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Ed Dunham
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Re: Tropical Storm Gamma Forms Near Honduras
Sat Nov 19 2005 10:01 AM

Although it is a moot point since we now have 'Gamma', I believe that Clark's analysis is accurate. TD 27 became an open wave and was nudged west southwest by the strength of the Atlantic ridge over Florida a couple of days ago. The open wave then moved west just north of the north shore of South America. The secondary low - actually an upper level low - moved onshore as you described and weakened considerably. TD 27 closed off again and regenerated to the northeast of the weak secondary low - and quickly strengthened to tropical storm strength. The Navy (NRL) continued to monitor the remnants of 27 and reclassified it as a TD a few hours before NHC upgraded the system to a TS. Post analysis of satellite data supports this genesis.

To clarify another point of interesting discussion in this thread, a RECON Vortex Message is not required in order to upgrade a system to TS status. Upgrades are often made based on satellite wind data measurements - frequent examples are Cape Verde systems in the far eastern Atlantic that are upgraded to TD or TS status without the benefit of any RECON measurements.
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Subject	Posted by	Posted on
Tropical Storm Gamma Forms Near Honduras	Clark	Sat Nov 19 2005 10:01 AM
Re: Tropical Storm Gamma Forms Near Honduras	Lee-Delray	Mon Nov 21 2005 08:39 AM
Re: Tropical Storm Gamma Forms Near Honduras	Clark	Mon Nov 21 2005 09:43 AM
Re: Tropical Storm Gamma Forms Near Honduras	Psyber	Mon Nov 21 2005 11:36 AM
Re: Tropical Storm Gamma Forms Near Honduras	Tak	Mon Nov 21 2005 12:20 PM
Re: Tropical Storm Gamma Forms Near Honduras	HanKFranK	Mon Nov 21 2005 12:38 PM
Re: Tropical Storm Gamma Forms Near Honduras	Psyber	Mon Nov 21 2005 02:31 PM
Re: Tropical Storm Gamma Forms Near Honduras	Clark	Mon Nov 21 2005 05:41 PM
Clarifications	Ed Dunham	Mon Nov 21 2005 09:11 PM
Re: Tropical Storm Gamma Forms Near Honduras	Lee-Delray	Mon Nov 21 2005 05:53 PM
Re: Tropical Storm Gamma Forms Near Honduras	Clark	Tue Nov 22 2005 01:39 AM
delta time...	HanKFranK	Tue Nov 22 2005 10:35 AM
Re: delta time...	Margie	Tue Nov 22 2005 12:21 PM
Re: Tropical Storm Gamma Forms Near Honduras	typhoon_tip	Mon Nov 21 2005 07:56 PM
Global Warming and weather events..	typhoon_tip	Mon Nov 21 2005 08:35 PM
Re: Global Warming and weather events..	ltpat228	Mon Nov 21 2005 09:38 PM
A little hint....	Doombot!	Tue Nov 22 2005 12:40 AM
Re: Global Warming and weather events..	HanKFranK	Mon Nov 21 2005 09:37 PM
Re: Tropical Storm Gamma Forms Near Honduras	Katie	Mon Nov 21 2005 03:28 PM
Re: Tropical Storm Gamma Forms Near Honduras	Clark	Mon Nov 21 2005 02:13 PM
Re: Tropical Storm Gamma Forms Near Honduras	ftlaudbob	Mon Nov 21 2005 11:13 AM
Re: Tropical Storm Gamma Forms Near Honduras	Hurricane Dad	Mon Nov 21 2005 11:18 AM
Re: Tropical Storm Gamma Forms Near Honduras	Rabbit	Mon Nov 21 2005 11:36 AM
Re: Tropical Storm Gamma Forms Near Honduras	Lee-Delray	Mon Nov 21 2005 12:14 PM
Re: Tropical Storm Gamma Forms Near Honduras	Rabbit	Mon Nov 21 2005 10:04 AM
Re: Tropical Storm Gamma Forms Near Honduras	Lee-Delray	Mon Nov 21 2005 10:02 AM
Re: Tropical Storm Gamma Forms Near Honduras	Lee-Delray	Sun Nov 20 2005 10:17 AM
95L	HanKFranK	Sun Nov 20 2005 11:54 AM
Re: 95L	Genesis	Sun Nov 20 2005 02:32 PM
Re: 95L	Lee-Delray	Sun Nov 20 2005 03:26 PM
how about some predictions here?!	vineyardsaker	Sun Nov 20 2005 07:32 PM
Re: how about some predictions here?!	Clark	Sun Nov 20 2005 08:43 PM
GAMMA...Gone	danielw	Sun Nov 20 2005 10:54 PM
9 Days and counting	danielw	Sun Nov 20 2005 07:49 PM
95L and GOM Low	danielw	Sun Nov 20 2005 07:32 PM
Re: Tropical Storm Gamma Forms Near Honduras	Lee-Delray	Sat Nov 19 2005 09:44 PM
Re: Tropical Storm Gamma Forms Near Honduras	Lee-Delray	Sat Nov 19 2005 04:01 PM
Re: Tropical Storm Gamma Forms Near Honduras	ralphfl	Sat Nov 19 2005 05:38 PM
Re: Tropical Storm Gamma Forms Near Honduras	pincty	Sat Nov 19 2005 07:03 PM
Tropical Storm Classification	danielw	Sat Nov 19 2005 08:27 PM
Re: Tropical Storm Classification	WXMAN RICHIE	Sat Nov 19 2005 08:41 PM
Re: Tropical Storm Classification	danielw	Sat Nov 19 2005 08:50 PM
More points to ponder	danielw	Sat Nov 19 2005 09:18 PM
Re: More points to ponder	Old Sailor	Sat Nov 19 2005 10:37 PM
Re: Tropical Storm Gamma Forms Near Honduras	ftlaudbob	Sat Nov 19 2005 04:07 PM
Re: Tropical Storm Gamma Forms Near Honduras	Lee-Delray	Sat Nov 19 2005 01:10 PM
Re: Tropical Storm Gamma Forms Near Honduras	Old Sailor	Sat Nov 19 2005 01:37 PM
Re: Tropical Storm Gamma Forms Near Honduras	dave foster	Sat Nov 19 2005 01:47 PM
Re: Tropical Storm Gamma Forms Near Honduras	Lee-Delray	Sat Nov 19 2005 11:45 AM
Re: Tropical Storm Gamma Forms Near Honduras	bobbutts	Sat Nov 19 2005 12:59 PM
Re: Tropical Storm Gamma Forms Near Honduras	MikeC	Sat Nov 19 2005 11:37 AM
Re: Tropical Storm Gamma Forms Near Honduras	srsarner	Sat Nov 19 2005 09:34 AM
Re: Tropical Storm Gamma Forms Near Honduras	Ed Dunham	Sat Nov 19 2005 10:01 AM
Re: Tropical Storm Gamma Forms Near Honduras	Clark	Sat Nov 19 2005 11:06 PM
Re: Tropical Storm Gamma Forms Near Honduras	Margie	Sat Nov 19 2005 04:36 PM
Re: Tropical Storm Gamma Forms Near Honduras	Lee-Delray	Sat Nov 19 2005 04:46 PM
Bye Bye Gamma	Wxwatcher2	Sat Nov 19 2005 05:09 PM
Re: Bye Bye Gamma	Clark	Sat Nov 19 2005 11:10 PM
Re: Bye Bye Gamma	Lee-Delray	Sat Nov 19 2005 05:14 PM
Re: Tropical Storm Gamma forms near Honduras	Katie	Fri Nov 18 2005 03:49 PM
Re: Tropical Storm Gamma forms near Honduras	Tropics Guy	Fri Nov 18 2005 04:00 PM
Weather Station	WXMAN RICHIE	Fri Nov 18 2005 03:59 PM
Re: Tropical Storm Gamma forms near Honduras	ralphfl	Fri Nov 18 2005 03:56 PM
Re: Tropical Storm Gamma forms near Honduras	Thunderbird12	Fri Nov 18 2005 04:00 PM
Re: Tropical Storm Gamma forms near Honduras	Margie	Fri Nov 18 2005 04:07 PM
Re: Tropical Storm Gamma forms near Honduras	Tak	Fri Nov 18 2005 04:21 PM
Re: Tropical Storm Gamma forms near Honduras	Rich B	Fri Nov 18 2005 04:33 PM
Re: Tropical Storm Gamma forms near Honduras	Thunderbird12	Fri Nov 18 2005 04:46 PM
Re: Tropical Storm Gamma forms near Honduras	Margie	Fri Nov 18 2005 04:46 PM
Re: Tropical Storm Gamma forms near Honduras	Rich B	Fri Nov 18 2005 05:21 PM
Re: Tropical Storm Gamma forms near Honduras	Margie	Fri Nov 18 2005 05:23 PM
Re: Tropical Storm Gamma forms near Honduras	Wxwatcher2	Fri Nov 18 2005 05:33 PM
Re: Tropical Storm Gamma forms near Honduras	WXMAN RICHIE	Fri Nov 18 2005 04:39 PM
Re: Tropical Storm Gamma forms near Honduras	Lee-Delray	Fri Nov 18 2005 04:37 PM
Re: Tropical Storm Gamma forms near Honduras	Tak	Fri Nov 18 2005 05:07 PM
Re: Tropical Storm Gamma forms near Honduras	Lee-Delray	Fri Nov 18 2005 05:12 PM
Re: Tropical Storm Gamma forms near Honduras	ralphfl	Fri Nov 18 2005 05:16 PM
Re: Tropical Storm Gamma forms near Honduras	Lysis	Fri Nov 18 2005 05:21 PM
Re: Tropical Storm Gamma forms near Honduras	WXMAN RICHIE	Fri Nov 18 2005 06:09 PM
Re: Tropical Storm Gamma forms near Honduras	Thunderbird12	Fri Nov 18 2005 06:17 PM
Re: Tropical Storm Gamma forms near Honduras	dave foster	Fri Nov 18 2005 06:43 PM
Re: Tropical Storm Gamma forms near Honduras	ralphfl	Fri Nov 18 2005 05:58 PM
Re: Tropical Storm Gamma forms near Honduras	ralphfl	Fri Nov 18 2005 10:30 PM
Re: Tropical Storm Gamma forms near Honduras	pincty	Fri Nov 18 2005 06:49 PM
Re: Tropical Storm Gamma forms near Honduras	Dawn	Fri Nov 18 2005 07:04 PM
Re: Tropical Storm Gamma forms near Honduras	ChessieStorm	Fri Nov 18 2005 11:07 PM
Re: Tropical Storm Gamma forms near Honduras	danielw	Fri Nov 18 2005 11:18 PM
Re: Tropical Storm Gamma forms near Honduras	saluki	Sat Nov 19 2005 01:18 AM
4 AM EST Advisory...oops	danielw	Sat Nov 19 2005 04:15 AM
Re: 4 AM EST Advisory...oops	danielw	Sat Nov 19 2005 04:27 AM
Re: 4 AM EST Advisory...oops	Hugh	Sat Nov 19 2005 09:32 AM
Re: 4 AM EST Advisory...oops	ralphfl	Sat Nov 19 2005 08:00 AM
Re: Tropical Storm Gamma forms near Honduras	pincty	Fri Nov 18 2005 07:14 PM
Why I think it's heading to Tampa	Bloodstar	Fri Nov 18 2005 06:36 PM
Re: Why I think it's heading to Tampa	Hootowl	Fri Nov 18 2005 07:03 PM
Re: Why I think it's heading to Tampa	Ron Basso	Fri Nov 18 2005 07:24 PM
Re: Why I think it's heading to Tampa	HanKFranK	Fri Nov 18 2005 07:55 PM
Re: Why I think it's heading to Tampa Killed -- Sent to Graveyard	collegemom	Fri Nov 18 2005 07:33 PM
Re: Why I think it's heading to Tampa	Lee-Delray	Fri Nov 18 2005 07:48 PM
Re: Why I think it's heading to Tampa	weatherwatcher999	Fri Nov 18 2005 08:08 PM
Re: Why I think it's heading to Tampa	Major7	Fri Nov 18 2005 09:49 PM
Gamma	danielw	Fri Nov 18 2005 08:20 PM
Area Forecast Dicussion excerpts	danielw	Fri Nov 18 2005 08:34 PM
SHIPS forecast	danielw	Fri Nov 18 2005 09:02 PM
Re: SHIPS forecast	Lee-Delray	Fri Nov 18 2005 09:07 PM
Re: SHIPS forecast	laxpimpj	Fri Nov 18 2005 09:47 PM
Classes and Recon	danielw	Fri Nov 18 2005 09:56 PM
Re: Classes and Recon	dave foster	Fri Nov 18 2005 10:09 PM
Re: SHIPS forecast	Hugh	Fri Nov 18 2005 09:49 PM
Gamma	Hugh	Fri Nov 18 2005 09:46 PM
Re: Why I think it's heading to Tampa	Hugh	Fri Nov 18 2005 07:03 PM
Re: Tropical Storm Gamma forms near Honduras	Lee-Delray	Fri Nov 18 2005 06:07 PM
Re: Tropical Storm Gamma forms near Honduras	Tak	Fri Nov 18 2005 05:55 PM
Re: Tropical Storm Gamma	rmbjoe1954	Fri Nov 18 2005 04:43 PM
Re: Tropical Storm Gamma forms near Honduras	Rich B	Fri Nov 18 2005 04:39 PM
Re: Tropical Storm Gamma forms near Honduras	Lee-Delray	Fri Nov 18 2005 04:44 PM
Re: Tropical Storm Gamma forms near Honduras	Lee-Delray	Fri Nov 18 2005 04:16 PM
Re: Tropical Storm Gamma forms near Honduras	HURRICANELONNY	Fri Nov 18 2005 03:55 PM
Re: Tropical Storm Gamma forms near Honduras DELETED	Lee-Delray	Fri Nov 18 2005 03:57 PM
Re: Tropical Storm Gamma forms near Honduras	ralphfl	Fri Nov 18 2005 03:59 PM
Re: Tropical Storm Gamma forms near Honduras	Lee-Delray	Fri Nov 18 2005 04:02 PM
Re: Tropical Storm Gamma forms near Honduras	ralphfl	Fri Nov 18 2005 04:05 PM
Re: Tropical Storm Gamma forms near Honduras	HURRICANELONNY	Fri Nov 18 2005 04:05 PM

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