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Re: Mets, please advise of the impact of this from NCEP
Wed Oct 19 2005 08:50 PM

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What do you think the NW motion would do to the NHC track? Would they keep the current track or would it be moved at landfall point N or S?

Extrapolate the motion and you get the expected result, all things being equal.

Problem is, they never are.

I agree that the strong low that was over California - and that everyone (and the models) thought would come east, rather than northeast, and move slower than it actually did probably resulted in the "bad" GFDL track.

However, the amplification pulse that I (and a lot of other people!) in the form of the second trough is still coming, and the height falls in front of it are still going to happen. These storms tend to move into weakness, and that weakness is still going to be there.

A landfall into the Yucatan would be catastrophic for them, and even if it doesn't stop an impact in Florida, it would take some of the gas out of this thing. But - and this is a big but - anyone who bets the farm on that scenario right now could easily be picking up matchsticks in a few days.

I see differences in the pattern, but not in the overall synoptic environment, and I am getting increasingly concerned about a secondary (if you can call it that) impact in the New England area early next week due to the storm phasing with the front that looks to be moving right on schedule. A storm with 100kt winds moving at close to 50kts would be the equivalent of a 150kt storm if you're on the "wrong" side of it - that would be truly horiffic if it comes to pass, and way beyond anything that people are expecting up there.

I believe that we'll know quite a bit more by tomorrow evening in terms of whether the trough connection is going to "miss" or not, and if it does, if the height falls will be sufficient to initiate the movement north and eastward. My money is still on "yes", but I'm keeping a wary eye on this thing - this storm has been amazing so far, and those "wobbles" are something that I don't think I've ever seen before (at that level of amplitude) Those almost look like a mini-eye rotating around a larger, internal eye - a wild structure if indeed that's what's going on.....

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Re: Wilma Continued	NewWatcher	Wed Oct 19 2005 08:32 PM
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Re: Confusion	weatherwatcher2	Wed Oct 19 2005 09:19 PM
Re: Confusion	Big Red Machine	Wed Oct 19 2005 09:10 PM
Re: Confusion	Ron Basso	Wed Oct 19 2005 09:28 PM
Re: Confusion	Lee-Delray	Wed Oct 19 2005 09:06 PM
Re: Wilma Continued	JG	Wed Oct 19 2005 08:32 PM
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Re: Wilma Continued	hurricane expert	Wed Oct 19 2005 06:26 PM
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Re: Wilma Continued	typhoon_tip	Wed Oct 19 2005 06:45 PM
Re: Wilma Continued	Clark	Wed Oct 19 2005 06:55 PM
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Mets, please advise of the impact of this from NCEP	JG	Wed Oct 19 2005 07:01 PM
Re: Mets, please advise of the impact of this from NCEP	typhoon_tip	Wed Oct 19 2005 07:03 PM
Re: Mets, please advise of the impact of this from NCEP	Hugh	Wed Oct 19 2005 07:03 PM
Re: Mets, please advise of the impact of this from NCEP	JG	Wed Oct 19 2005 07:10 PM
Re: Mets, please advise of the impact of this from NCEP	typhoon_tip	Wed Oct 19 2005 07:05 PM
Re: Mets, please advise of the impact of this from NCEP	Hugh	Wed Oct 19 2005 07:11 PM
Re: Mets, please advise of the impact of this from NCEP	Clark	Wed Oct 19 2005 07:20 PM
Re: Mets, please advise of the impact of this from NCEP	CDMOrlando	Wed Oct 19 2005 10:17 PM
Re: Mets, please advise of the impact of this from NCEP	Big Tk	Wed Oct 19 2005 08:40 PM
Re: Mets, please advise of the impact of this from NCEP	swimaway19	Wed Oct 19 2005 08:43 PM
Re: Mets, please advise of the impact of this from NCEP	Genesis	Wed Oct 19 2005 08:50 PM
Re: Mets, please advise of the impact of this from NCEP	Beaumont, TX	Wed Oct 19 2005 08:56 PM
Re: Mets, please advise of the impact of this from NCEP	typhoon_tip	Wed Oct 19 2005 08:56 PM
Re: Mets, please advise of the impact of this from NCEP	zacker20	Wed Oct 19 2005 08:49 PM
Re: Mets, please advise of the impact of this from NCEP	Ron Basso	Wed Oct 19 2005 09:06 PM
Re: Mets, please advise of the impact of this from NCEP	willw	Wed Oct 19 2005 09:11 PM
Re: Mets, please advise of the impact of this from NCEP	weatherwatcher2	Wed Oct 19 2005 09:23 PM
Re: Mets, please advise of the impact of this from NCEP	evergladesangler	Wed Oct 19 2005 09:26 PM
Re: Mets, please advise of the impact of this from NCEP	Hugh	Wed Oct 19 2005 10:11 PM
Re: Mets, please advise of the impact of this from NCEP	MichaelA	Wed Oct 19 2005 10:14 PM
Re: Mets, please advise of the impact of this from NCEP	Hugh	Wed Oct 19 2005 10:17 PM
Interesting stuff from the panhandle discussion	abyrd	Wed Oct 19 2005 10:28 PM
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Re: Interesting stuff from the panhandle discussion	Hugh	Wed Oct 19 2005 10:39 PM
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Re: Interesting stuff from the panhandle discussion	MichaelA	Wed Oct 19 2005 10:57 PM
Re: Interesting stuff from the panhandle discussion	abyrd	Wed Oct 19 2005 11:01 PM
Re: Interesting stuff from the panhandle discussion	Colleen A.	Wed Oct 19 2005 10:44 PM
Landfall suggestions?	danielw	Wed Oct 19 2005 10:53 PM
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new thread - see main page.	erauwx	Wed Oct 19 2005 11:08 PM
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Re: Interesting stuff from the panhandle discussion	willw	Wed Oct 19 2005 10:48 PM
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CO State Univ	danielw	Wed Oct 19 2005 09:34 PM
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Re: Mets, please advise of the impact of this from NCEP	Random Chaos	Wed Oct 19 2005 09:20 PM
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