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Re: TS Stan and Other Basin Activity
      Mon Oct 03 2005 05:39 PM

I'm gonna come along now and say that pretty much all of you are right on the location of the "center" of 92L -- how's that for being ambiguous?

There appears to be some broad turning near Cat Island in the Bahamas, or approximately the position Storm Hunter referenced. However, this is likely a surface reflection of a sharp but narrow upper-level trough with an embedded weak upper-level low in about the same location. Whether or not it is directly associated with an upper-low or not, conditions in this are are unfavorable for development due to strong northerly shear (partially along the west side of the narrow trough, partially due to the outflow from Stan).

The area toward the east, however, is a much more favorable region for development. There is strong diffluence (divergent winds) aloft with an upper-level ridge building in across the area. While there does not appear to be any surface center within the midst of the large convective field across the region from well east of Daytona Beach SE-ward to Puerto Rico, there are strong low-level easterly winds at low levels on the north side of this area and weak overall winds on the south side of this area. Given how one sustained convective burst and the pressure falls that are associated with such an event can lead to the development of a surface circulation, I'd say it's a good bet that something ultimately forms within the midst of that cloud mass.

The precise location of the circulation formation has little impact upon the ultimate track -- west-northwest, then northwest -- but does impact what areas will see what weather from this system. Overall, Florida is in for at least a good bit of rain through the late part of the week and into the weekend...possibly more depending on what happens. My best guess is that something forms in the midst of the convection currently near 24N/70-72W and moves toward the WNW toward the state of Florida over the next couple of days. How much of something forms is yet to be determined.

The setup for something to form is quite similar to how Katrina, Rita, and Franklin formed over the course of this season with an upper-low and the associated diffluence aloft interacting with a tropical wave to its northeast; as the upper-low weakens and/or moves out, tropical development can begin in earnest. The ultimate track is likely to be somewhere between Katrina and Franklin's tracks -- i.e. west-northwest across the state of Florida, perhaps into the northern Gulf S of the Fl. Panhandle -- with intensity a crapshoot at this point. It could be a weak vortex that never reaches depression status, or it could be a minimal hurricane. Best bet is for something in the middle.

We'll watch it over the coming days -- Stan, too, for whatever happens with it as it strengthens in the Bay of Campeche -- and keep the updates coming.

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* TS Stan and Other Basin Activity Ed DunhamAdministrator Mon Oct 03 2005 05:39 PM
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. * * Re: Katrina Aftermath - even rebar Margie   Mon Oct 03 2005 05:20 PM
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. * * Re: TS Stan and Other Basin Activity Margie   Mon Oct 03 2005 12:22 PM
. * * Re: TS Stan and Other Basin Activity Thunderbird12   Mon Oct 03 2005 01:21 PM
. * * Re: TS Stan and Other Basin Activity oil trader   Mon Oct 03 2005 04:28 PM
. * * Re: TS Stan and Other Basin Activity emackl   Mon Oct 03 2005 01:35 PM
. * * Re: TS Stan and Other Basin Activity Ed in Va   Mon Oct 03 2005 01:51 PM
. * * Turning just north of PR? Bloodstar   Mon Oct 03 2005 01:53 PM
. * * Stan Thunderbird12   Mon Oct 03 2005 02:32 PM
. * * Re: gfs? Big Kahuna   Mon Oct 03 2005 02:54 PM
. * * Models and other things Bloodstar   Mon Oct 03 2005 03:08 PM
. * * Re: Models and other things NewWatcher   Mon Oct 03 2005 03:24 PM
. * * Re: Models and other things emackl   Mon Oct 03 2005 03:28 PM
. * * Re: Models and other things Thunderbird12   Mon Oct 03 2005 03:42 PM
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. * * GFS Ryan   Mon Oct 03 2005 08:54 PM
. * * Re: Stan bobbutts   Mon Oct 03 2005 08:17 PM
. * * Re: Stan Genesis   Mon Oct 03 2005 08:55 PM
. * * Re: Stan Margie   Mon Oct 03 2005 04:45 PM
. * * Re: Models and other things Bloodstar   Mon Oct 03 2005 03:37 PM
. * * Re: Models and other things NewWatcher   Mon Oct 03 2005 03:30 PM
. * * Re: Models and other things Big Kahuna   Mon Oct 03 2005 03:40 PM
. * * Re: Models and other things Hootowl   Mon Oct 03 2005 07:10 PM
. * * Re: gfs? Ryan   Mon Oct 03 2005 03:03 PM
. * * Re: 92L a TD? MapMaster   Mon Oct 03 2005 12:03 PM
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. * * Re: TS Stan and Other Basin Activity Storm Hunter   Mon Oct 03 2005 01:39 AM
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. * * Re: TS Stan and Other Basin Activity Storm Hunter   Mon Oct 03 2005 05:18 PM
. * * Re: TS Stan and Other Basin Activity Clark   Mon Oct 03 2005 05:39 PM
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. * * Re: TS Stan and Other Basin Activity emackl   Mon Oct 03 2005 11:27 AM
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. * * Re: TS Stan and Other Basin Activity MapMaster   Mon Oct 03 2005 12:52 PM
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. * * Re: TS Stan and Other Basin Activity Thunderbird12   Mon Oct 03 2005 11:25 AM
. * * Bahama Baby Wingman51   Mon Oct 03 2005 11:16 AM
. * * 70W 25N Beach   Mon Oct 03 2005 08:05 AM
. * * Re: 70W 25N NewWatcher   Mon Oct 03 2005 08:29 AM
. * * Re: TS Stan and Other Basin Activity Magic Hat   Sun Oct 02 2005 02:47 PM
. * * Re: TS Stan and Other Basin Activity Margie   Sun Oct 02 2005 09:58 PM
. * * Re: TS Stan and Other Basin Activity Ryan   Sun Oct 02 2005 10:27 PM
. * * Re: TS Stan and Other Basin Activity Big Red Machine   Mon Oct 03 2005 01:07 AM
. * * Re: TS Stan and Other Basin Activity Beaumont, TX   Sun Oct 02 2005 12:07 PM
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