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Margie
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Re: Katrina's Forecast Track Shifts West, Northern Gulf Needs to Watch
      Sat Aug 27 2005 12:42 AM

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Margie,

Charley 2004 was a Cat 4 at landfall. It traveled northeast across florida and was still a Cat 1 hurricane when it went back over water. This storm traveled approximately 165 miles over land. The devestation in Lake Wales was incredible. Lake Wales is exactly 72 miles from Port Charlotte/Punta Gorda.



I just did some online research on Charley and actually this does prove my point that Cat 4 / Cat 5 level winds are not sustained very far inland.

First from the NHC documentation of Charley they specify that the high Cat 4 winds were only within a 6 nautical mile radius of the eye at landfall.

Secondly from an online map and writeup documenting the damage from Charley, it was shown to be a Cat 4 for only the first 5 miles inland; by the time it had crossed the peninsula and the Myakka River, and was approaching Port Charlotte, its windfield was already down to a Cat 3. However Port Charlotte and Punta Gorda were right on the bay and within the narrow radius of the highest winds at the time, so they suffered Cat 3 level damage.

To quote from one of the online documents, "The RMS reconnaissance team surveying the landfall area confirmed the highest levels of damage from just south of Fort Myers northward to Port Charlotte. Offshore barrier islands ... took the brunt of the storm’s wind and surge." This refers to a 30-mile strip of coastal areas which took the onshore winds east or south of the eye, and does not mention any inland areas. It also indicates that windfields weakened even after only passing barrier islands, before hitting the mainland.

This is totally consistent with the windfields of Camille and Andrew, which also diminished rapidly from Cat 5 strength after very few miles inland.

So I still feel I make a good case and that it is fair to say that Cat 4 / Cat 5 level damage, which is generally complete devastation due not only to high winds, but also in no small part to storm surge and the force of wind-driven waves, is generally limited to a very small diameter area that does not extend very many miles inland.

So, to tie this to Katrina, if it does reach Cat 4 or Cat 5 intensity, the area of almost total devastation that would occur from that level of damage, if it did hit a populated shoreline, would most likely be a very small area that does not extend for very many miles inland, as was the case with Camille, Andrew, and Charley.

The point I was trying to make in the original post, was to answer the specific question of how far inland someone would have to worry about that frightening level of damage. The answer is, not very far inland, so don't worry about, as Hugh put it, the coast of Arkansas. In other words, let's minimize the panic factor.

However damage at a lower threshold can and does occur and varies with each storm.

If the original question was simply to ask, how far inland is there damage if you start with a Cat 5, then I totally misunderstood the question.

With Camille, there was huge damage in W VA from rains and flooding, long after the windfield was gone.

Edit - went back and looked, and actually I think I did misunderstand what they were asking.

So probably nobody cares just how long a Cat 4 stays a Cat 4.

Hey you can delete this post if you like!

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Katrina's Surge: http://www.wunderground.com/hurricane/Katrinas_surge_contents.asp

Edited by Margie (Sat Aug 27 2005 12:51 AM)

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. * * Re: Katrina's Forecast Track Shifts West, Northern Gulf Needs to Watch Hugh   Fri Aug 26 2005 10:13 PM
. * * Re: Katrina's Forecast Track Shifts West, Northern Gulf Needs to Watch Hugh   Fri Aug 26 2005 09:58 PM
. * * Re: Katrina's Forecast Track Shifts West, Northern Gulf Needs to Watch belleami   Fri Aug 26 2005 09:53 PM
. * * Re: Katrina's Forecast Track Shifts West, Northern Gulf Needs to Watch Hugh   Fri Aug 26 2005 09:52 PM
. * * Re: Katrina's Forecast Track Shifts West, Northern Gulf Needs to Watch Hugh   Fri Aug 26 2005 09:13 PM
. * * Re: Katrina's Forecast Track Shifts West, Northern Gulf Needs to Watch Katie   Fri Aug 26 2005 08:44 PM
. * * Re: Katrina's Forecast Track Shifts West, Northern Gulf Needs to Watch Tropics Guy   Fri Aug 26 2005 09:17 PM
. * * Re: Katrina's Forecast Track Shifts West, Northern Gulf Needs to Watch ralphfl   Fri Aug 26 2005 08:43 PM
. * * Re: Katrina's Forecast Track Shifts West, Northern Gulf Needs to Watch jr928   Fri Aug 26 2005 08:38 PM
. * * Re: Katrina's Forecast Track Shifts West, Northern Gulf Needs to Watch hurricane expert   Fri Aug 26 2005 07:07 PM
. * * Re: Katrina's Forecast Track Shifts West, Northern Gulf Needs to Watch hurricane expert   Fri Aug 26 2005 06:36 PM
. * * wv loop bobbutts   Fri Aug 26 2005 06:32 PM
. * * Re: Katrina's Forecast Track Shifts West, Northern Gulf Needs to Watch FloydRTurbo   Fri Aug 26 2005 05:50 PM
. * * Re: Katrina's Forecast Track Shifts West, Northern Gulf Needs to Watch Convergence   Fri Aug 26 2005 06:09 PM
. * * Re: Katrina's Forecast Track Shifts West, Northern Gulf Needs to Watch Hawkeyewx   Fri Aug 26 2005 06:16 PM
. * * Re: Katrina's Forecast Track Shifts West, Northern Gulf Needs to Watch Frank P   Fri Aug 26 2005 06:28 PM
. * * AL MS LA danielwAdministrator   Fri Aug 26 2005 07:12 PM
. * * Re: AL MS LA Margie   Fri Aug 26 2005 07:18 PM
. * * Re: AL MS LA D3m3NT3DVoRT3X   Fri Aug 26 2005 07:23 PM
. * * Re: AL MS LA StormHound   Fri Aug 26 2005 07:26 PM
. * * Re: AL MS LA D3m3NT3DVoRT3X   Fri Aug 26 2005 07:31 PM
. * * Re: AL MS LA Terra   Fri Aug 26 2005 07:35 PM
. * * Weakness in the ridge around the SC GA border? Bloodstar   Fri Aug 26 2005 07:33 PM
. * * Re: Weakness in the ridge around the SC GA border? Hugh   Fri Aug 26 2005 07:36 PM
. * * Re: Weakness in the ridge around the SC GA border? Steve H1   Fri Aug 26 2005 07:41 PM
. * * Re: AL MS LA Random Chaos   Fri Aug 26 2005 07:33 PM
. * * Re: AL MS LA Hugh   Fri Aug 26 2005 07:31 PM
. * * Re: AL MS LA StormHound   Fri Aug 26 2005 07:42 PM
. * * Re: AL MS LA Frank P   Fri Aug 26 2005 07:48 PM
. * * Re: AL MS LA Hugh   Fri Aug 26 2005 07:56 PM
. * * Re: AL MS LA Genesis   Fri Aug 26 2005 08:06 PM
. * * Re: AL MS LA Hugh   Fri Aug 26 2005 08:10 PM
. * * Re: AL MS LA Genesis   Fri Aug 26 2005 08:16 PM
. * * Re: AL MS LA Hugh   Fri Aug 26 2005 08:18 PM
. * * Re: AL MS LA MrSpock   Fri Aug 26 2005 08:39 PM
. * * Re: AL MS LA Terra   Fri Aug 26 2005 08:03 PM
. * * Re: AL MS LA Hugh   Fri Aug 26 2005 08:07 PM
. * * Movement danielwAdministrator   Fri Aug 26 2005 08:01 PM
. * * Re: Movement Hugh   Fri Aug 26 2005 08:05 PM
. * * Re: AL MS LA Hugh   Fri Aug 26 2005 07:48 PM
. * * Re: AL MS LA Terra   Fri Aug 26 2005 07:30 PM
. * * Re: AL MS LA danielwAdministrator   Fri Aug 26 2005 07:26 PM
. * * Re: AL MS LA GuppieGrouper   Fri Aug 26 2005 07:22 PM
. * * Re: AL MS LA nl   Fri Aug 26 2005 07:24 PM
. * * Re: AL MS LA danielwAdministrator   Fri Aug 26 2005 07:32 PM
. * * Re: AL MS LA MrSpock   Fri Aug 26 2005 07:16 PM
. * * NO Rick on boat in Mobile   Fri Aug 26 2005 07:18 PM
. * * Re: Katrina's Forecast Track Shifts West, Northern Gulf Needs to Watch GuppieGrouper   Fri Aug 26 2005 06:36 PM
. * * Re: Katrina's Forecast Track Shifts West, Northern Gulf Needs to Watch Frank P   Fri Aug 26 2005 06:21 PM
. * * Re: Katrina's Forecast Track Shifts West, Northern Gulf Needs to Watch zmdz01   Fri Aug 26 2005 06:28 PM
. * * Re: Katrina's Forecast Track Shifts West, Northern Gulf Needs to Watch MissouriHurricane2008   Fri Aug 26 2005 05:12 PM
. * * Re: Katrina's Forecast Track Shifts West, Northern Gulf Needs to Watch Sheeper   Fri Aug 26 2005 05:19 PM
. * * Re: Katrina's Forecast Track Shifts West, Northern Gulf Needs to Watch Margie   Fri Aug 26 2005 05:40 PM
. * * Re: Katrina's Forecast Track Shifts West, Northern Gulf Needs to Watch SirCane   Fri Aug 26 2005 05:15 PM
. * * Re: Katrina's Forecast Track Shifts West, Northern Gulf Needs to Watch twizted sizter   Fri Aug 26 2005 05:31 PM
. * * Re: Katrina's Forecast Track Shifts West, Northern Gulf Needs to Watch Clark   Fri Aug 26 2005 05:20 PM
. * * Re: Katrina's Forecast Track Shifts West, Northern Gulf Needs to Watch Ryan   Fri Aug 26 2005 05:39 PM
. * * I ain't skeered Rick on boat in Mobile   Fri Aug 26 2005 05:43 PM
. * * Re: Katrina's Forecast Track Shifts West, Northern Gulf Needs to Watch Storm Hunter   Fri Aug 26 2005 05:26 PM
. * * Re: Katrina's Forecast Track Shifts West, Northern Gulf Needs to Watch MrSpock   Fri Aug 26 2005 05:33 PM
. * * Re: Katrina's Forecast Track Shifts West, Northern Gulf Needs to Watch 00cj   Fri Aug 26 2005 05:31 PM
. * * Re: Katrina's Forecast Track Shifts West, Northern Gulf Needs to Watch Margie   Fri Aug 26 2005 05:43 PM
. * * Re: Katrina's Forecast Track Shifts West, Northern Gulf Needs to Watch Rich B   Fri Aug 26 2005 05:36 PM
. * * Re: Katrina's Forecast Track Shifts West, Northern Gulf Needs to Watch Margie   Fri Aug 26 2005 06:05 PM
. * * Re: Katrina's Forecast Track Shifts West, Northern Gulf Needs to Watch TDW   Fri Aug 26 2005 05:42 PM
. * * Re: Katrina's Forecast Track Shifts West, Northern Gulf Needs to Watch mbfly   Fri Aug 26 2005 06:45 PM
. * * Re: Katrina's Forecast Track Shifts West, Northern Gulf Needs to Watch Random Chaos   Fri Aug 26 2005 07:05 PM
. * * 90L now an invest Random Chaos   Fri Aug 26 2005 07:09 PM
. * * Re: Katrina's Forecast Track Shifts West, Northern Gulf Needs to Watch weatherwatcher2   Fri Aug 26 2005 05:40 PM
. * * Re: Katrina's Forecast Track Shifts West, Northern Gulf Needs to Watch Rich B   Fri Aug 26 2005 05:43 PM
. * * Re: Katrina's Forecast Track Shifts West, Northern Gulf Needs to Watch Margie   Fri Aug 26 2005 05:48 PM
. * * Round 2, Ding Dingg Ryan   Fri Aug 26 2005 05:52 PM
. * * Re: Round 2, Ding Dingg Ron Basso   Fri Aug 26 2005 06:13 PM
. * * Re: Round 2, Ding Dingg Bruce   Fri Aug 26 2005 06:04 PM
. * * Re: Round 2, Ding Dingg Margie   Fri Aug 26 2005 06:15 PM
. * * eyewall rebuilding cycle going on... Rick on boat in Mobile   Fri Aug 26 2005 06:02 PM
. * * radar Rick on boat in Mobile   Fri Aug 26 2005 05:31 PM
. * * Re: Katrina's Forecast Track Shifts West, Northern Gulf Needs to Watch Miami Beach, FLA USA   Fri Aug 26 2005 05:23 PM
. * * Re: Katrina's Forecast Track Shifts West, Northern Gulf Needs to Watch DebbiePSL   Fri Aug 26 2005 05:46 PM
. * * Re: Katrina's Forecast Track Shifts West, Northern Gulf Needs to Watch TDW   Fri Aug 26 2005 05:26 PM
. * * Re: Katrina's Forecast Track Shifts West, Northern Gulf Needs to Watch Big Kahuna   Fri Aug 26 2005 05:36 PM

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