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HanKFranK
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Loc: Graniteville, SC
should have made a track...
      Tue Oct 01 2002 11:25 AM

lili: intensity forecast coming off o.k. so far.. a little low, as it were. 11pm last night had the storm at 80mph/983mb.. actual was 85mph/978mb. just now i had guessed the storm would be 85/978.. it is 90/971. staying within my 15mph/8mb margin of error so far.. barely. sticking with beaumont tx, with any corrections east.. not by much. not betting on this one really getting new orleans. it is going to cross the lowland western tip of cuba fairly soon.. some higher terrain will be just north of the center and we may see a slight weakening. as for the storm treading tainted waters, it is going right along the path isidore took.. which should begin to diverge some later today. as far as oceanic heat content, i remember the nhc guys saying isidore could move very slowly and not have to worry about upwelling due to the deep layer of warm water. my philosophy is, if isidore couldnt ruin it all, moving at about 5mph, why should lili moving at 13?
kyle has returned to tropical storm strength.. nhc had overdone the weakening.. as some uncontaminated quickscat vectors were as high as 45kt. nhc likes to underrate whenever possible, so kyle is assigned a 35kt intensity. been moving erratically this morning (a cyclonic loop).. now drifting nw in the latest frames. heavy subsedence descending from the north for another 24hr, then shear lightens and atmospheric moisture increases.. so i expect kyle to change little in the next 24, then slowly intensify and recover. with vertical depth a motion generally to the southwest should convene.
east of bermuda the part of kyle that merged into the front is an e-w elongated low pressure area... based on the convection it is generating and the fairly sharp nature of the axis at the surface i'd say it has a fair chance at development.
94L is still there, and now past the harshest shear. elongated n-s.. hard to say which part of its axis is dominant. expect this to slowly develop now, as it has survived and is on the back side of the upper trough axis.
that small rotation i mentioned yesterday 400mi east of trinidad has convection to its north now.. not well defined, but conditions aloft not wholly unfavorable. dont know what to expect here. nhc is recognizing the low but not saying one thing or another about it.
wave 500mi east of the cape verdes is now heading into 94L's shear axis. some convection with the itcz.. but no time to organize.
HF 1525z01october


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* Lili Near Cuba MikeCAdministrator Tue Oct 01 2002 11:25 AM
. * * worrisome things HanKFranK   Tue Oct 01 2002 10:15 PM
. * * Re: worrisome things Justin in Miami   Tue Oct 01 2002 10:28 PM
. * * Re: Lili Near Cuba game 1   Tue Oct 01 2002 08:48 PM
. * * Re: Lili Near Cuba bobby   Tue Oct 01 2002 08:25 PM
. * * 3 YEARS IN A ROW (NOT!!!) WXMAN RICHIE   Tue Oct 01 2002 08:38 PM
. * * Yeah you right, Richie... Steve   Tue Oct 01 2002 09:16 PM
. * * wow........... Southern4sure   Tue Oct 01 2002 09:28 PM
. * * Re: wow........... windblown   Tue Oct 01 2002 09:47 PM
. * * Re: wow........... tom5r   Tue Oct 01 2002 09:55 PM
. * * On-line media for LA joepub1   Tue Oct 01 2002 10:07 PM
. * * Lake Charles-No shelters joepub1   Tue Oct 01 2002 10:26 PM
. * * 11pm Update WXMAN RICHIE   Tue Oct 01 2002 10:32 PM
. * * Re: 11pm Update joepub1   Tue Oct 01 2002 11:11 PM
. * * Re: 11pm Update RickinMobile   Tue Oct 01 2002 11:17 PM
. * * Re: 11pm Update Justin in Miami   Tue Oct 01 2002 11:27 PM
. * * Re: 11pm Update joepub1   Tue Oct 01 2002 11:40 PM
. * * New Orleans could get smashed.......sure could rickinmobile   Tue Oct 01 2002 11:50 PM
. * * Re: New Orleans could get smashed.......sure could Domino   Tue Oct 01 2002 11:59 PM
. * * when Andrew hit Rickinmobile   Wed Oct 02 2002 12:07 AM
. * * Re: when Andrew hit (the conspiracy) HanKFranK   Wed Oct 02 2002 01:19 AM
. * * New Orleans? Rickinmobile   Wed Oct 02 2002 07:33 AM
. * * Andrew Cover-up Tony   Wed Oct 02 2002 08:40 AM
. * * Re: Andrew Cover-up troy2   Wed Oct 02 2002 09:01 AM
. * * Re: Andrew Cover-up jth   Wed Oct 02 2002 09:23 AM
. * * Re: Andrew Cover-up Tony   Wed Oct 02 2002 09:37 AM
. * * Re: Andrew Cover-up troy2   Wed Oct 02 2002 09:16 AM
. * * Re: Andrew Cover-up Tony   Wed Oct 02 2002 09:30 AM
. * * Re: Andrew Cover-up FlaRebel   Wed Oct 02 2002 09:32 AM
. * * Re: New Orleans? Hurric   Wed Oct 02 2002 08:36 AM
. * * Re: when Andrew hit BillD   Wed Oct 02 2002 12:53 AM
. * * latest recon HanKFranK   Wed Oct 02 2002 01:53 AM
. * * Re: latest recon Domino   Wed Oct 02 2002 03:51 AM
. * * Re: 11:03pm Update troy2   Tue Oct 01 2002 11:25 PM
. * * Re: 11pm Update anon(ShawnS)   Tue Oct 01 2002 10:59 PM
. * * Re: 11pm Update Mary K.   Tue Oct 01 2002 11:07 PM
. * * Re: 11pm Update tom5r   Tue Oct 01 2002 10:51 PM
. * * wow Southern4sure   Tue Oct 01 2002 10:57 PM
. * * Re: wow Southern4sure   Tue Oct 01 2002 11:02 PM
. * * Re: wow BillD   Tue Oct 01 2002 11:25 PM
. * * Reminds me of Andrew LoisCane   Tue Oct 01 2002 10:41 PM
. * * Re: Reminds me of Andrew BillD   Tue Oct 01 2002 11:07 PM
. * * Re: Reminds me of Andrew dudewheresmycar?   Tue Oct 01 2002 10:51 PM
. * * Re: Reminds me of Andrew Justin in Miami   Tue Oct 01 2002 10:50 PM
. * * Re: wow........... BillD   Tue Oct 01 2002 10:06 PM
. * * Re: wow........... kyle   Tue Oct 01 2002 09:52 PM
. * * New Orleans and Evacuation Routes and Times Justin in Miami   Tue Oct 01 2002 09:26 PM
. * * Justin... Steve   Tue Oct 01 2002 09:51 PM
. * * Re: Lili Near Cuba bobby   Tue Oct 01 2002 04:58 PM
. * * Re: Lili Near Cuba game   Tue Oct 01 2002 04:06 PM
. * * Re: Lili Near Cuba dennis   Tue Oct 01 2002 03:19 PM
. * * and something even more different troy2   Tue Oct 01 2002 03:22 PM
. * * Re: and something even more different troy2   Tue Oct 01 2002 03:25 PM
. * * Re: and something even more different HanKFranK   Tue Oct 01 2002 03:42 PM
. * * Re: and something even more different Bill   Tue Oct 01 2002 03:40 PM
. * * Re: and something even more different VolusiaMike   Tue Oct 01 2002 03:51 PM
. * * Alice update Bill   Tue Oct 01 2002 03:43 PM
. * * Re: Alice update troy2   Tue Oct 01 2002 03:50 PM
. * * Re: Alice update troy2   Tue Oct 01 2002 03:52 PM
. * * Re: Alice update Bill   Tue Oct 01 2002 03:58 PM
. * * Re: Alice update caneman   Tue Oct 01 2002 04:04 PM
. * * and something even more different troy2   Tue Oct 01 2002 03:21 PM
. * * Hurricane from NE in jan in Miami? Repost for visbility.... Bill   Tue Oct 01 2002 02:12 PM
. * * Re: Lili Near Cuba Bill   Tue Oct 01 2002 01:53 PM
. * * Re: Lili Cat 2 at 1400 10/1/02 Bill   Tue Oct 01 2002 01:52 PM
. * * Hurricane that struck Miami from NE in january? Bill   Tue Oct 01 2002 01:48 PM
. * * Lilli Cat 2 at 1400 10/1/02 Bill   Tue Oct 01 2002 01:50 PM
. * * Re: Lilli now Cat 2 Bill   Tue Oct 01 2002 01:49 PM
. * * Don't Count Kyle Out!! tom   Tue Oct 01 2002 10:46 AM
. * * Re: Don't Count Kyle Out!! Justin in Miami   Tue Oct 01 2002 11:17 AM
. * * Lili Cat 2 at 1400 10/1/02 Bill   Tue Oct 01 2002 01:51 PM
. * * Lil's collapsing eyewall? Rich B   Tue Oct 01 2002 11:23 AM
. * * Lilly and Isidore usufruct   Tue Oct 01 2002 10:23 AM
. * * Re: Lili Near Cuba BabyCat   Tue Oct 01 2002 09:23 AM
. * * Models jth   Tue Oct 01 2002 09:36 AM
. * * Re: Models Frank P   Tue Oct 01 2002 10:38 AM
. * * nhc Frank P   Tue Oct 01 2002 11:00 AM
. * * should have made a track... HanKFranK   Tue Oct 01 2002 11:25 AM
. * * My call... Unlogged Steve   Tue Oct 01 2002 11:18 AM
. * * Re: My call... tom5r   Tue Oct 01 2002 11:45 AM
. * * Re: moving over Cuba tom5r   Tue Oct 01 2002 11:59 AM
. * * Re: moving over Cuba garyb   Tue Oct 01 2002 01:42 PM
. * * Re: moving over Cuba joepub1   Tue Oct 01 2002 02:18 PM
. * * Hey garyb Frank P   Tue Oct 01 2002 01:46 PM
. * * Definitely a jog to the north Frank P   Tue Oct 01 2002 01:54 PM
. * * Re: Definitely a jog to the north Bill   Tue Oct 01 2002 02:01 PM
. * * Re: Definitely a jog to the north Frank P   Tue Oct 01 2002 02:20 PM
. * * RE: Lousiana landfalls.... Bill   Tue Oct 01 2002 02:29 PM
. * * Hum the Jaws Themesong... Unlogged Steve   Tue Oct 01 2002 03:11 PM
. * * Re: Hum the Jaws Themesong... Frank P   Tue Oct 01 2002 03:56 PM
. * * Re: moving over Cuba Frank P   Tue Oct 01 2002 01:37 PM
. * * Re: moving over Cuba tom5r   Tue Oct 01 2002 01:54 PM
. * * Climatology jth   Tue Oct 01 2002 12:52 PM
. * * Re: Climatology Brad in Miami   Tue Oct 01 2002 12:54 PM
. * * Re: Climatology jth   Tue Oct 01 2002 12:59 PM
. * * Re: Climatology jth   Tue Oct 01 2002 01:04 PM
. * * Re: Climatology FlaRebel   Tue Oct 01 2002 01:50 PM
. * * Re: Climatology chevyman   Tue Oct 01 2002 04:11 PM
. * * Re: Climatology caneman   Tue Oct 01 2002 04:23 PM
. * * Re: Climatology hurricanefreak   Tue Oct 01 2002 04:35 PM
. * * TPC acknowledges the NW movement, but moves track further west in 48 hours (near Lake Charles)... Unloggedsteve   Tue Oct 01 2002 04:47 PM
. * * Re: TPC acknowledges the NW movement, but moves track further west in 48 hours (near Lake Charles)... Anonymous   Tue Oct 01 2002 05:01 PM
. * * Re: TPC acknowledges the NW movement, but moves track further west in 48 hours (near Lake Charles)... Kevin   Tue Oct 01 2002 05:03 PM
. * * Re: Climatology kyle   Tue Oct 01 2002 04:46 PM
. * * Re: Climatology jth   Tue Oct 01 2002 04:58 PM
. * * Re: Climatology joepub1   Tue Oct 01 2002 05:19 PM
. * * Here's what I think they're doing... Steve-unplugged   Tue Oct 01 2002 05:25 PM
. * * The alternative... Steve-unplugged   Tue Oct 01 2002 05:28 PM
. * * Re: The alternative... BabyCat at work   Tue Oct 01 2002 06:12 PM
. * * Re: The alternative... Frank J P   Tue Oct 01 2002 06:30 PM
. * * hell no to N.O. (the saints will play) Anon (HF)   Tue Oct 01 2002 07:05 PM
. * * Going more to the west right now... HEY SHAWN.... FJP   Tue Oct 01 2002 07:57 PM
. * * Re: Going more to the west right now... HEY SHAWN.... Houstontracker   Tue Oct 01 2002 08:24 PM
. * * Re: Going more to the west right now... HEY SHAWN.... Frank P   Tue Oct 01 2002 08:54 PM
. * * Re: Going more to the west right now... HEY SHAWN.... joepub1   Tue Oct 01 2002 09:02 PM
. * * Re: Going more to the west right now... HEY SHAWN.... joepub1   Tue Oct 01 2002 08:51 PM
. * * joepub1.... Frank P   Tue Oct 01 2002 09:03 PM
. * * Re: Going more to the west right now... HEY SHAWN.... joepub1   Tue Oct 01 2002 08:09 PM
. * * Re: Going more to the west right now... HEY SHAWN.... Frank P   Tue Oct 01 2002 08:22 PM
. * * Re: The alternative... tom5r   Tue Oct 01 2002 05:36 PM
. * * Re: The alternative... BabyCat at work   Tue Oct 01 2002 05:57 PM
. * * What are the chances..... Southern4sure   Tue Oct 01 2002 06:09 PM
. * * Re: Climatology BabyCat at work   Tue Oct 01 2002 05:25 PM
. * * Re: Climatology joepub1   Tue Oct 01 2002 06:04 PM
. * * Kyle getting stronger joepub1   Tue Oct 01 2002 04:46 PM
. * * Kyle! Rasvar   Tue Oct 01 2002 01:12 PM
. * * Hey Steve...... Frank P   Tue Oct 01 2002 11:23 AM
. * * Re: Hey Steve...... turkeyman   Tue Oct 01 2002 04:02 PM
. * * Re: nhc JustMe   Tue Oct 01 2002 11:16 AM
. * * Re: Models tom5r   Tue Oct 01 2002 10:04 AM

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