to the W across FL or SE US this week.
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      Mon Sep 23 2002 06:34 PM

while all of the forecasting chaos has been going on close to home, that little system behind lili has started showing signs of organization. one piece split off and went northwest, the rest is following the itcz.. it was the northwest piece that was written off due to shear, but it is actually holding down a convective mass and appears to have banded low level clouds feeding into it. there hasnt been an invest put on it, but a couple of models i summarily discounted foresaw this feature riding nw, and curving east under the deep trough in the eastern atlantic. theres still a lot of shear up there and waters near 18/37.. close to its location.. are marginal. but there it is, holding down convection all the same. the wave that came off to its southeast by the way is looking healthy convection-wise.
closer in, more models taking kyle further south and west now. cmc run even has it to 25/60. note that kyle isnt moving much.. it would have to deepen to really get caught in the NE flow. then again its appearance has been improving since it reached the top of its loop last night and was getting sheared as it dissociated from the upper trough that was letting go. kyle is out in fish country, but if some models are to be believe then it could be pretty close to bermuda in a few days.
lili... more intense on the 2pm mini advisory.. but i can see the llc racing ahead again. note how far to the south it is entering the caribbean.. it's going into the 'hurricane graveyard'. im not ready to buy the more zealous forecasts on this storm just yet. it's still trying to race and in a historically bad place for hurricanes. until it slows down i wont be fully convinced of its threat.
swirl off nc has some convection forming on the west flank. water temps are supposed to be at support threshhold as far up the coast as south jersey, so this could become a good coastal rainstorm before it reaches southeast new england. further south there is talk of a siamese twin to isidore forming near cuba/bahamas. nothing overtly suggestive at this point, but still the nagging feeling that models are on to something, if not the details about that something.
isidore.. the big story still. my ideas still follow that it will re-enter the gulf and head nw, then north.. but nhc getting less and less sure about the future west movement. coincidentally, storm hasnt crossed 90w. wouldnt it be hilarious if it never does.. after my concession the other day? ah well, i'll join the 'general warning' crowd and say 'all interests from texas to florida should monitor the progress of this system'. isnt that dull?
i slid to option three.. se louisiana to ms/al coast this morning. staying there for now. cat 3 intensity sounds good to me.
HF 1837z23september

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* Isidore Weakens -- Lili Forms MikeCAdministrator Mon Sep 23 2002 06:34 PM
. * * Lili jlauderdal   Tue Sep 24 2002 12:11 AM
. * * Re: Isidore Weakens -- Lili Forms meto   Mon Sep 23 2002 11:01 PM
. * * Re:Meto Anonymous   Mon Sep 23 2002 11:08 PM
. * * Re: Isidore Weakens -- Lili Forms meto   Mon Sep 23 2002 09:27 PM
. * * On the Lighter side LadyStorm   Mon Sep 23 2002 08:02 PM
. * * My favorite one... Steve   Mon Sep 23 2002 08:10 PM
. * * Re: My favorite one... canman32   Mon Sep 23 2002 08:21 PM
. * * Re: My favorite one... Joe   Mon Sep 23 2002 08:14 PM
. * * Off topic, but... Kevin   Mon Sep 23 2002 08:27 PM
. * * Re: Off topic, but... Gofins13   Mon Sep 23 2002 08:58 PM
. * * west Anonymous   Mon Sep 23 2002 09:01 PM
. * * Its all premature speculation anyway...... Frank P   Mon Sep 23 2002 09:12 PM
. * * Re: Its all premature speculation anyway...... joepub1   Mon Sep 23 2002 10:25 PM
. * * Got Lucky Again! ShawnS   Mon Sep 23 2002 10:40 PM
. * * All Central Gulf Coasters... Anonymous   Mon Sep 23 2002 11:01 PM
. * * Re: All Central Gulf Coasters... Kevin   Mon Sep 23 2002 11:28 PM
. * * Re: All Central Gulf Coasters... joepub1   Mon Sep 23 2002 11:50 PM
. * * Re: All Central Gulf Coasters... wxman007   Mon Sep 23 2002 11:35 PM
. * * Re: All Central Gulf Coasters... mbfly   Mon Sep 23 2002 11:53 PM
. * * Re: All Central Gulf Coasters... wxman007   Tue Sep 24 2002 12:00 AM
. * * Re: All Central Gulf Coasters... Kevin   Tue Sep 24 2002 12:15 AM
. * * Hey Jason Frank P   Tue Sep 24 2002 12:29 AM
. * * Re: Hey Jason wxman007   Tue Sep 24 2002 12:32 AM
. * * Re: All Central Gulf Coasters... Joe   Tue Sep 24 2002 12:27 AM
. * * Re: All Central Gulf Coasters... troy2   Tue Sep 24 2002 12:26 AM
. * * Re: All Central Gulf Coasters... Anonymous   Tue Sep 24 2002 12:08 AM
. * * Re: All Central Gulf Coasters... Justin in Miami   Tue Sep 24 2002 12:06 AM
. * * Re: All Central Gulf Coasters... Anonymous   Tue Sep 24 2002 12:11 AM
. * * Izzy ShawnS   Mon Sep 23 2002 11:57 PM
. * * Re: Izzy Frank P   Tue Sep 24 2002 12:10 AM
. * * Re: Izzy joepub1   Tue Sep 24 2002 12:14 AM
. * * Re: Izzy Anonymous   Tue Sep 24 2002 12:12 AM
. * * Re: Izzy wxman007   Tue Sep 24 2002 12:13 AM
. * * Re: All Central Gulf Coasters... Anonymous   Mon Sep 23 2002 11:49 PM
. * * Re: All Central Gulf Coasters... wxman007   Mon Sep 23 2002 11:52 PM
. * * Re: All Central Gulf Coasters... Justin in Miami   Mon Sep 23 2002 11:46 PM
. * * Re: All Central Gulf Coasters... wxman007   Mon Sep 23 2002 11:51 PM
. * * Re: west Anonymous   Mon Sep 23 2002 09:05 PM
. * * changes (or lack thereof) HanKFranK   Mon Sep 23 2002 09:31 PM
. * * 4pm discussion answers last few questions... Steve   Mon Sep 23 2002 09:15 PM
. * * Re: 4pm discussion answers last few questions... clyde w.   Mon Sep 23 2002 09:17 PM
. * * Re: 4pm discussion answers last few questions... Frank P   Mon Sep 23 2002 09:34 PM
. * * Re: 4pm discussion answers last few questions... Kevin   Mon Sep 23 2002 10:01 PM
. * * Re: 4pm discussion answers last few questions... Floridacane   Mon Sep 23 2002 10:05 PM
. * * Re: 4pm discussion answers last few questions... Kevin   Mon Sep 23 2002 10:21 PM
. * * Absolutely... Steve   Mon Sep 23 2002 09:25 PM
. * * Re: Absolutely... Anonymous   Mon Sep 23 2002 09:33 PM
. * * the fun begins tonight.... Rick in Mobile   Mon Sep 23 2002 09:59 PM
. * * It's comin' for >>YOU<< Rick! Steve   Mon Sep 23 2002 09:38 PM
. * * Step 1 - Coastal Flood Watches are out now for LA/MS... Steve   Mon Sep 23 2002 09:32 PM
. * * Re: Absolutely... Anonymous   Mon Sep 23 2002 09:29 PM
. * * Re: west caneman   Mon Sep 23 2002 09:13 PM
. * * 2 STORMS WXMAN RICHIE   Mon Sep 23 2002 08:55 PM
. * * Agree 100% Kevin SirCane   Mon Sep 23 2002 07:32 PM
. * * too much for the models? Rasvar   Mon Sep 23 2002 06:04 PM
. * * Re: Isidore Weakens -- Lili Forms Anonymous   Mon Sep 23 2002 05:20 PM
. * * Re: S or west Cuba Anonymous   Mon Sep 23 2002 05:35 PM
. * * Re: S or west Cuba clyde w.   Mon Sep 23 2002 05:42 PM
. * * Re: S or west Cuba Anonymous   Mon Sep 23 2002 06:37 PM
. * * Re: S or west Cuba Mike   Mon Sep 23 2002 06:56 PM
. * * Lily and Izzy Kevin   Mon Sep 23 2002 07:24 PM
. * * Isidore, moving slightly Anonymous   Mon Sep 23 2002 07:33 PM
. * * Respectfully disagree Frank P   Mon Sep 23 2002 07:57 PM
. * * starting to move? rick in mobile   Mon Sep 23 2002 08:01 PM
. * * Re: starting to move? Anonymous   Mon Sep 23 2002 08:08 PM
. * * Pressures Anonymous   Mon Sep 23 2002 08:17 PM
. * * Lilly? Anonymous   Mon Sep 23 2002 07:09 PM
. * * Re: Isidore Weakens -- Lili Forms Mike   Mon Sep 23 2002 03:55 PM
. * * mmmkay HanKFranK   Mon Sep 23 2002 04:02 PM
. * * For the record... Steve   Mon Sep 23 2002 04:43 PM
. * * Re: For the record... Rasvar   Mon Sep 23 2002 05:07 PM
. * * Re: For the record... Carl   Mon Sep 23 2002 05:40 PM
. * * Re: For the record... caneman   Mon Sep 23 2002 06:04 PM
. * * add another mark HanKFranK   Mon Sep 23 2002 06:34 PM
. * * Re: add another mark Skeeter   Mon Sep 23 2002 07:35 PM
. * * Re: For the record... Frank P   Mon Sep 23 2002 06:21 PM
. * * Re: For the record... Frank P   Mon Sep 23 2002 05:38 PM
. * * Re: For the record... Anonymous   Mon Sep 23 2002 04:51 PM
. * * Future Threat From Lili? Any thoughts? Justin in Miami   Mon Sep 23 2002 04:49 PM
. * * Re: Future Threat From Lili? Any thoughts? Anonymous   Mon Sep 23 2002 04:59 PM
. * * Re: Future Threat From Lili? Any thoughts? Justin in Miami   Mon Sep 23 2002 05:05 PM
. * * Re: Future Threat From Lili? Any thoughts? Anonymous   Mon Sep 23 2002 08:58 PM
. * * Re: Isidore Weakens -- Lili Forms Frank P   Mon Sep 23 2002 03:55 PM

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