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Jax Chris
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Re: Tropical Depression 14 Forms in Central Atlantic, No Threat to Land
      Thu Sep 01 2005 08:08 PM

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Amazing video! WOW.

Did anyone see the snow job that FEMA Director Chertoff did at his news conference? What he said does not mesh with what the video and eye witness accounts at the city show. "We are bringing in thousands and thousands of gallons of water for the survivors." Not according to the thousands at the Convention Center (where three people were murdered last night and several were raped). I realize that public officials must keep morale up, but it is clear (from viewing the video, hearing the people, and listening to the streaming police and fire scanners), and will be made clear when it is revealed how many died of thirst/hunger/lack of security, etc. that Chertoff was completely out of touch with the reality of the situation.

The mayor of New Orleans just sent out "a desperate S.O.S." Sure Director Chertoff.... I believe you. What a farce of a press conference.



I see that Chetoff didn't say, "We have brought thousands and thousands of gallons...," he said, "We are bringing..." Since you're saying that he's incorrect, you are contending that there's no water on the way. Please, tell us the source that leads you to believe that no water is on the way. Or, if the problem is you think that water has taken too long to get there, where would you have shipped the water from, over what routes, and how would you have delivered the water to its final destination in the Superdome? What leads you to believe that those routes are available?

You also indicate that a supply of water would have prevented murders and rapes. I can imagine some circumstances where a water supply would prevent murders, but I would appreciate it if you could explain how a source of water would prevent rapes. I guess I'm just dense; I would contend that people having respect for each other would have prevented these alleged (since I've not heard reports, but I'll admit that they possibly did occur) murders and rapes.

I don't expect answers to these questions, especially since this isn't the correct forum for this discussion. But the tone has gotten increasingly shrill, and seems to have descended into attempting to manufacture evidence that people involved in handling the disaster aren't doing all that can be done to ease the situation. Sitting back, arm-chair quaterbacking, is easy. "I'd get them food." Fine. From where? How much? How to get it there? Can we go all the way by road, or are parts impassable? If we need to change from one form of transportation to another, where can that be done? What could we have used the space to bring in if we didn't bring in food; insulin, for example? How do we distribute it at the end without causing a riot? It's these little details of actually doing it that are hard.

Well, I guess I've made my first post that'll get sent to the graveyard (except for this sentence saying it'll be sent to the graveyard, and the moderator's note, "You got that right"). But these constant complaints about the disaster management team not living up to an impossible standard are getting tiring.

Jax Chris

i'm not gonna graveyard it, but other mods might...but you didn't get it right either

Edited by LI Phil (Thu Sep 01 2005 08:53 PM)

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* Tropical Depression 14 Forms in Central Atlantic, No Threat to Land MikeCAdministrator Thu Sep 01 2005 08:08 PM
. * * Re: Tropical Depression 14 Forms in Central Atlantic, No Threat to Land Fletch   Thu Sep 01 2005 05:46 PM
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. * * Re: Tropical Depression 14 Forms in Central Atlantic, No Threat to Land Ed in Va   Thu Sep 01 2005 06:45 PM
. * * Miami NWS's take on trough near Bahamas Brad in Miami   Thu Sep 01 2005 07:02 PM
. * * Re: Tropical Depression 14 Forms in Central Atlantic, No Threat to Land twizted sizter   Thu Sep 01 2005 05:50 PM
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. * * Re: Tropical Depression 14 Forms in Central Atlantic, No Threat to Land Jax Chris   Thu Sep 01 2005 08:08 PM
. * * Re: Tropical Depression 14 Forms in Central Atlantic, No Threat to Land tpratch   Thu Sep 01 2005 08:20 PM
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. * * consider this Rick on boat in Mobile   Thu Sep 01 2005 08:19 PM
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. * * Re: Tropical Depression 14 Forms in Central Atlantic, No Threat to Land Big Red Machine   Fri Sep 02 2005 01:12 AM
. * * NBC Nightly News interview of FEMA Dir. Brown Miami Beach, FLA USA   Fri Sep 02 2005 01:22 AM
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. * * Don't Look Now...But LI Phil   Fri Sep 02 2005 01:10 AM
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